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Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 15:18:00 - [1] How much isk is needed? 19.000.000.000 (nineteen billion) isk investment. You can also invest putting in BPOs. How will the isk be invested: It will be invested into capital component BPOs, plus 4 carrier BPOs. BPOs will be bought from NPC entities or from contracts (researched). The not yet researched BPOs will be researched to a satisfying level by me. I prefer to buy already researched BPOs. How can you invest: You can either wire the isk to me, or contract the BPOs to me. Be sure to contact me before you contract or wire anything. Only one of each bpo will be needed. What is my plan: This is a classic capital investment scheme, the difference is, that to secure your investment the BPOs will never be placed in any corp hangar, I will be the only person able to access them and manufacture them using my alts. This way your investment is thief-protected (considering that you trust me that I will not try to run away with your isk, but you will have to trust me on that, or browse the Crime and Punishment forums in search of my name). The component BPOs will never leave the high sec station they will be placed in, securing them in case of wars/suicide ganks/etc. The carrier BPOs will be copied before transporting to the low sec station the ship will be assembled at. Manufacturing of the final product will only be done by me and my alts. Also, I will be offering people a BYOM carrier construction service to help new pilots get into their first carriers. If all the minerals are delivered by the interested party, a flat fee of 150m will be taken (may change depending on future calculations), this fee will naturally also be object to dividend payouts. Every shareholder will be able to view a online document in which all production will be listed so that you can keep track of all the transactions. It will contain stages of the production and future reserved capitals. Ok, but what's your profit? There are two ways that you will profit: I. Every time there will be a ship sale, you will get a payout equaling: [(P û C)i/t] - 5% where: 1. P û total price of sold vessel 2. C û cost of production of the sold vessel 3. i û your investment 4. t û total value of all investments (19b) 5. -5% - that's what I earn II. You will be able to use the BPOs for your own capital ship production. Once every month every shareholder who holds a bond worth at least 1b isk can ask for a BYOM carrier of his choice IF he lost it. Carrier deaths have to be API verified, you can also just pay me the mineral costs and I will produce the vessel for you. Every shareholder holding at least 1b isk can ask for his first carrier at any time, he just needs to provide the minerals or the isk for the minerals. How to keep track of shares and payouts?* I will create a corporation that will have 19.000 shares, each share given away for 1 million isk paid to the program. The name of the corporation will be published later on. Will there be an option for selling back your shares later? Yes, in time I will start buying back your shares for their initial value if you chose to sell them back to me. As long as there will be shareholders, there will be dividend payouts. Massive buy-back clause û if at any moment I will have enough isk to buy all your shares out (owned by all share holders) I reserve my self an option to do so. In such a case the shares will stay in the hands of the owners, everybody will be informed in advance. Everybody will get an isk transfer of an amount equal to the share value (+5%) he or she owns and no further dividends will be paid out. In this case you cannot lose isk û you will get a 5% payout bonus no matter how much you've earned on the program before. READ FURTHER
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 15:22:00 - [2] Edited by: Sealiah on 15/02/2011 15:29:41 Edited by: Sealiah on 15/02/2011 15:29:24 Edited by: Sealiah on 15/02/2011 15:22:55 Can I offer any collateral? No, I do not offer collateral. You are investing in a future business, this is not a loan I am asking for. I will offer my api key to bigger investors. List of investors: Some investors may chose to stay annonymous. Sealiah û 1b isk (will be invested in a Thanatos carrier bpo) Azmith û Capital Construction Parts BPO, Capital Drone Bay BPO Channel for investors and future investors: CLBC CP Please ask all your questions there, or via eve mail. List Of needed BPOs: Carrier BPOs: Thanatos CHECK Chimera Archon Nidhoggur Components BPOs: Armor Plates Capacitor Battery Computer System Construction Parts CHECK Corp Hangar Drone Bay CHECK Jump Drive Power Generator Propulsion Engine Sensor Cluster Shield Emitter Ship Maint. Bay
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 15:25:00 - [3] reserved
Azmith Caldari New-Roots	Posted - 2011.02.15 15:27:00 - [4] Invested Always good to see new businesses popping up Keeps the economy running
Florestan Bronstein	Posted - 2011.02.15 15:42:00 - [5] This offering could be made a lot more attractive to potential investors by arranging BPO lockdown with a trusted 3rd party.
