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Akama Lowe Wrecking Shots Black Legion. 0	Posted - 2012.08.26 10:15:00 - [1] - Quote So i've wondered what this was for since joining the game. I've waited for an expansion that would open it or explain more about it. Expected a new race of ships to add to the already existing, something that would be of a higher caliber because of the "lore" but would require something like all cruisers to 5 or a totally new skill tree that would have that as a prereq. Does anyone know if CCP is ever going to expand on this?
Adam Junior Protus Correction Facility Inc. Parental Discretion Advised. 40	Posted - 2012.08.26 11:22:00 - [2] - Quote Akama Lowe wrote: So i've wondered what this was for since joining the game. I've waited for an expansion that would open it or explain more about it. Expected a new race of ships to add to the already existing, something that would be of a higher caliber because of the "lore" but would require something like all cruisers to 5 or a totally new skill tree that would have that as a prereq. Does anyone know if CCP is ever going to expand on this? http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=11-02-05 Jove ships would be exceptionally OP If you want to learn more about the Jove, read Theodicy (short story on the website), Empyrean Age and Templar One.
Lucious Shazih Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2012.09.17 20:38:00 - [3] - Quote Quote: Jove ships would be exceptionally OP If you want to learn more about the Jove, read Theodicy (short story on the website), Empyrean Age and Templar One. http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=11-02-05 based on that link, i don't think they would be so OP... Seems like the Amarr sent an undersized force, were out maneuvered by the frigs, and had insufficient intel. Top top it off, a Jovian titan (or the equivalent of one) shoes up far out of range and starts using Dooms Day weapon on the amarrian fleet, which was pinned down by the jovian fast moving frigs. Great fight by the jovians... and also the only fight by them. They are obviously menuverable, have titans, and are good at putting out dps. They don't seem god like to me
Agent Akari Hobo Industries Inc Orbital Bombardmant 59	Posted - 2012.09.18 01:05:00 - [4] - Quote I find that the Jovians are there to keep the eve online francise going. Giving us hope and perhaps a goal to aim for. And in case eve online is going downhill, that Jovian update could be a backup plan.
Paul Oliver Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2903	Posted - 2012.09.18 01:11:00 - [5] - Quote Its a damn shame the coolest sounding race with the most alien looking ships isn't even playable. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine
TharOkha 0asis Group 49	Posted - 2012.09.18 05:47:00 - [6] - Quote Jove space is GM playground and jove ships are their toys. no more, no less. Jove=Jupiter=god of gods. GM in eve =something like gods in eve. Its just metaphor for their playground. Big coverup and conspiracy GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥
baltec1 Bat Country 2142	Posted - 2012.09.18 05:54:00 - [7] - Quote Lucious Shazih wrote: based on that link, i don't think they would be so OP... One of their frigates would rip apart any carrier we deploy. Jove ships are hell unleashed.
Paul Oliver Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2913	Posted - 2012.09.18 06:06:00 - [8] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Lucious Shazih wrote: based on that link, i don't think they would be so OP... One of their frigates would rip apart any carrier we deploy. Jove ships are hell unleashed. Yeah yeah, so they nerf the hek out of them and release them to the public, wouldn't be hard. I want a Visitant! "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine
William Walker House Aratus Fatal Ascension 79	Posted - 2012.09.18 06:20:00 - [9] - Quote Paul Oliver wrote: baltec1 wrote: Lucious Shazih wrote: based on that link, i don't think they would be so OP... One of their frigates would rip apart any carrier we deploy. Jove ships are hell unleashed. Yeah yeah, so they nerf the hek out of them and release them to the public, wouldn't be hard. I want a Visitant! It looks like a tick... Kill it with FIRE! Besides that, CCP should just have some kind of event where they all fly jovian ships and shoot people. Preferably in Jita.
baltec1 Bat Country 2142	Posted - 2012.09.18 06:37:00 - [10] - Quote William Walker wrote: It looks like a tick... Kill it with FIRE! Besides that, CCP should just have some kind of event where they all fly jovian ships and shoot people. Preferably in Jita. People still have bits of liver and such from the last Jove to visit.
Medarr ZeroSec Dragon Swarm Dynasty 40	Posted - 2012.09.18 07:21:00 - [11] - Quote Didnt they have to find stuff for that one that blew up... Aahh found it... Splodin Jovians...
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2012.09.18 12:21:00 - [12] - Quote baltec1 wrote: One of their frigates would rip apart any carrier we deploy. Jove ships are hell unleashed. Stats of their ships don't sound all that ridiculous while noone really mentioned releasing of Jove guns in addition to Jove ships
Yokai Mitsuhide Exiled Mining 3485	Posted - 2012.09.18 12:33:00 - [13] - Quote If not their ships, at least make them a playable race(character wise) Would be nice to have a few extra races to choose from.
Brooks Puuntai Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 748	Posted - 2012.09.18 12:45:00 - [14] - Quote Since CCP dumbed down the races and character creation, adding more races in means nothing. Also Jovians should never be added in especially as a playable race. They really should always be the mysterious unknown race they are today.
