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Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.11 23:44:00 - [1] Greetings: Please visit http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ if you have an interest in factional warfare from a Minmatar point of view. I appreciate all constructive criticism especially on articles dealing with PVP mechanics. Over time, I do hope to have articles going over ship fits, strategies that have worked one vs one, etc. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.12 00:00:00 - [2] Originally by: Mara Abraham Greetings: Please visit http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ if you have an interest in factional warfare from a Minmatar point of view. I appreciate all constructive criticism especially on articles dealing with PVP mechanics. Over time, I do hope to have articles going over ship fits, strategies that have worked one vs one, etc. Thank you. I do in fact have an interest in the FW. However, your site made me LOL pretty hard. IFW going to war with Ivy, and you go defending Ivy? They're one of the biggest examples of what is wrong with this game. Their idea of teaching people to PVP is mindlessly blobbing. Just gonna leave this here.... Also: TRIAD is the best Minnie FW corp? R U SRS? One thing though: "It is no secret that Minmatar combat pilots complain, sometimes all day, about the pirates in our areas" -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.12 01:08:00 - [3] Edited by: Mara Abraham on 12/03/2011 01:08:42 Good day, Liang Nuren: I do appreciate your comments as you typically have a lot to share where one learns something at the end. Yes, I'm serious about defending Eve University. From http://www.factionalwarfare.info/2011/03/why-minmatar-faction-warfare-and-the-journey-to-t-r-i-a-d/ I shared why I left Eve University; and it is in part due to learning mostly about medium to large size fleets. Eve University serves a well needed purpose in the life of Eve from teaching about the Eve Universe at large to having regular anti-pirate fleets about. It is that part (anti-pirate fleets) that does help Minmtar freedom warriors given that the Amarr has peace treaties with various pirates in our neck of the woods. Eve University helps even the odds, to a degree, for the Minmatar freedom warrior. IFW and BSP are now -10 to Eve University which means that long after the war is over, Eve University combat pilots will be able to engage IFW and BSP members. This can directly hinder Minmatar FW fleets that have IFW and BSP members in their fleet. Imagine a fight with the Amarr (or pirates), Minmatar FW combat pilots are winning, and all of a sudden Eve University is on the field shooting up the IFW and BSP ships... the fight then moves from winning to losing. Maybe it is a pipe dream of mine, but it would be nice if IFW and BSP made peace and worked towards a diplomatic solution towards having the -10 status removed. Liang, yes, I believe T.R.I.A.D is among the best. Why would I join up with a group of people if I did not believe in them and the corporation? I'm glad you laughed over the blog. Humor is a good thing. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.12 01:41:00 - [4] Mara... you are aware that we're doing this just for fun and that we have no personal vendetta against EvE Uni, right? If anything, we see it more as a test of our abilities to "take the blob" as well as good "practice" for the newbies in EvE Uni in the realm of PvP (most of the new guys itch for PvP of any sort). _______________________ "Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2011.03.12 03:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Liang Nuren Just gonna leave this here.... bahahahahahah! Funny cause it's true.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.12 07:50:00 - [6] "IFW and BSP have been given a permanent -10 standing to Eve University equating both corporations with pirates." If this means +20 frigates are going to GCC on me on a gate in lowsec I'm all for it. Mara, be thankful that IFW and BS.P are away from the warzone and the Amarr feel safe enough to undock and fight (kudos to AUTOZ & Co. for bringing the pain while we're away)... and in any case, nobody cares what you think. Go away. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Merdaneth Amarr Angel Wing.	Posted - 2011.03.12 11:21:00 - [7] Nice work Mara. An analysis exactly why you lost/won a duel, and what different tactic (or perhaps fitting) could have swung the fight would be a good addition. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
tagen young Caldari The Night Witch	Posted - 2011.03.12 12:47:00 - [8] Its known that Mara and IFW don't get on so I would expect them to troll. will keep an eye on your blog Mara.
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.12 20:49:00 - [9] T.R.I.A.D is ranked sixth in total kills for March and 20th overall for the Minmatar Militia. While not "the best", I also don't believe them to have the numbers to meet the amount of kills groups like Ctrl-Q and IFW can manage in the same amount of time. *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
San Severina Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.13 02:12:00 - [10] Good Job Mara, will be keeping an eye on the Blog. All the best- San. __________________________________________________ No sympathy for the Devil! Always remember that....
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.13 03:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Mara Abraham It is that part (anti-pirate fleets) that does help Minmtar freedom warriors given that the Amarr has peace treaties with various pirates in our neck of the woods. I'm not aware of such things, and it doesnt make sense either. Why would a pirate limit his target selection that way?
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.03.13 03:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Mara Abraham It is that part (anti-pirate fleets) that does help Minmtar freedom warriors given that the Amarr has peace treaties with various pirates in our neck of the woods. I'm not aware of such things, and it doesnt make sense either. Why would a pirate limit his target selection that way? You probably lose RP streetcred if you don't try to label your enemy as dirty pirate lovers ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.13 18:20:00 - [13] for the more dimwitted amongst us: once the wardec is over, if a Eve Uni fleet wandering around in lowsec bumps into a militia fleet and opens fire on a member of IFW/BS.P they will all go "red flashy" and be valid targets to everyone and anyone who wants to shoot them. i have yet to see anyone in militia that passes up killing a 20-30 man fleet of t1 cruisers and frigs... and no mara, you don't count. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Rothgr Bronn	Posted - 2011.03.13 20:13:00 - [14] You know, I seldom wade in on such topics as I really care very little about the asinine RP side of the game. This is a way for me to relax and have some fun, lest I go outside the house and try to gank some random passerby. Unfortunately, I have learned the hard way that trying to pass off the phrase "But officer, I walked in, first he yellowboxed me, I yellowboxed back and he drew aggro. . ." doesn't really work in court. First off, from my short time in-game (I'm only a tail-end 2006 player), I've not seen EVE-Uni accomplish all that much in the field of Pirate-Eradication. I've only seen them a couple of times in Amamake and have not noticed ANY reduction in pirate camps or presence. Pirates, as a general rule and 'Tics, specifically, don't fight blobs. Sure, when EVE-Uni hops into Amamake, the 'Tics run away. They then come back out when the 150-member EVE-Uni blob moves on (usually within 5 minutes). So, from my extremely limited experience, 5 minutes of relief from the 'Tic Menace does little to alleviate the loss of the hundreds of capsuleers whose ships have been destroyed over the past month. Second, I'm a little weary of waving the EVE-Uni phallic symbol around. While you may not agree with this, EVE-Uni is not sacrosanct, at least not to me (I don't presume to speak for anyone else). This constant use of ". . .you'll be permanently red to EVE-Uni and shot on sight. . ." means something in the area of Jack and Fecal matter to me. I fly with LOTS of people who have me set to -10. I used to be in one of the most hated mercenary groups in EVE (Trinity Nova). They earned lots of enemies, before they disbanded. And besides, I refuse to be afraid of a corp who hides in station from 10, or even 15, enemy wartargets when their own numbers approach 200 or more in-system, and whose own total count is over 1580 pilots. Now, keep in mind, that I'm not bashing them (yet), I'm just stating facts. We stay in EVE-Uni's system (because they stated clearly that they will not, under any circumstances, enter nearby systems to engage in combat) for 4-5 hours. In that time, we may have approximately 30-45 minutes of engagement time. . .maybe. I know, I know, this is all part of Eve-Uni's uber-awesome stategery. Just as warping a 150-pilot blob on top of two Inty's, and seven cruisers is an awesome tactic (man, you think the Amarr whine and complain about our 15-man Minnie blobs, they'd have an apopleptic siezure if they saw an EVE-Uni fleet loaded with about 20 (yes, 20) ECM-fitted Blackbirds). Eve-Uni is nothing more than a very large corporation making TONS of ISK who have convinced their pilots that they have the end-all, beat-all method of PVP. Perhaps if their capsuleers move on into a 0.0 corp where they sit in station for an hour, then undock and insta-warp to a POS where they sit for another hour and then, eventually, engage in 15 minutes of "combat" directed by a micromanaging, anally-retentive FC, you can call them prepared for EVE PVP. And I know that while they will claim the ISK war as being won, that's mainly because our individual ships cost more than HALF their blob, combined. But 102 ships lost by EVE-Uni in a single night's engagement to 3 IFW ships. . .yeah, I still consider that an IFW win. But, I have to remember certain things: 1. The EVEMail sent by one of their head honchos wherein it was clearly stated that they ". . . would not make it fun for us." <chuckle> Yeah, I am having craptons of fun, and from the Fleet comms, so is everyone else. 2. I've engaged in numerous conversations with EVE-Uni pilots and have almost universally been asked ". . .what did I do wrong?" This does NOT indicate to me that there's much learning being given (or they're learning more from us). And, finally, it's just a game. EVE-Uni is like any other corp, albeit with slightly better PR. They didn't affect my gameplay before the dec, and they won't after. . . Permanent -10 standing or not.
Rothgr Bronn	Posted - 2011.03.13 21:06:00 - [15] . . .continued: Now, you will undoubtedly perceive this as some form of ad-hominem attack against you, personally. It is not. It is clear that you harbor certain feelings for your previous corporation. But we wardec'd EVE-Uni because of the previously-mentioned PR. The truth is that we were getting a bit bored of the Amarr not coming out. Perhaps we are victims of our own success, in this case. Rather than quit EVE (or, perhaps, switching sides to the Amarr or Caldi's), we chose to engage in combat one of the largest, and purportedly, most awesome, corps/alliances in EVE. We are having fun. We are killing and getting killed. Yet, you hear none of us complaining (well, there's a few, but mainly that we did something stupid). We are refining our tactics even more. When was the last time the Amarr fielded a fleet with 150+ ships? I haven't seen one in my admittedly limited time in FW of that size and definitely not one that Has 1/6th to 1/5th dedicated Ewar (EVE-Uni requires a fleet to have 40% of their ships be Ewar, according to their own published doctrine). Our ship kill to loss ratio is approximately 4-1, nearing 3-1, as EVE-Uni alters it's tactics. But, again, 10 ships on our side, usually, to 150-180 ships on theirs. I don't consider that all too bad, considering the numbers involved. And, to re-iterate: We're having fun. While I fully accept your right to criticize and complain about IFW and others dec'ing your Alma Mater, I truly don't understand it. Again, I am not an RP'er, so I may not be recognizing a posting originating from such a perspective. We wardec to shoot other players of this game. EVE-Uni is comprised of 1580+ of these players who allegedly want to learn to fight and engage in such fights. . .is that not what we're all doing? At least they come out and play, albeit infrequently, and are posing a challenge to us. They don't whine about losing 102 ships in a night to a 12-player opposing fleet. They don't complain about our one Falcon on field facing their 2 Falcons, 4 Scorpions and 20 Blackbirds. They don't complain about our 2 snipey battleships vs. their 5 sniping Battleships. They don't have a conniption when we field 1/10th or even 1/15th their numbers and walk away with kills in the triple digits. So, we're having fun. Why can't you? You should be happy we're giving you the opportunity to engage in an Amarr Target-Rich environment. After all, over the course of the 11th, 12th, and 13th of this monthn, TRIAD's pilots have been involved in 66 kills against the Amarr and others. Hopefully, we can all enjoy ourselves and engage in the PVP that we all want. Rothgr
bobdillon	Posted - 2011.03.13 21:46:00 - [16] killing 100 ****fit frigates piloted by newbie low SP characters is nothing to boast about, especially when you are apparently losing more ISK than they are. Also war deccing a newbie learning corp is real pro and has totaly not been done numerous times before.
