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Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.14 20:41:00 - [31] Enough of this inner-militia trashing. Mara wants to build a site to entertain him/someone else, let him. Making fun of someone trying to bring some new eyes and ears to militia is just stupid. Let him do his thing, you do yours. If you don't have anything nice to say, make sure you're talking to the amarrians. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.14 22:49:00 - [32] Originally by: Karl Planck Edited by: Karl Planck on 14/03/2011 14:32:24 Edited from MY ignorant post I hope IFW is having fun with eve-uni. You are correct that there are things they aren't learning, however I think is a sign of many new players rather than the teachings. New players are extremely accident prone and we all know how long it takes to get a real feel for pvp. And TRIAD/mara, keep the up pew pew, I enjoy our encounters (i am still laughing about that 3 man gang vs my griffen and no kills by you guys) You owe me .09 sec status. I tested this on a -9.2 corpmate (he did not aggro anything) and I took a GCC from repping him, subsequently taking gate gun fire and a sec status hit. Shows just how unfamiliar I am with GCC mechanics in lowsec since it's almost NEVER an issue in our fleets. Originally by: Mara Abraham Greetings Sneaky Noob: It looks like you are emotional stamp collecting rather than leaving go -- forgiving or otherwise. That usually leads to bad moods and bad health. Please get over it, move on, be healthy, and have fun rather than being mad. ### Recent war front news - IFW apparently tired of losing ships to new players, and upset their smack wasn't getting to Eve Uni, decided to double their fleet size with OOC reppers. Thank you. Mara, I speak for myself and my corporation when I ask you to stop spreading false unsubstantiated rumors about IFW, such as the ones you have posted in this thread: http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=39351 For the record: a) IFW has never hired anyone to do any of our killing. b) Killing the "target caller" or the FC in our fleets is pretty much impossible, since we ALL have the skills and know-how to take over a fleet if needed. As a matter of fact, this ability is something that has caused friction with some of the "less intellectually inclined" members of our militia, since we don't hold hands and coddle them. c) Everyone uses OOC alts in wartime. That is all, carry on. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.14 23:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Mara Abraham Eve Uni tends to have among the best FC's -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Chimaira wolf Minmatar Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.14 23:38:00 - [34] We took on a 1600 pilot corp cause we were bored. We fight roughly 8 vs 100+ and enjoying it. E uni are having fun killing our sexy ships. We are having fun fighting against the odds/ECM. everybody wins wahh. Applebabe
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 00:37:00 - [35] Good day, Sneaky Noob: Nothing false has been posted. While one IFW run fleet did shoot up my dramiel after I participated (solo) in several of the engagements, that was once and done. There were no multiple engagements and the kill board shows it. While many do believe it is ok to loot wrecks you've helped to create, I did apologize as I would rather peace overall. Since that apology, I've made it a point to do my best to stay away from IFW areas of attack unless I was there first (like last night in Dal); and even then to stay away from loot where IFW was on the field. There are some IFW members who have a hard time letting go of the past; I cannot help that. However, be that as it may, I do share my admiration of many IFW pilots who fly well. Back to the blog, http://www.factionalwarfare.info/2011/03/t-r-i-a-d-member-defends-abudban-in-mammoth/ -- one of our T.R.I.A.D. members and a good strategist took out an Amarrian WT in a battle mammoth. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 01:45:00 - [36] Good day Anzwithbeard: http://omgazn.blogspot.com/ -- good job mate. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.15 01:49:00 - [37] Originally by: Mara Abraham Nothing false has been posted. HMM.. Originally by: Mara Abraham From time to time IFW militia members have purposely shot friendly militia members (going GCC). From time to time they have also helped the Amarr locate friendly militia members on their "bad list" so the Amarr could take them out to avoid Militia FW standing hits. GGC militia members? like your self for instance? you mean the incident you have amitted fault in and asked all involved to forgive and forget? not exacly false, but how you have implied it is. As to helping the armarr? lol. flat out lie, screen shot or it didnt happen. mara just give up as sneaky recommended. your continued efforts to slander IFW are just digging the hole your in deeper and deeper. as well as creating stink for yor current corperation, as flattering your consistent attention is
