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lilolme1
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Posted - 2011.02.09 23:49:00 -
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Was surprised to see EVE was not in the all time Top 100. Yes they state it should be a top 1000 or so, but WoW game Second, and god knows why Deux Ex game first. But hey...
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Xanthia Sarn
Minmatar
Lucrosum Bellus
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:00:00 -
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 Originally by: lilolme1
Was surprised to see EVE was not in the all time Top 100. Yes they state it should be a top 1000 or so, but WoW game Second, and god knows why Deux Ex game first. But hey...
If your suprised, your ignorant. EvE to me is awsum. But to the majority of the world's gamers, this is a boring game where unless u act like a complete douche, abandon your morals and blow anyone up u see, steal whatever you can and backstab anyone u like. You cant really get ahead.
Unfortunatley, this is true. Untill EvE i.e CCP, learns to protect its player base from griefing. Never will hit the top 100 :)
Thats my opinion anyway.
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Syphon Lodian
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Syphon Lodian on 10/02/2011 00:02:07
PCGamer kinda sucks now. They don't seem to take note on console ports, or even differentiate between the two. I'd put a wager down on saying most of the editors/staff on PCGamer play more console games.
They also miss a Ton of PC exclusives, which is sad, for a "PC Gaming" publication.
They just pick up on every "blockbuster" title that's coming out, like every other random publication. They're mostly a glorified blog site. Regurgitating announcements like the rest of the fourth estate. No one seems to "specialize" in reporting a certain craft anymore. It's all 'same-y'.
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Xanthia Sarn
I'm an ignorant troll, who likes to start crap with people. EvE to me is awsum. But to the majority of the world's gamers, this is a boring game where unless u act like a complete douche, abandon your morals and blow anyone up u see, steal whatever you can and backstab anyone u like. You cant really get ahead.
Thats my opinion anyway.
Fixed your post.
To the OP, yeah that is strange, it sure seems it should be there!
Best regards,
Apollo Gabriel
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lilolme1
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: lilolme1 on 10/02/2011 00:02:52
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel
Originally by: Xanthia Sarn
I'm an ignorant troll, who likes to start crap with people. EvE to me is awsum. But to the majority of the world's gamers, this is a boring game where unless u act like a complete douche, abandon your morals and blow anyone up u see, steal whatever you can and backstab anyone u like. You cant really get ahead.
Thats my opinion anyway.
Fixed your post.
You beat me to it 
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Xanthia Sarn
Minmatar
Lucrosum Bellus
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo Gabriel
Originally by: Xanthia Sarn
I'm an ignorant troll, who likes to start crap with people. EvE to me is awsum. But to the majority of the world's gamers, this is a boring game where unless u act like a complete douche, abandon your morals and blow anyone up u see, steal whatever you can and backstab anyone u like. You cant really get ahead.
Thats my opinion anyway.
Fixed your post.
To the OP, yeah that is strange, it sure seems it should be there!
Grow up. I was expressing an opinion. Douchebag
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TriadSte
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: lilolme1
Edited by: lilolme1 on 10/02/2011 00:05:26
Was surprised to see EVE was not in the all time Top 100. WoW came Second, and god knows why Deux Ex game first. But hey...
However EVE WAS in Top 100 for 2009 (see Awards section) - So wonder what happened
Im gonna bite on this chewy one..
Deus Ex belongs its number 1 place because it is a game no other can get close to in terms of playability. It is 8 years old now and still out plays todays games.
Many people dislike it because the multiplayer is very hard to master.
It is a game where you get to make your own choices all the way through the game for many different endings.
Deus Ex is the #1 game of all time right now.
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KaarBaak
Minmatar
The Mighty 13th
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Syphon Lodian
Edited by: Syphon Lodian on 10/02/2011 00:02:07
PCGamer kinda sucks now. They don't seem to take note on console ports, or even differentiate between the two. I'd put a wager down on saying most of the editors/staff on PCGamer play more console games.
They also miss a Ton of PC exclusives, which is sad, for a "PC Gaming" publication.
They just pick up on every "blockbuster" title that's coming out, like every other random publication. They're mostly a glorified blog site. Regurgitating announcements like the rest of the fourth estate. No one seems to "specialize" in reporting a certain craft anymore. It's all 'same-y'.
