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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.10 11:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Dorn Val
The exit for a worm hole does not exists until someone activates the entrance side.
I really wish people would stop stating this as fact.
It is a theory. While it is a theory I support, it is still but a theory. Unless a dev confirms it, it is near impossible to prove this theory 100%, though evidence can be used to support it.
Regardless, it is a theory, not fact (yet).
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.10 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Floydd Heywood
The facts are: ::conclusions from theories::
These arenĘt facts. They are conclusions (albeit very solid ones). The day we see someone in a target system see a K162 wormhole spawn as his buddy initiates warp to a static in the origin system is the day all of this becomes fact.
Until then it is conjecture, theory, strong conclusions.
It is not fact.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.10 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano
Originally by: XXSketchxx
Originally by: Dorn Val
The exit for a worm hole does not exists until someone activates the entrance side.
I really wish people would stop stating this as fact.
It is a theory. While it is a theory I support, it is still but a theory. Unless a dev confirms it, it is near impossible to prove this theory 100%, though evidence can be used to support it.
Regardless, it is a theory, not fact (yet).
For a long time I argued on the side that the K162 side spawned exactly at the same time as the origin end. This scenario made me question this belief however.
-Just some average day in w-space.-
1. I MWD out of POS shield, drop one deep space probe, run a 256AU scan. I get 1 signature on results, our static exit.
2. I immediately hit d-scan and see a decloaked Buzzard.
3. I do another 256AU scan with the same deep space probe, and get two results.
4. I scan down the new signature, and find an incoming wormhole from highsec. I jump through.
5. Drake is sitting on the highsec side. A few seconds later, corp mate of the Drake in the same Buzzard I saw on d-scan pops back out to highsec.
The timing of this scenario was so short, that it's impossible that the K162 appeared in my system before he probed it down, it had to have been when he initiated warp or landed on grid.
Sometimes your beliefs get shattered.
Not sure if you are trying to prove something to me here, but read my post again. I said this is a theory I support. In fact I remember the heated debates that took place well over a year ago about this mechanic. Back then the tables were turned; a lot more people were of the opinion that both sides spawned simultaneously.
I have had similar experiences to yours. I also used to not initiate warp to my statics so as to "keep the door closed."
Regardless, despite all of this "evidence", this is still a theory.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.11 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dorn Val
Originally by: XXSketchxx
Originally by: Dorn Val
The exit for a worm hole does not exists until someone activates the entrance side.
I really wish people would stop stating this as fact.
It is a theory. While it is a theory I support, it is still but a theory. Unless a dev confirms it, it is near impossible to prove this theory 100%, though evidence can be used to support it.
Regardless, it is a theory, not fact (yet).
Not going to feed you...
You're an idiot if you think thats a troll.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.11 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Greg Huff
Originally by: Cipher Jones
I have verified this many many times.
Just curious... How did you verify that both ends of the wormhole existed prior to approaching either of them?
scanned down many many Wh's from the inside. It gives a special message if the wormhole is brand new. sometimes the new wh is a k162 and sometimes it is one of the other numbers. I got the "brand new" message on both k162's and the other numbers as well.
Sit in a WH. wait for the static to close. when the new WH opens scan it down. Sometimes the new hole will be a k162. it cant possibly have already been scanned down from the other side or warped to from the other side when you are the first to do both. Had to wait till a WH opened into an unpopulated system to verify that.
Can you elaborate more on your process?
It sounds like you are saying you waited for the static (a non-K162) to collapse and then found a K162 that replaced it? If so, you are wrong. The K162 is not the static, its an inbound wormhole and you did not find the new static.
And you do know most people that warp to a wh usually do so cloaked right? "Unpopulated" in wormhole space is pretty hard to prove...
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.11 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Unpopulated in Kspace is instantly verifiable however.
When you are in a wh, there is only 1 exit, the wh closes, and a new wh opens, and local (on the other side) is empty , it was not scanned down yet.
You can use one of the many sites that track system jumps to verify.
1. The jump tracking does not update "immediately."
2. You're not proving anything here by saying that you jumped through the new static and no one was there.
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