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 03:25:00 - [38] Good day, Jasper: When you can show a KM where I was involved in shooting at a friendly Militia member that is API verified, I would like to see it. I stand by what I posted; and it is not slander. Part of rolling with the punches, Jasper is taking both good and bad. IFW has a lot of good about it; and like everything else, some bad.... I do believe the good out shadows the bad... but if you and Sneaky want to continue highlighting areas that is bad claiming it either doesn't exist or is good... well that's your business. Jasper on the dramiel instance, I've shared that people have different points of view with some believing that if they are on field killing targets that some of the loot of those targets belong to those who helped. I shared that I apologized putting IFW in the situation where they felt they had to go GCC (giving kill rights) me in order to get the loot a dramiel can carry. I did so because I would rather peace than the continued harassment; and even long after the apology, IFW members seem to hang on rather than move on. IFW has done a lot for the Minmatar Militia; and can continue doing so as it operates as a team which requires communication and mutual agreement. I do believe the war is wrong; and I've stated way. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.15 03:55:00 - [39] Again, you have your head so far up your own ass it is unbelievable. I was referring to you saying that what you posted was not lies, where is the kill that we (IFW) gcc'd a fellow militia (that did not provoke such actions ie yahoo, mara, aldorf etc) And you saying that we collude with the amarr to kill friendlyÆs; kindly provide proof or you are in fact lying about and slandering IFW. something i demand a public apology on. And as for the dramial incident, if you feel the need to explain what happened please explain it in full: 1.You where warned multiple times to donÆt loot kills from our 10-20man fleet. 2.You continued to loot after multiple warning, on kills that you HAD NOTHING to do with, but landed on grid as they poped. 3.The time you got ur ass ded was when you again LOOTED kills not yours and the best part is while ACTIVE war targets where still on field and our fleet was still fighting. 4. profit?????
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.15 14:44:00 - [40] Originally by: Mara Abraham IFW has done a lot for the Minmatar Militia; and can continue doing so as it operates as a team which requires communication and mutual agreement. I do believe the war is wrong; and I've stated way. Fine. We're simply stating that we don't care what you think. If IFW has, by your own admission, done "a lot" for the Militia as a whole, don't you think your time would be better spent trying to understand what they do an why they do it instead of slandering them at every opportunity? The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.15 15:03:00 - [41] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: Mara Abraham IFW has done a lot for the Minmatar Militia; and can continue doing so as it operates as a team which requires communication and mutual agreement. I do believe the war is wrong; and I've stated way. Fine. We're simply stating that we don't care what you think. If IFW has, by your own admission, done "a lot" for the Militia as a whole, don't you think your time would be better spent trying to understand what they do an why they do it instead of slandering them at every opportunity? ... IT'S LIBEL! IT'S MOTHER***ING LIBEL! IT'S IN A PERMANENT MEDIUM, WHERE-AS SLANDER* IS ON A GODDAMN TEMPORARY MEDIUM (i.e., spoken)> /RAGE *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 16:42:00 - [42] Originally by: Azelor Delaria IT'S LIBEL! IT'S MOTHER***ING LIBEL! IT'S IN A PERMANENT MEDIUM, WHERE-AS SLANDER* IS ON A GODDAMN TEMPORARY MEDIUM (i.e., spoken)> /RAGE -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 18:47:00 - [43] Greetings: Jesus is so awesome. I just had to laugh over the mistake of libel vs. slander. It's been neat watching http://killboard.eveuniversity.org/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=10078 While not by a large margin, it appears Eve University is winning. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 19:08:00 - [44] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 19:08:37 Originally by: Mara Abraham While not by a large margin, it appears Eve University is winning. Let me summarize: IFW has lost 52 ships to Ivy. Ivy has lost 158 ships to IFW. IFW engages with 2-3 man gangs, and Ivy with 40 man gangs. Yes, Eve Uni is pure Sheen winning. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
