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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.02.19 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium So what you're saying is that incorrect language can be precise.
Yes. It's not even particularly difficult. Just use a very technical term to describe something that the term is not meant to describe. You've now described with high precision what that something isà except that you're quite wrong.
You ignored my second statement, so I'll repeat it, if you are wrong, you aren't communicating the intended message, therefore, your communication is not precise. By the way, real men biomass when they emoragequit.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.02.19 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 19/02/2011 15:04:45
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium You ignored my second statement, so I'll repeat it, if you are wrong, you aren't communicating the intended message, therefore, your communication is not precise.
No, I didn't ignore it because it was just a repetition of what you first said.
And no, the communication can be very precise without being right. When I say that my TV develops 192.87 J/rad of torque, I'm being very precise. I'm also being quite incorrect in more ways than one. The problem is that you're equating meaning and message, when the two are rather separate things.
"By default" means precisely that: that it's not mandatory. That there is a choice, but that one is madeà wellà by default, if you do not make the choice actively.
"By default" would be incorrect if there was no choice and if the action was mandatory.
Replacing one for the other would make the meaning precise but the message incorrect. Feel free to say that they're wrong ù in fact, that they're outright lying ù but claiming that they're imprecise because they choose a wording with a rather precise meaning is quite contradictory. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Sadayiel
Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.02.19 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Sadayiel on 19/02/2011 15:27:02 Due constant request by ingame NPC (more exactly capsuleer ship crews) CCP is now obligated to enforce the new Yulai convention
To stop the constant Capsuleer disdain for their crew life forcing them to horrible horrible deaths due massive centrifugal forces by spinning the ships The new yulai convention forces the players to watch their ship spin *SLOWLY* and if they wish bigger emotions they can spin themselves until they throw out
P.S: Explanation and Crew after ship spin
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GateScout
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Posted - 2011.02.19 15:58:00 -
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I very upset that FiS will be mandatory. I don't fly in space and I'm only concerned about the market. I don't want to have to see ships. I don't even own a ship in Eve.
Please make FiS an optional part of this game. I don't want to be bothered with anything that may possibly add precious seconds to my market manipulation.
Thanks for reading.

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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.19 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn How to spot an Incarna troll, Part 1:
A genuine complaint about Incarna will look something like this:
"I am afraid that the addition of Incarna implies a mandatory switch to new mechanics for current processes such as fitting ships, utilising the market and communicating with agents which, in the interest of immersion, will be less efficient than the current mechanics, costing me time."
A troll, on the other hand, looks like this:
"WAH WAH WAH SHIP SPINNING WILL NOW BE SHIP SPINNING WITH A BALCONY ON SCREEN WAH WAH WAH".
Now you know.
Fly safe.
I have never seen anyone post like the first example so in your opinion everyone here are trolls? Well it is EVE so fair enough
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Lord Haur
Amarr Star Frontiers
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Posted - 2011.02.19 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Haur on 19/02/2011 16:39:08
Originally by: Sadayiel Edited by: Sadayiel on 19/02/2011 15:27:02 Due constant request by ingame NPC (more exactly capsuleer ship crews) CCP is now obligated to enforce the new Yulai convention
To stop the constant Capsuleer disdain for their crew life forcing them to horrible horrible deaths due massive centrifugal forces by spinning the ships The new yulai convention forces the players to watch their ship spin *SLOWLY* and if they wish bigger emotions they can spin themselves until they throw out
P.S: Explanation and Crew after ship spin
Except that when "spinning your ship", you are actually causing the camera drone providing the video feed to your pod to orbit your ship extremely fast. The ship itself doesn't move.
As for things like vagabond crews and when your dominix does a random somersault, I'm guessing that ships would include some kind of inertial dampener, to go with the artificial gravity.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.02.19 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: sableye the dev blog says it won;t take you any longer todo stuff in it that it does now or as close as they can possibly get.
Please quote the dev blog where it says that. ...
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Razin on 19/02/2011 17:16:12
Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Do people here think that 'default' and 'mandatory' are the same words?
Why do you people think that? They mean two different things.
They don't if the default can not be turned off. In that case 'default' is subsumed by mandatory. CCP could clarify for those of us who prefer communications that are a little more precise.
I'd infer that use of the term 'by default' would suggest the presence of alternative options.
It's hard to infer that when the blog says that "the current station hangar will be replaced with an enhanced balcony view". ...
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:29:00 -
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To me everything in the devblog pointed at a nice way of saying 'yo its mandatory deal with it'. I hope I'm wrong though. --
Originally by: Professor Slocombe
I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn
Originally by: Tippia àand even if they didn't mean "by default" like they wrote, so what?
