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Yxalitis	Posted - 2011.02.17 00:13:00 - [1] Edited by: Yxalitis on 17/02/2011 00:14:50 Edited by: Yxalitis on 17/02/2011 00:14:11 What IS the go with the EVE online community. These are the people who proudly refer to the insane learning curve, the extreme difficulty of mastering the games mechanics, and how l33t players have to be to get ahead. The game avoids the "WOW" crowd of annoying 12 year olds whose toons have more numbers then letters in their names. The game attracts, reasonable, intelligent players...so why are there so many @rseholes on the forums? Battleclinic fits are voted down as idiots rush to prove themselves superior in Eve-fu, even if they fail (minus 1, you need a target painter on that solo SB fit). Dare to mention anything slightly controversial, and the haters swarm in firing off stupid comments about delicious tears...what does that even mean? That you delight in causing other people to get upset...really? Are you that shallow? Eve is a game, games are about fun, if people want to play a game in a way they find fun, then that is the only criteria upon which we can judge them. There is no wrong way to play Eve..no, there isn't, as long as the player is happy doing what he does, then that is the ONLY justification for what he does. (except botting and other things against the EULA). In fact, watch the replies to this post...count how many cheap shots are fired off by players seeking to gain of sort of forum-cred... Why can't we all just get along...and shoot each other IN game only? I don't believe in signatures, not even really cool ones like "This signature intentionaly left blank"
captain skinback	Posted - 2011.02.17 00:16:00 - [2] because the forums dont have the insane learning curve that the game does? maybe they should make you do some crazy complicated puzzle or some impossible to figure out captcha before they let you post
Eyup Mi'duck	Posted - 2011.02.17 00:17:00 - [3] Eve is just a game, but one that sucks you in and people take it very seriously. Hence emotions run high, and others like to bait in these circumstances. You get used to it after a while, just roll with it.
Jill Xelitras Xeltec services	Posted - 2011.02.17 00:17:00 - [4] It's not EVE ... it's the world Jill.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2011.02.17 00:24:00 - [5] Hollow objects make the most noise. Sincerely, Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Alotta Baggage Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail	Posted - 2011.02.17 00:27:00 - [6] Edited by: Alotta Baggage on 17/02/2011 00:27:46 The forums are the cesspool of Eve, welcome edit: you put the guy's head there to make it look like he has horns on purpose? Originally by:* Magnus Andronicus ur character looks like a f***ing clown dude.
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2011.02.17 00:30:00 - [7] Originally by: Yxalitis Why can't we all just get along...and shoot each other IN game only? Because everybody knows that stuff that happens in-game only doesn't really matter.
Elvira WasARedHead	Posted - 2011.02.17 00:36:00 - [8] Edited by: Elvira WasARedHead on 17/02/2011 00:36:33 I lasted literally 2 months in WoW and decided never to play on-line ever again. So I was reluctant to download a "cruel" and pvp-oriented game like eve, and had to be talked into to. That was 2 years ago. Difference? WoW tried to make it impossible for people to hurt each other, thus the people in my guild were totally random people with entirely random degrees of intelligence and personality. The people who can-flip, grief, gank, and extract "tears" in eve, also self-segregate themselves into corps that are dedicated to these efforts. And thus they don't join mine :) And if they do join, they soon reveal themselves by shooting someone randomly or trying to steal from the corp or something of that nature. And then they are out. Eve's over-all difficulty and complexity are just a nice bonus on top of that. I'm not really a forums person. I'll probably get off them in a couple of weeks.
Khamelean	Posted - 2011.02.17 00:55:00 - [9] First Rule of the Internet: Public forum + anonimity = asshat
Olleybear Minmatar I R' Carebear	Posted - 2011.02.17 01:08:00 - [10] Originally by: Khamelean First Rule of the Internet: Public forum + anonimity = asshat That right there is correct. The lack of consequences for ones actions is what causes a lot of it. I will be majorly disappointed if the new forums dont have a block button like the game does. And by disappointed, I mean angery enough to want to find a way to the Dev systsems ( Jove Space ) and start shooting the station the Devs undock from. We should be free to block whomever we wish and never have to see another vile post from ignorant troll posters again. Without an audience, the trolls have zero reason to post. The forums will then have a chance to become a bit more civil, perhaps even adult like.
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.02.17 01:15:00 - [11] Normal person + Anonymity + Audience = Total ****wad Welcome to the Internet, enjoy your stay.