/agree. I had a 7-8 year sub (of the US version) and finally cancelled it a few years ago. All of the reviews/articles read like console gamers who are forced to review PC games. Even their hardware section turned into advertisements rather than honest reviews.
So, most anything you read in there is rubbish. That said, there is some truth in the description of Eve as a "niche" game.
KB
Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
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Shaampoo
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:38:00 -
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I hate it when News journalist makes these list's
At best it is their opinion and at worst it is who gave them the best free stuff
Everyone has their own personal preference for the best game
( I personally think Hello Kitty online is the best but then again I am a massive ***got )
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:44:00 -
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My sig says it all I think.
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mkmin
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:49:00 -
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I say who cares? Isn't PC gamer just a bunch of paid advertisements pretending it's news?
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Ivana Drake
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.10 00:51:00 -
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Deus Ex was pretty mediocre for all the hype it got.
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Lellian Marcellus Taron
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Posted - 2011.02.10 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lellian Marcellus Taron on 10/02/2011 01:14:25
Originally by: Xanthia Sarn
Originally by: lilolme1
Was surprised to see EVE was not in the all time Top 100. Yes they state it should be a top 1000 or so, but WoW game Second, and god knows why Deux Ex game first. But hey...
If your suprised, your ignorant. EvE to me is awsum. But to the majority of the world's gamers, this is a boring game where unless u act like a complete douche, abandon your morals and blow anyone up u see, steal whatever you can and backstab anyone u like. You cant really get ahead.
Unfortunatley, this is true. Untill EvE i.e CCP, learns to protect its player base from griefing. Never will hit the top 100 :)
Thats my opinion anyway.
Don't call someone ignorant if you can't spell surprise or awesome.
Also, "you're", "you" ;D
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Burial Day
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Posted - 2011.02.10 01:38:00 -
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EVE is unique, but it has many, many flaws.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.02.10 01:47:00 -
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Quality control in video games "journalism" is effectively nonexistent + top lists of anything in any medium are ultra subjective space fillers at best = who cares
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Murev Vorchilde
Caldari
End Game.
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Posted - 2011.02.10 03:11:00 -
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deux ex no1... Think I have over 100 games better than it 
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Richard Christy
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Posted - 2011.02.10 03:19:00 -
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In related news, people that play this so-called EVE are surprised that it was omitted from a list of the best games of all time.
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Nihilistik Tendancy
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Posted - 2011.02.10 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: Nihilistik Tendancy on 10/02/2011 03:26:11
To OP, if you never played Deux Ex when it first came out - with the complete ****ola us 486 players had to deal with but smiled through, you'll never get why it was such a great game.
Edit: filter.
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Andraine
Fat Freddys Drop
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Posted - 2011.02.10 03:27:00 -
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I not surprised EVE isn't in the top 100. I am surprised that Deux Ex is number 1!
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.10 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 10/02/2011 03:29:10
Wait a sec... Didn't Deus Ex have one good version then failed the second one and we're still waiting for the third?
edit: It must be to create the hype before the release of Human Revolution 
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Selinate
Amarr
Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.02.10 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Xanthia Sarn
Grow up. I was expressing an opinion. Douchebag
Pot telling the kettle to stop boiling water, and then calling it black?
Metaphor extended too far, but most folks should get the point...
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2011.02.10 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Xanthia Sarn
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Grow up. I was expressing an opinion. Douchebag
You should have stayed in wow
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THERisingPHOENIX
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.10 04:50:00 -
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Deus Ex was the first game I played :)
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Manufactorum
Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.02.10 05:06:00 -
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Eve was great back in 2009, it slipped and hard
Originally by: Magnus Andronicus
ur character looks like a f***ing clown dude.
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Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.02.10 05:07:00 -
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The US version is ****, and everyone knows it.
The UK version was the original, and has all the good writers. The other localised versions buy their articles and put them in their mags. Hence why some reviews are really good, and most are ****. Top 100 is one of those US-editor things, and is likely why it is pants. The UK version has always had EVE in it, as they focus more on the games which define PC Gaming, and the titles which stand out (EVE Online, Startopia, etc).
TL;DR : buy the UK version.
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Adacia Calla
Minmatar
Umbrella Research Group
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Posted - 2011.02.10 05:20:00 -
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Deus Ex was GOOD, but not great. Beat it and didn't feel compelled on playing through it again unlike many other RPGs over the years. Hell I still want to know where my Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale disks went :(
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Jennifer Starling
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.02.10 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 10/02/2011 06:07:03
Originally by: lilolme1
PC Gamer Top 100 - Eve not in... Was surprised to see EVE was not in the all time Top 100.
