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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.27 10:22:00 -
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I'm trying to run for CSM, but I can tell even this early that I'm not doing well.
Honestly I'm doing badly.
There is really about 3 or 4 seats up for election this time around, depending on who you talk to. The "Great 0.0 Powerblocks" are instructing all of their members on who to vote for in order to focus their votes into 5 or 6 candidates, ensuring that they get enough to win seats. They don't have a majority of voters, but they can line up their voters to make their votes count.
I am not one of those candidates, despite being in goonswarm.
That being said, I'm honestly running to promote idea that the in-game economy is the most important aspect of Eve. I'd like to think I have the same general agenda as the majority of the people here. I'd think that would be something the people here could get behind.
I don't have an effective gimmick, so there won't be any MLM-style campaign. I think my ideas are decent, but I also don't feel any kind of name recognition from anyone not on this board. I can focus my message, but I'm not quite sure where I should be going to get that message out there.
So what I'm saying is, I'm a candidate who's not going to win unless I get some help. Either with ideas or with your advocacy.
What should I be saying differently, now that you've seen my message?
What's important that I missed?
And finally, if anyone can help me with introductions to some of the empire manufacturing and research alliances, I'd love to talk to them.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.27 10:40:00 -
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 Originally by: AtheistOfFail
You have my vote if you can bring "change".
The only change I can really promise you is that someone on the CSM will have an understanding on the in game economy, and make that their focus.
And post here a ton.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.27 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Florestan Bronstein
Another (more personal) impression is that Kalrand seems to agree in many points with the agenda of the 0.0-backed candidates - this renders the "I will support them on their topics if they support me with my economy-related proposals" argument moot.
His threat to vote against CSM proposals he does personally support just because his "tit for tat" demands have not been met would not be credible. In order to trade votes on CSM proposals you have to appear to make sacrifices - otherwise you don't have anything to trade with.
I do tend to agree with the bulk of what's coming out of the 0.0 candidates. I also have a better understanding of the 0.0 economy than any of the other 0.0 candidates. Most of them have people in their alliances to manage the books, run logistics, and otherwise handle the softer side of being in 0.0.
I'm not going to be threatening to withhold my vote for what would otherwise be a good idea, simply if they ignore my proposals. What I would be able to do is explain why the things they might otherwise ignore because it "doesn't affect them" actually do have a second order impact on the things they care about.
Originally by: Florestan Bronstein
in case this isn't clear enough from the paragraphs above: my suggestion would be that if you want to vote for Kalrand, you should do so based on his kugu, not on his MD, agenda.
They are not mutually exclusive; they're two sides of the same coin written for different audiences. The effective objective is still the same.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.27 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tutskii
This kills any independence because I don't think you will cross the floor to oppose them on anything.
What makes a vote for you not just another vote for the 0.0 powerblocks?
I edited these two points in your comment together, since they hit on the same thing.
I'm running for CSM. Isn't that enough?
The Mittani can't come out and ban be from goonswarm for doing that alone, but I'm not even allowed to mention that I'm running on our own forums, or else Bad Things Will Happen to me for violating his orders not to split the vote. Goons are not even supposed to know I'm running, let alone vote for me.
Customarily, there was always a primary within goonswarm to decide on who "our" candidate would be, but then suddenly it was announced that primaries would be scrapped for his "Send Mittani and Vile Rat to Iceland" plan.
Honestly, I'm kind of ****ed I wasn't allowed to run internally, as I'd be better suited to run as a Goon candidate than as an independent candidate who happens to be in Goonswarm while there's an announced plan to "Take over the CSM".
Had we had an internal primary, the Mittani is popular enough that he would have won, but for the second slot I doubt Vile Rat would have. The average goon doesn't know who he is or what he does. That's why when you look back there's always a rather random goon if it was anyone other than Darius Johnson. I mean, who the hell is Helen Highwater? Ran in a primary, lost but made a good case for himself, and then won a slot during the next time around. I don't see why I couldn't do that.
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You need to say concisely what you would actually do, beyond fuzzy stuff like "understand economics".
I'd be delusional or an outright liar if I thought any *specific* proposal had a snowball's chance in hell of actually being implemented. I'm proposing that people vote for me for my way of looking at the things that will be covered by an NDA and you can't even know about. I'm sure that's not CCP's super secret plan for fixing blasters.
Telling CCP what they need to change doesn't work. Working with CCP on what they are going to change anyway is the way to be effective.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.27 12:31:00 -
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On another note, this CSM election feels like an election for president of some elementary school's fourth grade class where one kid is promising "Less homework and more recess!", and I'm standing here going "How about a bake sale once a month to buy new basketballs?".
Who are people going to vote for, and what's more likely to actually work?
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.27 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Kalrand on 27/02/2011 12:57:25
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
Making a topic in MD asking questions about CSM
That's probably the first thing I'd do. Hopefully I could get someone to sticky it up top.
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
all these topics tho, makes me doubt your focus & confidence to make a decision, thus doubt your leadership qualities.
I'm a believer that a thread should be on a single topic, or sub topic if it's large enough, or changes enough. I've never seen a value in having a 20 page thread that discusses dozens of different things. They're near impossible for people to get up to speed, and very difficult to search.
This allows people to focus on what's relevant now, and go back if the need to and find a page or two on a single topic.
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
You are a goon. ppl will see you to have the goon agenda. same as your bonds.
Are you saying that my candidacy is good for everyone? Much like my bonds?
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
Disregard goons,
Acquire creditability.
You may notice that Avalloc did exactly that. He dropped out of the Goonwaffe corp two weeks ago when he filled to run.