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.02.17 01:22:00 - [12] GTFO and cry moar noob. ---
Syphon Lodian Gallente	Posted - 2011.02.17 04:41:00 - [13] I've found that the really aggressive capsuleers in EVE, are quite sensitive, aka the "cry moar; mm tears" etc. pilots. In fact, these clones are so sensitive and prone to massive fits of hysteria and drama, that their tears are far too concentrated to be used for general consumption. The tears are so pure, and rich, that they must be handled within a vial, where said vial must be encased in an armor plated capsule interlaced with morphite. A lot must be said about this finding, as most judge a capsuleer's worth by their tear concentrate. If it is extremely potent, then the capsuleer is a very sensitive carebear in disguise, usually hiding behind a blob alliance so their fragility is not exposed to other capsuleers. Some deploy thinly veiled countermeasures by accusing others of being carebears, but this just clearly indicates the false-capsuleer has a large supply of densely concentrated tears on the verge of being released. It's best to just avoid them altogether. As they're too volatile, and said tears are mostly not worth it. The tears in their unrefined forms are very dangerous, and carry with it a lot of baggage. Enjoy what you enjoy doing and that's that I spose.
Toovhon	Posted - 2011.02.17 05:02:00 - [14] Welcome to Eve and life in general. Their are lame people in abundance, so learn to ignore them and set an example by your own behaviour. Because there is no changing jerks. That's kinda the point - they want to be jerks. All you can do is deny them the sad and really rather pathetic glee they gain from posting your negative comments made to them. Just don't interact with them if possible, and minimise your involvement or response when they attack you in-game (note - I refer to people who use PvP to troll, not real pirates). The tragedy is all to many people waste their time feeding the trolls, when the best possible and most satisfying comeback is to show them how inconsequential they really are, by simply ignoring them :-) -- Frog blast the vent core!
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.02.17 05:07:00 - [15] It's not just the forums, this guy was pretty mean considering... ---
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.02.17 05:16:00 - [16] It's not just the forums, ---
DeMichael Crimson Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2011.02.17 06:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Toovhon Welcome to Eve and life in general. Their are lame people in abundance, so learn to ignore them and set an example by your own behaviour. Because there is no changing jerks. That's kinda the point - they want to be jerks. All you can do is deny them the sad and really rather pathetic glee they gain from posting your negative comments made to them. Just don't interact with them if possible, and minimise your involvement or response when they attack you in-game (note - I refer to people who use PvP to troll, not real pirates). The tragedy is all to many people waste their time feeding the trolls, when the best possible and most satisfying comeback is to show them how inconsequential they really are, by simply ignoring them :-) This, but first I like to call em on it and then ignore them. DMC, Author of the Faction Standing Repair Plan.
Blacksquirrel	Posted - 2011.02.17 06:39:00 - [18] Trying the "rift" beta...trust me EVE'ers got nothing on the former WOW community that plague that place. Oh lord it's horrible. Yeah I find the social autism annoying too from time to time yet never under estimate mature players that can carry on at least some form of intellectual conversation.
Chuckles McLaughy	Posted - 2011.02.17 06:47:00 - [19] Originally by: Toovhon Welcome to Eve and life in general. Their are lame people in abundance, so learn to ignore them and set an example by your own behaviour. Because there is no changing jerks. That's kinda the point - they want to be jerks. All you can do is deny them the sad and really rather pathetic glee they gain from posting your negative comments made to them. Just don't interact with them if possible, and minimise your involvement or response when they attack you in-game (note - I refer to people who use PvP to troll, not real pirates). The tragedy is all to many people waste their time feeding the trolls, when the best possible and most satisfying comeback is to show them how inconsequential they really are, by simply ignoring them :-) Your tears and emorage are so thinly veiled though, it is a shame that you actually buy into your own self delusions.
DeMichael Crimson Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2011.02.17 06:53:00 - [20] Originally by: Chuckles McLaughy Originally by: Toovhon Welcome to Eve and life in general. Their are lame people in abundance, so learn to ignore them and set an example by your own behaviour. Because there is no changing jerks. That's kinda the point - they want to be jerks. All you can do is deny them the sad and really rather pathetic glee they gain from posting your negative comments made to them. Just don't interact with them if possible, and minimise your involvement or response when they attack you in-game (note - I refer to people who use PvP to troll, not real pirates). The tragedy is all to many people waste their time feeding the trolls, when the best possible and most satisfying comeback is to show them how inconsequential they really are, by simply ignoring them :-) Your tears and emorage are so thinly veiled though, it is a shame that you actually buy into your own self delusions. Thanks for giving positive proof that you, as well as others, are indeed nothing more than trolls.