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 15:48:00 - [6] Originally by: Florestan Bronstein This offering could be made a lot more attractive to potential investors by arranging BPO lockdown with a trusted 3rd party. I've contacted third parties and waiting for replies on their side if they'd like to invest in the program. On the other hand, you mean that an alt of the third party would be in power of the bpos in the corporation and I could only use them without moving? I am not sure how that mechanic works so unable to "offer" it, but it could be an object to discussion. Could you explain / link to the procedure?
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.15 16:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Sealiah I've contacted third parties and waiting for replies on their side if they'd like to invest in the program. On the other hand, you mean that an alt of the third party would be in power of the bpos in the corporation and I could only use them without moving? I am not sure how that mechanic works so unable to "offer" it, but it could be an object to discussion. Could you explain / link to the procedure? You'd need to cede the ability to "unlock" the BPO from a corporate hangar. The simplest way to do that is to create a purpose made corp for this venture. I'm sure Raw/Cosmo/etc will be along in a few minutes to flush this out.
Primeara Ho	Posted - 2011.02.15 16:18:00 - [8] Will there be an initial Audit? Will there be monthly/weekly 3rd party financial statements? Your share will be 1/19th do you intend to keep it that way until the buyback? How will you provide information about your current stake in the corp? And will you buy out the investors before you reach 50% of the shares ?
Freyja Horn	Posted - 2011.02.15 16:35:00 - [9] How will you be acquiring the minerals for this Business? It doesn't say in your Business model that you will be buying minerals it only states "BPOs"
Corcyrus Endymion Caldari Excessum Corporation Excessum Gaming	Posted - 2011.02.15 16:51:00 - [10] I guess this should/will only fly if the BPOs are locked down. If not.. it's pretty steep that there 19B.
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:04:00 - [11] Originally by: Primeara Ho Will there be an initial Audit? Will there be monthly/weekly 3rd party financial statements? Your share will be 1/19th do you intend to keep it that way until the buyback? How will you provide information about your current stake in the corp? And will you buy out the investors before you reach 50% of the shares ? There will be constant updates on the financial situation/investments/progress of jobs the moment they happen. There will be monthly summaries posted on request of any shareholder. I intend to keep my 1/19th untill the mass-buyback. In case of a shareholder would want to get rid of the shares faster and I would have the isk at hand, I would buy them, but I will not contact you to buy them up untill I can buy all of them out. Current information will be published on the CLBC.pl page, it will be password protected so only shareholders will have access. I will buy out the investors when I gather all the isk, it can happen either if you come to me wanting to sell the shares, or if I gather all the funds and then buy out all of you at once. Originally by: Freyja Horn How will you be acquiring the minerals for this Business? It doesn't say in your Business model that you will be buying minerals it only states "BPOs" Big high sec buy orders and/or directly from bigger mining entities.
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:10:00 - [12] Will there be an initial audit?
Varo Jan Caravanserai Consulting	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Sealiah This is a classic capital investment scheme, the difference is, that to secure your investment the BPOs will never be placed in any corp hangar, I will be the only person able to access them and manufacture them using my alts. This way your investment is thief-protected (considering that you trust me that I will not try to run away with your isk, but you will have to trust me on that, or browse the Crime and Punishment forums in search of my name). No dice. For this to work, the BPOs would have to be locked down by a trusted third party. Quote: The component BPOs will never leave the high sec station they will be placed in, securing them in case of wars/suicide ganks/etc. The carrier BPOs will be copied before transporting to the low sec station the ship will be assembled at. Manufacturing of the final product will only be done by me and my alts. So you intend to manufacture the components in high sec. How do you plan to transport them to low sec? Have you considered mineral compression issues? Quote: I. Every time there will be a ship sale, you will get a payout equaling: [(P û C)*i/t] - 5% where: 1. P û total price of sold vessel 2. C û cost of production of the sold vessel 3. i û your investment 4. t û total value of all investments (19b) 5. -5% - that's what I earn So you want 5% off the top.