It doesn't surprise me at all. EVE definitely has its merits but it's also full of half finished content, lag, bugs, weird game mechanics, inconsistencies. It's everything but a smooth, balanced and finished product.
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.02.10 07:15:00 -
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Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 10/02/2011 07:18:23
Err link to what your talking about?
Looking at the all time list EVE is #56. Which honestly EVE shouldn't be on the list. Being a niche MMO and all.
edit:The list iam looking at was written on Feb.5 2010.. Still a **** list.
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.02.10 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: PTang on 10/02/2011 08:06:56
Wow, that's really wierd. Eve online was the top PC game of the year like 4 issues ago.
no seriously didn't PC gamer list it as game of year just like 4 months ago?
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Chatea
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Posted - 2011.02.10 10:17:00 -
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I hate trolls that have good bait like this idiot.
To the op, masterbation makes you blind. This is the 2010 list which is the latest. EvE online has been in the top 100 list every year for god knows how many years now.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/06/10/pc-gamer-top-100/
60. Street Fighter IV
59. Planetside
58. Space Giraffe
57. Sensible World of Soccer
56. Eve Online
55. Dungeon Keeper
54. Star Control 2
53. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
52. Combat Mission Beyond Overlord
51. Spelunky
From the 2008 list (where EvE online is ranked no.13)
Jim says "I've written more on this game than I care to recall, but I've still failed to capture quite what it means. Singular, almost unplayable, it's the misunderstood bohemian genius of the MMO world."
Further more. Deus Ex is the best game of all time. To dislike it is fine (if immoral) but to say it is not a good game is incorrect, your opinion is invalid and may god have mercy on the soulless husk that is your flacid body. |
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CCP StevieSG
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Posted - 2011.02.10 10:42:00 -
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56. Eve Online, there we are!
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar
Cloakers
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Posted - 2011.02.10 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 10/02/2011 12:35:25
Sounds about right. CPP in pursuing casual gamers, abandoning original playerbase and concept and focusing on quick easy profit (RMT, PLEX & macroers, microtransactions)has made EvE unremarkable.
EvE was good because it was different. Now its easy MMORPG number whatever of same old same old.
What did you expect?
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Sinister Dextor
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Posted - 2011.02.10 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Sinister Dextor on 10/02/2011 13:26:31
Originally by: Chatea
I hate trolls that have good bait like this idiot.
To Chatea , masterbation makes you blind. This is the 2010 list which is the latest.
Actually, no, it isn't. The 2011 list, which the OP refers to , has just been published.
Oh, and Jim Rossegnol, the PC Gamer Eve fan, wasn't on the selection panel this year.
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Jason Farstrider
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Posted - 2011.02.10 14:18:00 -
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You need to be a particular kind of person to get any kind of enjoyment whatsoever from EVE. This is something that a lot of EVE players simply don't understand. I think there are three threads in GD right now saying something along the lines of "[I sent my friend/gf a trial for EVE and he/she hated it, how do I make him/her like it?]".
Xanthia hits the nail on the head, and to be honest the people flaming him for it are proving his point.
EVE is riddled with flaws. In particular the new player experience (despite a lot of work from CCP) is terrible, and the community is full of people who prey on new players.
EVE is unique. It has its niche all to itself. That does not make it the "best". WoW and Deus Ex especially have been tremendously influential in a way that EVE simply never has. There are a few eyebrow-raisers in the list, but the omission of EVE does not in any way surprise me.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.02.10 14:24:00 -
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To be fair, the only people who play EVE are the masochists who hung in there long enough to dish it back to community tenfold.
Not many people like to get their behinds kicked by whatever their RL throws at them, then wind down to a game telling them to HTFU while destroying the last month of work.
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2011.02.10 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sinister Dextor
The 2011 list, which the OP refers to , has just been published.
Could you provide a link to that list? Or is it only in the printed magazine?
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DJWiggles
Gallente
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2011.02.10 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: DJWiggles on 10/02/2011 14:55:37
Edited by: DJWiggles on 10/02/2011 14:55:06
Originally by: Kolmogorow
Originally by: Sinister Dextor
The 2011 list, which the OP refers to , has just been published.