Nicholas Barker Reikoku The Retirement Club 4	Posted - 2012.09.18 14:50:00 - [15] - Quote Lucious Shazih wrote: Quote: Jove ships would be exceptionally OP If you want to learn more about the Jove, read Theodicy (short story on the website), Empyrean Age and Templar One. http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=11-02-05 based on that link, i don't think they would be so OP... Seems like the Amarr sent an undersized force, were out maneuvered by the frigs, and had insufficient intel. Top top it off, a Jovian titan (or the equivalent of one) shoes up far out of range and starts using Dooms Day weapon on the amarrian fleet, which was pinned down by the jovian fast moving frigs. Great fight by the jovians... and also the only fight by them. They are obviously menuverable, have titans, and are good at putting out dps. They don't seem god like to me From memory it says they're just motherships, but with rediculous capital weapons that just smash through everything. Also, everything seems to cloak.
Skippermonkey Tactical Knightmare 1413	Posted - 2012.09.18 17:00:00 - [16] - Quote Played about with Jove ships at fanfest 2011 concord still kill them when you shoot things you shouldnt in hisec and so... what you should be asking is when is CONCORD weaponry going to be available to pod pilots TK is recruiting
TheBreadMuncher Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance 312	Posted - 2012.09.18 17:53:00 - [17] - Quote Skippermonkey wrote: Played about with Jove ships at fanfest 2011 concord still kill them when you shoot things you shouldnt in hisec and so... what you should be asking is when is CONCORD weaponry going to be available to pod pilots What I'm going to ask is how CONCORD is more OP than the Jove when CONCORD is a product of the empires... "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Donnerjack Wolfson Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.09.18 18:25:00 - [18] - Quote TheBreadMuncher wrote: Skippermonkey wrote: Played about with Jove ships at fanfest 2011 concord still kill them when you shoot things you shouldnt in hisec and so... what you should be asking is when is CONCORD weaponry going to be available to pod pilots What I'm going to ask is how CONCORD is more OP than the Jove when CONCORD is a product of the empires... CONCORD has heavy Jovian support.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 1089	Posted - 2012.09.18 19:00:00 - [19] - Quote CCP needs the Jove to tease the playerbase when they are light on content for expansions. We'll know if the Winter expansion will be any good or not if CCP employees start talking more about the Jove in upcoming interviews. If there's so much as a screenshot of a Jove ship that comes out we know it's going to be a light expansion... Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items
Herping yourDerp Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 752	Posted - 2012.09.18 19:19:00 - [20] - Quote jove ships aren't really that much more powerful then other races. the playerbase has just repeated the rumors that 1 jove cruiser could kill 100s of battleships, when it isn't the case. no lore suggests any jove ship ( aside from the motherships) can be seriously broken. that said I don't really need them in the game. it would be nice to be able to use their space though.
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 907	Posted - 2012.09.18 20:17:00 - [21] - Quote Herping yourDerp wrote: jove ships aren't really that much more powerful then other races. the playerbase has just repeated the rumors that 1 jove cruiser could kill 100s of battleships, when it isn't the case. no lore suggests any jove ship ( aside from the motherships) can be seriously broken. http://youtu.be/Ag2bKpxvDx8 Jove battleship takes on a player fleet. Doesn't go below 80% shields. http://youtu.be/lHZdBkLDXvU Jove battleship takes on another player fleet... which has capitals. Its shields don't even struggle. Granted... those ships were flown by GM or DEVs... but take a moment to think of what'd you do with a ship that has... 8 high slots, 8 mid slots, 8 low slots, 8 launcher hardpoints, 8 turret hardpoints, 400 m3 of drone space, 125 m/bit of drone bandwidth, above average speed and agility for a battleship, and enough CPU and Powergrid to fit whatever T2/Faction/Officer mods of your choice and STILL have room to spare. I'm thinking dual ancillary, nano-fit with high resistances, decent buffer... and I'm torn between artillery or launchers. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 1089	Posted - 2012.09.18 20:29:00 - [22] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: Herping yourDerp wrote: jove ships aren't really that much more powerful then other races. the playerbase has just repeated the rumors that 1 jove cruiser could kill 100s of battleships, when it isn't the case. no lore suggests any jove ship ( aside from the motherships) can be seriously broken. http://youtu.be/Ag2bKpxvDx8 Jove battleship takes on a player fleet. Doesn't go below 80% shields. http://youtu.be/lHZdBkLDXvU Jove battleship takes on another player fleet... which has capitals. Its shields don't even struggle. Granted... those ships were flown by GM or DEVs... but take a moment to think of what'd you do with a ship that has... 8 high slots, 8 mid slots, 8 low slots, 8 launcher hardpoints, 8 turret hardpoints, 400 m3 of drone space, 125 m/bit of drone bandwidth, above average speed and agility for a battleship, and enough CPU and Powergrid to fit whatever T2/Faction/Officer mods of your choice and STILL have room to spare. I'm thinking dual ancillary, nano-fit with high resistances, decent buffer... and I'm torn between artillery or launchers. Having a GM shield extender probably helped... Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items
Solomunio Kzenig East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate 4	Posted - 2012.09.18 21:39:00 - [23] - Quote Agent Akari wrote: I find that the Jovians are there to keep the eve online francise going. Giving us hope and perhaps a goal to aim for. And in case eve online is going downhill, that Jovian update could be a backup plan. The moment you see Gé¼Gé¼P release the Jove (or Jove Ships) to EVE's playerbase you can be assured that EVE is on its last legs and/or Sony has bought Gé¼Gé¼P (which is the same difference).