tagen young Caldari The Night Witch	Posted - 2011.03.15 20:56:00 - [45] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 19:08:37 Originally by: Mara Abraham While not by a large margin, it appears Eve University is winning. Let me summarize: IFW has lost 52 ships to Ivy. Ivy has lost 158 ships to IFW. IFW engages with 2-3 man gangs, and Ivy with 40 man gangs. Yes, Eve Uni is pure Sheen winning. -Liang I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 21:04:00 - [46] Originally by: tagen young I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber. Comments: - The ISK losses by each side is roughly equal. Definitely within a margin of error. - IFW is engaging with 10% of the numbers the other side has and getting far more numerical kills. - IFW has nailed 40 pods. Assuming they're all cheapskates running with only +3s, that's 4B ISK in losses (neglecting clone costs). - Ivy isn't fully composed of people of low SP. The problem is that they're PVP noobs - and Ivy isn't doing anything meaningful about it. - TBH, IFW is giving the Ivy guys more education than they were likely to receive in a hundred years in Ivy. Ivy used to know and embrace this. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 21:31:00 - [47] Greetings: Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 3.27B IFW / BSP: Damage received (ISK): 2.44B From an ISK perspective ahead. And given pod kills made by Eve University... not sure as they got a number of WT pods. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
tagen young Caldari The Night Witch	Posted - 2011.03.15 22:10:00 - [48] I think IFW seem to be doing a good job with their lack of numbers. This doesnt surprise me at all. The idea that the uni pods average 100m each is pretty insane though.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 22:16:00 - [49] Originally by: Mara Abraham Greetings: Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 3.27B IFW / BSP: Damage received (ISK): 2.44B From an ISK perspective ahead. And given pod kills made by Eve University... not sure as they got a number of WT pods. Thank you. The numbers at the top don't make sense. Consider: E-Uni (50.13% Efficiency (ISK)) vs IFW Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 54 Ships killed (2.43B ISK), 16 Pod kills IFW: Damage done (ISK): 164 Ships killed (2.41B ISK), 40 Pod kills E-Uni (32.68% Efficiency (ISK)) vs BPS Eve University: 6 Ships killed (0.85B ISK),0 Pod kills BlackSite Prophecy: 66 Ships killed (1.75B ISK), 6 Pod kills IFW+BSP = 2.41B+1.75B = 4.16B + 46 Pod kills Eve-Uni = 2.41B+0.85B = 3.26B + 16 Pod kills 4.16B vs 3.26B is a pretty far cry from your 3.27B vs 2.44B -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
tagen young Caldari The Night Witch	Posted - 2011.03.15 22:43:00 - [50] Edited by: tagen young on 15/03/2011 22:43:42 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Mara Abraham Greetings: Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 3.27B IFW / BSP: Damage received (ISK): 2.44B From an ISK perspective ahead. And given pod kills made by Eve University... not sure as they got a number of WT pods. Thank you. The numbers at the top don't make sense. Consider: E-Uni (50.13% Efficiency (ISK)) vs IFW Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 54 Ships killed (2.43B ISK), 16 Pod kills IFW: Damage done (ISK): 164 Ships killed (2.41B ISK), 40 Pod kills E-Uni (32.68% Efficiency (ISK)) vs BPS Eve University: 6 Ships killed (0.85B ISK),0 Pod kills BlackSite Prophecy: 66 Ships killed (1.75B ISK), 6 Pod kills IFW+BSP = 2.41B+1.75B = 4.16B + 46 Pod kills Eve-Uni = 2.41B+0.85B = 3.26B + 16 Pod kills 4.16B vs 3.26B is a pretty far cry from your 3.27B vs 2.44B -Liang Quoted to prevent edit I'm sure somebody, most probably Mara will point out your error.