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Captain Die Suicide by Cop	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:06:00 - [1] Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. Is that enough to avoid being probed out, or does it require more finesse? --- DIE - EVE-O's SADOMASICHIST I WHO HAVE NOTHING!
TimMc Brutal Deliverance Gypsy Band	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:08:00 - [2] With 130 sig you only need 121 sensor strength to be unprobable.
Drexit	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:14:00 - [3] Did you try adding the sensor strength implants? talon, jackal, spur, etc
Captain Die Suicide by Cop	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:21:00 - [4] Originally by: Drexit Did you try adding the sensor strength implants? talon, jackal, spur, etc Looks like I'll need HQ Jackal's to rid myself of one module and still be above 121 sensor. Low quality Jackal/ladar back up don't seem to be working well. --- DIE - EVE-O's SADOMASICHIST I WHO HAVE NOTHING!
Drexit	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:24:00 - [5] good news is they are relatively cheap
Dacril	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Captain Die Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. Is that enough to avoid being probed out, or does it require more finesse? You need a ratio of 1.08 to be 100% unprobable. That means with 130 sig you need 130*1.08= 140.4 sensor strength. However, keep in mind that 130/136= 0.95 ratio is still very, very high. A pilot with perfect skills will not find you; he'd still need implants (expansive ones). Modules will help you a lot (eccm), or implants even. For that matter, I suggest the Skirmish Warfare Mindlink (it doesn't stack with anything, unlike the Information Warfare Mindlink).
Captain Die Suicide by Cop	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:43:00 - [7] Originally by: Dacril Originally by: Captain Die Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. Is that enough to avoid being probed out, or does it require more finesse? You need a ratio of 1.08 to be 100% unprobable. That means with 130 sig you need 1301.08= 140.4 sensor strength. However, keep in mind that 130/136= 0.95 ratio is still very, very high. A pilot with perfect skills will not find you; he'd still need implants (expansive ones). Modules will help you a lot (eccm), or implants even. For that matter, I suggest the Skirmish Warfare Mindlink* (it doesn't stack with anything, unlike the Information Warfare Mindlink). The Nomad Set? --- DIE - EVE-O's SADOMASICHIST I WHO HAVE NOTHING!
Dacril	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:43:00 - [8] Originally by: TimMc With 130 sig you only need 121 sensor strength to be unprobable. That is incorrect. You divided 130 by 1.08, whereas you should have multiplied it. Hence he needs 130*1.08= 140.4 sensor strength, not 121.
Cygnus Zhada Viziam	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:43:00 - [9] Edited by: Cygnus Zhada on 18/02/2011 17:45:54 Originally by: TimMc With 130 sig you only need 121 sensor strength to be unprobable. Afaik it's the other way round and your sensor str needs to be more than your radius. Also to the OP; don't forget to give yourself your own skirmish sig radius bonus :P --- Stultorum infinitus est numerus.
Dacril	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:45:00 - [10] Originally by: Captain Die Originally by: Dacril Originally by: Captain Die Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. Is that enough to avoid being probed out, or does it require more finesse? You need a ratio of 1.08 to be 100% unprobable. That means with 130 sig you need 1301.08= 140.4 sensor strength. However, keep in mind that 130/136= 0.95 ratio is still very, very high. A pilot with perfect skills will not find you; he'd still need implants (expansive ones). Modules will help you a lot (eccm), or implants even. For that matter, I suggest the Skirmish Warfare Mindlink* (it doesn't stack with anything, unlike the Information Warfare Mindlink). The Nomad Set? No, the Skirmish Warfare Mindlink is an implant on its own. It is a little skill-intensive though. You might not have what it takes yet. Otherwise, you could try to use more than one ganglink on your loki (the one that reduces sig radius, plus the one that adds sensor strength).
