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Slasher42
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Posted - 2011.02.25 01:51:00 -
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Still consider myself something of a newb since I've only been playing about 3 months. Was kind of sporadic with my training the first month and just trained whatever caught my interest... Have buckled down a bit more recently and getting all Core Compentency to Standard soon... Also have everything needed to use T2 Shield modules and T2 weapon upgrades...
I'm really thinking I want to go for a T3 cruiser... I am a minmatar pilot flying a Hurrican right now. Mostly do missions with corp.. Occasional pvp.. and exploration when corp mates arent around.
Just checked training time and it would take me 43 days to be in a Loki... or 46 days to be in a Tengu. I already have good Medium Projectile skills but only moderate missile skills... So that would probably add some more time for the Tengu training.
Which one would you reccommend training for to do mostly pve... some pve... and exploration since these T3 ships are supposed to be able to re-fit to do everything.
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Headerman
Minmatar
Metanoia.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.02.25 02:18:00 -
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Go for the Loki. Reasons:
1) You already fly a cane, a Loki handles similarly
2) Fighting with guns is more fun than fighting with missiles
3) The Loki makes an excellent exploration/PVE/pvp ship
4) It can shield tank or armour tank.
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
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Posted - 2011.02.25 02:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Headerman
3) The Loki makes an excellent exploration/PVE/pvp ship
lol
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freshspree
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Posted - 2011.02.25 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Headerman
3) The Loki makes an excellent exploration/PVE/pvp ship
lol
lol
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Brahan Seer
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2011.02.25 09:12:00 -
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Go for the loki......cos it's simply cooler. Minmatar all the way my boy, train those missile skills too, you'll need 'em later on. You can cross train to caldari in the future..... it'll be much easier as you'll already have shield/missiles trained up cos you'll already be an awesome minmatar pilot
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
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Posted - 2011.02.25 14:28:00 -
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Tengu is better than the loki at all 3 - PvE, PvP and exploration. Missiles are easy to train for tech 2 aswell, so training missile skills isn't that much effort.
In short, if you can help it, fly the tengu. Only thing a Loki is great for is heavy tackling (long range webs, point, loads of plates and resists).
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Alec Freeman
Minmatar
Adventurers
Matari Visionary Coalition
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Posted - 2011.02.25 14:57:00 -
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I would strongly recomend the Loki.It beats the Tengu in most fields, with the exeption of mission running. Also its funner to fly with ACs  .
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2011.02.25 15:10:00 -
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I don't fly all 4 but general consensus says something like:
Tengu >>>>>>>> Loki >>>> Proteus > Legion
Not sure if the number of arrows is 100% precise but you get the picture ...
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2011.02.25 19:23:00 -
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loki does shred light ships with the armor/web combo of subs better than the tengu, also works great as a better all round, higher alpha arty cane. ofc in link mode does the best skirmish bonuses in the game
other than that, the tengus better.
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Lt Angus
Caldari
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.02.25 20:17:00 -
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Loki best ship in game
How I'd Fix
Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers |
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Slasher42
Minmatar
Warriors in Number5
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Posted - 2011.02.25 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: Slasher42 on 25/02/2011 22:09:20
5 Posts for Loki
2 Posts for Tengu
2 worthless posts adding nothing to the discussion...
I think the Loki has more usefulness in PVP then Tengu... And I agree with someone else saying AutoCannon/Arty Cannon are more fun then missiles. Missiles are to much just point click and wait for them to land...
My only concern is if the Loki is good enough for PVE... Level 4 missions in particular... And the harder ones like Extravaganza or Assault or Words Collide... CAN the Loki do these level 4 missions SOLO in amount of respectable time?
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knentil
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Posted - 2011.02.26 00:56:00 -
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I agree the loki is way better than the tengu.
I mean you don't want to be like everyone else do you?
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Sarfux
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Posted - 2011.02.26 01:31:00 -
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I agree with everyone else who states get a Loki!
It is very much pleasured when I, with a Legion, see a Loki come in the Drone Room or any other survey site, and get mad because they can't get the kills as fast as I... gotta love it!!! hehe
Anyway! I say go Loki! Less competitive for me!!! 
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Target Painter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.26 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Target Painter on 26/02/2011 02:00:27
Originally by: Slasher42
My only concern is if the Loki is good enough for PVE... Level 4 missions in particular... And the harder ones like Extravaganza or Assault or Words Collide... CAN the Loki do these level 4 missions SOLO in amount of respectable time?
Nope.
The Tengu is better in every aspect for PvE. The only places where I needed a Loki, were a few of the higher-end Blood Raider/Sansha plexes. Even then, I was blitzing, not clearing, the sites.
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Sonya Kranz
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Posted - 2011.02.26 02:01:00 -
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you get pleasured when you see a loki? 
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Target Painter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.26 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sonya Kranz
you get pleasured when you see a loki?
DAT ROACH
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Mister Agreeable
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Posted - 2011.02.26 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Slasher42
Which one would you reccommend training for to do mostly pve... some pve... and exploration since these T3 ships are supposed to be able to re-fit to do everything.
That'll be Tengu, Tengu and Tengu. And I do fly both ships. Loki is bloody awesome in PVP, but subpar in PVE, where most of your activities are. Tengu is so much better on PVE it's not even funny, idk what those people that recommend Loki are smoking.
My advise: train for Tengu first, for PVE, then Loki, which will be your exclusive pew pew ship.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2011.02.26 13:45:00 -
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I just pushed my 10gu to 45,872 shield HP / 650 dps. What an awesome little ship.
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Straight Edged
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Posted - 2011.02.26 14:06:00 -
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tengu replaces loki 100% in PVE. in no situation is loki better.
On the other hand Loki will never be the tengu in pvp. They have very different roles altogether. I use my loki/prot if i need to lock someone at gates, or i need a huge buffer but i still stick to tengu if i need a pwnmobile against a small group of ships.
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Muad 'dib
Caldari
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.02.26 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I just pushed my 10gu to 45,872 shield HP / 650 dps. What an awesome little ship.
shhhhh!!!
Keep this config under your hat please, also, get a hat.
everyone, nothing to see here, please continue using active rep isk pinata setups.
Meep Meep!
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Maz3r Rakum
Gallente
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.02.26 20:30:00 -
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Loki. The armor long webs one is pretty sweet. Tengus are just pinatas 
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Guillieme Lohran
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Posted - 2011.02.27 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sonya Kranz
you get pleasured when you see a loki?
I used to think the Tengu was ugly then I got a Loki. My eyes are still bleeding.
They're both good ships but yeah, the Tengu rules PVE.
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