N'kesti	Posted - 2011.03.13 23:51:00 - [17] I have to agree... Eve University is a newbie corp, most of whose members fly frigates because that's all they CAN fly and all they can afford to purchase. Attacking them in the first place, and LOSING to them kill or isk-wise, is nothing to be proud of.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.14 00:14:00 - [18] Originally by: bobdillon killing 100 **fit frigates piloted by newbie low SP characters is nothing to boast about, especially when you are apparently losing more ISK than they are. Also war deccing a newbie learning corp is real pro and has totaly not been done numerous times before. Originally by:** N'kesti I have to agree... Eve University is a newbie corp, most of whose members fly frigates because that's all they CAN fly and all they can afford to purchase. Attacking them in the first place, and LOSING to them kill or isk-wise, is nothing to be proud of. I have personally been on the receiving end of an Eve-Uni hotdrop, and seen them field 20+ battleships and splash probably 20 T2 cruisers in a 150 man blob. Its really a simple fact: Despite all their classes, E-Uni doesn't teach their players to PVP. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.14 00:22:00 - [19] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 14/03/2011 00:23:04 Originally by: Liang Nuren I have personally been on the receiving end of an Eve-Uni hotdrop, and seen them field 20+ battleships and splash probably 20 T2 cruisers in a 150 man blob. Its really a simple fact: Despite all their classes, E-Uni doesn't teach their players to PVP. I find it quite funny taking on their blobs, they dont seem to teach their pilots that going outside of the 100km screen of 20 blackbirds to try and tackle something is a bad idea, or trying to tackle pirates at random planets without the blob in short distance to back them up. Great fun if you want to play against the odds in a cruiser or frigate and actually win. That said, the oddest moment I had with them so far was when we baited their fleet of around 50-60 to attack one of our battleships. As soon their tackle had point and local spiked, we jumped in our backup of 7 more battleships for what was supposed to be a suicide fight for fun. Their blob instantly ran away when we did show up on grid despite being heavily outnumbered, and subsequently accused us of blobbing them in local chat.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.14 02:23:00 - [20] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 14/03/2011 02:23:40 Originally by: Lilith Velkor That said, the oddest moment I had with them so far was when we baited their fleet of around 50-60 to attack one of our battleships. As soon their tackle had point and local spiked, we jumped in our backup of 7 more battleships for what was supposed to be a suicide fight for fun. Their blob instantly ran away when we did show up on grid despite being heavily outnumbered, and subsequently accused us of blobbing them in local chat. Ha, I've had exactly the same experience. We managed to get 8 people together in Hadozeko while they had... 60-100 IIRC. We came in and announced our presence and location in local. Next thing we know they're on the Klogori gate and high tailing it to the Evati-Anher high sec exit. We tried to give chase but no dice. -Liang Ed: Its also hilarious to read their killboard comments if you lose something. We got this gem out of one: "Whose the mise now!!" -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.14 02:38:00 - [21] Edited by: Mara Abraham on 14/03/2011 02:41:54 Greetings Rothgr Bronn: While I may be in disagreement with some of the though processes involved by IFW members, I admire a number of your corporation. IFW has a lot going for it in terms of skill points, practical application of those skills in combat, and related. The statements I heard from the IFW side are only one sided, what IFW gets out of the equation.... and guessing about what Eve University gets out of the war rather than stating it was mutually agreed on. It is the latter that is, in my RL and in game opinion, the down fall of a lot of things... what's in it for me? (me could be a family, group, corporation, etc) vs. what is in it as a whole (which requires communication and mutual agreement)? The latter typically results in a better place for everyone while the former is very one sided. Now, moving forward, while the game mechanics of -10 standings from Eve University does not equate one to being GCC to start as far as concord, gate and station security are concerned, what it does do is open the door for engagement by Eve University. Rothgr Bronn you probably know many of IFW members run with close to -5.0 standings... and you probably know some of your members have a habit of going GCC (even on fellow militia members -- right or wrong is not the main issue). All it takes is for one or more Eve Uni fleets to be in the right time and right place to take advantage of those situations. My personal feelings if it was fighting a worthy target (whether mutual or not), you might have learned more war dec'ing a corp in Amarr high sec. Lastly, getting back to the blog, if there are areas of factional warfare (specifically Amarr vs. Minmatar) where you would like to see articles written, please let me know. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.14 04:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Mara Abraham Edited by: Mara Abraham on 14/03/2011 02:41:54 Now, moving forward, while the game mechanics of -10 standings from Eve University does not equate one to being GCC to start as far as concord, gate and station security are concerned, what it does do is open the door for engagement by Eve University. Newsflash: This is kinda what we're looking for. Originally by: Mara Abraham Edited by: Mara Abraham on 14/03/2011 02:41:54 ...you probably know many of IFW members run with close to -5.0 standings... and you probably know some of your members have a habit of going GCC (even on fellow militia members -- right or wrong is not the main issue). All it takes is for one or more Eve Uni fleets to be in the right time and right place to take advantage of those situations. It's un-written corp policy that everyone stays above -5, due mainly to the fact that IFW often flies with logistics in fleet (or in logi ships). In my almost 2 years in faction warfare, only ONCE have we had an issue with a corpmate being perma-flashy. I'd try and explain how lowsec aggresion works but from past experience I know just how ignorant you are about such basic game mechanics, such as your "expertise" on such simple concepts as looting and agression, your inability to understand "nano kiting" and "nano sniping", covering your losses with accusations of incompetence towards other miltia members. Suffice to say if EVE Uni show up in lowsec and decide to GCC on any one of us, it's not a bad thing. Originally by: Mara Abraham Edited by: Mara Abraham on 14/03/2011 02:41:54 My personal feelings if it was fighting a worthy target (whether mutual or not), you might have learned more war dec'ing a corp in Amarr high sec. Have you been into Amarr highsec since you joined faction warfare? Just stop, seriously. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Karl Planck Walt Disney Productions	Posted - 2011.03.14 13:14:00 - [23] Originally by: Sneaky Noob It's un-written corp policy that everyone stays above -5, due mainly to the fact that IFW often flies with logistics in fleet (or in logi ships). In my almost 2 years in faction warfare, only ONCE have we had an issue with a corpmate being perma-flashy. I'd try and explain how lowsec aggresion works but from past experience I know just how ignorant you are about such basic game mechanics... Not that I love you minnie corps, but I feel like I have to say something here. This statement is pretty nub bro, you can have logistics all you want with ppl that are < -5.0 as long as they don't GCC. Just because you are an outlaw does not cause logistics to go GCC if they rep you. It is ONLY when they rep a GCC'd player that they themselves pull GCC (at which point it shouldn't even matter b/c it doesn't affect sec at all, just gate/station aggro). Despite YOUR ignorance, I hope IFW is having fun with eve-uni. You are correct that there are things they aren't learning, however I think is a sign of many new players rather than the teachings. New players are extremely accident prone and we all know how long it takes to get a real feel for pvp. And TRIAD/mara, keep the up pew pew, I enjoy our encounters (i am still laughing about that 3 man gang vs my griffen and no kills by you guys) ------------------------------------------------- Don't debate with morons. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.14 13:32:00 - [24] Originally by: Karl Planck Not that I love you minnie corps, but I feel like I have to say something here. This statement is pretty nub bro, you can have logistics all you want with ppl that are < -5.0 as long as they don't GCC. Just because you are an outlaw does not cause logistics to go GCC if they rep you. It is ONLY when they rep a GCC'd player that they themselves pull GCC (at which point it shouldn't even matter b/c it doesn't affect sec at all, just gate/station aggro). In factional warfare, if you remote rep a gcc or perma flashy, you lose FACTION STANDING. e.g., if I rep a perma flashy or a gcc, I will lose standing to the gallente federation. Eventually, this can cause a corp to be kicked out of the militia if there are a lot of logi pilots, and regaining the standing is very difficult once you've reached max rank (and no, dropping your rank and then getting it back later does not work). I think I would have gone perma flashy by now if it wasn't for this mechanic in fw.
Karl Planck Walt Disney Productions	Posted - 2011.03.14 14:31:00 - [25] I am freakin shocked. I didn't know about this portion of the mechanic. I am AMAZED that gaining GCC in this way is equivalent to agressing a fellow malitia member, my bad on the previous post i guess. ------------------------------------------------- Don't debate with morons. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Eoghan Gorthaur Clepsydra Bureau	Posted - 2011.03.14 15:18:00 - [26] Good blog Mara ! Nice contents and well written Keep it alive :)
Damar Rocarion	Posted - 2011.03.14 17:21:00 - [27] Originally by: Karl Planck I am freakin shocked. I didn't know about this portion of the mechanic. I am AMAZED that gaining GCC in this way is equivalent to agressing a fellow malitia member, my bad on the previous post i guess. FW is all about stupid mechanisms. Gallentes actually seemed to move their logi and carrier pilots to their own alliance. Now, in battle this actually mucks things up if Caldari have their own logi in the field. They cannot go gcc on carriers before they are legal targets because there goes your faction standing, etc. Then there are militia alts which you can use to ambush your enemy. For example, one gallente got so ****ed off for losing his expensive Dramiel today that he brought militia alt to kill my corp member who was camping his mains FW mission. Later said guy was hunted down by other members of caldari miltiia and killed. And for this they of course lost standing. Aint FW great? Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
Crocodile Tear Sinners.	Posted - 2011.03.14 18:10:00 - [28] Originally by: chatgris Originally by: Karl Planck Not that I love you minnie corps, but I feel like I have to say something here. This statement is pretty nub bro, you can have logistics all you want with ppl that are < -5.0 as long as they don't GCC. Just because you are an outlaw does not cause logistics to go GCC if they rep you. It is ONLY when they rep a GCC'd player that they themselves pull GCC (at which point it shouldn't even matter b/c it doesn't affect sec at all, just gate/station aggro). In factional warfare, if you remote rep a gcc or perma flashy, you lose FACTION STANDING. e.g., if I rep a perma flashy or a gcc, I will lose standing to the gallente federation. Eventually, this can cause a corp to be kicked out of the militia if there are a lot of logi pilots, and regaining the standing is very difficult once you've reached max rank (and no, dropping your rank and then getting it back later does not work). I think I would have gone perma flashy by now if it wasn't for this mechanic in fw. Chatgris has considered going -10? You just put a smile on my face.