Chuckles McLaughy	Posted - 2011.02.17 06:54:00 - [21] Originally by: DeMichael Crimson Originally by: Chuckles McLaughy Originally by: Toovhon Welcome to Eve and life in general. Their are lame people in abundance, so learn to ignore them and set an example by your own behaviour. Because there is no changing jerks. That's kinda the point - they want to be jerks. All you can do is deny them the sad and really rather pathetic glee they gain from posting your negative comments made to them. Just don't interact with them if possible, and minimise your involvement or response when they attack you in-game (note - I refer to people who use PvP to troll, not real pirates). The tragedy is all to many people waste their time feeding the trolls, when the best possible and most satisfying comeback is to show them how inconsequential they really are, by simply ignoring them :-) Your tears and emorage are so thinly veiled though, it is a shame that you actually buy into your own self delusions. Thanks for giving positive proof that you, as well as others, are indeed nothing more than trolls. Of COURSE I am a troll. Didn't my name give that away?
Zuper Zpy	Posted - 2011.02.17 08:09:00 - [22] I think that the main reason you find nasty replies, particularly in this forum, is because this is the place people come to when they are burned out from playing. I think there is some pent up anger, frustration or just plain exhaustion. You will notice many posters here have actually stopped playing and only log on to keep skills going and be smart asses in forum. I'm not a psychologist so I can't give a fuller explanation sorry. I'm not a gynecologist either but I'm willing to have a look.
Peter XZ Gallente	Posted - 2011.02.17 08:16:00 - [23] Edited by: Peter XZ on 17/02/2011 08:16:52 Originally by: Yxalitis Edited by: Yxalitis on 17/02/2011 00:14:50 Edited by: Yxalitis on 17/02/2011 00:14:11 What IS the go with the EVE online community. These are the people who proudly refer to the insane learning curve, the extreme difficulty of mastering the games mechanics, and how l33t players have to be to get ahead. The game avoids the "WOW" crowd of annoying 12 year olds whose toons have more numbers then letters in their names. The game attracts, reasonable, intelligent players...so why are there so many @rseholes on the forums? Battleclinic fits are voted down as idiots rush to prove themselves superior in Eve-fu, even if they fail (minus 1, you need a target painter on that solo SB fit). Dare to mention anything slightly controversial, and the haters swarm in firing off stupid comments about delicious tears...what does that even mean? That you delight in causing other people to get upset...really? Are you that shallow? Eve is a game, games are about fun, if people want to play a game in a way they find fun, then that is the only criteria upon which we can judge them. There is no wrong way to play Eve..no, there isn't, as long as the player is happy doing what he does, then that is the ONLY justification for what he does. (except botting and other things against the EULA). In fact, watch the replies to this post...count how many cheap shots are fired off by players seeking to gain of sort of forum-cred... Why can't we all just get along...and shoot each other IN game only? We get this type of thread regularly, JUST DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY, AND YOU'LL GET USED TO IT AND ACTUALLY FIND IT QUITE FUNNY WHEN PPL BELITTLE YOU IN THE FORUMS, I'M SURE SOMEONE IS IN A RAGE READING THIS AND MOANING THAT I'M USING CAPS LOCK, THEY'LL PROBABLY POST THEIR RAGE ANY MOMENT NOW, AND I'LL LAUGH, COS PPL WHO GET ENRAGED BY BIG LETTERS ARE QUITE FUNNY Point is , you'll get used to it grasshopper Time Passes, Eternity Awaits, Jesus Saves, and no you can't take Eve with you.Hi to all my Eve Youtube friends, you kno who you are \o/ traditional500 channel
Alpheias Euphoria Released WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.02.17 08:22:00 - [24] What is it with the sudden appearance of ****ing hippies crowding the forums, talking about how we should be nice to each other?!
Zuper Zpy	Posted - 2011.02.17 08:28:00 - [25] Originally by: Alpheias What is it with the sudden appearance of ****ing hippies crowding the forums, talking about how we should be nice to each other?! Peace and Love man. Just mellow out,keep it cool and have a toke on this. hahhahha
Estel Arador	Posted - 2011.02.17 08:31:00 - [26] Edited by: Estel Arador on 17/02/2011 08:31:31 Poor manners? check Tosser? check Galore? check OP is absolutely right!
