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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 14:05:00 -
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Basically, CCP should hire the people who made EVE Bank and buy it out now that it ran out of business. Then they could get a fresh start and CCP could start giving EVE accounts worldwide access to it. They could dumb it down and make it slightly slower, but at least there would be a bank. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.02.16 14:11:00 -
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what about your wallet ? --
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Goldman Suchs
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Posted - 2011.02.16 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Basically, CCP should hire the people who made EVE Bank and buy it out now that it ran out of business. Then they could get a fresh start and CCP could start giving EVE accounts worldwide access to it. They could dumb it down and make it slightly slower, but at least there would be a bank.
No no no. It works like this:
òBank makes stupid, crazily risky bets with their* money. òBets fail òBank fails òBank is ætoo big to failÆ òBank gets taken over by CCP òTo pay for the massive private sector waste, CCP cut services (noobs now start with 0 isk and no ship) and charge for things that used to be free (500k isk per use of a jump gate, 1m isk to dock / undock etc etc) òBankers get tax break to æstimulate economyÆ
*turns out it was your money all along
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Two Shots
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Goldman Suchs
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Basically, CCP should hire the people who made EVE Bank and buy it out now that it ran out of business. Then they could get a fresh start and CCP could start giving EVE accounts worldwide access to it. They could dumb it down and make it slightly slower, but at least there would be a bank.
No. It works like this:
1) Bank makes bets with people's money, 2) Bets fail, 3)Bank fails, 4) Bank is ætoo big to failÆ, 5) Bank gets taken over by CCP, 6) (THE STUPID PART) To pay for the massive private sector waste, CCP cut services (noobs now start with 0 isk and no ship) and charge for things that used to be free (500k isk per use of a jump gate, 1m isk to dock / undock etc etc), 7) Bankers get tax break to æstimulate economyÆ
*Turns out it was your money all along.
Well Maybe you could stop being such a troll and let people show off their ideas. I wasn't saying to start making people have to pay for everything. You are just dumb. Everytime a new character joins the game, 5,000 ISK gets injected into the economy, and everytime somebody completes a mission, they get morre money, and insurance always pays you more than it costs. So ISK is always being injected into the economy. My idea is that you put some money in that bank, and then CCP loans it to other people, who have to pay them back as well as an interest charge. And to give the bank a quick-start: They just add some more money to start it off. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
Electus Ereptor
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Posted - 2011.02.16 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari
Originally by: Goldman Suchs
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Basically, CCP should hire the people who made EVE Bank and buy it out now that it ran out of business. Then they could get a fresh start and CCP could start giving EVE accounts worldwide access to it. They could dumb it down and make it slightly slower, but at least there would be a bank.
No. It works like this:
1) Bank makes bets with people's money, 2) Bets fail, 3)Bank fails, 4) Bank is ætoo big to failÆ, 5) Bank gets taken over by CCP, 6) (THE STUPID PART) To pay for the massive private sector waste, CCP cut services (noobs now start with 0 isk and no ship) and charge for things that used to be free (500k isk per use of a jump gate, 1m isk to dock / undock etc etc), 7) Bankers get tax break to æstimulate economyÆ
*Turns out it was your money all along.
Well Maybe you could stop being such a troll and let people show off their ideas. I wasn't saying to start making people have to pay for everything. You are just dumb. Everytime a new character joins the game, 5,000 ISK gets injected into the economy, and everytime somebody completes a mission, they get morre money, and insurance always pays you more than it costs. So ISK is always being injected into the economy. My idea is that you put some money in that bank, and then CCP loans it to other people, who have to pay them back as well as an interest charge. And to give the bank a quick-start: They just add some more money to start it off.
He was using sarcasm. Also your idea is both counter-productive and impossible to achieve for 2 reasons. 1. You wouldn't be able to scam the CCP bank. 2. CCP wouldn't implement something like that that wasn't player-run.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.02.16 15:15:00 -
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yes but for what reason?
I put in 50bil and get interest on it , this means more isk is put into the system with no way of loosing isk,
as it is player run ponsi scams, I mean banks, can take money of people and do with them what they want.
ccp need not to do anything at all
please explain why you think it is a good idea --
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GreasyCarl Semah
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Posted - 2011.02.16 15:58:00 -
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CCP could easily make a bank and then control the money supply by selling AAA credit bonds to players. Based on the return available to players from other players, I would say the scam-proof return should be around 2-3%. This would take trillions out of the economy. They may already have something else to withdraw money from the game but I am unaware of it.
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Lando Antilles
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Posted - 2011.02.16 16:23:00 -
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I don't get why CCP would be interested in doing this.
This is their game that people pay to PLAY. Why would CCP inject more ISK into the money supply (therefore devaluing all other currency) without implementing a new time-sink mechanic for people to play with?
They could add such a ISK faucet if they added more sinks, sure. But why? To take currency out of circulation and drive up prices? I guess.
But i'm no economist.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.16 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: GreasyCarl Semah CCP could easily make a bank and then control the money supply by selling AAA credit bonds to players. Based on the return available to players from other players, I would say the scam-proof return should be around 2-3%. This would take trillions out of the economy. They may already have something else to withdraw money from the game but I am unaware of it.
Why would they do this when your wallet acts as a 0% bank account right now?