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.14 18:51:00 - [29] Edited by: chatgris on 14/03/2011 18:52:05 Originally by: Crocodile Tear Chatgris has considered going -10? You just put a smile on my face. Haha yes, I admit I've made quite the 180 degree turn on this... I guess that's what lulls in caldari activity will do to you. As well as regularly flying a ship that can tank gate guns... :) I'd say it's more than considered... more like very tempted to, but held back by fw mechanics :(
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.14 20:28:00 - [30] Greetings Sneaky Noob: It looks like you are emotional stamp collecting rather than leaving go -- forgiving or otherwise. That usually leads to bad moods and bad health. Please get over it, move on, be healthy, and have fun rather than being mad. ### Recent war front news - IFW apparently tired of losing ships to new players, and upset their smack wasn't getting to Eve Uni, decided to double their fleet size with OOC reppers. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.14 20:41:00 - [31] Enough of this inner-militia trashing. Mara wants to build a site to entertain him/someone else, let him. Making fun of someone trying to bring some new eyes and ears to militia is just stupid. Let him do his thing, you do yours. If you don't have anything nice to say, make sure you're talking to the amarrians. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.14 22:49:00 - [32] Originally by: Karl Planck Edited by: Karl Planck on 14/03/2011 14:32:24 Edited from MY ignorant post I hope IFW is having fun with eve-uni. You are correct that there are things they aren't learning, however I think is a sign of many new players rather than the teachings. New players are extremely accident prone and we all know how long it takes to get a real feel for pvp. And TRIAD/mara, keep the up pew pew, I enjoy our encounters (i am still laughing about that 3 man gang vs my griffen and no kills by you guys) You owe me .09 sec status. I tested this on a -9.2 corpmate (he did not aggro anything) and I took a GCC from repping him, subsequently taking gate gun fire and a sec status hit. Shows just how unfamiliar I am with GCC mechanics in lowsec since it's almost NEVER an issue in our fleets. Originally by: Mara Abraham Greetings Sneaky Noob: It looks like you are emotional stamp collecting rather than leaving go -- forgiving or otherwise. That usually leads to bad moods and bad health. Please get over it, move on, be healthy, and have fun rather than being mad. ### Recent war front news - IFW apparently tired of losing ships to new players, and upset their smack wasn't getting to Eve Uni, decided to double their fleet size with OOC reppers. Thank you. Mara, I speak for myself and my corporation when I ask you to stop spreading false unsubstantiated rumors about IFW, such as the ones you have posted in this thread: http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=39351 For the record: a) IFW has never hired anyone to do any of our killing. b) Killing the "target caller" or the FC in our fleets is pretty much impossible, since we ALL have the skills and know-how to take over a fleet if needed. As a matter of fact, this ability is something that has caused friction with some of the "less intellectually inclined" members of our militia, since we don't hold hands and coddle them. c) Everyone uses OOC alts in wartime. That is all, carry on. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.14 23:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Mara Abraham Eve Uni tends to have among the best FC's -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Chimaira wolf Minmatar Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.14 23:38:00 - [34] We took on a 1600 pilot corp cause we were bored. We fight roughly 8 vs 100+ and enjoying it. E uni are having fun killing our sexy ships. We are having fun fighting against the odds/ECM. everybody wins wahh. Applebabe
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 00:37:00 - [35] Good day, Sneaky Noob: Nothing false has been posted. While one IFW run fleet did shoot up my dramiel after I participated (solo) in several of the engagements, that was once and done. There were no multiple engagements and the kill board shows it. While many do believe it is ok to loot wrecks you've helped to create, I did apologize as I would rather peace overall. Since that apology, I've made it a point to do my best to stay away from IFW areas of attack unless I was there first (like last night in Dal); and even then to stay away from loot where IFW was on the field. There are some IFW members who have a hard time letting go of the past; I cannot help that. However, be that as it may, I do share my admiration of many IFW pilots who fly well. Back to the blog, http://www.factionalwarfare.info/2011/03/t-r-i-a-d-member-defends-abudban-in-mammoth/ -- one of our T.R.I.A.D. members and a good strategist took out an Amarrian WT in a battle mammoth. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 01:45:00 - [36] Good day Anzwithbeard: http://omgazn.blogspot.com/ -- good job mate. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.15 01:49:00 - [37] Originally by: Mara Abraham Nothing false has been posted. HMM.. Originally by: Mara Abraham From time to time IFW militia members have purposely shot friendly militia members (going GCC). From time to time they have also helped the Amarr locate friendly militia members on their "bad list" so the Amarr could take them out to avoid Militia FW standing hits. GGC militia members? like your self for instance? you mean the incident you have amitted fault in and asked all involved to forgive and forget? not exacly false, but how you have implied it is. As to helping the armarr? lol. flat out lie, screen shot or it didnt happen. mara just give up as sneaky recommended. your continued efforts to slander IFW are just digging the hole your in deeper and deeper. as well as creating stink for yor current corperation, as flattering your consistent attention is
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 03:25:00 - [38] Good day, Jasper: When you can show a KM where I was involved in shooting at a friendly Militia member that is API verified, I would like to see it. I stand by what I posted; and it is not slander. Part of rolling with the punches, Jasper is taking both good and bad. IFW has a lot of good about it; and like everything else, some bad.... I do believe the good out shadows the bad... but if you and Sneaky want to continue highlighting areas that is bad claiming it either doesn't exist or is good... well that's your business. Jasper on the dramiel instance, I've shared that people have different points of view with some believing that if they are on field killing targets that some of the loot of those targets belong to those who helped. I shared that I apologized putting IFW in the situation where they felt they had to go GCC (giving kill rights) me in order to get the loot a dramiel can carry. I did so because I would rather peace than the continued harassment; and even long after the apology, IFW members seem to hang on rather than move on. IFW has done a lot for the Minmatar Militia; and can continue doing so as it operates as a team which requires communication and mutual agreement. I do believe the war is wrong; and I've stated way. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.15 03:55:00 - [39] Again, you have your head so far up your own ass it is unbelievable. I was referring to you saying that what you posted was not lies, where is the kill that we (IFW) gcc'd a fellow militia (that did not provoke such actions ie yahoo, mara, aldorf etc) And you saying that we collude with the amarr to kill friendlyÆs; kindly provide proof or you are in fact lying about and slandering IFW. something i demand a public apology on. And as for the dramial incident, if you feel the need to explain what happened please explain it in full: 1.You where warned multiple times to donÆt loot kills from our 10-20man fleet. 2.You continued to loot after multiple warning, on kills that you HAD NOTHING to do with, but landed on grid as they poped. 3.The time you got ur ass ded was when you again LOOTED kills not yours and the best part is while ACTIVE war targets where still on field and our fleet was still fighting. 4. profit?????