Could you provide a link to that list? Or is it only in the printed magazine?
I have the mag infront of me and its not in there but is there "100 best pc games of all time" and not there 2011 chart. It miffed me too as there is a couple of other "MMO's" in there but no eve ... at least WoW wasnt number 1 ... it was number 2 first went to Deus Ex.
also :) this is a great comment :D
Now with added extra Wigglyness and a big white fluffy bunny suit with a BLUE BOW TIE on Mondays 19:00 - 22:00 GMT on EVE-Radio.
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Chatea
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Posted - 2011.02.10 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sinister Dextor
Edited by: Sinister Dextor on 10/02/2011 13:30:13
Edited by: Sinister Dextor on 10/02/2011 13:26:31
Originally by: Chatea
I hate trolls that have good bait like this idiot.
To Chatea , masterbation makes you blind. This is the 2010 list which is the latest.
Actually, no, it isn't. The 2011 list, which the OP refers to , has just been published.
Oh, and Jim Rossegnol, the PC Gamer Eve fan, wasn't on the selection panel this year.
Also, quoted from the discussion thread :-
'No Eve......unless I've missed it....
It was in a top spot, but then the other games got jealous and gathered together to gank it. Either that, or we forgot it somehow. Whoops.'
Ugh, well if it's just been published the website should have the list in the near future. I would like a copy of the list if possible SO this means that Deus Ex is the greatest game on the list two years running!
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DJWiggles
Gallente
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2011.02.10 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Chatea
Originally by: Sinister Dextor
Edited by: Sinister Dextor on 10/02/2011 13:30:13
Edited by: Sinister Dextor on 10/02/2011 13:26:31
Originally by: Chatea
I hate trolls that have good bait like this idiot.
To Chatea , masterbation makes you blind. This is the 2010 list which is the latest.
Actually, no, it isn't. The 2011 list, which the OP refers to , has just been published.
Oh, and Jim Rossegnol, the PC Gamer Eve fan, wasn't on the selection panel this year.
Also, quoted from the discussion thread :-
'No Eve......unless I've missed it....
It was in a top spot, but then the other games got jealous and gathered together to gank it. Either that, or we forgot it somehow. Whoops.'
Ugh, well if it's just been published the website should have the list in the near future. I would like a copy of the list if possible SO this means that Deus Ex is the greatest game on the list two years running!
Shame Jim wasn't on the panel. Was John 'crap healer' Walker on it?
This is of ALL time not there 2011 list which will come out sometime around august normally
Now with added extra Wigglyness and a big white fluffy bunny suit with a BLUE BOW TIE on Mondays 19:00 - 22:00 GMT on EVE-Radio.
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Astral Lateris
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Posted - 2011.02.10 15:18:00 -
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I published my own PC top ten list for 2010.
1.) Eve Online
2.) Age of Conan
3.) Fallen Earth
4.) Mine Craft
5.) Wurm Online
6.) Guild Wars
7.) LOTRO
8.) Anarchy Online
9.) City of Heroes
10.)Dark Fall
Number one worst MMORPG of 2010 :)
1.) World of Warcraft
Best free development tools for games
1.) UDK UT III Tools
2.) Unity
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.02.10 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: KaarBaak
Originally by: Syphon Lodian
Edited by: Syphon Lodian on 10/02/2011 00:02:07
PCGamer kinda sucks now. They don't seem to take note on console ports, or even differentiate between the two. I'd put a wager down on saying most of the editors/staff on PCGamer play more console games.
They also miss a Ton of PC exclusives, which is sad, for a "PC Gaming" publication.
They just pick up on every "blockbuster" title that's coming out, like every other random publication. They're mostly a glorified blog site. Regurgitating announcements like the rest of the fourth estate. No one seems to "specialize" in reporting a certain craft anymore. It's all 'same-y'.
/agree. I had a 7-8 year sub (of the US version) and finally cancelled it a few years ago. All of the reviews/articles read like console gamers who are forced to review PC games. Even their hardware section turned into advertisements rather than honest reviews.
So, most anything you read in there is rubbish. That said, there is some truth in the description of Eve as a "niche" game.
KB
Seconded. I used to be a subscriber to PC Format, but it went the same way. Instead of actual reviews of things it just read like "hey we're paid to say this is awesome and no there are no bugs". I think it was trying to be a bit "edgy" or something it just turned to crap though.