Zuper Zpy	Posted - 2011.02.17 08:39:00 - [27] Edited by: Zuper Zpy on 17/02/2011 08:39:43 Originally by: Estel Arador Edited by: Estel Arador on 17/02/2011 08:31:31 Poor manners? check Tosser? check Galore? check OP is absolutely right! Arcadetribe, a poolsite that I subscribe to, has a feature that dissallows none paying accounts from posting. It also has a reputation scoring system which flags people who are notorious trouble makers or antisocials. When a certain level is reached they are investigated and if it warrants it they are banned from posting. A good system or not? BTW I'm banned for life hahhaaha
My Postman	Posted - 2011.02.17 09:05:00 - [28] OP, this is a quite accurate sum up! As a long time forum dwellar i see lots of ppl ONLY giving negative comments, calling ppl names, quoting every single thread just for the point of it, never saying anything useful. Trolls, bad trolls. Once you spotted them, just have a look on eve-search, and read 5 of their quotes, and you know them all. And sometimes it¦s a good thing to know them, as you are now able to ignore their posts.
Signal11th	Posted - 2011.02.17 10:23:00 - [29] Unforunately with games like EVE/WOW the majority of people as a rule are fairly weak minded individuals who will always take the path of least resistance and easy cash. It's easy to slag someone off in a game or on a forum as there is never any punishment or comeback from usually whatever they say. All the people who will slag someone off in game usually when faced with the same choice in real life will usually say nothing or if they do say something in real life will be on their toes as soons as there is anything moody going on. When you call someone a ** on a forum what's the comeback ..nothing so it's easy to say.. When you call someone a ** in your local boozer the comeback is usually a glass in the face or a quick stint in the local A&E, so you don't do it. MMO game are sometimes a mirror of real life, You'll get the odd hardcase who can fight on his own and win but usually the weaker members will gang together to overpower a stronger opponent. Unfortunately society is filled with morons so forums and games and life in general will always suprise (or not suprise) you with how idiotic some people can be. V out
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2011.02.17 10:32:00 - [30] Edited by: Furb Killer on 17/02/2011 10:32:22 Quote: These are the people who proudly refer to the insane learning curve, the extreme difficulty of mastering the games mechanics, and how l33t players have to be to get ahead. Well there you got the first issue. Too many eve players think they are superior beings for playing a game, which is increased by spreading this myth that eve would have an insane learning curve (which is of course spread to boost their own egos). I cant compare it to WoW for example since I never played it, but the learning curve isnt anything steeper than that of an RTS. And most of the steepness does not come from the complexity of the game but the horrible UI, terrible tutorials and crap documentation. What is true is that the learning curve is long, simply because there are alot of things to do in eve (many of which are going to be iterated on in the future, honestly), but steep? Nah, nothing more than an average RTS. Quote: The game avoids the "WOW" crowd of annoying 12 year olds whose toons have more numbers then letters in their names. Here we nicely continue with your issue, you think you are superior to others because you are older? Quote: The game attracts, reasonable, intelligent players...so why are there so many @rseholes on the forums? How did you get this idea? A game that specifically allows grieving, scamming, thiefs, etc and you seriously ask the question why the forums arent a nice friendly and cozy place? Quote: That you delight in causing other people to get upset...really? Are you that shallow? See previous point, eve is advertised as a heaven for people who mainly enjoy making sure other people dont enjoy it, and you are surprised that also happens on the forums?
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2011.02.17 11:18:00 - [31] I made it a rule long ago to never get along with anyone using words like 'tosser'. Delenda est achura.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.02.17 11:20:00 - [32] --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Brannor McThife Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.17 11:22:00 - [33] What you fail to understand, is that what people do in EvE (Scam, gank, ninja, etc.) they would gladly do in real life, if they could get away with it in the way they do in EvE. EvE is like a mirror on the soul. People will deny it, and say, no, I'm not like that IRL...but the truth is, you would if you could. Real life has consequences, EvE is just pixels, so much easier to just act out your innermost desires where there are no "real" consequences. Disclaimer: This can be said of any online game, but more particularly of games involving PvP. Heaven help the universe if anyone ever manages to create EvE's pod technology... -G
Iceni	Posted - 2011.02.17 11:29:00 - [34] It's all a part of the 'mine is bigger than yours' mentality that features a lot in this game. If I ridicule your point of view and make you look small, it makes me look bigger in comparison. And no, I'm not showing you mine because you're obviously the sensitive type.