Anya Ohaya School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 169	Posted - 2012.09.19 00:04:00 - [24] - Quote TharOkha wrote: Jove space is GM playground and jove ships are their toys. no more, no less. Jove=Jupiter=god of gods. GM in eve =something like gods in eve. Its just metaphor for their playground. Big coverup and conspiracy GM <> dev Jove space <> Dev space Jove ships <> GM ships.
Germaldi's Mum Aliastra Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.09.19 12:44:00 - [25] - Quote Adam Junior wrote: Akama Lowe wrote: So i've wondered what this was for since joining the game. I've waited for an expansion that would open it or explain more about it. Expected a new race of ships to add to the already existing, something that would be of a higher caliber because of the "lore" but would require something like all cruisers to 5 or a totally new skill tree that would have that as a prereq. Does anyone know if CCP is ever going to expand on this? http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=11-02-05 Jove ships would be exceptionally OP If you want to learn more about the Jove, read Theodicy (short story on the website), Empyrean Age and Templar One. the amarrians should have sent in the CFC/honey badgers to fight the jovians.... pl could have dropped 200+ supers on that jovian mom.
Germaldi's Mum Aliastra Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.09.19 12:46:00 - [26] - Quote Anya Ohaya wrote: TharOkha wrote: Jove space is GM playground and jove ships are their toys. no more, no less. Jove=Jupiter=god of gods. GM in eve =something like gods in eve. Its just metaphor for their playground. Big coverup and conspiracy GM <> dev Jove space <> Dev space Jove ships <> GM ships. DEV = gods of eve GM = gods of "logs show nothing"
Rogue Bomber Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division 16	Posted - 2012.09.19 14:24:00 - [27] - Quote Jove ships used to pop up now and again in new Eden on TQ!. Not anymore though cos CCP pretty much killed them all and started flying there ships around in SISI to annoy the hell out of us and stack them senseless with GM mods. Tbh we all go nuts when we see a polaris in TQ flown by a dev or a ISD. The jove race died many years ago and it was kinda killed off when we found that Jove space is actually the testing grounds for CCP and the Tourny. However in the BATTLE OF VAK'ATIOTH we did get a idea of the power that the Jove race can do using energy compensating defenses. Then obviously a mother ship that fires a ray so powerful it pretty much split through everything it fired upon. We had a screaming fantasy when a trailer was brought out with a baddon firing a doomsday type weapon giving us a hint that the amarr may have taken jove tec. The idea to bring Jove chars or ships would cause a melt down as players from 2003 beta could have had that char to start which could cause issues with the old school, then again we have had numerous nerf bats and there still here. I beleive if jove ships are made available apart from the jove ship we have already in eve it would be given to the highest trained chars and somthing for the younger chars to have a goal to hit. I think it would be an idea to re-open jove and have us poor souls fly there and get blapped senseless when we try to find there secrets. Would be fun :) However in the light of day its something to look forward to and thats one of the main reasons I stay in EvE. To be able to one day jump in a decent jove ship and go nuts
Lucious Shazih Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2012.09.20 23:46:00 - [28] - Quote Quote: http://youtu.be/Ag2bKpxvDx8 Jove battleship takes on a player fleet. Doesn't go below 80% shields. http://youtu.be/lHZdBkLDXvU Jove battleship takes on another player fleet... which has capitals. Its shields don't even struggle. Granted... those ships were flown by GM or DEVs... I always find it odd how GMs who are so adamant about "not restoring destroyed modules, etc..." and other things that might damage the balance of eve are still okay with going into the game flying ships using the most insane god-like modules... sure, it's because they can. But seems lame to me. Might aswell just say, "Trollolol i will destroy real hard earned assets with something i can spawn at will and cannot be destroyed." Might as well just show up in Jita, like someone else stated, and just destroy everyone flying about. Oh might as well DD the station and blow it up too with the one pod that has a doomsday on it heheh. And have countless cargo containers explode around the system with all of people's assets in it... The point that I'm kind of over-emphasizing is *any display of force by a jovian ship being piloted by a GM is simply a useless reference to explore the capabilities of jovian technology and it's mythology in the game... and what it truly would be within the realm of reason. They can do anything they want. Highly advanced battleships, cruisers and even frigates could be introduced that match jovian technology by introducing tech 3 versions of those ships ... and there you have it, maybe all jovian ships are tech 3.* I speculate that releasing jovian ships as playable content for players doesn't necessarily indicate a move of desperation for eve, although it could also be that way... *In the end, making jovian ships playable may be a natural evolution for the game, same with concord ships... lol*. I don't see why the hell not. Concord can be invulnerable still ... the only arbitrary mechanic that I'm willing to support!

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