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 22:52:00 - [51] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 22:55:34 Originally by: tagen young Quoted to prevent edit I'm sure somebody, most probably Mara will point out your error. The most important thing to see is that IFW is holding their own against 10x the numbers. They are not losing by more than a billion ISK. Also, Eve-Uni is a steaming pile of ** that couldn't teach their members to PVP if their lives depended on it. Even their instructors tend to be epic fail PVPers. -Liang Ed: Also, I'm well past giving a if I ed up on Eve-O. Wheeee, a page that has a layout gets misinterpreted on the interwebz! Also, for the life of me I'm not seeing where it's coming up with E-Uni only losing 2.44B ISK when IFW has killed 2.41 by themselves. Actually, I know how it happened. Meh, they're still kicking ass for engaging at 10:1 numbers. -- Eve Forum *** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 01:35:00 - [52] Edited by: Sneaky Noob on 16/03/2011 01:41:03 Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: Mara Abraham IFW has done a lot for the Minmatar Militia; and can continue doing so as it operates as a team which requires communication and mutual agreement. I do believe the war is wrong; and I've stated way. Fine. We're simply stating that we don't care what you think. If IFW has, by your own admission, done "a lot" for the Militia as a whole, don't you think your time would be better spent trying to understand what they do an why they do it instead of slandering them at every opportunity? ... IT'S LIBEL! IT'S MOTHER***ING LIBEL! IT'S IN A PERMANENT MEDIUM, WHERE-AS SLANDER* IS ON A GODDAMN TEMPORARY MEDIUM (i.e., spoken)> /RAGE You are correct. I have edited my post. Thank you. On a related note I have yet to find any credible online resource that clarifies if online chatting and/or blogging falls under the pretenses of slander or libel. From what I've read so far, blogging is, for the most part, considered libel but chatting is much more difficult to define. I'd look some more but I honestly don't care. In any case, since the individual has used both blog-posting and chats AND voice comms to defame IFW, I will use both terms when referring to his lies and halucinations. Finally, It's nice to have your rage-filled, spittle-spewing anger posting back on the forums. I recently noticed you lost an Absolution, a Zealot and a Hookbill in less than 30 minutes no doubt in an attempt to "solo" the entire enemy battle fleet. While this loss streak is impressive, someone saw fit to lose even more ships that you did. In any case, my condolences for your loss. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 02:48:00 - [53] Edited by: jasper beamsalot on 16/03/2011 02:50:37 Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 22:55:34 Originally by: tagen young Quoted to prevent edit I'm sure somebody, most probably Mara will point out your error. The most important thing to see is that IFW is holding their own against 10x the numbers. They are not losing by more than a billion ISK. Also, Eve-Uni is a steaming pile of ** that couldn't teach their members to PVP if their lives depended on it. Even their instructors tend to be epic fail PVPers. -Liang Ed: Also, I'm well past giving a if I ed up on Eve-O. Wheeee, a page that has a ** layout gets misinterpreted on the interwebz! Also, for the life of me I'm not seeing where it's coming up with E-Uni only losing 2.44B ISK when IFW has killed 2.41 by themselves. Actually, I know how it happened. Meh, they're still kicking ass for engaging at 10:1 numbers. Name: Eve University Start date: 2011-03-10 Kills: 164 KILLS ISK (B): 2.41 Losses: 54 LOSSES ISK (B): 2.43 Efficiency: 49.87% Plus considering we have like 3x the number of kills i think the war dec is going very successfull thus far.
Azelor Delaria Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.03.16 03:53:00 - [54] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Finally, It's nice to have your rage-filled, spittle-spewing anger posting back on the forums. I recently noticed you lost an Absolution, a Zealot and a Hookbill in less than 30 minutes no doubt in an attempt to "solo" the entire enemy battle fleet. While this loss streak is impressive, someone saw fit to lose even more ships that you did. In any case, my condolences for your loss. I see someone failed to notice the fact that "/rage" was intended to show I was in a "joking" mood when posting. With that being said, you'll notice that those losses occurred in a fleet battle held in low sec between Amarr and Minmatar. You know, one of those things you complained we don't provide, hence your war dec against EVE Uni. I'll put this here. Oh, and this! Now, if only you guys would actually come and fight... *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Silence iKillYouu Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 04:29:00 - [55] Has mara Trained Advanced Trolling lvl 4 ?
Sharra Savente Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 05:01:00 - [56] Be careful what you wish for Azelor..... We all know the only reason your undocking is because IFW isnt around atm.