Primeara Ho	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:18:00 - [14] Originally by: SencneS Entrepreneur asks for funds to purchase BPOs. Additional funds can not exceed 20% of BPO's value. Entrepreneur is hands over all Shares in the corporation equally to all investors. Figurehead of publics choosing becomes CEO of the Corporation. Figurehead CEO issues Entrepreneur all rights apart from "take" from one Division. Entrepreneur does not get Director. Investors send Figurehead CEO funds directly. Figurehead CEO purchases all BPOs and places them in the non-take Division at Entrepreneur's chosen base of operation. Figurehead CEO issues lock down votes of BPOs. Figurehead CEO issues any additional funds to corporate wallet. Entrepreneur uses the Corporate wallet for all activities. Figurehead CEO issues Full Access API to Investors. Entrepreneur must have performance audit done Monthly. Would you be ok with this setup ?
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Liberty Eternal Will there be an initial audit? If I understand correctly, an initial audit is proving to the investors that I've got the capability to perform the task that I'm claiming that I can perform. Yes - I will provide api keys to prove that I've got the production and refining skills required to maintain the line. Yes - I will provide the shareholders with information regarding the place of production, the current state of the bpos, the minerals that I own, orders set up, etc. Am I missing the meaning? What infromation would you like provided?
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:33:00 - [16] Originally by: Primeara Ho Originally by: SencneS Entrepreneur asks for funds to purchase BPOs. Additional funds can not exceed 20% of BPO's value. Entrepreneur is hands over all Shares in the corporation equally to all investors. Figurehead of publics choosing becomes CEO of the Corporation. Figurehead CEO issues Entrepreneur all rights apart from "take" from one Division. Entrepreneur does not get Director. Investors send Figurehead CEO funds directly. Figurehead CEO purchases all BPOs and places them in the non-take Division at Entrepreneur's chosen base of operation. Figurehead CEO issues lock down votes of BPOs. Figurehead CEO issues any additional funds to corporate wallet. Entrepreneur uses the Corporate wallet for all activities. Figurehead CEO issues Full Access API to Investors. Entrepreneur must have performance audit done Monthly. Would you be ok with this setup ? That setup would work perfectly if there wouldn't be much cost in having this figurehead. Also, in such a case, how would it be possible to block overthrowing the figurehead by voters? I don't want it to end like with Titans4You. The corporation would need a dictatorship system to prevent that. As far as I know 3rd parties charge a lot for this kind of activity.
Primeara Ho	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:33:00 - [17] Basicly if your willing to give the full API key before this thing starts full you agree to a initial audit and the investors would be happy. The auditor may write some eve mails with you to get some more infos if needed.
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Primeara Ho Basicly if your willing to give the full API key before this thing starts full you agree to a initial audit and the investors would be happy. The auditor may write some eve mails with you to get some more infos if needed. Ok, I will provide the full api to the auditor (3rd party).
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:43:00 - [19] A dictatorship system with someone else in charge will not prevent you from pulling a T4U style coup. A few questions if I may. What is your current NAV excluding characters. What is the current value of your chatacters. (250isk per SP) Have you ever bought or sold a character. What would you consider to be the minimum isk value you would scam for. Thanking you in advance for your answers.
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 17:50:00 - [20] Edited by: Sealiah on 15/02/2011 17:56:40 Edited by: Sealiah on 15/02/2011 17:56:16 Originally by: Lauren Hellfury A dictatorship system with someone else in charge will not prevent you from pulling a T4U style coup. A few questions if I may. What is your current NAV excluding characters. What is the current value of your chatacters. (250isk per SP) Have you ever bought or sold a character. What would you consider to be the minimum isk value you would scam for. Thanking you in advance for your answers. Those are actually strange questions. At least the one about scamming is. If I did want to scam everyone, I wouldn't say, would I? NAV - I'd make a rough bet around 10b isk in accessible (not locked in 0.0) assets. Value of my characters - considering each SP would be 250 isk, it'd be above 20.250.000.000 (I rounded my SP down to make it easier to count, only took full millions). I haven't ever bought or sold a character, I tried to buy a hauling alt once, but finally trained one my self. I would never scam anyone. I work hard for my reputation, got a few trusted business partners and never scammed anyone. I prefer to build rather than to destroy.