Illwill Bill Reign of Anarchy	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:01:00 - [35] Your doubt, it fuels me. Your hate, it drives me. The challenge ignites me. You make me fight harder! But yeah, some people take this way too seriously. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Revenge is a dish best served with auto-cannons.
Jupix Minmatar MuroBBS United	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:08:00 - [36] What I've always wanted for the forums here is a slashdot style mod/filtering system. Randomly award a bunch of people a few mod points, with which they can basically like and dislike a forum post. Then I can filter out everything but the highest-rated stuff. Unfortunately we will never have that. Instead, I believe the new forums will have just a "like" link for each post? I hope it will show the likes so that someone can write a Firefox extension to hide everything with less than 1 "point".
Dardoign	Posted - 2011.02.17 12:10:00 - [37] Originally by: Signal11th Unforunately with games like EVE/WOW the majority of people as a rule are fairly weak minded individuals who will always take the path of least resistance and easy cash. It's easy to slag someone off in a game or on a forum as there is never any punishment or comeback from usually whatever they say. All the people who will slag someone off in game usually when faced with the same choice in real life will usually say nothing or if they do say something in real life will be on their toes as soons as there is anything moody going on. When you call someone a ** on a forum what's the comeback ..nothing so it's easy to say.. When you call someone a ** in your local boozer the comeback is usually a glass in the face or a quick stint in the local A&E, so you don't do it. MMO game are sometimes a mirror of real life, You'll get the odd hardcase who can fight on his own and win but usually the weaker members will gang together to overpower a stronger opponent. Unfortunately society is filled with morons so forums and games and life in general will always suprise (or not suprise) you with how idiotic some people can be. V out Ah those were the days back in the UK. fond memories untill Thatchers Brittain. How's life in Millwall these days bud?
Gayllente Lance	Posted - 2011.02.17 16:59:00 - [38] wtf is a 'tosser'. i never heard that word in the normal world.
Hephaesteus Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:06:00 - [39] Originally by: Gayllente Lance wtf is a 'tosser'. i never heard that word in the normal world. British colloquial meaning a jerk-off
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:10:00 - [40] EVE has a well earned well earned reputation for being filled with ppl that get kicked out of other MMOs for stuff that is encouraged here lol
Ray Tucker	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:15:00 - [41] Eve forums need reputation and post count, otherwise it's like PVP with no killboards
Catori Fala Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Brannor McThife What you fail to understand, is that what people do in EvE (Scam, gank, ninja, etc.) they would gladly do in real life, if they could get away with it in the way they do in EvE. EvE is like a mirror on the soul. People will deny it, and say, no, I'm not like that IRL...but the truth is, you would if you could. Real life has consequences, EvE is just pixels, so much easier to just act out your innermost desires where there are no "real" consequences. Disclaimer: This can be said of any online game, but more particularly of games involving PvP. Heaven help the universe if anyone ever manages to create EvE's pod technology... -G This is such a trite and stupid generalisation. I used to find it hilarious sneaking up on my mates in Counter Strike, BF2, whatever and shooting them in the head, stabbing them in the face, dropping grenades on em...in EVE I'd happily blow up a somebody I knew if we happened to be in warring corps. Are you seriously suggesting that means I harbor deep and secret desires to murder them irl?
Tarasina	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:48:00 - [43] Edited by: Tarasina on 17/02/2011 17:49:14 Originally by: Ray Tucker Eve forums need reputation and post count, otherwise it's like PVP with no killboards Reputation will have no effect on posts, if it's tied to character name. Everyone uses forum alts (well, almost) so deleting that character, starting a new and KEEP TROLLING isn't exactly hard. With a clean slate as a bonus. this message is from a forum alt, not approved by your local authorities, yet
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Tarasina Originally by: Ray Tucker Eve forums need reputation and post count, otherwise it's like PVP with no killboards Reputation will have no effect on posts, if it's tied to character name. Everyone uses forum alts (well, almost) so deleting that character, starting a new and KEEP TROLLING isn't exactly hard. With a clean slate as a bonus. Yeah!! we need a REALID system... o wait thats WoW
Tarasina	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:50:00 - [45] Edited by: Tarasina on 17/02/2011 17:56:46 Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Originally by: Tarasina Originally by: Ray Tucker Eve forums need reputation and post count, otherwise it's like PVP with no killboards Reputation will have no effect on posts, if it's tied to character name. Everyone uses forum alts (well, almost) so deleting that character, starting a new and KEEP TROLLING isn't exactly hard. With a clean slate as a bonus. Yeah!! we need a REALID system... o wait thats WoW I don't want either What WOW-forums need is moderation and ppl getting banned. But I guess that would hurt the $$$$$ Activision/Blizz are making.