Dave Deadstar Minmatar Parsec Flux	Posted - 2011.03.16 06:34:00 - [57] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 19:08:37 Originally by: Mara Abraham While not by a large margin, it appears Eve University is winning. Eve Uni is pure Sheen winning. -Liang I support this cultural reference.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.16 07:52:00 - [58] Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 16/03/2011 07:56:57 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: tagen young I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber. Comments: - The ISK losses by each side is roughly equal. Definitely within a margin of error. - IFW is engaging with 10% of the numbers the other side has and getting far more numerical kills. - IFW has nailed 40 pods. Assuming they're all cheapskates running with only +3s, that's 4B ISK in losses (neglecting clone costs). - Ivy isn't fully composed of people of low SP. The problem is that they're PVP noobs - and Ivy isn't doing anything meaningful about it. - TBH, IFW is giving the Ivy guys more education than they were likely to receive in a hundred years in Ivy. Ivy used to know and embrace this. -Liang Just a few things I'd like to point out your first point - while looking at eve-uni campaign (here http://killboard.eveuniversity.org/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=10078) it seems at this time eve-uni is beating the combined BSP + IFW corporations by roughly a billion isk. your second point - yes, you're engaging with far more members then they are, and i salute you for it. as long as you're having fun who cares? your third point - you popping 40 pods with "cheapskate implants" for roughly 4bil isk (even tho im sure over 1/2 of their pods had no implants tbh) vs. them popping 16 of you probably NOT so "cheapskate" implants (snakes, crystals, +5s, etc).... TBH you should just be quiet on this front holmes...... your fourth point - no their not all low sp chars... just most of them... i don't know exactly what point you're trying to make here.... your fifth point - you're probably right, you're giving them a hell of a fight vs vastly smaller numbers, and again, as long as your having fun, who cares. My point #1 - this thread was about mara making a website for people to check out, and you ****heads turned it into a chest beating competition. tuck it back, no one wants to see how big it is. If you want to troll people your suppose to be fighting with against an enemy, please keep it in militia chat... that way more people can troll. My point #2 - You can only chest beat when you're winning. You are at the moment losing. get on that. Edit - not to worry amarr militia, OMGROFLSTOMP will be back haunting you in lowsec in the days to come. Just gotta finish cleaning up the nub pod splatter on my windshield. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Chimaira wolf Minmatar Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 09:19:00 - [59] Edited by: Chimaira wolf on 16/03/2011 09:27:22 Originally by: Aznwithbeard Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 16/03/2011 07:56:57 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: tagen young I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber. Comments: - The ISK losses by each side is roughly equal. Definitely within a margin of error. - IFW is engaging with 10% of the numbers the other side has and getting far more numerical kills. - IFW has nailed 40 pods. Assuming they're all cheapskates running with only +3s, that's 4B ISK in losses (neglecting clone costs). - Ivy isn't fully composed of people of low SP. The problem is that they're PVP noobs - and Ivy isn't doing anything meaningful about it. - TBH, IFW is giving the Ivy guys more education than they were likely to receive in a hundred years in Ivy. Ivy used to know and embrace this. -Liang Just a few things I'd like to point out your first point - while looking at eve-uni campaign (here http://killboard.eveuniversity.org/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=10078) it seems at this time eve-uni is beating the combined BSP + IFW corporations by roughly a billion isk. your second point - yes, you're engaging with far more members then they are, and i salute you for it. as long as you're having fun who cares? your third point - you popping 40 pods with "cheapskate implants" for roughly 4bil isk (even tho im sure over 1/2 of their pods had no implants tbh) vs. them popping 16 of you probably NOT so "cheapskate" implants (snakes, crystals, +5s, etc).... TBH you should just be quiet on this front holmes...... your fourth point - no their not all low sp chars... just most of them... i don't know exactly what point you're trying to make here.... your fifth point - you're probably right, you're giving them a hell of a fight vs vastly smaller numbers, and again, as long as your having fun, who cares. My point #1 - this thread was about mara making a website for people to check out, and you ****heads turned it into a chest beating competition. tuck it back, no one wants to see how big it is. If you want to troll people your suppose to be fighting with against an enemy, please keep it in militia chat... that way more people can troll. My point #2 - You can only chest beat when you're winning. You are at the moment losing. get on that. Edit - not to worry amarr militia, OMGROFLSTOMP will be back haunting you in lowsec in the days to come. Just gotta finish cleaning up the nub pod splatter on my windshield. Who is this random? Anyway miltia chat is for spys not for trolls. Forums are for trolls Ur corp name is immature API verified Version of the war. E-Uni weren't posting loss's wahh. Applebabe
Warg Matar Minmatar The Red Circle Inc.	Posted - 2011.03.16 10:05:00 - [60] Originally by: Chimaira wolf API verified Version of the war. E-Uni weren't posting loss's Think it's just delayed, autopost rather than counting on all the-noobs-who-cannot-pvp to post. It's good that you mention your own kb though rather than referring to the militia one, since it's not a militia issue at all. Too bad about this thread getting derailed, considering how ccp failed to have faction/militia warfare have any impact on anything in eve it's up to the players to make a "bigger picture". I wonder if it wouldn't be better to relaunch the blog as a Triad blog in roleplay forum, and have several writers provide different points of view in the struggle. Having said that, good luck in the war. I saw intys "winning fights" by escaping gatecamps, sniper hacs picking on t1 frig/cruisers and smartbombing lolstabbed battleships back in 2007.

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