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.15 14:44:00 - [40] Originally by: Mara Abraham IFW has done a lot for the Minmatar Militia; and can continue doing so as it operates as a team which requires communication and mutual agreement. I do believe the war is wrong; and I've stated way. Fine. We're simply stating that we don't care what you think. If IFW has, by your own admission, done "a lot" for the Militia as a whole, don't you think your time would be better spent trying to understand what they do an why they do it instead of slandering them at every opportunity? The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.15 15:03:00 - [41] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: Mara Abraham IFW has done a lot for the Minmatar Militia; and can continue doing so as it operates as a team which requires communication and mutual agreement. I do believe the war is wrong; and I've stated way. Fine. We're simply stating that we don't care what you think. If IFW has, by your own admission, done "a lot" for the Militia as a whole, don't you think your time would be better spent trying to understand what they do an why they do it instead of slandering them at every opportunity? ... IT'S LIBEL! IT'S MOTHER***ING LIBEL! IT'S IN A PERMANENT MEDIUM, WHERE-AS SLANDER* IS ON A GODDAMN TEMPORARY MEDIUM (i.e., spoken)> /RAGE *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 16:42:00 - [42] Originally by: Azelor Delaria IT'S LIBEL! IT'S MOTHER***ING LIBEL! IT'S IN A PERMANENT MEDIUM, WHERE-AS SLANDER* IS ON A GODDAMN TEMPORARY MEDIUM (i.e., spoken)> /RAGE -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 18:47:00 - [43] Greetings: Jesus is so awesome. I just had to laugh over the mistake of libel vs. slander. It's been neat watching http://killboard.eveuniversity.org/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=10078 While not by a large margin, it appears Eve University is winning. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 19:08:00 - [44] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 19:08:37 Originally by: Mara Abraham While not by a large margin, it appears Eve University is winning. Let me summarize: IFW has lost 52 ships to Ivy. Ivy has lost 158 ships to IFW. IFW engages with 2-3 man gangs, and Ivy with 40 man gangs. Yes, Eve Uni is pure Sheen winning. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
tagen young Caldari The Night Witch	Posted - 2011.03.15 20:56:00 - [45] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 19:08:37 Originally by: Mara Abraham While not by a large margin, it appears Eve University is winning. Let me summarize: IFW has lost 52 ships to Ivy. Ivy has lost 158 ships to IFW. IFW engages with 2-3 man gangs, and Ivy with 40 man gangs. Yes, Eve Uni is pure Sheen winning. -Liang I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 21:04:00 - [46] Originally by: tagen young I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber. Comments: - The ISK losses by each side is roughly equal. Definitely within a margin of error. - IFW is engaging with 10% of the numbers the other side has and getting far more numerical kills. - IFW has nailed 40 pods. Assuming they're all cheapskates running with only +3s, that's 4B ISK in losses (neglecting clone costs). - Ivy isn't fully composed of people of low SP. The problem is that they're PVP noobs - and Ivy isn't doing anything meaningful about it. - TBH, IFW is giving the Ivy guys more education than they were likely to receive in a hundred years in Ivy. Ivy used to know and embrace this. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.15 21:31:00 - [47] Greetings: Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 3.27B IFW / BSP: Damage received (ISK): 2.44B From an ISK perspective ahead. And given pod kills made by Eve University... not sure as they got a number of WT pods. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
tagen young Caldari The Night Witch	Posted - 2011.03.15 22:10:00 - [48] I think IFW seem to be doing a good job with their lack of numbers. This doesnt surprise me at all. The idea that the uni pods average 100m each is pretty insane though.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 22:16:00 - [49] Originally by: Mara Abraham Greetings: Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 3.27B IFW / BSP: Damage received (ISK): 2.44B From an ISK perspective ahead. And given pod kills made by Eve University... not sure as they got a number of WT pods. Thank you. The numbers at the top don't make sense. Consider: E-Uni (50.13% Efficiency (ISK)) vs IFW Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 54 Ships killed (2.43B ISK), 16 Pod kills IFW: Damage done (ISK): 164 Ships killed (2.41B ISK), 40 Pod kills E-Uni (32.68% Efficiency (ISK)) vs BPS Eve University: 6 Ships killed (0.85B ISK),0 Pod kills BlackSite Prophecy: 66 Ships killed (1.75B ISK), 6 Pod kills IFW+BSP = 2.41B+1.75B = 4.16B + 46 Pod kills Eve-Uni = 2.41B+0.85B = 3.26B + 16 Pod kills 4.16B vs 3.26B is a pretty far cry from your 3.27B vs 2.44B -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
tagen young Caldari The Night Witch	Posted - 2011.03.15 22:43:00 - [50] Edited by: tagen young on 15/03/2011 22:43:42 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Mara Abraham Greetings: Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 3.27B IFW / BSP: Damage received (ISK): 2.44B From an ISK perspective ahead. And given pod kills made by Eve University... not sure as they got a number of WT pods. Thank you. The numbers at the top don't make sense. Consider: E-Uni (50.13% Efficiency (ISK)) vs IFW Eve University: Damage done (ISK): 54 Ships killed (2.43B ISK), 16 Pod kills IFW: Damage done (ISK): 164 Ships killed (2.41B ISK), 40 Pod kills E-Uni (32.68% Efficiency (ISK)) vs BPS Eve University: 6 Ships killed (0.85B ISK),0 Pod kills BlackSite Prophecy: 66 Ships killed (1.75B ISK), 6 Pod kills IFW+BSP = 2.41B+1.75B = 4.16B + 46 Pod kills Eve-Uni = 2.41B+0.85B = 3.26B + 16 Pod kills 4.16B vs 3.26B is a pretty far cry from your 3.27B vs 2.44B -Liang Quoted to prevent edit I'm sure somebody, most probably Mara will point out your error.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.15 22:52:00 - [51] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 22:55:34 Originally by: tagen young Quoted to prevent edit I'm sure somebody, most probably Mara will point out your error. The most important thing to see is that IFW is holding their own against 10x the numbers. They are not losing by more than a billion ISK. Also, Eve-Uni is a steaming pile of ** that couldn't teach their members to PVP if their lives depended on it. Even their instructors tend to be epic fail PVPers. -Liang Ed: Also, I'm well past giving a if I ed up on Eve-O. Wheeee, a page that has a layout gets misinterpreted on the interwebz! Also, for the life of me I'm not seeing where it's coming up with E-Uni only losing 2.44B ISK when IFW has killed 2.41 by themselves. Actually, I know how it happened. Meh, they're still kicking ass for engaging at 10:1 numbers. -- Eve Forum *** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 01:35:00 - [52] Edited by: Sneaky Noob on 16/03/2011 01:41:03 Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: Mara Abraham IFW has done a lot for the Minmatar Militia; and can continue doing so as it operates as a team which requires communication and mutual agreement. I do believe the war is wrong; and I've stated way. Fine. We're simply stating that we don't care what you think. If IFW has, by your own admission, done "a lot" for the Militia as a whole, don't you think your time would be better spent trying to understand what they do an why they do it instead of slandering them at every opportunity? ... IT'S LIBEL! IT'S MOTHER***ING LIBEL! IT'S IN A PERMANENT MEDIUM, WHERE-AS SLANDER* IS ON A GODDAMN TEMPORARY MEDIUM (i.e., spoken)> /RAGE You are correct. I have edited my post. Thank you. On a related note I have yet to find any credible online resource that clarifies if online chatting and/or blogging falls under the pretenses of slander or libel. From what I've read so far, blogging is, for the most part, considered libel but chatting is much more difficult to define. I'd look some more but I honestly don't care. In any case, since the individual has used both blog-posting and chats AND voice comms to defame IFW, I will use both terms when referring to his lies and halucinations. Finally, It's nice to have your rage-filled, spittle-spewing anger posting back on the forums. I recently noticed you lost an Absolution, a Zealot and a Hookbill in less than 30 minutes no doubt in an attempt to "solo" the entire enemy battle fleet. While this loss streak is impressive, someone saw fit to lose even more ships that you did. In any case, my condolences for your loss. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 02:48:00 - [53] Edited by: jasper beamsalot on 16/03/2011 02:50:37 Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 22:55:34 Originally by: tagen young Quoted to prevent edit I'm sure somebody, most probably Mara will point out your error. The most important thing to see is that IFW is holding their own against 10x the numbers. They are not losing by more than a billion ISK. Also, Eve-Uni is a steaming pile of ** that couldn't teach their members to PVP if their lives depended on it. Even their instructors tend to be epic fail PVPers. -Liang Ed: Also, I'm well past giving a if I ed up on Eve-O. Wheeee, a page that has a ** layout gets misinterpreted on the interwebz! Also, for the life of me I'm not seeing where it's coming up with E-Uni only losing 2.44B ISK when IFW has killed 2.41 by themselves. Actually, I know how it happened. Meh, they're still kicking ass for engaging at 10:1 numbers. Name: Eve University Start date: 2011-03-10 Kills: 164 KILLS ISK (B): 2.41 Losses: 54 LOSSES ISK (B): 2.43 Efficiency: 49.87% Plus considering we have like 3x the number of kills i think the war dec is going very successfull thus far.
Azelor Delaria Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.03.16 03:53:00 - [54] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Finally, It's nice to have your rage-filled, spittle-spewing anger posting back on the forums. I recently noticed you lost an Absolution, a Zealot and a Hookbill in less than 30 minutes no doubt in an attempt to "solo" the entire enemy battle fleet. While this loss streak is impressive, someone saw fit to lose even more ships that you did. In any case, my condolences for your loss. I see someone failed to notice the fact that "/rage" was intended to show I was in a "joking" mood when posting. With that being said, you'll notice that those losses occurred in a fleet battle held in low sec between Amarr and Minmatar. You know, one of those things you complained we don't provide, hence your war dec against EVE Uni. I'll put this here. Oh, and this! Now, if only you guys would actually come and fight... *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Silence iKillYouu Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 04:29:00 - [55] Has mara Trained Advanced Trolling lvl 4 ?
Sharra Savente Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 05:01:00 - [56] Be careful what you wish for Azelor..... We all know the only reason your undocking is because IFW isnt around atm.