"Balcony view" ≡ looking at your ship in its hangar.
Since we already have exactly that, why is this such a huge upsetting change?
because new things = scary
because "CCP IS WASTING RESOURCES ON IMPROVING PARTS OF THEIR GAME THAT I PERSONALLY AM NOT VERY INTERESTED IN"
because "WiS IS JUST BEING ADDED TO ATTRACT NEW SUBS, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT NEW PLAYERS ARE DUMB AND STUPID AND THAT WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY NEW PLAYERS"
etc.
lol they waste money flying ppl ti Iceland in CSM them wasting money isnt a surprise anymore Plus, we all know all the talent got moved to WoT
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 19/02/2011 17:43:01
Originally by: Razin Edited by: Razin on 19/02/2011 17:16:12
Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Do people here think that 'default' and 'mandatory' are the same words?
Why do you people think that? They mean two different things.
They don't if the default can not be turned off. In that case 'default' is subsumed by mandatory. CCP could clarify for those of us who prefer communications that are a little more precise.
I'd infer that use of the term 'by default' would suggest the presence of alternative options.
It's hard to infer that when the blog says that "the current station hangar will be replaced with an enhanced balcony view".
Semantics aside... really, what does it matter if instead of the normal 3rd person camera drone view of your ship in the hanger you have your avatar superimposed in front of the exact (or nearly so) same view?
Are you really trying to pretend that a slightly different view of your hanger, that even catching that limited glimpse of your avatar, is some sort of betrayal... that you are being "forced" to do something (even though it doesn't affect your previous hanger functionality in the slightest)?
Grow up.
All it would add is a deeper sense of immersion, and a greater sense of perspective of how impressive the truly massive ships in this game are supposed to look. If this feature had been present at day one, you would have eagerly invited your friends to look over your shoulder when you fired up the game to show it off and never given it a second thought. In fact you'd currently be scoffing at the notion that having such a hanger view was in any way forcing you to interact with the avatar specific activities that will be available.
Less semantics, more common sense please.
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Semantics aside... really, what does it matter if instead of the normal 3rd person camera drone view of your ship in the hanger you have your avatar superimposed in front of the exact (or nearly so) same view?
It all depends on the details. I'd say if you can still directly enter the market/contracts/fitting and other services from there then few people will have a problem. But what if you can't do that like you can do it with the current station interior? What if you had to walk your avatar over to some console in another room and work from there? Would that still be just the same? Not to me anyway.
Originally by: Ranger 1
Grow up.
Wasn't directed at me but still made me chuckle. People have valid concerns concerning this. CCP has explicitly taken them into account so how would it matter that you think it's a non-issue? Grow up.  --
Originally by: Professor Slocombe
I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 19/02/2011 17:59:06
Originally by: Myra2007
Originally by: Ranger 1
Semantics aside... really, what does it matter if instead of the normal 3rd person camera drone view of your ship in the hanger you have your avatar superimposed in front of the exact (or nearly so) same view?
It all depends on the details. I'd say if you can still directly enter the market/contracts/fitting and other services from there then few people will have a problem. But what if you can't do that like you can do it with the current station interior? What if you had to walk your avatar over to some console in another room and work from there? Would that still be just the same? Not to me anyway.
Originally by: Ranger 1
Grow up.
Wasn't directed at me but still made me chuckle. People have valid concerns concerning this. CCP has explicitly taken them into account so how would it matter that you think it's a non-issue? Grow up. 
As to the first part, so it becomes "different" if your avatar has to move or turn around to do something. Is this really a game breaker for you? Really? 
As to the second, you answered yourself. CCP has made a point of taking this into account, so yes, there isn't really any point in people getting worked up about it. If being told to grow up and keep an interface change in a video game in perspective offends you, you really need to get a life.
(And no, that was not directed specifically at you).  ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.19 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
As to the first part, so it becomes "different" if your avatar has to move or turn around to do something.
Yes. It's probably hard to grasp but anything that prolongs the time from me docking to acessing valuable services is a nuisance. I don't want to be forced to that every time. Wait what mission runners have to say about that once when they need 20 extra seconds just to get their next mission.
Originally by: Ranger 1
Is this really a game breaker for you? Really? 
Are you in need of a banana? Would suit you well tbh.
Originally by: Ranger 1
If being told to grow up and keep an interface change in a video game in perspective offends you, you really need to get a life.
