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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 10:51:00 -
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The Charles Ponzi School of Business Completely Uncollateralized, Unaudited, Very Complex, But Actually Not Fraudulent Investment System is a system of investments that are designed uniquely be Win-Win-Win for investors, the manager, and customers. And by "Win", I mean "Make Tons of Money". And by "Make Tons of Money" I mean "4%".
This is the second of the bonds issued. Hence the title "Bond #2".
I know that's enough for some of you, but for the rest, continue reading in this thread. The terms are the same, except this bond has a fixed rate of 4%. Also I answered some questions over here.
Long story short I received more interest in making goon loans than I expected, and I undersized my first bond, since I didn't think that MD would be all that receptive to the concept.
Current portfolio: 1) 500m in Coonfleet shares (50 shares @ 10m a share), est dividends of ~7%/month, irregularly paid 2) 2 Billion in a loan to a Goon (Goon K) @ 10%/month interest, 1 month duration. 3) 2.5 Billion in a loan to a Goon (Goon R) @ 10%/month interest, 4 month duration. 4) Cash: 100m.
tl;dr I'm selling bonds that I'm going to be reinvesting in Goonswarm investments that you people just don't have access to. Each bond is worth 100 Million isk, and will receive an interest payment once a month. Probably on or about the 15th of every month. I can call your bond at any time. You'll get paid the interest for that month in full if I do.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys I don't see the amount of this bond anywhere.
Does this mean you let go of the idea of only doing a 1B expansion and does it also mean this has no maximum investment?
Actually, I didn't really put a number on it, and I don't think I ever said 1b. Sorry if you thought so.
Honestly I'm expecting about a ton of flames for doing this so quickly after the last bond, so I want to keep the option to "move the goalpost" and save face if I get an underwhelming demand. That's why I didn't put down a maximum.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
You are right i need a reading comprehension book soontm.Would you be willing to make a max investment to this and also ask your previous investors if they feel comfortable with the max amount you choose ?
I'm really never going to say "PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME MORE MONEY AT 4%".
That being said, I'd have to work at making more than 20-25b in loans in the next two weeks (which I'd need to do to have interest coming in for the payment on the next 15th), so to keep this low effort, I'd stop there.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Fair and honest , but with a high cap on max investment i would like to withdraw my previous offer i made this morning in your other thread.
Still , good luck on this.
Fair enough. The odds of even getting close to that cap are quite long.
Perhaps if all of MD scurries from this offer like Cockroaches from the light we could work something out.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Tergum Vigilo Ill take a block of 100m. Dividends will be sent to Electus Ereptor pending continuation of your Bad Bobby clause for this bond.
As should be obvious to you kalrand , this is the person who used the character lethal entrepeneur to recently scam.He's just trying to get some extra attention as we know all the small time scammers allways do , hell might as well call him General Newbold .
I wanted to point this out in case it was not clear yet.If you take his offer or not is fully up to you offcourse.
Yea, I'm well aware of who he is.
My policy is "I don't care where or how you got your money." You can be Bad Bobby, IT alliance, or karttoon, and I'm not going to play internet space sheriff and get all vigilante with their investment.
I think the 100m offer is genuine, and yes, to get attention.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Caldariftw123
Sad, because I think you'd look real cute in a cowboy hat with a nice gold badge Saying "SHERRIF" ..
I try not to bring that weekend up in public...
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Kalrand
Yea, I'm well aware of who he is.
My policy is "I don't care where or how you got your money." You can be Bad Bobby, IT alliance, or karttoon, and I'm not going to play internet space sheriff and get all vigilante with their investment.
I think the 100m offer is genuine, and yes, to get attention.
The goood thing from this probably will be people will not invest because of this then the fact you are a goon 
That too. And someone will realize that "Bernie Ebbers" is my alt, and someone one else will point out that the CPSoB in the title stands for Charles Ponzi School of Business, etc etc.
My offers throw off more red flags than a communist marching band.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane So, I don't remember if this was covered in the first bond, but... audit?

It'd need to be another goon, since "Kalrand" has a bunch of permissions in Goonswarm that can't be public.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.14 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity Edited by: Misty McGinnity on 14/02/2011 22:37:51
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane So, I don't remember if this was covered in the first bond, but... audit?

Why backpeddling? weren't you offering to underwrite the bond in another Thread?
I don't think he was serious about the auditor here, but I do think other people might share that concern, so I answered it like it was serious.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.15 02:21:00 -
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I'm just going to remind people that this is actually a totally serious, overly optimistic, very early, but actually serious expansion offer.
And is still valid.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.15 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane I'll still offer to, as somebody else put it, underwrite this. I think I'd have to limit my own liability on that to about 10b though.
But why should anyone trust your investment techniques? you were recently scammed investing in a similar un-audited, rapid expansion Bond. Your creditability as an underwriter is shady to say the least. (i.e. you have made bad choices in the past & by the looks of the above quoted post, you continue to make bad choices)
KalBonds are never a bad choice!
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 05:33:00 -
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Notice that Misty stopped trying to troll me, and is now after anyone tangentially related to this.
Bonds are still for sale!
(Should I make a thread for you three to fight in?)
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Why do I not trust this bank?
1) this is a bond, not a bank.
2) You should. Look at the title. It's "totally fraud free". This differentiates it from all of the "totally fraud filled" bonds and banks we have on this board.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari But one question: will I get a small gain or just have my money borrowed and returned?
You will receive monthly interest payments, and a return of capital at the end of the bond with a final interest payment.
So if you put in 1b, you will receive 40m every month, and then 1.04b when your bond is called at the end.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Sweet. Where do I sign up?
... here.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari So do I contact you and send you a message in-game and send you ISK daily? Or do I give you my limited API, or what?
I tend to take isk in lumps, in multiples of 100m.
I'm not really set up for a daily deposits. Like I said, this is a bond, not a bank account.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Karsun
Originally by: Kalrand Charles Ponzi
If anybody gives you money after reading these two words... I'm sorry for them.
And apart from that, investing in a deal called "scam:1"... I mean, seriously... What are you doing here? Goons are known scammers and not only that, but you try to scam people in their eyes.
Bad troll should go to the eve general discussion... Or somewhere else in general :P
I told you people there would be some genius who would pop in here and post exactly this.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Two Shots
Sure, I'll take your money, but I don't know if 7000 isk is worth not being smug.
Stop being smug.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:43:00 -
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This is just a reminder that bonds are still available for purchase!
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Hello?
Hello.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Is there a cheaper way to purchase one? Or do I have to somehow acquire 100,000,000 ISK?
This bond really isn't an appropriate investment for someone with only a little isk to spare. You'll do much better by just buying better guns for your ratting ship.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.17 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Fred Freedom
Please make sure to ping me on Jabber in case I somehow forget.
This sir, is bad bad posting. You need to learn to be a good bad poster.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.17 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari What if I sent you just a few Million and recieved a lower income rate for it? I have just about 15,000,000 ISK in-game.
You do realize that I would be sending you 600,000 once a month.
That's really not much.
I can see you're new to the game. Have you thought of asking the people in your corp what would be a good thing for you to put your savings in?
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.17 20:18:00 -
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This is just a reminder that the CPSoBCUUVCBANF Investment System's Totally Fraud Free Bond #2 is still available for sale!
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.17 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand This is just a reminder that the CPSoBCUUVCBANF Investment System's Totally Fraud Free Bond #2 is still available for sale!
The window for investing in CPSoBCUUVCBANF Investment System's Totally Fraud Free Bond #2 has been withdrawn do to a lack of investor demand.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.21 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Bump.
This offer is closed.
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