Dave Deadstar Minmatar Parsec Flux	Posted - 2011.03.16 06:34:00 - [57] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/03/2011 19:08:37 Originally by: Mara Abraham While not by a large margin, it appears Eve University is winning. Eve Uni is pure Sheen winning. -Liang I support this cultural reference.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.16 07:52:00 - [58] Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 16/03/2011 07:56:57 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: tagen young I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber. Comments: - The ISK losses by each side is roughly equal. Definitely within a margin of error. - IFW is engaging with 10% of the numbers the other side has and getting far more numerical kills. - IFW has nailed 40 pods. Assuming they're all cheapskates running with only +3s, that's 4B ISK in losses (neglecting clone costs). - Ivy isn't fully composed of people of low SP. The problem is that they're PVP noobs - and Ivy isn't doing anything meaningful about it. - TBH, IFW is giving the Ivy guys more education than they were likely to receive in a hundred years in Ivy. Ivy used to know and embrace this. -Liang Just a few things I'd like to point out your first point - while looking at eve-uni campaign (here http://killboard.eveuniversity.org/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=10078) it seems at this time eve-uni is beating the combined BSP + IFW corporations by roughly a billion isk. your second point - yes, you're engaging with far more members then they are, and i salute you for it. as long as you're having fun who cares? your third point - you popping 40 pods with "cheapskate implants" for roughly 4bil isk (even tho im sure over 1/2 of their pods had no implants tbh) vs. them popping 16 of you probably NOT so "cheapskate" implants (snakes, crystals, +5s, etc).... TBH you should just be quiet on this front holmes...... your fourth point - no their not all low sp chars... just most of them... i don't know exactly what point you're trying to make here.... your fifth point - you're probably right, you're giving them a hell of a fight vs vastly smaller numbers, and again, as long as your having fun, who cares. My point #1 - this thread was about mara making a website for people to check out, and you ****heads turned it into a chest beating competition. tuck it back, no one wants to see how big it is. If you want to troll people your suppose to be fighting with against an enemy, please keep it in militia chat... that way more people can troll. My point #2 - You can only chest beat when you're winning. You are at the moment losing. get on that. Edit - not to worry amarr militia, OMGROFLSTOMP will be back haunting you in lowsec in the days to come. Just gotta finish cleaning up the nub pod splatter on my windshield. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Chimaira wolf Minmatar Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 09:19:00 - [59] Edited by: Chimaira wolf on 16/03/2011 09:27:22 Originally by: Aznwithbeard Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 16/03/2011 07:56:57 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: tagen young I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber. Comments: - The ISK losses by each side is roughly equal. Definitely within a margin of error. - IFW is engaging with 10% of the numbers the other side has and getting far more numerical kills. - IFW has nailed 40 pods. Assuming they're all cheapskates running with only +3s, that's 4B ISK in losses (neglecting clone costs). - Ivy isn't fully composed of people of low SP. The problem is that they're PVP noobs - and Ivy isn't doing anything meaningful about it. - TBH, IFW is giving the Ivy guys more education than they were likely to receive in a hundred years in Ivy. Ivy used to know and embrace this. -Liang Just a few things I'd like to point out your first point - while looking at eve-uni campaign (here http://killboard.eveuniversity.org/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=10078) it seems at this time eve-uni is beating the combined BSP + IFW corporations by roughly a billion isk. your second point - yes, you're engaging with far more members then they are, and i salute you for it. as long as you're having fun who cares? your third point - you popping 40 pods with "cheapskate implants" for roughly 4bil isk (even tho im sure over 1/2 of their pods had no implants tbh) vs. them popping 16 of you probably NOT so "cheapskate" implants (snakes, crystals, +5s, etc).... TBH you should just be quiet on this front holmes...... your fourth point - no their not all low sp chars... just most of them... i don't know exactly what point you're trying to make here.... your fifth point - you're probably right, you're giving them a hell of a fight vs vastly smaller numbers, and again, as long as your having fun, who cares. My point #1 - this thread was about mara making a website for people to check out, and you ****heads turned it into a chest beating competition. tuck it back, no one wants to see how big it is. If you want to troll people your suppose to be fighting with against an enemy, please keep it in militia chat... that way more people can troll. My point #2 - You can only chest beat when you're winning. You are at the moment losing. get on that. Edit - not to worry amarr militia, OMGROFLSTOMP will be back haunting you in lowsec in the days to come. Just gotta finish cleaning up the nub pod splatter on my windshield. Who is this random? Anyway miltia chat is for spys not for trolls. Forums are for trolls Ur corp name is immature API verified Version of the war. E-Uni weren't posting loss's wahh. Applebabe
Warg Matar Minmatar The Red Circle Inc.	Posted - 2011.03.16 10:05:00 - [60] Originally by: Chimaira wolf API verified Version of the war. E-Uni weren't posting loss's Think it's just delayed, autopost rather than counting on all the-noobs-who-cannot-pvp to post. It's good that you mention your own kb though rather than referring to the militia one, since it's not a militia issue at all. Too bad about this thread getting derailed, considering how ccp failed to have faction/militia warfare have any impact on anything in eve it's up to the players to make a "bigger picture". I wonder if it wouldn't be better to relaunch the blog as a Triad blog in roleplay forum, and have several writers provide different points of view in the struggle. Having said that, good luck in the war. I saw intys "winning fights" by escaping gatecamps, sniper hacs picking on t1 frig/cruisers and smartbombing lolstabbed battleships back in 2007.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.16 10:11:00 - [61] Originally by: Chimaira wolf Edited by: Chimaira wolf on 16/03/2011 09:27:22 Originally by: Aznwithbeard Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 16/03/2011 07:56:57 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: tagen young I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber. bunch of stuff Who is this random? Anyway miltia chat is for spys not for trolls. Forums are for trolls Ur corp name is immature API verified Version of the war. E-Uni weren't posting loss's I'm just some guy. Posting ur IFW KB definately does dumb it down to insignificant differences, so thank you for that. The rest of my points, however, remain. Thank you for your critique of my corporations name. I <3 you. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Jengi Gotsen Gallente BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2011.03.16 14:26:00 - [62] Originally by: Aznwithbeard your third point - you popping 40 pods with "cheapskate implants" for roughly 4bil isk (even tho im sure over 1/2 of their pods had no implants tbh) vs. them popping 16 of you probably NOT so "cheapskate" implants (snakes, crystals, +5s, etc).... TBH you should just be quiet on this front holmes...... BS.P checking in, confirming we fly into insurmountable odds with +5s in.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.16 14:39:00 - [63] The point here is that despite the fact that Mara has repeatedly asked fellow militia pilots to forgive him (i.e. admitting fault in the process) and move on, he still sees fit to make ludicrous claims, on public forums, that they/we are pirate and/or amarr alts. It's pretty simple (for most of us anyways): Stop defaming the good name of IFW and we'll leave you alone. You'll note that not a SINGLE comment has been made by members of IFW regarding your other posts. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Azelor Delaria Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.03.16 14:48:00 - [64] Originally by: Sharra Savente Be careful what you wish for Azelor..... We all know the only reason your undocking is because IFW isnt around atm. Actually, the reason I'm undocking in the US Timezone again is because a certain group has come back to play with the Amarr militia, and people finally let their balls drop to undock in ships to fight. Not going to name names... *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Theodoric Darkwind Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.16 15:44:00 - [65] Originally by: Chimaira wolf Edited by: Chimaira wolf on 16/03/2011 09:27:22 Originally by: Aznwithbeard Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 16/03/2011 07:56:57 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: tagen young I am prepared to contract you five rifters for a fleet stabber. Comments: - The ISK losses by each side is roughly equal. Definitely within a margin of error. - IFW is engaging with 10% of the numbers the other side has and getting far more numerical kills. - IFW has nailed 40 pods. Assuming they're all cheapskates running with only +3s, that's 4B ISK in losses (neglecting clone costs). - Ivy isn't fully composed of people of low SP. The problem is that they're PVP noobs - and Ivy isn't doing anything meaningful about it. - TBH, IFW is giving the Ivy guys more education than they were likely to receive in a hundred years in Ivy. Ivy used to know and embrace this. -Liang Just a few things I'd like to point out your first point - while looking at eve-uni campaign (here http://killboard.eveuniversity.org/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=10078) it seems at this time eve-uni is beating the combined BSP + IFW corporations by roughly a billion isk. your second point - yes, you're engaging with far more members then they are, and i salute you for it. as long as you're having fun who cares? your third point - you popping 40 pods with "cheapskate implants" for roughly 4bil isk (even tho im sure over 1/2 of their pods had no implants tbh) vs. them popping 16 of you probably NOT so "cheapskate" implants (snakes, crystals, +5s, etc).... TBH you should just be quiet on this front holmes...... your fourth point - no their not all low sp chars... just most of them... i don't know exactly what point you're trying to make here.... your fifth point - you're probably right, you're giving them a hell of a fight vs vastly smaller numbers, and again, as long as your having fun, who cares. My point #1 - this thread was about mara making a website for people to check out, and you ****heads turned it into a chest beating competition. tuck it back, no one wants to see how big it is. If you want to troll people your suppose to be fighting with against an enemy, please keep it in militia chat... that way more people can troll. My point #2 - You can only chest beat when you're winning. You are at the moment losing. get on that. Edit - not to worry amarr militia, OMGROFLSTOMP will be back haunting you in lowsec in the days to come. Just gotta finish cleaning up the nub pod splatter on my windshield. Who is this random? Anyway miltia chat is for spys not for trolls. Forums are for trolls Ur corp name is immature API verified Version of the war. E-Uni weren't posting loss's Sorry to burst your bubble, IVY killboard does pull by API so even if the lossmail isn't posted losses still show.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.16 15:49:00 - [66] Originally by: Aznwithbeard your second point - yes, you're engaging with far more members then they are, and i salute you for it. as long as you're having fun who cares? I'm just a pirate local to the Minnie/Amarr FW space, and somewhat respect IFW as competent PVPers. I think the deciding factor is that I hate what Ivy League has become - they don't even teach their recruits to PVP anymore and rage about how any who dares to interrupt their "training process" with a war dec will be permanently -10. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Azelor Delaria Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.03.16 17:39:00 - [67] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Aznwithbeard your second point - yes, you're engaging with far more members then they are, and i salute you for it. as long as you're having fun who cares? I'm just a pirate local to the Minnie/Amarr FW space, and somewhat respect IFW as competent PVPers. I think the deciding factor is that I hate what Ivy League has become - they don't even teach their recruits to PVP anymore and rage about how any who dares to interrupt their "training process" with a war dec will be permanently -10. -Liang I wasn't set to "permanent -10" by them. Hell, quite a few say hi to me in local when they see me! *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Theodoric Darkwind Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.16 17:40:00 - [68] Ironically our own KB has our losses higher than IFWs KB, so yeah we aren't cheesing our losses.
Hesperius	Posted - 2011.03.16 20:11:00 - [69] Considering the only T2 e-uni will fly is interceptors, I am impressed IFW has done the isk damage they have. Anyone who has fought the both of them knows IFW is a quality group of PVPers and e-uni is handfull of mediocre pvpers who use loads of noobs for dirt cheap dps and lagging out enemy overviews.
