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My Postman	Posted - 2011.02.14 10:32:00 - [31] Anyway, OP has a point, and there are fare more "useless" threads in here than this. Imo there is no point in mailing "good kills" when get bursted in a sebo¦d interceptor (or else), when not having a chance to warp to save. Everyone of us knows how hard it is to catch a pod, and when the OP lost it as well he might do it wrong, or just beeing unlucky. But, as always (or at least many times) you will meet your offender again, and this time the odds may be on your side. Don¦t forget this and be patient. Time for revenge will come and it¦s up to you to be prepared.
Asp IV	Posted - 2011.02.14 12:54:00 - [32] Edited by: Asp IV on 14/02/2011 12:54:15 Well it's a known neutralization technique to grovel in your own losses or try to act cheerful towards an opponent that just beat you to hell and back. It's very common among animals. In fencing. "nice point, when opponent expertly catches you off guard and hit your chest with a well timed lunge" However if shooting fish in a barrel eve-style results in a smiley sent by mail you're way off. How to handle ship loss in eve: RESHIP. GF/GG/ Propaganda is a soft weapon; hold it in your hands too long, and it will move about like a snake, and strike the other way. Elaborate Anachronism is shooting someone with a gun, and find out they
Dark Assassin15 Failed Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.02.14 14:24:00 - [33] i lold ---
Corozan Aspinall Party Time Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.14 14:33:00 - [34] Sound advice.
Ingvar Angst Amarr Omni Industrial Coalition Crooked Cross	Posted - 2011.02.14 14:49:00 - [35] Originally by: Aderata Nonkin Originally by: Red Rydah I'm very sorry, but there was no trolling here. Nothing to be sorry about sport, we all enjoy a little bit of stealth trolling from time to time. In your case it was blatantly obvious though. Dammit... anyone else's irony meter just short out?
Sral TBear Macaroni family	Posted - 2011.02.14 14:58:00 - [36] From my experience it is the new players between 1 day old up to 3 months old that realy ignite when they loose there ship. I call it V-time "vulnerble time" It is in this time frame they strugle with any loss simply because there Isk making are not in gear yet... 90% of the fan mail i recive are from players within the 3 month time frame. My 3 cents LTbear
JC Anderson Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.02.14 15:03:00 - [37] Originally by: Sral TBear From my experience it is the new players between 1 day old up to 3 months old that realy ignite when they loose there ship. I call it V-time "vulnerble time" It is in this time frame they strugle with any loss simply because there Isk making are not in gear yet... 90% of the fan mail i recive are from players within the 3 month time frame. My 3 cents LTbear I think I can agree with that... I take ship losses with little more than a shrug now days. But I seem to remember it bothering me a lot more years ago when I was still fairly new to the game.
Jenny Cameron Caldari Ordo Eventus	Posted - 2011.02.14 15:12:00 - [38] Originally by: Sral TBear From my experience it is the new players between 1 day old up to 3 months old that realy ignite when they loose there ship. I call it V-time "vulnerble time" It is in this time frame they strugle with any loss simply because there Isk making are not in gear yet ... 90% of the fan mail i recive are from players within the 3 month time frame. Yes you're right. If lose something I can replace easily (like the OP) I don't really care either, but for example for people who saved for months to buy their Hulk and have no means to replace it within a few weeks it's very very hard, hence the emotional outburst. ________________* - If you're in favour of a bloodline change please vote in the Assembly Hall in this thread -
Unprecedented	Posted - 2011.02.14 15:12:00 - [39] Here's the killmail. Some no-name player in a no-name corp. P.S. - Never buy anything from Amamake.
Red Rydah Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.02.14 16:03:00 - [40] Edited by: Red Rydah on 14/02/2011 16:04:13 Originally by: Unprecedented Here's the killmail. Some no-name player in a no-name corp. P.S. - Never buy anything from Amamake. Thanks for finding this. I think being called "no-name player" from someone with an adjective for a name somehow waters down the insult. At least this proves I wss not trolling.