You seem to be all about being judgemental. Why are you even taking part in this discussion when you're only here to fling poo at bystanders? You really have some issues of your own to work on which is probably why you're so obsessed with telling people how they need to change their rl (which you obviously don't know anything about). Have a nice day, King Louie!
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Originally by: Professor Slocombe
I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.02.19 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 19/02/2011 18:29:20
Originally by: Myra2007
Originally by: Ranger 1
As to the first part, so it becomes "different" if your avatar has to move or turn around to do something.
Yes. It's probably hard to grasp but anything that prolongs the time from me docking to acessing valuable services is a nuisance. I don't want to be forced to that every time. Wait what mission runners have to say about that once when they need 20 extra seconds just to get their next mission.
Originally by: Ranger 1
Is this really a game breaker for you? Really? 
Are you in need of a banana? Would suit you well tbh.
Originally by: Ranger 1
If being told to grow up and keep an interface change in a video game in perspective offends you, you really need to get a life.
You seem to be all about being judgemental. Why are you even taking part in this discussion when you're only here to fling poo at bystanders? You really have some issues of your own to work on which is probably why you're so obsessed with telling people how they need to change their rl (which you obviously don't know anything about). Have a nice day, King Louie!
Apparently I've hit a nerve. It's never pleasant to be informed that something you are obsessing over if frivolous, but you will benefit in the long run from the more mature perspective I have exposed you to. 
Verbal fencing aside, it would probably be logical to see what shows up on the test server before getting too worked up. At least wait to get more specifics in the upcoming Dev blogs. No point in stressing over "what if's".
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.19 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Apparently I've hit a nerve. It's never pleasant to be informed that something you are obsessing over if frivolous, but you will benefit in the long run from the more mature perspective I have exposed you to. 
Yes. Here is a reiteration of your mature perspective:
Really? REALLY? 
You need to grow up.
You need to get a life.
Why you didn't add "You need to... wait no you REALLY need to get laid." and "You're ghey." to make that sort of argument bulletproof is beyond me. Apparently it wasn't needed to let you claim your moral victory anyway so good riddance. 
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Originally by: Professor Slocombe
I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
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Lynx Australis
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Posted - 2011.02.19 18:35:00 -
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CCP also told us that Planetary interaction doesn't require much work and it's good passive income.
In reality, after about million clicks, you have first batch of wrong **** coming to your storage and then you have to do another million clicks to fix it.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.02.19 18:38:00 -
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Attempt at a translation of the developer blog.
'We're making it so that when you dock in the hanger bay you're going to get a new interface you can play around with and still quickly do things at the 'balcony,' which isnt too different from what it is now cept the ship spinning part. If you decide to you can walk away from the balcony and do things that are more 'incarna-ish'.' Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 20JAN11
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.02.19 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 19/02/2011 18:53:46
Originally by: Myra2007
Originally by: Ranger 1
Apparently I've hit a nerve. It's never pleasant to be informed that something you are obsessing over if frivolous, but you will benefit in the long run from the more mature perspective I have exposed you to. 
Yes. Here is a reiteration of your mature perspective:
Really? REALLY? 
You need to grow up.
You need to get a life.
Why you didn't add "You need to... wait no you REALLY need to get laid." and "You're ghey." to make that sort of argument bulletproof is beyond me. Apparently it wasn't needed to let you claim your moral victory anyway so good riddance. 
Sorry you don't like my turn of phrase, I'm not one to coddle people. If a person is being a goof, I have no issue with pointing it out in no uncertain terms. As far as the "good riddance" remark is concerned, let me assure you I'm not going anywhere. The EVE community has had to endure my point of view for several years now, and I wouldn't want to disappoint the fans. I made a point of stressing that my previous comments were not directed at you specifically, and despite your taking it otherwise (based on this last post) I will continue to do so.
I see no response to the actual meat of that post. We really don't have any details yet on what the hanger view is going to entail, other than CCP that is going to great lengths to ensure that is does not impact current game play in any significant way.
We as players won't know if our collective viewpoint on what constitutes "a significant impact" is the same as CCP's until we have more details and/or a chance to get our own hands on it. Voicing our opinions on the subject is fine (in fact the CSM already has, in great detail) but knee jerk nerd rage based on only the vaguest information is more than a bit over the top.
Edit:
Quote: 'We're making it so that when you dock in the hanger bay you're going to get a new interface you can play around with and still quickly do things at the 'balcony,' which isnt too different from what it is now cept the ship spinning part. If you decide to you can walk away from the balcony and do things that are more 'incarna-ish'.'
Well put Nova.
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.02.19 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau @OP 0/10 troll gtfo, your opinion is meaningless
You could learn to read, and understand that yes, WIS is going to be mandatory since the moment you dock you'll be on the balcony of the captain's quarters, looking up at your ship.