Lokaas	Posted - 2011.02.17 18:06:00 - [46] Simple explanation: Anonymity attracts losers. These are the people you have to side step in RL. Same with anything tied to the Web.
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.02.17 18:08:00 - [47] Originally by: Tarasina Edited by: Tarasina on 17/02/2011 17:56:46 Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Originally by: Tarasina Originally by: Ray Tucker Eve forums need reputation and post count, otherwise it's like PVP with no killboards Reputation will have no effect on posts, if it's tied to character name. Everyone uses forum alts (well, almost) so deleting that character, starting a new and KEEP TROLLING isn't exactly hard. With a clean slate as a bonus. Yeah!! we need a REALID system... o wait thats WoW I don't want either What WOW-forums need is moderation and ppl getting banned. But I guess that would hurt the $$$$$ Activision/Blizz are making. or they could do it like here... or how I remember it was here, where you get a forumban and can play the game still
Lokaas	Posted - 2011.02.17 18:11:00 - [48] Edited by: Lokaas on 17/02/2011 18:12:03 Edited by: Lokaas on 17/02/2011 18:11:10 Quote What you fail to understand, is that what people do in EvE (Scam, gank, ninja, etc.) they would gladly do in real life, if they could get away with it in the way they do in EvE. EvE is like a mirror on the soul. People will deny it, and say, no, I'm not like that IRL...but the truth is, you would if you could. Real life has consequences, EvE is just pixels, so much easier to just act out your innermost desires where there are no "real" consequences. Disclaimer: This can be said of any online game, but more particularly of games involving PvP. Heaven help the universe if anyone ever manages to create EvE's pod technology... Quote ----- BTW, I agree with this and said it many times myself. However, I was thinking that in reality you have to hide the bodies. That can be difficult to do sometimes. Maybe if CCP would force people to have to hide or dispose of bodies before CONCORD found them (even in null sec) most of your problems would be solved right there.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Sleeping Fury	Posted - 2011.02.17 18:17:00 - [49] Some people just aren't very nice on the internet, it's hardly exclusive to EVE. IMO this community is the best, so there ♥
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.02.17 18:26:00 - [50] Originally by: Grimpak http://api.gamepro.com/support/docs/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/internet-serious-business-cat.jpg That pic is mint. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Archbeholder	Posted - 2011.02.17 19:24:00 - [51] like developers like gamers
Roflus Prime	Posted - 2011.02.17 20:25:00 - [52] The behavior on the EVE forums is perfectly reasonable once you realize that it essentially functions as an EVE mini-game. The first thing you do is pick which skills to start training first: Tear Harvesting: Self-explanatory. Level V Bonus: Harvest non-existent tears of people making mild suggestions/requests. Flame-Baiting: Enrage your foes! Works well with Tear Harvesting. Level V Bonus: Thread Derailing. Apathy: Ability to not care, regardless of relevance or significance. Defensive skill. Level V Bonus: Flame-Bait reversal. E-peen flexing: Cut your opponent down with superior in-game knowledge. Best paired with Apathy. Level V Bonus: "It sound good on paper, but if you actually PLAYED THE GAME, you'd know it doesn't work like that". Once you have begun training the skills you have selected, you start combing through the forums. Each thread is an option mission with the opportunity to increase your standings and gain loyalty points by harvesting tears or enraging your foes without you yourself becoming enraged. Complaint/Suggestion threads are generally considered Level 1 difficulty and are a good place to start. Once you improve your standings high enough, you are allowed into the secret 'cool-kids' club and all is revealed. Loyalty points are actually worthless since there is pretty much no loyalty within the forums.
Anyura	Posted - 2011.02.17 20:43:00 - [53] Sorry OP. Compared to the evil creatures that make up the Heroes of Newerth community, EVE is a happy carebear land where everyone stops to say hello and give you a big hug. Seriously, that game is rapidly becoming unplayable due to its Asshat Quotient.
