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Val Amora
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Posted - 2011.02.20 04:59:00 -
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Does anyone even use these? Seems like they'd just get insta-popped.
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Target Painter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.20 05:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Val Amora
Does anyone even use these? Seems like they'd just get insta-popped.
They are one of the least-used ship types in the game. And yes, they get insta-popped.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:43:00 -
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poorly armed and half the bonus of recons EW bonus, half the signature and they would be used, right now they are destroyers that do no damage and barly run one or two of their bonused modules effectivly.
in short, they suck :)
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Meridius Dex
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.02.20 15:21:00 -
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The Sentinel is great as a solo boat hunting smaller targets. But it is only feasible in remote areas, as it's poor DPS makes chopping down a target slow-going (see Recon, Force, Pilgrim).
[Sentinel, Laerise 78/19/2831/3KR]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Small Armor Repairer II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Tracking Disruptor II, Optimal Range Disruption
Warp Disruptor II
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Egress Port Maximizer I
Warrior II x4
Hobgoblin II x4
Hornet EC-300 x4
Alpha-caps out any frigate and holds them down hopelessly while you kill them, which can take awhile.
Don't bother with EAFs in gangs, either. Unless you like being called primary even more than your gang's highest damage dealers.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2011.02.20 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Target Painter
Originally by: Val Amora
Does anyone even use these? Seems like they'd just get insta-popped.
They are one of the least-used ship types in the game. And yes, they get insta-popped.
Not one of - THE least used class.
I believe Dr. Eyjo counted about 200 EAF pilots in his last economic quarterly. In all of Eve.
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Lumbermill
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.20 15:54:00 -
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They are great for EFT theory, and fun on orginized 1v1 fights, but that is ALL. the kitsune can be in 1 of two states.
1. A wreck.
2. Almost abotu to be a wreck.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.02.20 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lumbermill
They are great for EFT theory, and fun on orginized 1v1 fights, but that is ALL. the kitsune can be in 1 of two states.
1. A wreck.
2. Almost abotu to be a wreck.
hmmm kitsunes and sentinels are interesting tools when used right. admittedly, like every other ship that CCP introduced since AF's they were prenerfed like hell, so they do need some work.
hyena lost alot after the nano nerf, but the keres is the worse overall.
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Ger Tomard
Caldari
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
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Posted - 2011.02.20 17:14:00 -
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Hyena is great for freighter webbing
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Elektra Martinez
Amarr
Spycotics
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Posted - 2011.02.20 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Elektra Martinez on 20/02/2011 17:18:57
All the Electronic Frigates have their use in the right situation, fleet or not. I do think CCP should consider reducing their signature to interceptor size and give them a slight buff to damage potential.
It would be a welcome addition to the Dramiel wars frigates are suffering from.
I vote for 25Mbit Drone bandwidth on the Sentinel, 15Mbit on the Keres, 3rd launcher hardpoint on the Hyena and simply a redesign of the Kitsune 
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.02.20 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Elektra Martinez
simply a redesign of the Kitsune
oh the kitsune's design is good as it is.
only changes I would give to it would probably be more HP and agility.
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Hinaelark
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Posted - 2011.02.20 18:36:00 -
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i've used a keres a few times as a longer point for small gangs. It's cheaper than a lachesis or arazu and can be made cap stable with a disruptor and enough sensor damps to bring a drake under 25k max targetting range. Very one-trick pony kind of effect but it survived the roams.
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Baneken
Gallente
The New Knighthood
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Posted - 2011.02.20 19:03:00 -
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Yes keres is an excellent long range tackler with 2x damps & domination disruptor and can keep a BS in place indefinitely but that's about it as keres has a rather large sig or some might say huge and it's also a rather slow for a frigate.
I've used keres on occasion for keeping ships running out of bubbles and for gate camping duties, it also has some limited use on roams but limited survivability is a problem like with all EAFs.