Search Party	Posted - 2011.02.14 20:54:00 - [41] Edited by: Search Party on 14/02/2011 20:54:48 I think he was referring to the guy who killed you. He's just another sensor boosting nobody. Nothing special to see here.
Valhallas New Eden Robotics	Posted - 2011.02.15 00:03:00 - [42] I joined the corp of the first guys that jumped me. Had skilled up to an Exequror, yeah dream machine (this is back in the days when this actually meant something, nowadays they shove the skills up your ass so quick you never appreciate your 1st cruiser) Yeah, good times
Mara Galliard	Posted - 2011.02.15 04:18:00 - [43] Why is everyone saying the OP is being arrogant reminding the many, many new players that nerdraging when their little cruiser gets popped will make people laugh at them? It's true, and it's good advice, arrogant or not.
captain skinback	Posted - 2011.02.15 04:52:00 - [44] Originally by: Unprecedented Here's the killmail. Some no-name player in a no-name corp. P.S. - Never buy anything from Amamake. no name corp? heretic army is ranked at the top 100 corps on barttleclinic
Red Rydah Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.02.15 05:13:00 - [45] Edited by: Red Rydah on 15/02/2011 05:15:09 Originally by: captain skinback no name corp? heretic army is ranked at the top 100 corps on barttleclinic Nice to know I was blown to pieces by the New Eden equivalent of a Forbes 100 corporation. Red
Nypheas Azurai	Posted - 2011.02.15 08:02:00 - [46] Originally by: Mara Galliard Why is everyone saying the OP is being arrogant reminding the many, many new players that nerdraging when their little cruiser gets popped will make people laugh at them? It's true, and it's good advice, arrogant or not. Meh if a pirate wants to pirate you, then who's to stop a butthurt from butthurting you? Either way both parties get what they want, so what's the harm? Loss is inevitable, but it's arrogant to assume everyone should take it the same way in a sandbox game.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2011.02.15 08:49:00 - [47] Being buthurt is useless indeed, and raging at your killer is stupid. However congratulating someone for killing a noobie also seems kinda weird to me.
Aderata Nonkin	Posted - 2011.02.15 09:32:00 - [48] Originally by: Ingvar Angst Dammit... anyone else's irony meter just short out? The OP was obviously stealth trolling and I called him up on it. Of course he wouldn't confess to it, I wouldn't expect anyone to be honest about it on the Internet, but I still know the truth. I don't think your silly remark adds to this discussion though so refrain from sharing them in the future. Peace through supreme firepower
Sverige Pahis Caldari Random Selection. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2011.02.15 10:59:00 - [49] Originally by: Aderata Nonkin Originally by: Ingvar Angst Dammit... anyone else's irony meter just short out? The OP was obviously stealth trolling and I called him up on it. Of course he wouldn't confess to it, I wouldn't expect anyone to be honest about it on the Internet, but I still know the truth. I don't think your silly remark adds to this discussion though so refrain from sharing them in the future. Post with your main or shut up ty
AS LordASB	Posted - 2011.02.15 11:20:00 - [50] you have to take losses hell last year i lost a orca (fitted) which contained my 2 hulks (also fitted) and a raven plus someone else who was flying cover. total lost was a lot for me at 1.2b isk.. only took 2 months of working to get isk back for ships and refit them out. was just unlucky

Milla Jovobitch	Posted - 2011.02.16 06:08:00 - [51] Dude, what WERE you doing in Amamake anyway? You should know the place is no good for you. Plus, you've been blogged about, too.
Red Rydah Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.02.16 06:36:00 - [52] Edited by: Red Rydah on 16/02/2011 06:45:04 Originally by: Milla Jovo*** Dude, what WERE you doing in Amamake anyway? You should know the place is no good for you. Oh, but the bargains there are worth it! And I never get caught! Well....until recently... Originally by: Milla Jovo*** Plus, you've been blogged about, too. So I was podded by a member of the New Eden equivalent of a Forbes 100 company, and mentioned on his blog too? Things are looking up! And if you read his blog like I did, you'll see I handled my situation a lot better than the other twits who raged and screamed at him. The point of my post in the first place. Red
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition	Posted - 2011.02.16 07:00:00 - [53] Talk about taking losses, I had an all T2 fit Cyclone (just love these things) with a deadspace module get primaried by 20+ Sansha battleships during a pre-incursion incursion and rumor has it that the GMs direct the fire. If that's true then I can say that my greatest loss was being ganked by CCP. (of course I just had to fly in under the FCORD banner with no support - might as well AP through Amamake myself)
Pehk Mak'mel'ahma ODATRIK Integrated Solutions	Posted - 2011.02.16 07:54:00 - [54] Edited by: Pehk Mak''mel''ahma on 16/02/2011 08:00:07 You handled yourself well, Red, but remember this is EVE Online. Looking for good sportsman-ship here is like searching for snowballs in hell. Still, while you lost your ship and your pod, you may have denied "The Lukka" the tears he wanted. For someone "in pursuit of mathematically optimal ways to ruin peoples' day", that was probably as important to him as a killboard mark.
Joodea Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.02.19 07:38:00 - [55] confirming lukka is good in bed.
Tetsel Heretic Academy	Posted - 2011.02.20 06:11:00 - [56] confirming lukka is good in bed.


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