Zahra Eclypse	Posted - 2011.02.15 22:54:00 - [21] Edited by: Zahra Eclypse on 15/02/2011 23:01:37 Edited by: Zahra Eclypse on 15/02/2011 22:59:32 Considering the fact that a few of these kinds of investments were robbed dry because they DID have third parties AND a share system at the same time, would it be possible not to have one but two entities? I haven't found anything on you (naturally you've got to start at some point) I find it safer not to have a voting system or any way of influencing the bpos. Maybe a two corp system - where one corp would be the one holding shares of shareholders, where the dividends would be paid out and the 2nd corp with the bpos stored there? It'd work like this: Corp A, Corp B Corp A - 19k shares, shares distributed equally to investment, hold no assets nor isk except the payout isk, only CEO as member. Corp B - no shares given out, one CEO who'd lock down the bpos, any number of manufacturing alt(s) as members who'd have access to the bpos only for manufacturing purposes. I personally don't think that locking them or using a third party has a point, you've got to give a person with an idea a chance and lets face it, a 1 bil investment isn't that much isk, even if I put it at some risk. This way shareholders can never run away with the BPOs BECAUSE they don't even have indirect control of them and at the same time we can get full api details on the corp that does have the bpos, control the wallet balance and all the other stuff. If you'd go with that two corp system I would invest 1b or maybe even 2b into this. No third parties, no big investment risk, I'd say it's worth a dice roll. PS - yes, this is an alt and no, I will not give you my main details. It should not matter to you who I am, I give you the money, you give me the honey. PS2 - I'd forget... "no third parties" - but the corp holding the bpos could have the third party CEO to lock down the bpos. This way it's best of both worlds. The only thing is - got to find a third party worth trusting enough as he'd be the only shareholder in corp B
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.15 23:15:00 - [22] Originally by: Zahra Eclypse Edited by: Zahra Eclypse on 15/02/2011 23:01:37 Edited by: Zahra Eclypse on 15/02/2011 22:59:32 Considering the fact that a few of these kinds of investments were robbed dry because they DID have third parties AND a share system at the same time, would it be possible not to have one but two entities? I haven't found anything on you (naturally you've got to start at some point) I find it safer not to have a voting system or any way of influencing the bpos. Maybe a two corp system - where one corp would be the one holding shares of shareholders, where the dividends would be paid out and the 2nd corp with the bpos stored there? It'd work like this: Corp A, Corp B Corp A - 19k shares, shares distributed equally to investment, hold no assets nor isk except the payout isk, only CEO as member. Corp B - no shares given out, one CEO who'd lock down the bpos, any number of manufacturing alt(s) as members who'd have access to the bpos only for manufacturing purposes. I personally don't think that locking them or using a third party has a point, you've got to give a person with an idea a chance and lets face it, a 1 bil investment isn't that much isk, even if I put it at some risk. This way shareholders can never run away with the BPOs BECAUSE they don't even have indirect control of them and at the same time we can get full api details on the corp that does have the bpos, control the wallet balance and all the other stuff. If you'd go with that two corp system I would invest 1b or maybe even 2b into this. No third parties, no big investment risk, I'd say it's worth a dice roll. PS - yes, this is an alt and no, I will not give you my main details. It should not matter to you who I am, I give you the money, you give me the honey. PS2 - I'd forget... "no third parties" - but the corp holding the bpos could have the third party CEO to lock down the bpos. This way it's best of both worlds. The only thing is - got to find a third party worth trusting enough as he'd be the only shareholder in corp B Actually, this looks good. I'd tweak it a bit (consider that I'm going to bed soonTM so I may make some errors. Corp A - holding 19k shares, shares given to investors, CEO would be any random alt of mine, full api given to investors. Corp B - holding 1k shares, all shares owned by the third party. Members would be my production alts. All isk and capital bpos would be given to the 3rd party who would buy the remaining bpos and put them into corp B. The locking vote would take place and since 3rd party would have all the shares - he'd win it and lock them. Production can now easily take place using the bpos located in the proper stations. Investors would be safe since it is all locked and I can't access them. I would be safe because investors, even if there is share manipulation, cannot access the bpos at any time. Model seems fool-proof and thief-proof so I will post it as the model we are aiming for in the 3rd post :) And good night for now, I'm really, really tired and got to sleep.