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GreasyCarl Semah
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Posted - 2011.02.16 16:59:00 -
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They would do it as a way to control the money supply. But in reality they probably don't need to do anything like that, as there are other ways to accomplish the same thing. Such a secure bank would offer one more role playing aspect to the game though.
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Lando Antilles
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:05:00 -
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Follow up thought... If they wanted to take money out of circulation and make a new time sink (while improving market infrastruction) they could make a working stock exchange:
CCP makes NPC corp shares purchaseable. Then they could track NPC purchases (skills, BPO, trade goods, etc.) at corp stations as an indicator of company performance, and issue dividends based on that. This would be an ISK faucet and time sink. They could even add docking/jump fees as a ISK sink to prevent inflation. That could be implemented as an added feature and is to CCP's interest (reducing money supply)
Whoah.. i guess this is more of an Assembly Hall thing.
PS.. the market improvements necessary for trading these shares could be applied to player corp shares as well. Thereby putting Block out of a job and making the question of his audit moot.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:09:00 -
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No, it's my bank, my bank. Grrr. /runs off and buries it in the backyard.
Not in the Exchange, don't invest! |
Goldman Suchs
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:10:00 -
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[WHOOSH]
Hear that Amaroq? That was my words going over your head.
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jittaalt
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:18:00 -
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A 10 year CCP-bond without buy back would work as a isk sink. Would decrease the money supply for some time but not for too long.
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NinjaSpud
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Goldman Suchs [WHOOSH]
Hear that Amaroq? That was my words going over your head.
ROFLMAO
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Magnu Stormhawk
Stormhawk Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Basically, CCP should hire the people who made EVE Bank and buy it out now that it ran out of business. Then they could get a fresh start and CCP could start giving EVE accounts worldwide access to it. They could dumb it down and make it slightly slower, but at least there would be a bank.
Down with the Sandbox!
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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:36:00 -
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I have an idea! How about we solve this non-problem through inaction?
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EBANK SencneS
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:51:00 -
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CCP can have EBANK! why not right, they already have billions of it's ISK locked up in banned accounts :)
Largest current holder of funds in EBANK is CCP after all. SencneS Board of Directors EBANK |
Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Amaroq Dricaldari on 16/02/2011 17:56:07 Bzzd. Syntax Error >>>
Because there were not enough constructive comments, I shall now pay a member of the CCP Staff exactly 2,000,000 ISK to close this thread. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
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Letrange
Minmatar Red Horizon Inc R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.02.16 18:18:00 -
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So basically what you are saying is you want someone held accountable when you make a bad decision... wimp.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:51:00 -
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No. Projects Blog |
egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hexxx No.
all it feels like nowadays is you only post to advertise your blog
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Matalino
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: GreasyCarl Semah They would do it as a way to control the money supply. But in reality they probably don't need to do anything like that, as there are other ways to accomplish the same thing. Such a secure bank would offer one more role playing aspect to the game though.
They need to take ISK out of the system, not add more to it. Loaning out ISK and paying interest to investors would add ISK to the system. Holding on to ISK for players in another account will not remove it from the system. The net result of CCP run bank would be a massive ISK facet. It is not going to happen.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:04:00 -
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BZZT. SYNTAX ERROR! BZZT.
>>>
Print: "Why are people letting this thread continue? A CCP Dev has to come in right now and lock this thread. I will pay them 10 Million ISK to do it."
Why are peop-
BZZT. BZZT. BZZT. FATAL SYSTEM ERROR! INITIATING Blue_Screen_of_Death PROGRAM. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires.
Yeah, like I'm going to follow some quitter to the land of lollipops and butterflies. And just what do you as an industrialist manufacture? Vases for flowers?, stuffed animals?
And as a paid-killer mercenary you're creating peace? You sound like a bogus religious nut looking for suckers to fleece.
EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM. |
Grimhowl
Heroes of NewEden
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:09:00 -
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=/ Who let the roleplayer in here? I will pay CCP 5 isk to warn this guy to keep it in the RP sub-forum. I don't want the world, I just want your half. |
Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: K'uata Sayus
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires.
Yeah, like I'm going to follow some quitter to the land of lollipops and butterflies. And just what do you as an industrialist manufacture? Vases for flowers, stuffed animals? And as a paid-killer mercenary you're creating peace? You sound like a bogus religious nut looking for suckers to fleece.
It is an assasin that kills important people for money. I just fight for money. And by Peace and Prosperity, I mean get the four empires to stop fighting. My first move is to overthrow the Amarr Empire and replace the government with a better one. ANd I will do it through ALOT of awesome ships, and ALOT of big guns (and Cruise Missiles and Doomsday Devices). -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
GreasyCarl Semah
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino
Originally by: GreasyCarl Semah They would do it as a way to control the money supply. But in reality they probably don't need to do anything like that, as there are other ways to accomplish the same thing. Such a secure bank would offer one more role playing aspect to the game though.
They need to take ISK out of the system, not add more to it. Loaning out ISK and paying interest to investors would add ISK to the system. Holding on to ISK for players in another account will not remove it from the system. The net result of CCP run bank would be a massive ISK facet. It is not going to happen.
I never said anything about loaning anyone anything. I also never said they should try to have anyone invest in anything. All I said was the bank could sell bonds for a minimal return. That removes money from the economy discourages inflation. |
Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Grimhowl =/ Who let the roleplayer in here? I will pay CCP 5 isk to warn this guy to keep it in the RP sub-forum.
Also, that is just my signature. |
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