Kuan Yida Minmatar Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.03.16 22:28:00 - [70] Edited by: Kuan Yida on 16/03/2011 22:28:43 Hesperius, you're not too shabby yourself for a pirate You woulda gotten away the last time we tangled if you hadn't landed while agressed on station the moment one of our guys undocked. I'll take this opportunity to plug my own Faction Warfare oriented blog, and yes, it's total wizard hat. But I like to think it's amusing. http://kuanyida.tumblr.com/
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.17 01:48:00 - [71] Edited by: Sneaky Noob on 17/03/2011 01:53:42 Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Sharra Savente Be careful what you wish for Azelor..... We all know the only reason your undocking is because IFW isnt around atm. Actually, the reason I'm undocking in the US Timezone again is because a certain group has come back to play with the Amarr militia, and people finally let their balls drop to undock in ships to fight. Not going to name names... No. We waited around for a couple months for ya'll to undock. Now it's your turn. Hurry up and wait. Originally by: Hesperius Considering the only T2 e-uni will fly is interceptors, I am impressed IFW has done the isk damage they have. Anyone who has fought the both of them knows IFW is a quality group of PVPers and e-uni is handfull of mediocre pvpers who use loads of noobs for dirt cheap dps and lagging out enemy overviews. You know, from time to time I'll catch one of the EVE Uni dudes and kill him and pod him... then I'll usually send him some ISK and an evemail detailing his mistakes and what he should have done instead. Every single time I do this I get messages of thanks and comments on how they wished their instructors had told them this or that. Am I a bad person? EDIT: I even got called "a gentleman" in one instance. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.17 03:17:00 - [72] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: Hesperius Considering the only T2 e-uni will fly is interceptors, I am impressed IFW has done the isk damage they have. Anyone who has fought the both of them knows IFW is a quality group of PVPers and e-uni is handfull of mediocre pvpers who use loads of noobs for dirt cheap dps and lagging out enemy overviews. You know, from time to time I'll catch one of the EVE Uni dudes and kill him and pod him... then I'll usually send him some ISK and an evemail detailing his mistakes and what he should have done instead. Every single time I do this I get messages of thanks and comments on how they wished their instructors had told them this or that. Am I a bad person? EDIT: I even got called "a gentleman" in one instance. It seemed to me that Hesp was observing that Ivy doesn't actually teach their players to PVP... almost at all. Something you obliquely confirmed by virtue of posting about those evemails that claim the instructors never taught them. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.17 03:19:00 - [73] Good day: If you believe in the total depravity of all human kind, then no one is a good person (that does include me). Thank you for sharing you are telling them how to improve, and including the isk. That's a good job. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.17 03:24:00 - [74] Originally by: Sneaky Noob I even got called "a gentleman" in one instance. Confirming that sneaky is currently broken
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.17 08:19:00 - [75] Originally by: Mara Abraham Good day: If you believe in the total depravity of all human kind, then no one is a good person (that does include me). Thank you for sharing you are telling them how to improve, and including the isk. That's a good job. Thank you. Our graciousness towards people we fight/kill is nothing new. Indeed many of our number include former foes that enjoy our style of play that they end up joining us. Neither is our offering/asking for advice from people we fight... Perhaps if you had bothered to LISTEN way back when you've realized this sooner. Instead all you ever did was desperate-damage control post on the killboard (very EVE Uni-style) and spout lunacy in different chat channels and in your blog. My point still stands. Stop insulting IFW and our allied corps and we'll leave you alone. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.17 17:52:00 - [76] Good day Sneaky Noob: Originally by: Sneaky Noob My point still stands. Stop insulting IFW and our allied corps and we'll leave you alone. I'm sorry you take the truth as an insult; especially when the majority of what I share about IFW is good (you and a small number of others seem to pick out the bad parts and then pretend they do not exist). And unless you call the sneaky posts pretending to be me on kb comments "not leaving me alone," then what else is there to be done? Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.17 19:25:00 - [77] Originally by: Mara Abraham Good day Sneaky Noob: I'm sorry you take the truth as an insult; especially when the majority of what I share about IFW is good (you and a small number of others seem to pick out the bad parts and then pretend they do not exist). And unless you call the sneaky posts pretending to be me on kb comments "not leaving me alone," then what else is there to be done? Thank you. I have yet to see any truth about IFW collaborating with the Amarr. The only few instances I can think of are temporary truces called by both militias (and the tics in one or two instances) in order to take on large non-native pirate fleets. Even then it wasn't just IFW involved, it was the majority of the active militia corps on both sides. I'm assuming this is the only reference you have, considering during the fight you were screaming to attack the Amarr. Logic says, however, that DARK were the bigger threats at the time and we would not have been able to kill anything without them taken care of. If this is the "truth" you refer to, it applies to most of the major Minmatar militia corps. The fact that you're using it to publicly libel only IFW is an insult. We have never given intel to the Amarr about Minmatar militia, and we would certainly never pay any of them to attack anyone in Minmatar militia. By all means, if you have evidence to the contrary, correct me if I am wrong.
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.17 19:46:00 - [78] Greetings Nano J: Before the apology email, there were a number of occasions where the IFW CEO, Silence, and a small number of other members (excluding yourself) would share with the Amarr in local where I was located asking them to kill me. Need I say more? On the kill mail for the Dramiel I was piloting participating in a number of kills that evening (not once being warned in local despite the contrary statements) where several IFW members went GCC (giving kill rights) because they felt it was unfair (which I did agree is a valid point of view in the apology email) that a solo pilot was taking loot in between engagements of what could fit in the extremely spacious cargo hold of a Dramiel, are several IFW members stating they are paying a bounty for my corpse. So my statements stand in that area. And as you brought up, there were recent occasions where mainly IFW fleets had a truce they believed would hold with the Amarr; and it was brought up that myself and others were still shot at with ships being destroyed because the Amarr did not honor those truces. And there are those in Militia from various corporations who never believed in such truces as they only seemed to benefit the Amarr and one Minmatar Militia corporation. In fact, due to those truces (that only seemed to work for one corporation and the Amarr), when BlackBeard had a fleet trying to attack an Amarrian fleet with pirates fighting the Amarr, the pirates opened attack because they believed that one corporation's idea of who to primary first (i.e. pirates over war targets) was a matter of policy for militia (when it is not a matter of policy). Granted, we all want the pirates gone as much as the next, but those who role play view the Amarr as primary targets followed by the pirates unless it is a matter of take them both on and in what order based on the situation at hand. While I do get slammed on various occasions by a small number of IFW members, you might be shocked if you had a fly on the ship / station because more often than not, I defend IFW as well as various members from both Amarrians (with whom I have some RP discussions) as well as Minmatar members. Every person, every in game character, and every corporation, and so on has good and bad things. We hope the bad things change and become better. Most of the time, I'm slammed because I point out something that is or might be bad rather than looking things at a whole -- what is good, what is bad, is the bad really bad, where is change necessary. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.17 20:59:00 - [79] Greeting Mara Abraham: You're right that we told all of local where you were. In your apology, you stated your faults, and those were reason enough for us to want you dead, regardless of method used. And you were warned, even on prior occasions. Had you lost a ship in the engagement (even out of our fleet) and made a note of it to us before you became a loot thief, chances are you would've gotten some of that loot as compensation. As for the kill mail comments, good luck verifying the real identity of the poster. Nevertheless, you had been blacklisted and you were a target, again regardless of the method used. After your apology, we backed off in-game. In fact I even told you once that you could have loot after you helped me kill a Maller. Sure, you still got trolled, but so does everyone - lighten up. As for truces, there has never been an instance in which IFW were exclusively involved with the Amarr. Even in the very few truces I've been involved in, we made sure others in the area knew the Amarr were helping us kill a superior pirate force. If you choose not to honor that, fine. Take it to IGS, role play it however you want. I don't care. But we're not going to shoot at people that are helping us rid the warzone of pirates that disrupt both militias (not to mention defending our carriers). On a side note, referring to our dec with E Uni: The pirate-Amarr NAP you're referring to is probably Fa!led Diplomacy. I'm not sure if they're still in Amarr militia, but they were essentially bait for the tics to attack small Minmatar gangs. They had little association with the rest of the Amarr, whom the tics fight as regularly as they fight us. As stated by a previous post, why would a pirate want to limit his/her targets with blue standings/a NAP?
Azelor Delaria Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.03.17 21:47:00 - [80] Mara's the best ***ing troll in this thread. .. And she's not even trolling!* *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Montmazar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:33:00 - [81] Originally by: Mara Abraham And as you brought up, there were recent occasions where mainly IFW fleets had a truce they believed would hold with the Amarr; and it was brought up that myself and others were still shot at with ships being destroyed because the Amarr did not honor those truces. And there are those in Militia from various corporations who never believed in such truces as they only seemed to benefit the Amarr and one Minmatar Militia corporation. OMG. Mara IS Damar.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:36:00 - [82] Originally by: Mara Abraham Good day Sneaky Noob: Originally by: Sneaky Noob My point still stands. Stop insulting IFW and our allied corps and we'll leave you alone. I'm sorry you take the truth as an insult; especially when the majority of what I share about IFW is good (you and a small number of others seem to pick out the bad parts and then pretend they do not exist). And unless you call the sneaky posts pretending to be me on kb comments "not leaving me alone," then what else is there to be done? Thank you. I have yet to see anything that proves your allegations of IFW/Amarr cooperation or IFW/Pirate cooperation. What I have witnessed first hand are your mistakes (dare I call them screw-ups) while in militia fleets and subsequent deaths on your behalf, which you quickly damage-controlled by accusing fellow militia members of incompetence and treachery. My personal favorite was watching you suicide a Crusader into an Amarr HAC gang then blame Voody Voodoo and call him out in the channel formerly known as ROSS-Public as a spy. Little did you realize Voody and everyone else in fleet was in a sniper HAC/Recon/BC and engaging at +50kms range. Instead of LISTENING to various individuals attempt to explain what had happened (myself included) your "elite pvp training" provided by EVE Uni allowed you to determine that Voody was a spy. This pattern repeated itself time and time again with individuals belonging to IFW and in other corps. Even the incident where you lost your Dramiel was the culmination of you refusing to LISTEN to requests, then warnings and finally threats about your irresponsible behavior while on field with other militia members. Finally, about the comments on your lossmails. What started as an honest attempt by various militia members to provide constructive critique on your more questionable fits eventually degerated into what you see today. I recommend: a) HTFU and deal with it. I get hateposting on my lossmails too. I don't care. b) Stop using battleclinic as the "end-all" of PvP in EVE. It isn't. For example: the hookbill fit you kept using and dying in against non-turret frigs. c) look for patterns. If a fit gets you alot of flame, maybe there is something wrong with it. d) Get a new character. Fresh start. ... oh, and my point still stands. Prove your allegations or keep quiet. As long as you keep on insulting and lying about IFW and our fellow LateNite(tm) allies, no amount of "oh i think IFW is good" will cover that up. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Flynn Fetladral BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:56:00 - [83] Checking in to this epic thread :-)
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.17 23:49:00 - [84] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Mara's the best ***ing troll in this thread. .. And she's not even trolling!* That's probably the saddest part of this whole thread. As much as I hate indulging the attention ***, these kind of alegations can't be ignored. Fortunately, I think my corpmates and I (as well as some unexpected others) have made the point plenty clear enough. We already taught Mara a lesson about being a loot *, now he's learning a lesson about being an attention ***.
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.18 00:07:00 - [85] Originally by: Mara Abraham From time to time IFW militia members have purposely shot friendly militia members (going GCC). From time to time they have also helped the Amarr locate friendly militia members on their "bad list" so the Amarr could take them out to avoid Militia FW standing hits. I like how you have edited your post to remove some of the lies, however that does not negate the fact that you said it, and i still am demanding a public apology, in this thread is fine. You said we have helped Amarr locate friendly militia members, (news: your not considered a friendly to the greater militia; especially not us) so your statement stands false and nothing more than attempts to slander IFW. Again something I demand an apology for, if you donÆt other methods to show you the error of your ways may have to be employed, something I am sure you or your current associates would not appreciate. Waiting..
