Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.04 22:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Helen Highwater
... What is useful however is the ability to look at other people's ideas and to point out all the reasons as to why they are wrong and bad. As it happens, I am very good at this - ...
At the meetings, in the internal CSM forum and at the December summit, I have been very active and vocal in providing quality feedback and constructive criticism on a multitude of topics raised by CCP as well as working with the other delegates to ensure that the player base as a whole is properly represented in those discussions. ...
It seems to me that for almost any proposed change or fix there are people who disagree. You state that you are very good at sorting out the good from the bad. I wouldn't expect you to say different. You however don't want to tell us what specifically you think are good or bad ideas. Although you do have a voting record people can search out, you donÆt seem to offer that easily. In this post you basically just say: CCP is not interested in your ideas players, but my views are very good and constructive û vote for me.
If candidates are not going to give any specifics of what their views or even general vision for eve is, I canÆt see why we are doing this csm business at all. How can I vote for someone who shares my views if they donÆt tell me what they are?
Everyone seems interested in talking about processes instead of substantive issues so let me ask a few questions on that.
It seems to me that this last csm was the first csm to actually get ccpÆs attention for any stretch of time. We have a dev blog asking players to post many fixes that they can work on. We also have seen at least a few of the items in the backlog get addressed. We have seen dev blogs about how much resources they are putting where and we have had devs even speak on podcasts about the direction of the game. Moreover we saw ccp back off of microtransactions to a certain extent.
This was accomplished despite the fact that before csm 5 took office ccp as a company had already assigned the majority of their devs to non-spaceship related tasks. Accordingly the fact that they accomplished more than all the prior csms is even more impressive.
This last csm was the first one to actually create a measurement of how responsive (or unresponsive) ccp is to the players.
Would you agree that this last csm did the best job at capturing ccps attention? If not which one was?
It seems that this last csm was the first to actually do something more than go to Iceland, have a few beers with the devs, shoot the sh___and come home. They were the first to actually create a situation where ccp really needed to address CSM concerns.
Mittani suggested that formal meeting minutes might be replaced by less formal methods like having meetings take place via skype. To me that sounds like he is going to return it to the prior do nothing csms. Do you agree with his proposal?
If you agree with him about dropping the minutes etc how are the players you are supposedly representing even to know what is going on?
If you do not agree with him would you be willing to take notes and post them (after getting ccp approval of course) so that the players can be kept informed on what you guys are doing?
-Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |
Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.05 04:20:00 -
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Thank you for your responses.
I tend to agree that forums would seem to be a better way to debate an issue than chat. It would allow some more in-depth discussion where everyone does not need to wait for each post. Moreover, itÆs often more important to know the reasons why someone votes a certain way than what the end vote is.
I understand that allot of the discussion of csm 5 happened on internal forums already. Its just that those internal forum posts are not made public. Mazz had proposed they be made public - I supported that proposal but never really followed it.
Would you support that they, or at least future forum posts, be made public? That way players could make a more informed vote on who really represents their views?
-Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |