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Phor Um Panala
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.26 22:57:00 -
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Just came back to the game after a ~3month break, and drones STILL randomly stop fighting?! Are you kidding me? Is this a god damn joke? Why hasn't this been fixed in 3 months?
Stop wasting ******* time with ****** Incarna station environments and fix your ******* game. Hire some programmers that don't suck, and fire the ****** ones you have now. FFS!
PS. I was originally going to post this with nicer wording but your web servers suck as much as the rest of the **** you guys do and it ate my post with some dumb error message. Jesus H. Christ, ******* failures in every aspect of this game and company. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
18
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Posted - 2011.09.26 23:20:00 -
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I hate to tell you this, but three months is nothing. Drones have been in varying states of brokenness since I started playing six years ago.... |
Phor Um Panala
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.26 23:26:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:I hate to tell you this, but three months is nothing. Drones have been in varying states of brokenness since I started playing six years ago....
Oh I know, despite the age of the toon I am using to post on the forums I have been playing since 2005. Just seems like something so major as drones just randomly stopping all activity would be pretty high up on the list of things to fix. |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2011.09.26 23:39:00 -
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Phor Um Panala wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:I hate to tell you this, but three months is nothing. Drones have been in varying states of brokenness since I started playing six years ago.... Oh I know, despite the age of the toon I am using to post on the forums I have been playing since 2005. Just seems like something so major as drones just randomly stopping all activity would be pretty high up on the list of things to fix.
Having a high priority does not mean it's easy to do. You have no idea what is causing the issue. It could be so deep in the code it might take years to fix.
And before you say it, lack of ccp response does not mean anything. I personally prefer they actually work on the game rather than coming for the forums every 5 minutes to update every little issue. |
Phor Um Panala
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 00:18:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:Phor Um Panala wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:I hate to tell you this, but three months is nothing. Drones have been in varying states of brokenness since I started playing six years ago.... Oh I know, despite the age of the toon I am using to post on the forums I have been playing since 2005. Just seems like something so major as drones just randomly stopping all activity would be pretty high up on the list of things to fix. Having a high priority does not mean it's easy to do. You have no idea what is causing the issue. It could be so deep in the code it might take years to fix. And before you say it, lack of ccp response does not mean anything. I personally prefer they actually work on the game rather than coming for the forums every 5 minutes to update every little issue.
My intention behind my post wasn't to get CCP to respond, I really couldn't care less if they ever post on these forums or do another dev blog. I just want them to fix the problems with their game, rather than waste time on features that most people don't seem to care about at all.
In fact, you've convinced me that it's time I let my wallet do the talking for me...if this issue isn't fixed by the time my game time lapses then I will just be done with Eve. |
Kesshisan
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Posted - 2011.09.27 01:57:00 -
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They can't fix Drones. If they fix Drones then they would be admitting that Gallente have a viable way to deal damage. We can't have that.
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beor oranes
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
11
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Posted - 2011.09.27 02:44:00 -
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Phor Um Panala wrote:My intention behind my post wasn't to get CCP to respond, I really couldn't care less if they ever post on these forums or do another dev blog. I just want them to fix the problems with their game, rather than waste time on features that most people don't seem to care about at all.
In fact, you've convinced me that it's time I let my wallet do the talking for me...if this issue isn't fixed by the time my game time lapses then I will just be done with Eve.
Meh mate. So many things are broken in this game its not even funny. But honestly I don't think they will drop everything and fix drones just because you are going to let your sub lapse. It sound to me like you are just looking for an excuse to quit, if not and Drones have made you quit then its probably best seen as there are much worse problems than Drones randomly attacking (or not) in the game.
I would like to know if CCP has an explanation to why the Drone AI is so poor and does some very random things. It would also be nice for them to not only acknowledge the problem but maybe put some commitment to fix them at some point in the future (not expecting near future but maybe eventually).
At least Drones kinda work, have you ever tried to use Defender Missiles?!
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Songbird
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 03:21:00 -
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If a piece of code doesn't work instead of fixing it they should maybe take it out and put new one in - programming has changed somewhat over the last 7-8 years.
And a simple idea - why not make a skill for drone programming(creature handler in SWG style) which after training will give you a new command with every level |
Riley Madison
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 03:34:00 -
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working as intended |
DigDoug
Amber Lamps Labs
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Posted - 2011.09.27 04:09:00 -
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I thought drones were intentionally quirky, isn't that part of their charm? |
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Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2011.09.27 04:37:00 -
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Songbird wrote:And a simple idea - why not make a skill for drone programming(creature handler in SWG style) which after training will give you a new command with every level
right click -> repair host ship |
beor oranes
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
12
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Posted - 2011.09.27 05:21:00 -
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DigDoug wrote:I thought drones were intentionally quirky, isn't that part of their charm?
Its why we have the Drone Regions...
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Izdazi
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:50:00 -
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DigDoug wrote:I thought drones were intentionally quirky, isn't that part of their charm? I thought this was it as well. I like my drones. I also like kicking my drones in the proverbial rear when they do, or don't, the things I intended. :P
In all seriousness, I appreciate having to keep an eye on my drones. It keeps me on my toes.
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Cunane Jeran
8
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Posted - 2011.09.27 17:23:00 -
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I enjoy the cheeky lil bastards not doing what they are meant to. 90% of the time they are fine, it's when your jammed and they are just returning to you with a derpy grin that annoys me now and again. |
Scorpionidae
63
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:09:00 -
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Funny I've never had this problem with drones before. Maybe you don't treat them well?
Scorpionidae 
If you see my sig... Like me plz? I feel unloved.
Every Day I be Trolling |
De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
7
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:16:00 -
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Phor Um Panala wrote:~rant~
You know fighters do this after every target on purpose. Be happy your drones don't have to be micromanaged all the time.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.09.27 20:20:00 -
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Cunane Jeran wrote:I enjoy the cheeky lil bastards not doing what they are meant to. 90% of the time they are fine, it's when your jammed and they are just returning to you with a derpy grin that annoys me now and again.
Labrador retrievers, all of them. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
45
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Posted - 2011.09.27 20:42:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Cunane Jeran wrote:I enjoy the cheeky lil bastards not doing what they are meant to. 90% of the time they are fine, it's when your jammed and they are just returning to you with a derpy grin that annoys me now and again. Labrador retrievers, all of them.
*a man is drowning in a river and his dog comes to the side of the embankment*
Man: *burble* *burble* A- HALP!!!
Lab: I found a stick!
Man: Get help boy!! Ge--*glug* --aaaalp!!
Lab: *cocks head to side* You throw stick?
Man: YOU MANGY MUTT!!! HELP ME!!!
Lab: STICK!!!
Man: --AAA--aaaa--- *glug* *burble* .......
Lab: ... no... stick...?
"Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one."
~Unknown |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.27 21:14:00 -
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What puzzles me about this is that it must surely be adding an unnecessary load to the server to have all drone users spamming the "attack" button.
I mean, for the individual player, it makes sense to spam "attack" as a matter of habit because it gets to the point you can't be bothered checking whether they've attacked or not, or whether they're no all "idle" or not, and you know that if you hit "attack" several times they will eventually obey.
Surely the devs would want to minimize that?
Easiest way to minimize it is to ensure that they obey on one keypress.
Bah, the ways of CCP are mysterious  |
DigDoug
Amber Lamps Labs
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Posted - 2011.09.27 22:21:00 -
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I just started multi-boxing missions. My primary grinds missions with a Paladin and I haven't really sat down to just do missions for a couple of years. The only reason I'm doing them is to grind up standing for datacore farming. Anywho, I have my secondary flying a Sentry Domi and I swap out for Warrior II's if any annoying frigs make it under the guns. It works out really well but I have noticed a couple of times that I have had to repeat myself to the light drones at times. This wasn't really that bothersome to me as I went to the shortcuts page and sure enough there is a shortcut key for "Drones attack!" ... there isn't really a ! but there should always be a '!' after the verb attack... if you're at all serious about it. Anyway, I just programed one of the thumb grid keys to be the 'Drones Attack!' button and it immediately became irrelevant how many times I had to repeat myself and it was just a matter of a slight adjustment in thumb pressure on the mouse. |
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kyrv
The Ghosts of Morsus Mihi.
The Remnant Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.28 09:03:00 -
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I always thought they had sentient ai and new better, really I think its a purpose like in everything in eve its a developers mind to make you interested, little things waste time envoke thought its a good idea if you want to imply small ideas.
Im sure its because they went to a lecture and heard about implanting subtle ideas into people kinda like a salesmans pitch.. or boiler room.
You get loads of these in computers Ifound recentally that the refresh box on ie is really small, then realised I got fish peticure banner and then a male uniform dating agency and then something to fdo with elderly woman poseing for cartoon pictures..
..So yah I naturelly switched to firefox to block banners with an addon, still the refresh buttons really small!
Basically it draws your attention to the computer.
[ctrl copy] |
Onictus
Legendary Knights
Vorpal's Edge
0
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Posted - 2011.09.28 11:33:00 -
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Heh
The drone AI is ********, my personal favorite is when I assign the drones, and they bounce to another target (usually a trigger) which makes missions like Serpentis Blockade LOTS of fun.
...and lol and blocking retardation |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
51
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Posted - 2011.09.28 12:00:00 -
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fixing drones would be simple: upgrade AI from jellyfish to insect.
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.09.29 00:37:00 -
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There are already threads on this, even one I started a some weeks ago in the issues forum.
A week or two ago a dev commented on another thread that gave me a shock.
I couldn't believe they had to ask what the issue is/when /where it starts. All you need to do is play the damn game and you can see within minutes it happening. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.29 01:28:00 -
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It's a feature. |
Dr Cedric
Orbital Industry and Research.
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Posted - 2011.09.29 02:12:00 -
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Phor Um Panala wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:Phor Um Panala wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:I hate to tell you this, but three months is nothing. Drones have been in varying states of brokenness since I started playing six years ago.... Oh I know, despite the age of the toon I am using to post on the forums I have been playing since 2005. Just seems like something so major as drones just randomly stopping all activity would be pretty high up on the list of things to fix. Having a high priority does not mean it's easy to do. You have no idea what is causing the issue. It could be so deep in the code it might take years to fix. And before you say it, lack of ccp response does not mean anything. I personally prefer they actually work on the game rather than coming for the forums every 5 minutes to update every little issue. My intention behind my post wasn't to get CCP to respond, I really couldn't care less if they ever post on these forums or do another dev blog. I just want them to fix the problems with their game, rather than waste time on features that most people don't seem to care about at all. In fact, you've convinced me that it's time I let my wallet do the talking for me...if this issue isn't fixed by the time my game time lapses then I will just be done with Eve.
Really..Nobody else yet? Well, here goes:
Before you un-sub, can I has your lootz!!!! :P |
Kesshisan
33
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Posted - 2011.09.29 06:58:00 -
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Dr Cedric wrote:Really..Nobody else yet? Well, here goes:
Before you un-sub, can I has your lootz!!!! :P
Nobody wants his loot; it's all drones and railguns.
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xenodia
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
0
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Posted - 2011.09.29 19:46:00 -
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Phor Um Panala wrote:In fact, you've convinced me that it's time I let my wallet do the talking for me...if this issue isn't fixed by the time my game time lapses then I will just be done with Eve.
Can i have your stuff ?
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Faraa Visteen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.30 17:47:00 -
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Phor Um Panala wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:Phor Um Panala wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:I hate to tell you this, but three months is nothing. Drones have been in varying states of brokenness since I started playing six years ago.... Oh I know, despite the age of the toon I am using to post on the forums I have been playing since 2005. Just seems like something so major as drones just randomly stopping all activity would be pretty high up on the list of things to fix. Having a high priority does not mean it's easy to do. You have no idea what is causing the issue. It could be so deep in the code it might take years to fix. And before you say it, lack of ccp response does not mean anything. I personally prefer they actually work on the game rather than coming for the forums every 5 minutes to update every little issue. My intention behind my post wasn't to get CCP to respond, I really couldn't care less if they ever post on these forums or do another dev blog. I just want them to fix the problems with their game, rather than waste time on features that most people don't seem to care about at all. In fact, you've convinced me that it's time I let my wallet do the talking for me...if this issue isn't fixed by the time my game time lapses then I will just be done with Eve.
CAN I HAZ YOUR STUFFZ ?
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Izziee
University of Izziee
2
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:07:00 -
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Phor Um Panala wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:Phor Um Panala wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:I hate to tell you this, but three months is nothing. Drones have been in varying states of brokenness since I started playing six years ago.... Oh I know, despite the age of the toon I am using to post on the forums I have been playing since 2005. Just seems like something so major as drones just randomly stopping all activity would be pretty high up on the list of things to fix. Having a high priority does not mean it's easy to do. You have no idea what is causing the issue. It could be so deep in the code it might take years to fix. And before you say it, lack of ccp response does not mean anything. I personally prefer they actually work on the game rather than coming for the forums every 5 minutes to update every little issue. My intention behind my post wasn't to get CCP to respond, I really couldn't care less if they ever post on these forums or do another dev blog. I just want them to fix the problems with their game, rather than waste time on features that most people don't seem to care about at all. In fact, you've convinced me that it's time I let my wallet do the talking for me...if this issue isn't fixed by the time my game time lapses then I will just be done with Eve.
Oh no! You're quitting?!?!?!?!
Whatever shall we do!!!
Can you tell that was sarcasm? |
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Phor Um Panala
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.12 00:27:00 -
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Izziee wrote:
Oh no! You're quitting?!?!?!?!
Whatever shall we do!!!
Can you tell that was sarcasm?
WOW SO ORIGINAL
YOU DESERVE AN AWARD FOR ORIGINALITY
DUMB PIECE OF **** |
Nimrod Nemesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.12 06:09:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:I hate to tell you this, but three months is nothing. Drones have been in varying states of brokenness since I started playing six years ago....
QFT
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Green Beans
Combat Pigs
5
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Posted - 2011.11.12 06:35:00 -
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Am I the only person in EVE who has drones that behave correctly? Well anyway, I will share my secrets in my new pamphlet, "The Green Beans' Guide To Purchasing, Using, and Caring for Automated Fighters (Drones)"
Chapter 1
Purchasing your Drone
In most, if not all, space stations have a market service. Open up the market service by clicking either the market box on the station services panel, or the market button on your neocom. Once you have it open, go to "search" and type in "Hobgoblin". The Hobgoblin is the favorite tech level 1 light scout drone of many people. Buy as many of these as desired, and then drag and drop the Hobgoblins into your ship's drone bay.
Chapter 2
Drones for Fighting
Drones are excellent assistants in a battle. Thankfully, using them is as simple as making a few clicks. First, be somewhere where you can shoot stuff. Next, find the drone bay panel on your HUD. If you have drones in your drone bay the panel will always be up somewhere. Next, right click the "Drones in Bay" button, and click "launch drones". Your drones will now be orbiting your ship! After that, lock onto your victim, and then right click "Drones in Space" (right below "Drones in Bay") and click "Engage Target". Watch your drones fly!* When you are done terrorizing your victim, right click "Drones in Space" and click "Return to Drone Bay". Your drones will return to you to fight another day.
*Tips and Tricks: You will have to use a stern voice or your drones might not listen to you! They are like children!
Chapter 3
Caring for your Drones
During your epic battle, your beloved drones might have sustained a few dings or dents, or might be missing a good chunk of armor. Have no fear! Simply return to a station, click the "Repair Shop" button on the station services panel, and click the drones you want to repair. Good as new!
Chapter 4
Enhancing your Drones
There are a variety of equipments for your ship that enhance your drones! Most of them are rigs that enhance drone damage, speed, or total hitpoints. There is also the Drone Link Augmenter module that increases the range that you can control your drones from. Groovy!
Afterword
I hope you enjoyed reading "Green Beans' Guide to Purchasing, Using, and Caring for Automated Fighters (Drones)" as much as I enjoyed writing it!
Wanna join a noob-friendly mission running corporation? Lookie here!-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=287334#post287334 |
Nephilius
Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.
25
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Posted - 2011.11.12 18:00:00 -
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I never have a problem with my drones. Maybe your drones don't like you...?
When I put the pack of toilet paper and-áa couple of-átwo liters-áof soda on the checkout counter, the cashier looked at me funny.-á I shrugged and told her I get thirsty sometimes when I poop. |
Fravas Malkavian
Company Co.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.12 19:00:00 -
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Phor Um Panala wrote:In fact, you've convinced me that it's time I let my wallet do the talking for me...if this issue isn't fixed by the time my game time lapses then I will just be done with Eve.
Can I have your stuff?
What a strange game. The only winning move is not to play. |
DetKhord Saisio
Unchained Potential
Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2011.11.12 19:21:00 -
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Riley Madison wrote:working as intended
Actually, this probably hit the mark on most of the "features' of EVE. Realism often can be found in things simulating real life, and the last time I looked there is nothing produced by humans that is perfect every time. Not sure if that is supposed to have changed in a few hundred thousand years of human evolution or whatever timeframe EVE exists. But seems having the sandbox and "eating your cake" do not quite fit together.
Though, one of the problems with literally thousands of game features is the coding errors will be that much harder to find in all that extra code. Every time another person rage quits, that means less income CCP has to work with. Just does not add up... something's got to give. I would think until subscriptions increase again, you may want to say goodbye to your last hope drones or any other broken feature will ever get fixed by CCP.
I personally feel EVE is dead or soon will be... unless CCP can come up with some tremendous idea to fix everything like yesterday and somehow reverse the slow and steady onslaught of un-subs. |
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