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.18 01:03:00 - [86] Originally by: Mara Abraham From time to time IFW militia members have purposely shot friendly militia members (going GCC). From time to time they have also helped the Amarr locate friendly militia members on their "bad list" so the Amarr could take them out to avoid Militia FW standing hits. Even the poor evidence you've provided for these statements only applies to your Dramiel loss. Since you recognized that you were at fault in your apology note, you also recognized that you were not a friendly militia member in the engagement. Therefore, we never did what you claim. The only other times in which we've engaged other Minmatar militia members are to protect the whole of our militia from rogue pilots using the purple star to surprise gank (going gcc) friendly plexers, missioners, etc. I understand that you dislike us for deccing your old corp. Like Sneaky said though, we don't care what you think. You're welcome to troll us, call us names, hell you can even tell E Uni where we are and what ships we're in. But the lies on E Uni's forum is an attempt divide the Minmatar militia. That's more detrimental than the rare truce with Amarr to kill pirates. It's making you and your corp look like fools, and I respect a lot of TRIAD members.
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.18 03:00:00 - [87] Edited by: Mara Abraham on 18/03/2011 03:07:16 Edited by: Mara Abraham on 18/03/2011 03:03:25 Greetings jasper beamsalot: I don't apologize for telling the truth. Greetings Nano J: I've shared several times there are many points of view on the Dramiel loss. One valid point of view is that anyone participating in a fight has the right to take a portion of the loot. Now, unless you believe the Dramiel was hacked without CCP's knowledge to have more than 130 m3 cargo space (given the fit that was used), that's not a lot of loot that can be carried. Another point of view is that if there is a fleet on field; and that fleet has losses throughout the engagement, that fleet has a greater right to the loot than any solo pilot who was good a enough to stay alive through all of the various engagements (of which there were several including against pirates). It is that point of view that I conceded in order to have some level of peace with IFW. Since IFW did go GCC on that kill, it was against a friendly Militia member according to game mechanics whether or not IFW likes it or not. Greetings Sneaky Noob: The loss trolls that do include actual constructive criticism are taken into account with adjustments made. The arrogant rarely post constructive criticism; and those I typically don't listen since arrogant and proud people generally only think they are great in their own eyes rather than being great in the eyes of many. Those that know IFW and have been around in local when IFW was communicating in local know the truth; and that's what counts. Whether you believe the truth or not, that's your business. Proving it to you and IFW people holding a similar attitude would change nothing since there is already denial and blinders on. BTW, the main thing I've shared with Eve University is that IFW has selective memory when posting loss mails.... I think that's funny given how one blames the Amarrians for doing the same thing, don't you think? Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.18 04:05:00 - [88] Good Day and Salutations Mara Abraham: So essentially what you're saying is that your apology was insincere and nothing more than way to get people (not just IFW) to stop trolling you? Did you even read your own evemail? Let me refresh your memory about it to highlight all the hypocrisy and/or ignorance. "I want to apologize...that I put you into a position of backing up fellow militia members who lost ships. Even though I did participate in several of the battles involved, your fleet had the most to give and the most to lose. I apologize for not seeing that, and for taking so long to recognize it. ... Your forgiveness, however, is not a condition for how I hope to act towards you in the future; and that is to treat you as fellw Minmatar Militia members who have done a lot for the miltiia and continue to do so." A Dramiel has enough cargo space to hold enough loot to buy a dread, depending on the loot. It could definitely hold enough to replace the full cost of a Rifter. In fact, your Dramiel dropped 17.8mil worth of loot; and that's not even counting the loot you had that was destroyed. Loot hoarding of that magnitude is looked down by most establishments throughout Eve. Besides, you knew the system the fleet that "had the most to give" was using. But you chose to ignore it and kick your teammates who had lost ships when they were down. We do not approve of this. According to game mechanics, you were not a friendly Militia member, as jasper pointed out. The Gallente are not my friendly Militia members, they just happen to be at war with the same entities. You are in my militia, but so is Adolf Ehrnrooth. Does that make him a friendly Militia member? According to game mechanics, we took gcc because we attacked a neutral. That is why corp members can shoot each other freely. We may be arrogant and proud, but you said it yourself, we've "done a lot for the militia and continue to do so." As for our "selective memories", we have our own KB to look at for our efficiency. Personally, I post kills on the militia board for the militia. I don't post all my losses (guilty as charged) unless it's from a fair fight to judge its efficiency or to see what killed me. Even then, most (if not all) in IFW care more about having fun than efficiency, unless we're completely hemorrhaging isk. High kill rates are just a side effect from the fun. Besides, I doubt Eve Uni could care less about the militia board, they have their own to show off. Thank you very much and have a wonderful day filled with good, happy things.
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.18 04:25:00 - [89] Originally by: Mara Abraham Edited by: Mara Abraham on 18/03/2011 03:07:16 Edited by: Mara Abraham on 18/03/2011 03:03:25 Greetings jasper beamsalot: I don't apologize for telling my version of the truth. ^ fixed it for you. then show proof, otherwise stfu. Also you leave us little alternative than to pursue other avenues for satisfaction in this matter, enjoy the bed you make.
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.18 04:40:00 - [90] Hi Nano J: The apology was and is sincere. I did not exercise valid kill rights; and continue to do my best to stay outside of IFW fields of play unless I was there first, or passing through, or operating as a part of another fleet. I've also made it a point to stay away from loot IFW believes it has a right to take. According to game mechanics, the kill rights meant the attackers went GCC (the party was not already red to start). While you point to Adolf who has been shooting Militia members, it is known I've never taken down a friendly militia member's ship. The issue IFW had was that a solo pilot stayed alive during several long engagements while the more experienced IFW pilots were losing ships, and wanted the massive 17.x million isk of cargo (some of which were from the mods of the ship itself) in the Dramiel so they might sleep better at night. Now, back to the loot, as I shared there are valid points of view that if you are actively participating on the field (solo or in a fleet), taking down targets (not just putting a target painter on it and the like), then you have a right to what loot you take. For those in fleets, while I'm told loot goes to those that lose ships, I've been in IFW fleets (in fact this is how the whole look after one's own for loot started) when IFW members looted from friendly and enemy wrecks, gave loot selectively to those who lost ships, and turned a deaf ear to a number of fleet members who just wanted their own loot back... loot IFW members picked up, and then refused to give back. After several fleets (early on in my fw career), it was interesting to hear IFW members bragging about how quickly they pick up loot, use a neutral to get loot during the fight (while the fight is going on), and salvaging afterward. Tie that to personal experience with selectively giving out loot to people who lost ships lead to my point of view on loot (if you earn it, you take it especially if the wreck is white or blue to you); which for the purpose of IFW relations changed to now where I accept IFW's point of view for the purpose of peace. Nano J, you Dagren, and a number of your group are excellent solo pilots and combat pilots. While I do disagree on some IFW thought processes, please note I do respect your abilities and wish you and IFW the best. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.18 04:46:00 - [91] Originally by: jasper beamsalot Originally by: Mara Abraham Edited by: Mara Abraham on 18/03/2011 03:07:16 Edited by: Mara Abraham on 18/03/2011 03:03:25 Greetings jasper beamsalot: I don't apologize for telling my version of the truth. ^ fixed it for you. then show proof, otherwise stfu. Also you leave us little alternative than to pursue other avenues for satisfaction in this matter, enjoy the bed you make. What he said. Proof. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.18 05:07:00 - [92] Okay, I'm convinced. You are invalidating your own arguments, creating new arguments, and making grandiose claims that are hardly provable. You are either extremely dense, or you are a master troll comparable to Sneaky. I think maybe the latter since i find it hard to believe anyone that incompetent to grasp some simple principles. Let me line it out to you Sneaky Noob-style. 1. Loot goes to the people that lost the most. 2. Hoarding loot when your "friendlies" have lost ships is BAD, it's called principles. 3. The "bragging" you refer to is Dolmant, who uses a neutral to ensure we always have loot to cover reimbursements. 4. If you lost a ship in our fleet, you'll probably get some loot. 5. Expensive losses get priority. Oh and we didn't kill you because we were jealous you lived, we killed you because we didn't like your loot whoring. We also don't like your libels, so you may want to avoid us unless you issue a public apology and admit that you're discussing things about IFW (and Late Nite) that you know little to nothing about.
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.18 05:16:00 - [93] Good day, Nano J: I'm Sneaky's alt ;-) Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.18 06:07:00 - [94] There are exceptions, as my previous posts mentioning that expensive losses take priority. With a little research, it seems that the ships you flew in the few Late Nite fleets you were a part of were mostly frigs (rifters, jags, firetails), with the occasional t1 cruiser. Provided that you didn't lose it or that there wasn't a more expensive loss (like our logis, HACS, or BS's) then you wouldn't have gotten loot. That is entirely possible, but I would hope people would understand that the loot goes to a BS rather than a jaguar. As for getting your own loot, it's hard enough as it is to gather loot and provide it to the right people. When I lose a ship in an engagement, I don't even bother asking for compensation unless it was one of the more expensive losses. I'd rather my crap loot go to the guy who lost the bigger ship. There have been a couple times that we've given loot to a complete stranger who showed up in a fight, provided significant help, and died. You and your jealous friends' experiences probably differ when you complain about not getting your frig loot back.
Montmazar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.18 06:15:00 - [95] Can we compromise and say that you both jack loot? Mara most definitely steals it (bringing a rifter to a battleship fight, and looting), but at the same time I've never seen IFW give loot to anyone out of their clique regardless of who lost what, but, and this is important: who cares. It's about being a team player, having fun, and not taking everything personally. It's a video game about spaceships. If you take things this personally Mara, then what's the point?
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.18 06:37:00 - [96] Originally by: Montmazar Can we compromise and say that you both jack loot? Mara most definitely steals it (bringing a rifter to a battleship fight, and looting), but at the same time I've never seen IFW give loot to anyone out of their clique regardless of who lost what, but, and this is important: who cares. It's about being a team player, having fun, and not taking everything personally. It's a video game about spaceships. If you take things this personally Mara, then what's the point? I care because it's fun to see what insane argument Mara brings up against IFW that either is complete bull%#@^ or would apply to most militia corps. Plus the Amarr's balls still haven't dropped and I took the evening off from the E Uni dec to hang with buddies not involved in the dec. Outcome = ganks and boredom.