Captain Die Suicide by Cop	Posted - 2011.02.18 17:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Dacril Originally by: Captain Die Originally by: Dacril Originally by: Captain Die Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. Is that enough to avoid being probed out, or does it require more finesse? You need a ratio of 1.08 to be 100% unprobable. That means with 130 sig you need 1301.08= 140.4 sensor strength. However, keep in mind that 130/136= 0.95 ratio is still very, very high. A pilot with perfect skills will not find you; he'd still need implants (expansive ones). Modules will help you a lot (eccm), or implants even. For that matter, I suggest the Skirmish Warfare Mindlink* (it doesn't stack with anything, unlike the Information Warfare Mindlink). The Nomad Set? No, the Skirmish Warfare Mindlink is an implant on its own. It is a little skill-intensive though. You might not have what it takes yet. Otherwise, you could try to use more than one ganglink on your loki (the one that reduces sig radius, plus the one that adds sensor strength). Heh, thank you. Didn't even register with me that Mindlink's were items. I'm out of it and thnk your talking code. Thank you for the info though. --- DIE - EVE-O's SADOMASICHIST I WHO HAVE NOTHING!
Mona X Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.02.18 19:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Captain Die Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. This is in fleet? Join Eve-Online, meet interesting people, grief them.
Cygnus Zhada Viziam	Posted - 2011.02.18 19:45:00 - [13] Originally by: Mona X Originally by: Captain Die Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. This is in fleet? 130 sig shows he forgot to apply his own skirmish bonuses :) --- Stultorum infinitus est numerus.
Captain Die Suicide by Cop	Posted - 2011.02.18 20:00:00 - [14] Edited by: Captain Die on 18/02/2011 20:05:57 Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Originally by: Mona X Originally by: Captain Die Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. This is in fleet? 130 sig shows he forgot to apply his own skirmish bonuses :) Q: Can I simulate effects of electronic warfare or remote boosting in EFT? A: Setups window has Projected Effects button which opens list of external effects affecting your setup. You can drag there any module or drone which has some kind of remote effect eighter from fitting panel or from another setups window. In latter case all ship and skill bonuses will also apply. Halp? More specific I can't figure out how to get the warfare links to become a projected effect. --- DIE - EVE-O's SADOMASICHIST I WHO HAVE NOTHING!
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.18 20:04:00 - [15] Originally by: Captain Die Originally by: Dacril Originally by: Captain Die Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. Is that enough to avoid being probed out, or does it require more finesse? You need a ratio of 1.08 to be 100% unprobable. That means with 130 sig you need 1301.08= 140.4 sensor strength. However, keep in mind that 130/136= 0.95 ratio is still very, very high. A pilot with perfect skills will not find you; he'd still need implants (expansive ones). Modules will help you a lot (eccm), or implants even. For that matter, I suggest the Skirmish Warfare Mindlink* (it doesn't stack with anything, unlike the Information Warfare Mindlink). The Nomad Set? Nope the Nomad only boosts your agility for scanning you need the Virtue set. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Drexit	Posted - 2011.02.18 20:11:00 - [16] 1) type in "skirmish" into the items window 2) click "projected effects" at the bottom of your ship window 3) drag "Skirmish Warfare Mindlink" into the projected effects window 4) Right click "Squad Commander" in the mid right of your ship window 5) > Bonuses From Ship 6) > Click your unprobable loki 7) See your stats change
Cygnus Zhada Viziam	Posted - 2011.02.19 07:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Captain Die Edited by: Captain Die on 18/02/2011 20:05:57 Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Originally by: Mona X Originally by: Captain Die Any fit I work out with the Warfare Processor seems to end up 130 sig and 136 sensor strength. This is in fleet? 130 sig shows he forgot to apply his own skirmish bonuses :) Q: Can I simulate effects of electronic warfare or remote boosting in EFT? A: Setups window has Projected Effects button which opens list of external effects affecting your setup. You can drag there any module or drone which has some kind of remote effect eighter from fitting panel or from another setups window. In latter case all ship and skill bonuses will also apply. Halp? More specific I can't figure out how to get the warfare links to become a projected effect. Don't use it as a projected effect, on the right side of the ship window in EFT you see the fleet/wing/squad commander section and it's empty atm. simply rclick the squad commander link and set it to bonuses from ship. You can now also, with your gang-link loki window open, open ANOTHER ship and by doing the same thing again see what effect your bonuses have on it. --- Stultorum infinitus est numerus.
Evil Aye	Posted - 2011.02.19 13:32:00 - [18] So with a sig radius of 93.4 would a sensor strength of 86.481 be required. 93.4 / 1.08 This is after applying all level 5's with the current setup (Skirmish warfare mods + Skirmish Mindlink).