Varo Jan Caravanserai Consulting	Posted - 2011.02.16 00:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Sealiah Actually, this looks good. I'd tweak it a bit (consider that I'm going to bed soonTM so I may make some errors. Corp A - holding 19k shares ... Corp B - holding 1k shares ... Overly-complicated and doesn't answer some fundamental questions re working capital, profit forecasts, production location and more. This is a sizeable first offering and it needs a lot more flesh on the bones before you even start asking for money from investors. It's also very similar to the old Atima IPO, which did not make stellar returns for its investors. It could fly if certain criteria are met. The public investment needs to be covered by conservatively valued BPOs, which means that you will have to provide the working capital. You need to demonstrate past experience of the same or similar large scale manufacturing operations. You need to demonstrate an understanding of the logistics involved, including those related to a low-sec operation. Answering my earlier questions would be a start. What are your profitability projections? BPO lockdown strategy could follow the model I used at One Stop. I would not recommend using two corps for investors, or paying investors through the share system.
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.02.16 01:43:00 - [24] Couple of mentionables 1. You will need at least 3 capital drone bay bpo in order to ensure that all 4 of your carrier bpo are being copied. 2. You haven't mentioned this but did you ask your alliance for isk before coming here? If so, why didn't they invest in you? If not, why haven't you asked your alliance? 3. How are you valuing researched blueprints? 4a. Why don't you just turn this into a business of producing carrier bpc pack? Only differences is that you're removing the risk of getting ganked/attacked while moving bpcs and carrier material to the lowsec station. This would make this venture a little more safer for investors to get into. 4b. Why don't you have the blueprint locked down at the low-sec station itself? A carrier blueprint will take 28 days to copy (including pos, 5% and max skill). Manufacturing with the bpo (instead of bpc), you will double your output and increase profit for the investors. It's true that you're running into the risk of losing your bpo while trying to get it to the station of your choice but that's what your alliance is there for. 5. Who are your alts?
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.02.16 01:54:00 - [25] Edited by: Brock Nelson on 16/02/2011 01:55:06 I read over everything and you forgot to mention 1 key thing, how much can investors make? There isn't any numbers posted here to back up what you have to say about how much investors can make. If one of the investors come back and say, I lost my carrier, hook me up with a byom pack, how does that profit loss of that byom being given to the investor affect other investors? That will eat into almost 1/4 of the profit depending on what carrier it is and how this is currently setup.
Companion Qube Minmatar Electron Conservation Inc	Posted - 2011.02.16 02:00:00 - [26] I'm sad you didn't name this business TITANS 4ME. drunkpoasting best poasting
Magnu Stormhawk Stormhawk Enterprises	Posted - 2011.02.16 09:42:00 - [27] Originally by: Varo Jan What are your profitability projections? This Originally by: Brock Nelson I read over everything and you forgot to mention 1 key thing, how much can investors make? and this Originally by: Sealiah Ok, but what's your profit? There are two ways that you will profit: I. Every time there will be a ship sale, you will get a payout equaling: [(P û C)*i/t] - 5% where: 1. P û total price of sold vessel 2. C û cost of production of the sold vessel 3. i û your investment 4. t û total value of all investments (19b) 5. -5% - that's what I earn All very nice, but totally meaningless without some numbers to back it up. There is a lot of talk about the structure of the operation in this thread but I am yet to see whether it would be a worthwhile investment even if it was as secure as possible. I am also yet to see whether you have any idea what you or the investors are going to get out of it.
