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juliusceaser11892	Posted - 2011.02.27 04:04:00 - [1] So I'm getting ready to train for my rupture I'm picking this over the stabber for drone use, but was wondering weather to armor tank or shield tank any suggestions. Thanks
the raver Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.02.27 04:16:00 - [2] Originally by: juliusceaser11892 So I'm getting ready to train for my rupture I'm picking this over the stabber for drone use, but was wondering weather to armor tank or shield tank any suggestions. Thanks armor.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.02.27 04:21:00 - [3] Go for shields. You need those low slots to make the guns perform and the extra mobility will not hurt either. Just fly it like you would fly the Stabber.
juliusceaser11892	Posted - 2011.02.27 04:44:00 - [4] Ok now I'm still split
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.02.27 04:51:00 - [5] Do one of each. They're only like 4.5M or something. -Liang. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Umega Solis Mensa	Posted - 2011.02.27 04:53:00 - [6] End the next line with an E or a P.. and you're more likely to get helpful fits.. Pv... ---------------------------------------- Treat the EVE markets like you are its Pimp.. it is your 'willing' employee to fondle n use n abuse as you please.
juliusceaser11892	Posted - 2011.02.27 05:05:00 - [7] Oh my bad it's for pvp
Ambrosious Martin Anarchist Movment	Posted - 2011.02.27 05:10:00 - [8] Edited by: Ambrosious Martin on 27/02/2011 05:11:30 Just do yourself a favor... get hurricane. With the previlance of BC's today, and blobbing, your poor rupture will die quick. Unless ofc this is for empire war pvp. For fitting sake: 4x d180 Med nuet Small nuet Yt8 mwd Scram Web DC2 1600 rt plate EANM II 3x gyro II Ambit or dmg rigs Drones to taste, I always used ecm myself. edited for drones.
Caleidascope Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.02.27 05:32:00 - [9] Very very generally: ■ Shield for sniper fits ■ Armor for knife fighter fits
TaluxA	Posted - 2011.02.27 10:10:00 - [10] I'm guessing for pvp? Ruptures can either be shield or armor tanked. I'd go for a shield tank personally, given that eve is more crowded these days.

Cygnus Zhada	Posted - 2011.02.27 10:38:00 - [11] Edited by: Cygnus Zhada on 27/02/2011 10:41:55 And the complete answer is; They can be both, for PVE as for PVP. And actually, almost all good Minnie PVE ships/fits shield tank, and most of the time they do it in PVP as well. Only if you run armor (blob) gangs would you have an armor buffer, but otherwise it's all shield. For PVE, if you do missions for minmatar you run into angels a lot and then shield tanking is fantastic. Angels mostly do explosive damage which armor really sucks at, but shield works great with it. The thing is that, per usual, people just look at a ship and decide what it is based on slots they see rather than giving it some actual thought, but even in the case of the 3 mid slot rupture that's wrong. Here's a low SP lvl 2 fit: [Rupture, PVE - low SP - shield] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Gyrostabilizer I Gyrostabilizer I Tracking Enhancer I Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Invulnerability Field II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I, EMP M Small Tractor Beam I [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Warrior I x5 It's actually over tanked but that gives newer players some buffer to mess up, which is good. Turrets are personal flavour, I would keep to using AC's in lvl 2's unless you have good skills and drone skills, but choosing for 220's or 425 all depends on which you like better, bigger=best doesn't necessarily go in EVE. Once you get better (tanking) skills you can drop the Invul for an afterburner. For PVP there's 2 trains of thought; 1: go armor resulting in a slower, short range dps mobile with some neuting power. Garmon made this fit popular and it's actually quite good. But it's slow and has no range, new game mechanics have caught up with this strategy resulting in the fact that if you attack someone, he can attack you and hold you down and then his friends show up. 2: go shield, this results in a ship that uses the same MO as a Vagabond. It'll do about 1800m/s and 300 dps at 20km. This way, due to speed and having dps at range you can stay away from the target a bit meaning you can GTFO if stuff starts to go wrong. Speed (and agility) is a big asset in solo/small gang pvp, it's not of much use in the clueless big PVP blobs (which most ppl do). Here's a shield fit: [Rupture, PVP shield] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Small Energy Neutralizer II Improved Cloaking Device II Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Auxiliary Thrusters I Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I Warrior II x5 Warrior II x1 Cloak is a personal touch and depends on where you operate. Cloak+MWD makes it very easy and safe to avoid non-bubble gatecamps, quite handy but feel free to disregard that. --- Stultorum infinitus est numerus. EVE tutorials
Lt Angus Caldari the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.02.27 11:01:00 - [12] Shield, if they go for you, you are dead already in a t1 cruiser so make the most of being low pri target and hurt them with lots of dmg and tracking mods How I'd Fix Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
Umega Solis Mensa	Posted - 2011.02.27 18:54:00 - [13] [Rupture, PvP-Armor] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x1 ---------------------------------------- Treat the EVE markets like you are its Pimp.. it is your 'willing' employee to fondle n use n abuse as you please.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2011.02.27 20:01:00 - [14] Sorry, but tbh this: [Hurricane, ProperShip] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Medium Energy Neutralizer II 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Medium Energy Neutralizer II 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Valkyrie II x1 Warrior II x4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
juliusceaser11892	Posted - 2011.02.28 01:35:00 - [15] I know a canes better but my strategy to build up skills is going tech two n using the ships to build skills off of so I'm sticking with a rupture or stabber til I get t2 cruisers then bc
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.02.28 01:44:00 - [16] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 28/02/2011 01:45:19 Originally by: juliusceaser11892 I know a canes better but my strategy to build up skills is going tech two n using the ships to build skills off of so I'm sticking with a rupture or stabber til I get t2 cruisers then bc That is a good way to build up your combat experience, but you will have a long way to go before you are ready for a t2 cruiser. Meaning experience, not skillpoints only. Training up battlecruiser skill before going specialized t2 cruisers is usually the preferred way as the battlecruisers are good money makers if you run missions or rat for an income. And they are more powerful direct combat ships compared to t2 cruisers. For specializing later on, t2 cruisers are better than t2 battlecruisers I would say. With the t3 cruisers taking the gang boosting role as well as being more useful in direct combat there is little reason to fly a t2 battlecruiser left.
Tony SoXai	Posted - 2011.02.28 04:00:00 - [17] [Rupture, Shield Nano] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5
Argosus Waverunners	Posted - 2011.02.28 13:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Edited by: Ambrosious Martin on 27/02/2011 05:11:30 Just do yourself a favor... get hurricane. With the previlance of BC's today, and blobbing, your poor rupture will die quick. Unless ofc this is for empire war pvp. For fitting sake: 4x d180 Med nuet Small nuet Yt8 mwd Scram Web DC2 1600 rt plate EANM II 3x gyro II Ambit or dmg rigs Drones to taste, I always used ecm myself. edited for drones. wish my ruppy had 6 lows


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