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Leyla Anshley
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Posted - 2005.02.01 18:38:00 -
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well.. it seems lik devs really don't like interceptors...
First was crow: after i lost ability to fit AB10 on it, i trained for crusader. but now it seems like crusader becoming same sux.
i have used this setup for crusader: 2x Dual Light Pulse Laser II's 2x Dual Modulated Pulse Lasers in high, MWD II and named warp scrambler 20 km in med, small armor rep II, 2x named Caprelays and Heat Sink II in low. PG was 50/50 and CPU was 124/125. But today after patch i have found, that MWD II now need 18 MW... and i don't have 3 PG for this setup now. I tried to replace armor rep II for named one tech I, but anyway don't have 1MW... if i'll try to fit Micro Aux Core, i don't have CPU then.
and now i want to ask: why? Why i can't fit tech II now? for what? Use tech I? nah.. thanx. I feel like i'm degenerating myself...
BTW: inters was allways my favorite ships... and now i'm despleasing with all these changings.
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Konstas
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Posted - 2005.02.01 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Konstas on 01/02/2005 18:44:24
As usual, annoying nerf. I, too, find myself strapped for PG in most of my inty set ups. Tech 1 MWDs are starting to look a lot better now.
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Jarmon Karlentis
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Posted - 2005.02.01 18:43:00 -
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What? So you are one of these people who has to have t2 everything? Get over yourself.
That said if you are that set on using the t2 mwd, fit a reactor control unit on one of the lows. Problem(?) sorted.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2005.02.01 18:51:00 -
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Swap a cap relay for a PDS
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Buraken v2
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Posted - 2005.02.01 18:57:00 -
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So what?
Why are you whining like you are the ONLY one that has this problem?
Now EVERYONE has to change their setup, so its not only your ship that needs to be re-configured, EVERYBODY needs to do it, so your all one the same boat
whine whine whine, thats all you morons do best. I think i've never seen a post on the forums that genuinly thank the devs and gm's and everybody that made this game what it is.
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:00:00 -
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I personally would wine because it plain sucks not being able to use all mods tech II on a Tech II ship.
I would understand on a Tech 1 ship. I would also understand if it ALWAYS had been the same, but I HATE IT when stuff gets nerfed without any reason...
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Vampire Blade
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:01:00 -
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but why should we? it seems as if they've already ruined the ship balance and now bship only fleets are fashionable again ;)
i don't mind, as this limits the firepower of interceptors somewhat, it was a needed change. but my claw was already regarded as a "gimped" interceptor to begin with, the only successful setup i know on the claw has just been gimped. i used this claw for only one thing - anti frigate.
however, the crow, the ship that can use one setup to do anything has evaded the nerfbat. /o/
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Jarmon Karlentis
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Andrew Redburn
I personally would wine because it plain sucks not being able to use all mods tech II on a Tech II ship.
I would understand on a Tech 1 ship. I would also understand if it ALWAYS had been the same, but I HATE IT when stuff gets nerfed without any reason...
Erm, you can use all T2 stuff on a T2 ship........
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ponieus
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: DEVILSENIGMA
Edited by: DEVILSENIGMA on 01/02/2005 18:47:48
Fit a damn Power Diagnostic Unit on it and stop whining.
no offense but a PDU on a frig?.. I mean seriously.. waste of a low slot..
I personally dont get the nerf.. We spend loads of time to use the ship.. Then loads of time to use the Tech2 items and then loads of time to find a fitting that works perfect..
Then comes in CCP with the nerf bat and sends us all back to square one in less than the span of 3 hours.. wtf..
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BigJim Beef
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: DEVILSENIGMA
Edited by: DEVILSENIGMA on 01/02/2005 18:47:48
Fit a damn Power Diagnostic Unit on it and stop whining.
Power diags use more cpu, which the original poster already stated was at a premium.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Damajink
Swap a cap relay for a PDS
Okay. Now how I do I deal with my far lower cap recharge, given the inreased cap usage of the MWDII's in this patch ANYWAY?
Answers on a postcard please.
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ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:33:00 -
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what is annoying is that this change is not metioned in the patch notes...
it states that T2 MWD and AB now use 10% more cap than T1 items, but it doesn't state that they will use more grid... plus that would be 20% more grid in this case...
I also don't quite see the need for CCP to constantly screw around with the numbers... I don't mind doing new ship setups... that's one of the parts I enjoy most in Eve, what I mind is that it seems that CCP has no clear line of thought on where they are going with the game... changes are being made in random places, no obvious reasons, in the meantime, lots of glaring bugs riddle the game to near unplayability in fleet combat.