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.16 10:07:00 - [28] Originally by: Varo Jan The public investment needs to be covered by conservatively valued BPOs, which means that you will have to provide the working capital. You need to demonstrate past experience of the same or similar large scale manufacturing operations. You need to demonstrate an understanding of the logistics involved, including those related to a low-sec operation. Answering my earlier questions would be a start. What are your profitability projections? BPO lockdown strategy could follow the model I used at One Stop. I would not recommend using two corps for investors, or paying investors through the share system. I will provide the working capital (not only isk, but a relatively big pile of ores I've managed to collect). Demonstrating past experiance - the only way I could demonstrate my past experiance was on another field - large scale pos mining and complex reactions of up to 6 poses (currently own 4 and taking down 2 soon because of this future plan). I've been supplying the jita market and certain individuals with bluk crystalline carbonide and sylramic fibers for almost two years. I understand the logistics involved - I keep my mining poses in low sec (kept them in 0.0 before that), delivering fuel and some minerals and then coming back safely was never a problem, I never lost a single freighter. I know how to manage the risk. Profitability will be relatively high, because I will buy all the required ores unrefined threw buy orders or directly from miners. Exact numbers cannot be stated, but I will try to publish a more or less accurate estimate soon. If I have only a few investors, it is possible to not pay threw shares, but this option is absolutely necessary if there are more investors. The two corp system (as far as I understand the mechanic) prevents the titans4you incident where bpos were unlocked and stolen thanks to swapping shareholders. And as for replacing carriers - everyone can use this option, every shareholder (if they have 1 bil isk of shares or more), this means that it could hit you, but you can use this option too, everyone can. The carrier would also naturally be placed on the end of the que. Originally by: Companion Qube I'm sad you didn't name this business TITANS 4ME. And I'm sad to see the first inconstructive comment in this thread. Are you implying that I am the same person as the titans4you scammer? Originally by: Brock Nelson 1. You will need at least 3 capital drone bay bpo in order to ensure that all 4 of your carrier bpo are being copied. I don't expect to have enough customers at first for that to be an issue. When it becomes an issue, that's calling expanding the business and I will do it if necessary (5% cut out from all share holders should easily cut it). Originally by: Brock Nelson 2. You haven't mentioned this but did you ask your alliance for isk before coming here? If so, why didn't they invest in you? If not, why haven't you asked your alliance? No I did not ask them directly, but I've passed the thread on to them, if they want to, they can invest. Originally by: Brock Nelson 3. How are you valuing researched blueprints? +10% if researched properly (that's a very common sight on the sell orders forum when selling researched bpos of capital parts) Originally by: Brock Nelson 4a. Why don't you just turn this into a business of producing carrier bpc pack? Because those businesses are common and I want to create an alternative with bigger profit margin (although bigger investment). 4b. Why don't you have the blueprint locked down at the low-sec station itself? I am pondering that option, it would make life easier so I may actually do that. 5. Who are your alts? If I posted my alts to the general public, I'm sure they'd get ganked from now on whatever they would carry in their freighters. Shareholders will be informed of all my alts.
Jackie Fisher Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2011.02.16 10:30:00 - [29] So if I understand you correctly you plan to produce carriers from BPCs produced from the purchased BPOs? That means you'll only produce c.1 carrier per BPO per month. Joint Venture Conglomerate
Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor	Posted - 2011.02.16 10:59:00 - [30] Edited by: Sealiah on 16/02/2011 11:04:02 Originally by: Jackie Fisher So if I understand you correctly you plan to produce carriers from BPCs produced from the purchased BPOs? That means you'll only produce c.1 carrier per BPO per month. That has come to my attention, I guess this will mean that I'll be forced to move the bpos to the final station, but I don't think it'll be a problem in any way. Somehow I misscalculated that producing a bpc takes as much time as producing the carrier it self. Taking this into consideration it'll be a must to move the bpos to the final production spot. EDIT - change implemented into first post.

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