This upsets me because (a) CCP only just promised that WIS would be optional, (b) my computer can't handle the station environment, and (c) we miss out on the de-podding cutscene we were promised :\
It was a while ago when they first mentioned Incarna, but they specifically said that they won't bother with doing this. I think it was at fanfest 2008 or 2009. Essentially, they said looking at your ship is cool the first time, but no one would bother to do it a second time.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.02.19 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau @OP 0/10 troll gtfo, your opinion is meaningless
You could learn to read, and understand that yes, WIS is going to be mandatory since the moment you dock you'll be on the balcony of the captain's quarters, looking up at your ship.
This upsets me because (a) CCP only just promised that WIS would be optional, (b) my computer can't handle the station environment, and (c) we miss out on the de-podding cutscene we were promised :\
It was a while ago when they first mentioned Incarna, but they specifically said that they won't bother with doing this. I think it was at fanfest 2008 or 2009. Essentially, they said looking at your ship is cool the first time, but no one would bother to do it a second time.
I'm pretty sure we won't have to endure a "de-podding" cut scene as that would get tedious quickly. At that time they were thinking that they could not incorporate a 3rd person view of yourself outside your ship, and their opinion (and perhaps mental justification for this) was that people didn't really want it anyway. This caused quite a bit of very vocal disappointment in the community, which I think surprised and perhaps concerned them.
If the balcony view is optional, great.
If the balcony view has to be mandatory do to how and when the software has to handle the switch to the "Avatar state" so be it... as long as the impact to normal game play is negligible. It may need to go this route as the original information given out indicated that in station activities would probably be switched to different servers than those used for in space activities... or maybe that switch can be made once you leave the balcony now, I guess we will have to wait and see.
There may very well be large benefits to having that switch made as soon as you enter a station/outpost, as it would take a fitting/market/production/inventory manipulation activities off of the main servers for a system... freeing up resources for everyone's in-space activities. This consideration will probably have more impact on how the balcony view is handled than some people having an aversion to seeing their avatar.
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Stupid McStupidson
Gallente Hoek Lyne and Sinker
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Posted - 2011.02.19 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
Originally by: sableye the dev blog says it won;t take you any longer todo stuff in it that it does now or as close as they can possibly get.
Please quote the dev blog where it says that.
Originally by: CCP Chiliad One important requirement in our approach to CaptainÆs Quarters is that none of it will get in the way of a veteran player. You can dock, repair and refit your ship, dump your cargo into your hangar inventory and talk to agents with the same ease as you currently have. Throughout our discussions, the Council of Stellar Management (CSM) has been adamant about this as well as about the load times when docking. Our UI guys are working on some pretty amazing things, and they will keep the current usability very much in mind, aiming to further improve it.
Did you even read it? As to being 'forced'... Current: View ship from virtual balcony via camera drone Soon: View ship from real balcany via clone eyes. The horror.
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.02.19 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Stupid McStupidson
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: sableye the dev blog says it won;t take you any longer todo stuff in it that it does now or as close as they can possibly get.
Please quote the dev blog where it says that.
Originally by: CCP Chiliad One important requirement in our approach to CaptainÆs Quarters is that none of it will get in the way of a veteran player. You can dock, repair and refit your ship, dump your cargo into your hangar inventory and talk to agents with the same ease as you currently have. Throughout our discussions, the Council of Stellar Management (CSM) has been adamant about this as well as about the load times when docking. Our UI guys are working on some pretty amazing things, and they will keep the current usability very much in mind, aiming to further improve it.
Did you even read it? As to being 'forced'... Current: View ship from virtual balcony via camera drone Soon: View ship from real balcany via clone eyes. The horror.
No, I didn't, but if you like you can go back and find the fanfest video where the dev was talking very specifically about what I just mentioned. CCP has been known to pull features or mention some false information before.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.02.19 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Stupid McStupidson
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: sableye the dev blog says it won;t take you any longer todo stuff in it that it does now or as close as they can possibly get.
Please quote the dev blog where it says that.
Originally by: CCP Chiliad One important requirement in our approach to CaptainÆs Quarters is that none of it will get in the way of a veteran player. You can dock, repair and refit your ship, dump your cargo into your hangar inventory and talk to agents with the same ease as you currently have. Throughout our discussions, the Council of Stellar Management (CSM) has been adamant about this as well as about the load times when docking. Our UI guys are working on some pretty amazing things, and they will keep the current usability very much in mind, aiming to further improve it.
Did you even read it?