Skex Relbore Gallente Skexcorp	Posted - 2011.02.17 21:13:00 - [54] Originally by: Catori Fala Originally by: Brannor McThife What you fail to understand, is that what people do in EvE (Scam, gank, ninja, etc.) they would gladly do in real life, if they could get away with it in the way they do in EvE. EvE is like a mirror on the soul. People will deny it, and say, no, I'm not like that IRL...but the truth is, you would if you could. Real life has consequences, EvE is just pixels, so much easier to just act out your innermost desires where there are no "real" consequences. Disclaimer: This can be said of any online game, but more particularly of games involving PvP. Heaven help the universe if anyone ever manages to create EvE's pod technology... -G This is such a trite and stupid generalisation. I used to find it hilarious sneaking up on my mates in Counter Strike, BF2, whatever and shooting them in the head, stabbing them in the face, dropping grenades on em...in EVE I'd happily blow up a somebody I knew if we happened to be in warring corps. Are you seriously suggesting that means I harbor deep and secret desires to murder them irl? True that, I spent 6 some odd months in RVB many of the people that the Killboards call my Nemesis are my best friends in the game. In a way I think the Goons and TESTies have it figured out best. It's just a game have fun with it. If I'm trying to blow up your ship it's not personal, Hell if I ran into you in real life I'd probably buy you a beer and have a few laughs over stupid fits.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.17 21:22:00 - [55] To be honest, I have met both Eve and WoW players who are quite eloquent and articulate people. They are engineers, scientists, bankers and accountants. It is just sad that many choose to speak of the negatives rather than seeing past them and look ahead for the positives. I think most should adopt some positivity and look forward for the better. That is, unfortunately, something that the minority learn through experience. --------- Sent from my BlackBerry.
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.02.17 22:56:00 - [56] You must be new to the internet. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
Aeronwen Carys	Posted - 2011.02.17 23:46:00 - [57] Why do people assume that the forums are in any way representative of EVE players as a whole?
Turzyx Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.02.18 00:27:00 - [58] It's funny, actually, because I see more carebear tears, whining, insults and teenage angst in this game than I ever did when I played WoW. This was even before I joined TEST! EVE players need to stop thinking they are so damn elite. This game doesn't require a mathematics degree or any kind of twitch reflexes, it's just one big database with time delayed actions. When people stop taking themselves so seriously and stop thinking they are better human beings than other gamers, there will be change.
Cambarus Thunderfury Blessed Blade of the Windseeker	Posted - 2011.02.18 01:39:00 - [59] Originally by: Brannor McThife What you fail to understand, is that what people do in EvE (Scam, gank, ninja, etc.) they would gladly do in real life, if they could get away with it in the way they do in EvE. EvE is like a mirror on the soul. People will deny it, and say, no, I'm not like that IRL...but the truth is, you would if you could. The problem with that analogy is that it only works if you truly believe eve to be a serious thing, rather than, you know, a video game. I have no problem killing, stealing, manipulating, scamming or doing anything else of that sort in eve because at the end of the day it is, in fact, just a game. No matter what someone does to you, the worst thing you can say about them is that they kicked your ass at a video game, and the sooner you realize this the sooner you can stop stressing out about crap that happens in eve. Speaking from experience, you'll enjoy the game much more.
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.02.18 01:47:00 - [60] Edited by: Barakkus on 18/02/2011 01:47:26 Originally by: Turzyx It's funny, actually, because I see more carebear tears, whining, insults and teenage angst in this game than I ever did when I played WoW. This was even before I joined TEST! I'm sorry, I played WoW (Onyxia server) for a year and a half and was quite active on the forums. EVE pales in comparison to the amount of vitriol of the playerbase in WoW. I was shocked at the difference when I started playing EVE and EQ2 again in the community. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.02.18 01:56:00 - [61] Originally by: Barakkus I'm sorry, I played WoW (Onyxia server) for a year and a half and was quite active on the forums. EVE pales in comparison to the amount of vitriol of the playerbase in WoW Obligatory. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Tarasina	Posted - 2011.02.18 03:02:00 - [62] Edited by: Tarasina on 18/02/2011 03:03:58 Originally by: Khamelean First Rule of the Internet: Public forum + anonimity = asshat Heres a nice pic that explains it. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/
JC Anderson Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.02.18 03:22:00 - [63] Edited by: JC Anderson on 18/02/2011 03:24:34 Originally by: captain skinback because the forums dont have the insane learning curve that the game does? maybe they should make you do some crazy complicated puzzle or some impossible to figure out captcha before they let you post LOL that would be awesome. Originally by: Tippia Obligatory. Classic.
