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BlackSparrowHawk
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Posted - 2011.02.28 11:07:00 -
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I'm using an arbitrator for low sec exploration (just for the mean time while i cross train for ishtar). With an arbi, all of my damage is coming from my t2 Hammerheads. I was playing around with my fit to increase drone damage by as much as possible.
Now looking at eve wiki (Drone upgrades info) Drone Navigation Computer and Omniderctional Tracking Link both indirectly contribute to damage. Looking at various drone boats setups i've noticed that Omni's are used more for heavy drones (sentrys in particular). What i'd like to know is which of the two modules will benefit me more in the damage department. Since i only have one medium slot remaining.
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Belthazor4011
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Posted - 2011.02.28 12:27:00 -
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Since you are using Med drones the Omni will be best
The other just increases speed and thats only really needed with Heavy drones.
Still the extra speed makes them overshoot the first few shots as well so its more likely to hurt DPS then improve it.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2011.02.28 14:09:00 -
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What above guy said.
There is only one reason for swapping the omnidirectional for a drone nav comp, when NOT using sentries but heavies only. From the top of my head there is a L4 out there where everything is thrown on top of you (canŠt remember the name).
All the others - omnidirectional.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.02.28 15:19:00 -
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Huh. This isn't as obvious as the first few replies seem to make it out to be.
Since we're talking low sec exploration in an Arbitrator with a spare mid I'm assuming you're mostly range tanking with a touch of armor for good measure -- but probably just a touch as you're not in dire need of capacitor, which would be another effective use of that spare mid.
But see, here's the deal. You're never going to get over that set, what is it, 233 DPS? And Hammerhead IIs are going to apply the majority of that to frigates as well as larger ships. They are slow though, and when you're already kiting travel time can be an issue. So the question quickly becomes this: given the enemies you expect to face on a regular basis, would it be better to apply a higher percentage of your theoretical DPS to frigates or would you rather have them start hitting red crosses sooner, taking out non-frigates more quickly while taking a bit more time on frigates? Former: use an omni. Latter: use a DNC. In this situation they're both pretty valid choices.
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Cyniac
Gallente Twilight Star Rangers
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Posted - 2011.02.28 16:32:00 -
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Depends a lot on your fighting style, and as has been stated clearly by Zhilia this is by no means a clear cut question. I agree with his assessment but here are a few other factors to consider:
Your fighting style - can make a difference, more kiting would mean that nav computers are good for you.
Also Nav Computers does something that the Omni does not - increase drone survivability by reducing time needed to get back to your ship and safety. This may be something you can neglect if you operate out of a well stocked base or become critical if you roam far into unknown or unfriendly territory.
For the record there is another module which also helps drones apply their DPS (though it does not increase it) - Target painters, with the added advantage that TPs will also help other weapon systems apply their damage.
In practice I'd probably just grab both modules, try them out and figure out what felt best for me though, rather than think too much about it.
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BlackSparrowHawk
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Posted - 2011.02.28 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zhilia Mann Huh. This isn't as obvious as the first few replies seem to make it out to be.
Since we're talking low sec exploration in an Arbitrator with a spare mid I'm assuming you're mostly range tanking with a touch of armor for good measure -- but probably just a touch as you're not in dire need of capacitor, which would be another effective use of that spare mid.
But see, here's the deal. You're never going to get over that set, what is it, 233 DPS? And Hammerhead IIs are going to apply the majority of that to frigates as well as larger ships. They are slow though, and when you're already kiting travel time can be an issue. So the question quickly becomes this: given the enemies you expect to face on a regular basis, would it be better to apply a higher percentage of your theoretical DPS to frigates or would you rather have them start hitting red crosses sooner, taking out non-frigates more quickly while taking a bit more time on frigates? Former: use an omni. Latter: use a DNC. In this situation they're both pretty valid choices.
Correct, i mostly keep at range and speed tank. An arbi is great for high sec and some low sec stuff. The t2 drones more or less clear everything out. It's just some sites like the DED 4/10 site (Multaz Monastery or whatever) that takes a little long - Doable!- just a tad bit long. Was hoping there was some way of increasing my dps somehow.... Guess i'll just wait for for my ishtar skills.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.02.28 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: BlackSparrowHawk Correct, i mostly keep at range and speed tank. An arbi is great for high sec and some low sec stuff. The t2 drones more or less clear everything out. It's just some sites like the DED 4/10 site (Multaz Monastery or whatever) that takes a little long - Doable!- just a tad bit long. Was hoping there was some way of increasing my dps somehow.... Guess i'll just wait for for my ishtar skills.
Not to totally state the obvious, but what are you using your high slots for? A gun or two -- or even a missile launcher -- would (obviously) be the most clear cut way of boosting your damage.
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BlackSparrowHawk
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Posted - 2011.02.28 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zhilia Mann
Originally by: BlackSparrowHawk Correct, i mostly keep at range and speed tank. An arbi is great for high sec and some low sec stuff. The t2 drones more or less clear everything out. It's just some sites like the DED 4/10 site (Multaz Monastery or whatever) that takes a little long - Doable!- just a tad bit long. Was hoping there was some way of increasing my dps somehow.... Guess i'll just wait for for my ishtar skills.
Not to totally state the obvious, but what are you using your high slots for? A gun or two -- or even a missile launcher -- would (obviously) be the most clear cut way of boosting your damage.
I use 1 beam II laser to snipe and agro, then set my drones on them. If they come too close or i'm getting smothered by npcs then i pulse my mwd.
In high slots i have bean II, salvager for the odd faction spawns, improved cloaking and probe scanner.
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Veebring Greetings
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Posted - 2011.02.28 20:15:00 -
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Turn on the log during combat, it shows the drone damage messages since the last patch.
Then you can see that drones get a lot of marginal hits without omnilinks. It takes two of them to reach good hit quality and an increase in effective dps.
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