I have no difficulty imagining PC Gamer has gone the same route.
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Ticarus Hellbrandt
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Posted - 2011.02.10 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Chatea
57. Sensible World of Soccer
56. Eve Online
55. Dungeon Keeper
54. Star Control 2
The survey is biased, the guy must have been horribly killed or scammed to place it this badly.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.02.10 16:03:00 -
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I assume most of you are talking about the US version of PC Gamer, which is a massive stinking pile of horse manure. I almost WEPT the day the US and UK PC Gamer website and Steam community merged 
Havign said that though, Deus Ex is a deserved first, and WoW should rank highly (despite the contempt many of us hold for it) simply because of what it has managed to accomplish.
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DTMKnight
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Posted - 2011.02.10 17:35:00 -
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I would like to argue in favor of EVE over this topic but can not. The massive amount of bugs EVE has had for years without them being fixed justifies not having EVE in the top 100. Think about it on a simple level. When I turn of my launchers I still hear the missile launch sound and in many cases this is the only sound I ever hear while playing despite the fact I have sounds turned on.
Any game that does not seem to make an effort to fix issues/bugs should not be considered a great game. Also CCP needs to send them more stuff;)
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Mister Alt
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Posted - 2011.02.10 19:36:00 -
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TBH anyone here that doesnt understand what Deus Ex did for games, and the things its did that are still being ignored today, really shouldnt have an opinion in this (Unless of course they're the unlucky few that played the 2nd one)
Back on topic lets face it. We all know eve is a massive pile of stinking ****. The only reason for being here is because there isnt anything decent that has the same freedom. If a developer were to release a game tomorrow with even half the whole "open world sandbox 1server" stuff and 1/4 of the bugs, half assed content, excessive and idiotic nerfs/buffs and broken promises then CCP would be up a creek
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SomeHardLovin
The Boondock Saints
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Posted - 2011.02.10 19:59:00 -
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I'd have to include:
1) The Curse of Monkey Island (truly hilarious!!)
2) XCOM - UFO Defence (legitimately creepy)
3) City of Hero's (I really enjoyed the heck out of that game)
4) Ultima Online (ditto)
5) SimCity
6) Civilization IV
7) Doom (i'm surprised this wasn't the best game of all time, it fathered SO many other things)
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ArmyOfMe
Pastry Productions Inc.
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2011.02.10 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: SomeHardLovin
Edited by: SomeHardLovin on 10/02/2011 19:59:32
I'd have to include:
1) The Curse of Monkey Island (truly hilarious!!)
2) XCOM - UFO Defence (legitimately creepy)
3) City of Hero's (I really enjoyed the heck out of that game)
4) Ultima Online (ditto)
5) SimCity (damn you Godzilla!)
6) Civilization IV (Civ I was great, Civ IV was perfect)
7) Doom (i'm surprised this wasn't the best game of all time, it fathered SO many other things)
pretty decent list, but u forgot dune
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.10 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Chatea
I hate trolls that have good bait like this idiot.
To the op, masterbation makes you blind. This is the 2010 list which is the latest. EvE online has been in the top 100 list every year for god knows how many years now.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/06/10/pc-gamer-top-100/
60. Street Fighter IV
59. Planetside
58. Space Giraffe
57. Sensible World of Soccer
56. Eve Online
55. Dungeon Keeper
54. Star Control 2
53. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
52. Combat Mission Beyond Overlord
51. Spelunky
From the 2008 list (where EvE online is ranked no.13)
Jim says "I've written more on this game than I care to recall, but I've still failed to capture quite what it means. Singular, almost unplayable, it's the misunderstood bohemian genius of the MMO world."
Further more. Deus Ex is the best game of all time. To dislike it is fine (if immoral) but to say it is not a good game is incorrect, your opinion is invalid and may god have mercy on the soulless husk that is your flacid body.
Here's the thing, opinions are subjective and therefore opinions.
I played Street fighter II, as we all have. I even remember calling the nintendo hotline in the days before the internet and asking for hints on beating M. Bison with Dhalsim. They told me "Good luck, only 1 guy here did it one time". Anyway, the point is that it was an awesome game, way ahead of its time, nostalgic to most of us, and not in one single aspect is it better than eve online. Yet it is rated higher. So take the word of people who think street fighter is better than Eve if you want.
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