My Postman	Posted - 2011.02.18 13:30:00 - [64] Originally by: Roflus Prime The behavior on the EVE forums is perfectly reasonable once you realize that it essentially functions as an EVE mini-game. The first thing you do is pick which skills to start training first: Tear Harvesting: Self-explanatory. Level V Bonus: Harvest non-existent tears of people making mild suggestions/requests. Flame-Baiting: Enrage your foes! Works well with Tear Harvesting. Level V Bonus: Thread Derailing. Apathy: Ability to not care, regardless of relevance or significance. Defensive skill. Level V Bonus: Flame-Bait reversal. E-peen flexing: Cut your opponent down with superior in-game knowledge. Best paired with Apathy. Level V Bonus: "It sound good on paper, but if you actually PLAYED THE GAME, you'd know it doesn't work like that". Once you have begun training the skills you have selected, you start combing through the forums. Each thread is an option mission with the opportunity to increase your standings and gain loyalty points by harvesting tears or enraging your foes without you yourself becoming enraged. Complaint/Suggestion threads are generally considered Level 1 difficulty and are a good place to start. Once you improve your standings high enough, you are allowed into the secret 'cool-kids' club and all is revealed. Loyalty points are actually worthless since there is pretty much no loyalty within the forums. When i said in my first post that the OP sums it up quite accurate, i have to admit: BEST.POAST.EVAR
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.02.18 15:18:00 - [65] Originally by: Tippia Obligatory. I love that guy. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
okst666	Posted - 2011.02.18 15:45:00 - [66] Originally by: captain skinback because the forums dont have the insane learning curve that the game does? maybe they should make you do some crazy complicated puzzle or some impossible to figure out captcha before they let you post
Yxalitis	Posted - 2011.03.01 02:12:00 - [67] Originally by: okst666 Originally by: captain skinback because the forums dont have the insane learning curve that the game does? maybe they should make you do some crazy complicated puzzle or some impossible to figure out captcha before they let you post Can't solve that, I need the boundaries, otherwise you'll just get another function I don't believe in signatures, not even really cool ones like "This signature intentionaly left blank"
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.03.01 02:22:00 - [68] Originally by: Mag's Originally by: Tippia Obligatory. I love that guy. I swear he was my raid leader on like 4 servers ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass"
Ascendic Lyonesse. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.03.01 02:29:00 - [69] Originally by: Jill Xelitras It's not EVE ... it's the world Jill. Truth. Anyone who thinks its the EVE community I suggest you go read some music videos comments on youtube.
sableye principle of motion	Posted - 2011.03.01 02:42:00 - [70] the people you describe are one of reaosns I read the forum and one of things that keeps me paying each month, local chat in game is similar just gotta whip up enough peopl efrom station afk. ----------------------------------------- View The North Star! In All Its Glory!!
Sullen Skoung	Posted - 2011.03.01 03:14:00 - [71] Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 01/03/2011 03:16:14 I quote John Gabriel's "Greater Internet **wad Theory" Quote: John Gabriel's "Greater Internet wad Theory" was posted in the Penny Arcade strip published March 19, 2004. It regards unsociable tendencies exhibited by gamers while playing online multiplayer games. Mike Krahulik suggests that, given both anonymity and an audience, an otherwise regular person can become a "total wad," i.e., a very disagreeable person. New York University adjunct professor Clay Shirky, who studies social and economic effects of Internet technologies, explains: "ThereÆs a large crowd and you can act out in front of it without paying any personal price to your reputation,ö which "creates conditions most likely to draw out the typical Internet userÆs worst impulses." In an Advocate article about online homophobia, this theory was used to account for behavior on online forums where one can remain anonymous in front of an audience: for instance, posting comments on popular YouTube videos Originally by:** sableye the people you describe are one of reaosns I read the forum and one of things that keeps me paying each month, local chat in game is similar just gotta whip up enough peopl efrom station afk. Yea I stay away from local... I was talkin to ppl in local, not even smack talking an a douche wardecced my corp lol

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