Where does it say that it "it wont take you any longer"? ...
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2011.02.19 23:03:00 -
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Knowing CCP we'll be 'encouraged' to use the WIS environment to do simple things like loading new ammo.
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sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2011.02.19 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Stupid McStupidson
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: sableye the dev blog says it won;t take you any longer todo stuff in it that it does now or as close as they can possibly get.
Please quote the dev blog where it says that.
Originally by: CCP Chiliad One important requirement in our approach to CaptainÆs Quarters is that none of it will get in the way of a veteran player. You can dock, repair and refit your ship, dump your cargo into your hangar inventory and talk to agents with the same ease as you currently have. Throughout our discussions, the Council of Stellar Management (CSM) has been adamant about this as well as about the load times when docking. Our UI guys are working on some pretty amazing things, and they will keep the current usability very much in mind, aiming to further improve it.
Did you even read it?
Where does it say that it "it wont take you any longer"?
"You can dock, repair and refit your ship, dump your cargo into your hangar inventory and talk to agents with the same ease as you currently have."
if ti snto as fast now it can;t possible be with the same ease..
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.02.19 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 19/02/2011 17:43:01
Originally by: Razin Edited by: Razin on 19/02/2011 17:16:12
Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn
I'd infer that use of the term 'by default' would suggest the presence of alternative options.
It's hard to infer that when the blog says that "the current station hangar will be replaced with an enhanced balcony view".
Semantics aside... really, what does it matter if instead of the normal 3rd person camera drone view of your ship in the hanger you have your avatar superimposed in front of the exact (or nearly so) same view?
Are you really trying to pretend that a slightly different view of your hanger, that even catching that limited glimpse of your avatar, is some sort of betrayal... that you are being "forced" to do something (even though it doesn't affect your previous hanger functionality in the slightest)?
Grow up.
All it would add is a deeper sense of immersion, and a greater sense of perspective of how impressive the truly massive ships in this game are supposed to look. If this feature had been present at day one, you would have eagerly invited your friends to look over your shoulder when you fired up the game to show it off and never given it a second thought. In fact you'd currently be scoffing at the notion that having such a hanger view was in any way forcing you to interact with the avatar specific activities that will be available.
Less semantics, more common sense please.
This is not a semantics argument. CCP clearly stated that they decided to remove the current hangar view and replace it with a compulsory avatar view. A very small amount of reading comprehension is required to understand this.
You talk about immersion yet leaving your pod every time you dock is anything but immersive. As I wrote in another thread, it is ridiculous and immersion breaking to always end up outside your ship if all you're doing is making the rounds to pick up the stuff you purchased remotely from several jumps away, or just popped in to switch a ship, or dump your cargo, etc. Getting out of your pod should be a special thing that you do because you are compelled by Incarna content, not because CCP decided to hardcode it that way.
You also decided to ignore that this will almost definitely increase the station environment loading time. People don't like staring at loading bars.
Next time, when you have the urge to tell someone to grow up, ask yourself why you feel like going down on CCP every time someone has a valid complaint about the direction they decided to take with EVE. ...
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.02.19 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Razin
Where does it say that it "it wont take you any longer"?
"You can dock, repair and refit your ship, dump your cargo into your hangar inventory and talk to agents with the same ease as you currently have."
if ti snto as fast now it can;t possible be with the same ease..
Because "easy" and "fast" have different meanings? I'm prepared to give CCP the benefit of the doubt here; however something tells me their marketing department had a hand in the wording of this blog. ...
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Sebadai
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.02.19 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: Sebadai on 19/02/2011 23:52:18 I am seriously surprised at the amount of rage there is over something so trivial as seeing your ship and avatar at once!!oneone
Seriously some people need to chill!
Most likely everything will stay the same with the hangar view just getting a new background which not only renders your ship but your avatar, too, and everything else Incarna related will probably only load once you click "enter captain's quarters".
Gamers have to be the most conservative, the-sky-is-falling, doomsaying demographic out there. You see the same **** on almost any gamer-forum out there so why should it be different here I guess?
click me, angry nerd ;-P
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.02.20 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Razin
Where does it say that it "it wont take you any longer"?
"You can dock, repair and refit your ship, dump your cargo into your hangar inventory and talk to agents with the same ease as you currently have."
if ti snto as fast now it can;t possible be with the same ease..
Because "easy" and "fast" have different meanings? I'm prepared to give CCP the benefit of the doubt here; however something tells me their marketing department had a hand in the wording of this blog.
Quote: the same ease
as in, just as easy.
if it was any slower, then it wouldn't be as easy.
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