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.20 19:24:00 -
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With a good pilot he doesn't get instapopped in a frigate, but the problem with these frigs is the ewar strength. You need a recon or something to actually cause problems and not just annoynance.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
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VanNostrum
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Posted - 2011.02.20 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lumbermill
They are great for EFT theory, and fun on orginized 1v1 fights, but that is ALL. the kitsune can be in 1 of two states.
1. A wreck.
2. Almost abotu to be a wreck.
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Batelle
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.02.20 22:35:00 -
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fast but not fast enough
Very low EHP
ewar mods are cap hogs, especially on a frigate.
low dps to contribute to gang.
I can fly a keres (arguably the worst eaf). If you want to use it for the tackling bonus, an ares will still be better, if you want to use it for damps, well, damps are kind of in a sorry state right now. Using based named damps to save on cap will cost as much as the ship itself, it'll still have incredibly small EHP. You'd probably be better off with a kitsune anyway. The short of it is on some kind of frigate roam, there's almost no reason to bring an EAF over a properly fit interceptor or assault frig.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.02.20 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: Omara Otawan on 20/02/2011 22:46:55
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I believe Dr. Eyjo counted about 200 EAF pilots in his last economic quarterly. In all of Eve.
I believe they did only count ships that were currently active. Which is a pretty bad method to begin with if thats the case.
I own a Kitsune and Sentinel and fly them frequently (as frequently as frigate gangs are being run that is), but do not sit in them all the time when logging off. They are both good ships, especially the Kitsune, if used properly.
Keres has some niche uses for gate camping but isnt all that great, and Hyena is completely useless.
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Headerman
Minmatar
Metanoia.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.02.20 22:59:00 -
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There are better ships to fly
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KWyz
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Posted - 2011.02.20 23:38:00 -
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The CSM member, Korvin, used one to look for a fight from people in highsec, in level 1 and 2s DED complexes.
He killed a whole metric asston of guys who had no idea what the little bugger(the Sentinel) could do.
I see he still uses one.
Personally, I believe it's the best frigate hull out there for a 1vs1.
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OT Smithers
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Posted - 2011.02.21 00:30:00 -
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Forgot the third and most important part...
The Kitsune:
1. Dead
2. About to be dead
3. Out of range
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Batelle
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.02.21 03:31:00 -
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Edited by: Batelle on 21/02/2011 03:32:47
4 light drones plus neuts. I wouldn't want to fight it with any frig except an ishkur.
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2011.02.22 17:09:00 -
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So... Dose anyone know if EAF are going to get a boost? Any info would be great.
Scorpionidae 
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Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2011.02.22 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpionidae
So... Dose anyone know if EAF are going to get a boost? Any info would be great.
Scorpionidae
ccp sed "yeah they do need a boost, but with 200 pilots thats too small a percentage to give two shirts about"
well not an exact quote but close.
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.22 17:16:00 -
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Probably...the question is more of "which ships get the boost first". Basically meaning which ships have biggest game breaking qualities at the moment and which doesn't. I don't think EAF's are on top of the lists...so it's a long wait. :)
Originally by: CCP Shadow
Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
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Kneebone
Heathens' Harbor
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Posted - 2011.02.22 17:27:00 -
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The funny part about a Sentinal is that the Crucifier has 15km lock range on it and that is a big deal when it comes to Turret EWAR. A sentinal with a singla sig amp can sit a 65+km and apply ewar.
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Tony SoXai
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Posted - 2011.02.22 18:31:00 -
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The Sentinal and Kitsune are both good for gangs or solo.
The Hyena is ok for like tackling or something and the Keres is just pretty bad methinks.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.02.22 18:34:00 -
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Sentinel for solo/gang.
Kitsune for gang (consider Griffin first, better value and moves better).
Remainder are worthless.
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illirdor
Gallente
Renegades of the Dark Crusade
The Ascendent Dominion
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Posted - 2011.02.22 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: OT Smithers
3. Out of range
well it can jam up to +70 km soo i dont know how many times it will be out of range...
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