Personally, I thought it was a bit too hypocritical for me.
Edit: Grammer
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.27 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zeta Zhul
*shrug*
I have no idea what your positions are.
What am I to support if I don't know what you support? A summary, not too detailed, would be very nice of your ideas, positions, concepts, etc. Doesn't have to be a wall of text, but something of a set of bullet points would help.
Oh I think I have a post like that: here.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.28 16:00:00 -
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The conclusion I've come to is that I have no chance of winning while I'm in goonswarm.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.28 20:31:00 -
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That wasn't a defeatist statement, at this point I've been doing the math, and it would appear that I have a decent shot at being a high-level alternate, and knowing how long the term is, makes it likely that I'll end up on the CSM eventually anyway.
I really think there's only about three seats up for grabs to the "general public", and I think I'll be polling well, just not top three.
Not that I'm not doing everything in my ability to change that, I am. Dropping goonswarm is an idea, so are some ~other things~ that I'm doing.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.28 20:58:00 -
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A preview of my "official" campaign statement:
Vote KALRAND for CSM
The reason you don't know who I am is that I've had much better things to spend my time on than making funny websites or gimmicky new characters just to try to convince the average EvE player that I can grasp the second and third order effects of changes made in a complex system. I can, and that's actually what I do for a living when I'm not playing EvE.
I came up with a list of **** that the average player would like. (here) Either because they're something that should actually happen (Example: Moon goo rebalancing) or because the average player would ****ing love it (a T2 Orca). Doing these things would be good for the game, either to fix broken **** or Give People What They Want.
But CCP really doesn't give two flying ****s about ideas the CSM comes to the table with. They really only care about their own ideas. I'm sure they've got all kinds of stupid **** they want to put in (Incarna! Dust 514! Sparkle Vampires in Space!), that really needs to be shot down with a better reason than "**** you that's stupid.".
I'm that guy. Vote for me. Fly Kalrand to Iceland.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.28 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tutskii
What stops you from simply rejoining after the election and voting whatever way Mittens wants you to anyway (if there is coercion)?. And if there is no coercion and you agree with the 0.0 csm control bs, then what is the difference between voting for you or them?
1) Me leaving would be entirely window dressing for my campaign. I would be rejoining with the Kalrand character once it's over. I just don't want to turn off the "casual" empire person who doesn't know me anymore more than my normal likable personality would.
2) I don't take coercion very well. I mean, without you knowing how bullheaded and stubborn I am in the real word, there's really no way to explain that here. It's something I dismiss as an issue out of hand, and haven't come up with an effective way to express it in game. I guess you'd just have to trust me.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.01 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Manalapan
Originally by: Bumblefck
Enjoy the quiet, slow death of your thread in Jita Park 
lol and besides MD should support an MD Elite: Manalapan
The only time you post in MD is when you're running for CSM.
So once a year, like clockwork.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.01 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain
Trying to figure this out. Clearly Goons can see your threads here. Aren't the CEOs of Goon just kind of letting you do your thing?
On this board, yes. Please remember that the goons have their own forum.
Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain
Also, let's say you win and are coupled with the other Goon candidates... will you continue your obstinacy (did I use that word correctly) and voice your own opinion, even if it does conflict with what the other Goons want?
Obstinate, stubborn, and independent are good ways to describe me, and especially my posts.
If anything, my goal is to bring an economics into the discussion to all of the CSM proposals and meetings. That's not limited to things that are purely economics, but includes any discussion on any topic related to the game. In that way, its not a matter of being for or against any particular desires that the 0.0 block may have, but a matter of changing the frame of discussion when the CSM debates and presents those issues.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.02 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Manalapan
So, you don't deny that you will likely be pushing your 0.0 blocks agenda? You also presume that no other candidate knows anything about economics. 
I didn't deny anything. I'm also bad at answering questions posed with double negatives.
I'm not part of the 0.0 plot to take over the CSM. I'm part of the Kalrand Thinks The Economy Should Be Paid Attention To plot to take over the CSM.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.03 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain
Can you give us an example of how you would deal with CCP from an economical perspective? Specifically, suppose that this discussion about implementing fish tanks in Eve was actually taking place in Iceland (or in the private forums) between a CCP serious about implementing the idea and the CSM. What would be your opinion, how would you react, and how would you work with CCP as the idea was being brought to fruition?
In all honesty, crap like fishtanks in your captain's quarters seems like perfect stuff for CCP to focus their efforts on micro-plex in game purchases. They've made it clear that they intend to start doing those things, and something innocuous like this might be the right outlet.
It's the perfect example of something that has no effect on the game economy, won't change a player's performance, and People Might Like. Why not? Hopefully they don't need to jam five developers on it for months at a time.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.03 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: Kalrand on 03/03/2011 22:36:57
Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain
You seem to be implying that such a feature, if implemented, would have to be entirely isolated from in-game items of worth, such as lootable fish upgrades and items that could be bought and sold for ISK.
Please elaborate or clarify your stance on this issue.
I'm making the broad assumption that the decorations in your captains quarters don't give you some kind of a buff while piloting your ship. Lootable fish upgrades seems quite silly, but could replace the stupid useless loot that drops on some missions now.
Being tradeable for isk itself isn't a problem, being a substitute good for something already in the game would be. Anything that can be bough or sold using Plex or whatever mechanic CCP comes up with to separate people from the contents of their wallet should have no effect on their abilities in game when it comes to their interaction with the large game.
If people want to log in to stare at a fish tank, then good for them.
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