Cygnus Zhada Viziam	Posted - 2011.02.19 13:44:00 - [19] It's the other way round. sensor str needs to be more than sig radius. --- Stultorum infinitus est numerus.
Straight Edged	Posted - 2011.02.19 14:12:00 - [20] ^ false Its okay for sig rad to be more then sensor str, but not by more then 8% IE 108 sig rad 100 sens str is unprobeable. scale it And i still prefer tengu. It is almost impossible to fit a 5th ganglink while cloak-unprobeable-interdiction-agile fit, while on the other hand, tengu can fit 5 easily while doing this (and 6 without)
Gore Merchant	Posted - 2011.02.19 14:42:00 - [21] I must be doing something terribly wrong then. I can barely fit three ganglinks with 4 co-procs. (All level 5's too)
Cygnus Zhada Viziam	Posted - 2011.02.19 15:00:00 - [22] Originally by: Gore Merchant I must be doing something terribly wrong then. I can barely fit three ganglinks with 4 co-procs. (All level 5's too) [Loki, Gang links] 'Deuce' Co-Processor I 'Deuce' Co-Processor I 'Deuce' Co-Processor I 'Deuce' Co-Processor I Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I Command Processor I Command Processor I Command Processor I Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers Skirmish Warfare Link - Evasive Maneuvers Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid Deployment Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing [empty high slot] Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Loki Defensive - Warfare Processor Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Loki Engineering - Supplemental Coolant Injector Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier --- Stultorum infinitus est numerus.
Evil Aye	Posted - 2011.02.19 15:10:00 - [23] Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Originally by: Gore Merchant I must be doing something terribly wrong then. I can barely fit three ganglinks with 4 co-procs. (All level 5's too) [Loki, Gang links] 'Deuce' Co-Processor I 'Deuce' Co-Processor I 'Deuce' Co-Processor I 'Deuce' Co-Processor I Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I Command Processor I Command Processor I Command Processor I Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers Skirmish Warfare Link - Evasive Maneuvers Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid Deployment Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing [empty high slot] Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Loki Defensive - Warfare Processor Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Loki Engineering - Supplemental Coolant Injector Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier /facepalm. I forgot I had a n expanded probe launcher on there :P
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.02.19 15:18:00 - [24] The formula is SigRad / SensorStr < 1.08. àor SensorStr / SigRad > 0.93 àor SensorStr + 1.08 > SigRad. The easiest way to remember it, I've found, is to think of it like this: The blip you make in space needs to be smaller than some particular threshold value that represents the smallest blip anyone can probe out. The blip size is normally Sig Radius, but for probing purposes it is modified by Sensor Strength ù the more sensors, the smaller the blip. The threshold value you need to get below is 1.08. So we have the rule [blip] [smaller than] [threshold], which in terms of actual stats and numbers gives us: [SigRad / SensorStr] [<] [1.08]. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Contralto Rift Tech	Posted - 2011.02.19 16:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Tippia The formula is SigRad / SensorStr < 1.08. àor SensorStr / SigRad > 0.93 àor SensorStr + 1.08 > SigRad. The easiest way to remember it, I've found, is to think of it like this: The blip you make in space needs to be smaller than some particular threshold value that represents the smallest blip anyone can probe out. The blip size is normally Sig Radius, but for probing purposes it is modified by Sensor Strength ù the more sensors, the smaller the blip. The threshold value you need to get below is 1.08. So we have the rule [blip] [smaller than] [threshold], which in terms of actual stats and numbers gives us: [SigRad / SensorStr] [<] [1.08]. Do you have the formula that produces the 1.08 figure?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.02.20 02:35:00 - [26] Originally by: Contralto Do you have the formula that produces the 1.08 figure? Here and in the thread linked in the article. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Contralto Rift Tech	Posted - 2011.02.20 06:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Contralto Do you have the formula that produces the 1.08 figure? Here and in the thread linked in the article. Your a Star! thanks.
Allaera Caldari Avatar Dynasty Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2011.02.21 06:40:00 - [28] Originally by: Drexit 1) type in "skirmish" into the items window 2) click "projected effects" at the bottom of your ship window 3) drag "Skirmish Warfare Mindlink" into the Boosters/Implant window 4) Right click "Squad Commander" in the mid right of your ship window 5) > Bonuses From Ship 6) > Click your unprobable loki 7) See your stats change Fixed that for you

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