Maybe they need a few less people in 'ship balancing' and a few more that can actually write code... or fix the code they already have.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:38:00 -
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I need to buy a crow. The MWD II change means its the fastest interceptor with decent weapons (yay for weapons which use 3 powergrid). The new velocity bonus means its the longest ranged interceptor, and the missiles intercept much better.
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Miss Awful
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Posted - 2005.02.01 20:28:00 -
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WTF was wrong with the prepatch mwd-requirements ? Wasnt there enought penalty ?
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Reite
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Posted - 2005.02.01 20:34:00 -
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I got the soulution! its a secret though, so cant tell anyone..
Ahh well, ok, 1mn MWD 1!
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Spuki
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Posted - 2005.02.01 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Reite
I got the soulution! its a secret though, so cant tell anyone..
Ahh well, ok, 1mn MWD 1!
Hmm, let me guess what you are trying to tell us here. You, as a antifrig thorax pilot, like the changes?
Fitting Tech1 mwd for a ceptor is like filling you drone bay with mining drones in pvp.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.02.01 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Spuki
Originally by: Reite
I got the soulution! its a secret though, so cant tell anyone..
Ahh well, ok, 1mn MWD 1!
Hmm, let me guess what you are trying to tell us here. You, as a antifrig thorax pilot, like the changes?
Fitting Tech1 mwd for a ceptor is like filling you drone bay with mining drones in pvp.
right...
all other tech II modules use more cpu/pg then tech I versions, why shouldnt MWD and AB do it 2...
cant fit MWD II use I or some named...
intys got another bonus now so stop whining...
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Bellicose
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Posted - 2005.02.01 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowHawk
maybe they need a few less people in 'ship balancing' and a few more that can actually write code... or fix the code they already have.
seconded 
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P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.02.01 21:14:00 -
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Quote:
all other tech II modules use more cpu/pg then tech I versions, why shouldnt MWD and AB do it 2...
i think he hit the nail on the head ... last i looked tech 2 variants of mods have greater fitting requirments, it was just mwd 2 and ab 2 that did not
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.02.01 21:19:00 -
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How about micro auxiliary power core II? Is that in game yet?
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.02.01 23:01:00 -
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Nope.
Not only that, named micro aux's are VERY VERY rare and expensive. If they were avaliable, I'd be a lot calmer tonight
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.02.01 23:50:00 -
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So a fix to this is that CCP releases the t2 micro aux powercore bp. I always thought it made sense that t2 modules used more power and cpu. So when you use t2 items you are forced to use t2 grid and cpu enhancing modules.
So instead of asking for unnerfing t2 mwd you should actually be asking for t2 mapc.
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.02.02 00:40:00 -
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In that case, it would be nice if they released CPR IIs as well.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.02.02 00:48:00 -
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Either way would work. I'd settle for more named MAPC's, as I said..
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.02.02 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Either way would work. I'd settle for more named MAPC's, as I said..
Vigor's use 4 more cpu then standard Maya
It's one of those things that gives you the pg you want but leaves you a few cpu short.
Nice huh
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Surly Bob
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Posted - 2005.02.02 06:14:00 -
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Ok, I can either train up millions of SP to fly slow nerfed-all-to-hell frigates with crap speed, because I have to use tech1 ABs and crap weapons, because I have no powergrid, or I can just fly a Raven like everyone else in Eve.
Bah, I guess I'll stop fighting it. Frigs are obsolete in Eve. *changes evasive manuevering to caldari cruiser*
Yep, once I get my tanked out BS, I'll be unstoppable, since the only thing that can possibly hurt me is another BS, and I can just log if that gets to be a problem. Apparently, this is what they call "balanced gameplay" in Iceland.
*spits on latest patch*
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2005.02.02 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vampire Blade
but my claw was already regarded as a "gimped" interceptor to begin with, the only successful setup i know on the claw has just been gimped. i used this claw for only one thing - anti frigate.
The Claw is gimped? ooooookay, I'll get me coat.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2005.02.02 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jarmon Karlentis
What? So you are one of these people who has to have t2 everything? Get over yourself.
That said if you are that set on using the t2 mwd, fit a reactor control unit on one of the lows. Problem(?) sorted.
Hello mister clueless but this is more than "i just can't use the best tech 2 stuff on my ship now" case. There are inties that can use the same loadout as before while others have been gimped, forcing them to become weaker or slower... both unacceptable if other inties can maintain their speed and prowess.
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Phantom II
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Posted - 2005.02.02 08:25:00 -
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ffs CCP whats wrong with explaining the reason for the nerf before doing it and if you have plans to put out aux 2's then say so!!!
a nerf like this just ****es people off!
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.02.02 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
both unacceptable if other inties can maintain their speed and prowess.
Exactly
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