Silence iKillYouu Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.18 09:27:00 - [97] Edited by: Silence iKillYouu on 18/03/2011 09:28:03 Originally by: Silence iKillYouu Has mara Trained Advanced Trolling lvl 4 ? Good day, Santa Clause: Mara wen we say 'dont shoot amarr' in local it isn't because were doing a mission together. Dark rising were on feild with a Aeon and about 20 carriers. We called PL in and they dropped about a million things. PL,Heretics,Amarr,Minmatar were all working together to get rid of the Dark rising threat. U were upset because u wern't in fleet u went spastic in local and Tried to kill amarr. Comms got flooded with 'Mara is shooting me' And u wonder why we mad? U bring T1 frigs to pos defense ops wth Caps/BS's U flood channels with IFW are mean crap we didn't kill ur dram because u had 500,00isk worth of loot. We killed u because u had been poking us with a big stick for weeks before that and we have had enough. Now u sent an apology which kinda weirded me out and looks like someone else wrote it for u. But now i don't hate u as much as i did wen u were trying to ruin out engagement with Dark Rising. U contracted me some loot the other week which made me think u really have changed so i dont hate u now. Also u have become a great forum warrior II
Azelor Delaria Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.03.18 16:03:00 - [98] Originally by: Nano J Plus the Amarr's balls still haven't dropped and I took the evening off from the E Uni dec to hang with buddies not involved in the dec. Outcome = ganks and boredom. I'm sorry, what the frak are you smoking? Battle 1 Battle 2 Battle 3 Just showing what I was part of over the past few days. The first one put a bunch of kills/losses from earlier and later battles into the same one, which really skewed the statistics. We came out with a much better k/d and ISK ratio on this one. Then, after the second battle is over, you guys come back, with your neutral cyno alts poised on the gate while we are docked up giving out loot. Our Helios pilot relays everything, and we decide not to go after your new battlecruiser gang complete with logistics and carrier support ready to drop. Because we don't have that type of power. So yeah, our balls may "not have dropped" because we didn't fly into your capital-ships-at-the-ready fleet. But we weren't risking it. Third, you guys eventually dropped a sniper 'Geddon on our third battle. And once again, that battle report is skewed as well, since i know we didn't have all those battlecruisers on the field, and you didn't either. But whatever, we aren't complaining about a fun fight. by the way, we took a gang of BCs and cruisers out last night. Stayed out for two hours, and would you believe it? Every member of IFW and the rest of the Minnie's stayed docked. With the exception of a few ganks, it was nothing spectacular. *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.18 19:47:00 - [99] Originally by: Azelor Delaria stuff When you say "you guys", it doesn't apply to me. And balls mean coming out even when you don't have an FC. When I see BS's hiding at your undock rather than coming to kill our 5-man gang... that's nutless.
Kelduum Revaan EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.03.18 20:05:00 - [100] Replying a little late here, but nevertheless just need to clarify a few points as the E-UNI CEO which I don't see covered: - Mara's blog isn't related to E-UNI besides her being an Alumni. We have our own blog, and apologies for this thread being derailed. - Our KB is API verified. Different KBs use different valuations, campaigns are calculated differently, and the API lag may be different between different boards. If you feel a Uni pilot has somehow hacked the board to hide kills, please let me know to I can deal with it. - Our students have had a great opportunity in this war to see several different types of warfare and try to learn how to counter them. Some learn quicker than others, but it is a good chance for them to see different styles of PVP. Overall I'd say we are enjoying this war as a significant difference to the typical wars we have. _____
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.18 22:27:00 - [101] Originally by: Kelduum Revaan - Our KB is API verified. Different KBs use different valuations, campaigns are calculated differently, and the API lag may be different between different boards. If you feel a Uni pilot has somehow hacked the board to hide kills, please let me know to I can deal with it. - Our students have had a great opportunity in this war to see several different types of warfare and try to learn how to counter them. Some learn quicker than others, but it is a good chance for them to see different styles of PVP. Overall I'd say we are enjoying this war as a significant difference to the typical wars we have. If I'm correct, your KB is ran off EVSCO (the same people that run ours) and their server has been having a lot of problems this week. I think some of our guys mistook the lack of lossmails and padding your efficiency when if has more to do with API/server problems. The biggest reason we entered this war was boredom in FW. But it partly had to do with showing E-Uni a style of warfare they may not see often, if ever. I realize you were not interested in a war atm, but I'm still glad everyone is able to have fun. While E-Uni is learning different types of combat, we're able to keeps our skirmish skills from rusting. Oh, also contact me in-game sometime, there's an idea being tossed around I'd like to discuss with you.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.18 23:12:00 - [102] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Nano J Plus the Amarr's balls still haven't dropped and I took the evening off from the E Uni dec to hang with buddies not involved in the dec. Outcome = ganks and boredom. I'm sorry, what the frak are you smoking? Battle 1 Battle 2 Battle 3 Just showing what I was part of over the past few days. The first one put a bunch of kills/losses from earlier and later battles into the same one, which really skewed the statistics. We came out with a much better k/d and ISK ratio on this one. Then, after the second battle is over, you guys come back, with your neutral cyno alts poised on the gate while we are docked up giving out loot. Our Helios pilot relays everything, and we decide not to go after your new battlecruiser gang complete with logistics and carrier support ready to drop. Because we don't have that type of power. So yeah, our balls may "not have dropped" because we didn't fly into your capital-ships-at-the-ready fleet. But we weren't risking it. Third, you guys eventually dropped a sniper 'Geddon on our third battle. And once again, that battle report is skewed as well, since i know we didn't have all those battlecruisers on the field, and you didn't either. But whatever, we aren't complaining about a fun fight. by the way, we took a gang of BCs and cruisers out last night. Stayed out for two hours, and would you believe it? Every member of IFW and the rest of the Minnie's stayed docked. With the exception of a few ganks, it was nothing spectacular. Hello angry rage trollable poster mad dude o/, welcome back the the thread that never stops giving. While I commend your linkage-prowess, I would like to emphasize that on the evenings when IFW isn't roaming Provi or GW or fartin' around in Aldrat we have had very little combat action in the warzone. Bad luck, perhaps? I will not insult our amarrian orange-flashy comrades by suggesting that they saw IFW back in local and said "AMG DOCK NAO", but the though had crossed my mind. Also, Of those engagements you linked you may want to take a closer look. Battle One: Isn't that the one where you lost an Abso a Zealot and a Hookbill? Looks interesting, tbh, shame I wasn't around for that fight. Battle Two: You engaged a mixed bs-bc-frig (mostly frigs) with a BS-BC heavy gang. You actually got a fight, kudos to Minnys for fighting a heavier gang. Battle Three: The Sniper-Geddon in the third battle (the frigs) didn't really turn the tide much, while your fellow militia mate in a Typhoon decided that the duck-and-cover approach was better choice. Same with the Harbs you had on field. Also, LOL Baha got final blow on your Arbi in a Fleet Scythe Issue... epic. Anyways, I hope you are not too mad at having to actually undock and look for fights. It happens. That is all, carry on. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Silence iKillYouu Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.19 00:44:00 - [103] Sneaky is fixed
Vordak Kallager Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.21 08:17:00 - [104] I feel the need to comment on this thread: a) Azelor, that battle #1 you are bragging about? We took 3 BS and a motley crew of BC, Cruisers and Frigates against your significantly larger RRBS fleet with BC support and you are bragging about barely getting a better efficiency than us if you discount our earlier kills? You should be thankful we in AA had a bad case of the Leeroy Jenkins, because any sane pilot probably wouldn't have warped in. In my opinion, it was a fun fight and I'm glad it happened. No need to brag about it. b) IFW fields shiny things. Mara, I've never seen you in anything more expensive than a Vagabond. Not saying flying in ISK-conservative ships is a bad thing, but when people lose those shiny things, they logically deserve the lion's portion of loot, granted the fact that it wasn't a dumb loss and that they played an important contribution to the success of the fleet. c) I've always seen Late Nite portion out loot fairly when we take losses, especially in larger engagements when we are able to hold the field and loot. Even to relative no-names who show up and contribute. I'm not sure where people get the idea that Late Nite doesn't portion out loot fairly, or at least as fair as can be. d) o/ people.
Koronakesh Amarr Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.03.21 15:47:00 - [105] Living up to your Ice Fire **** title, eh Vordak? Loving this thread so far.
Cearain Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.03.21 20:08:00 - [106] Originally by: chatgris Originally by: Karl Planck Not that I love you minnie corps, but I feel like I have to say something here. This statement is pretty nub bro, you can have logistics all you want with ppl that are < -5.0 as long as they don't GCC. Just because you are an outlaw does not cause logistics to go GCC if they rep you. It is ONLY when they rep a GCC'd player that they themselves pull GCC (at which point it shouldn't even matter b/c it doesn't affect sec at all, just gate/station aggro). In factional warfare, if you remote rep a gcc or perma flashy, you lose FACTION STANDING. e.g., if I rep a perma flashy or a gcc, I will lose standing to the gallente federation. Eventually, this can cause a corp to be kicked out of the militia if there are a lot of logi pilots, and regaining the standing is very difficult once you've reached max rank (and no, dropping your rank and then getting it back later does not work). I think I would have gone perma flashy by now if it wasn't for this mechanic in fw. I thought they fixed thisà. Oh yeahà thatÆs right they only fixed this for the carebears in high sec. FWIW: IÆm pretty sure you can petition this and get your standings back. -Cearain Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906
Arianna Satellizer	Posted - 2011.03.21 23:15:00 - [107] Just came in to say hi to my low sec buddies and blinky oranges.
failpirate CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.21 23:17:00 - [108] i felt compelled to post in this thread. that is all. -- this is my sig
Azelor Delaria Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.03.21 23:41:00 - [109] Originally by: failpirate i felt compelled to post in this thread. that is all. FAILPIRATE. 1V1. NOW. *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.21 23:55:00 - [110] Originally by: Cearain Originally by: chatgris Originally by: Karl Planck Not that I love you minnie corps, but I feel like I have to say something here. This statement is pretty nub bro, you can have logistics all you want with ppl that are < -5.0 as long as they don't GCC. Just because you are an outlaw does not cause logistics to go GCC if they rep you. It is ONLY when they rep a GCC'd player that they themselves pull GCC (at which point it shouldn't even matter b/c it doesn't affect sec at all, just gate/station aggro). In factional warfare, if you remote rep a gcc or perma flashy, you lose FACTION STANDING. e.g., if I rep a perma flashy or a gcc, I will lose standing to the gallente federation. Eventually, this can cause a corp to be kicked out of the militia if there are a lot of logi pilots, and regaining the standing is very difficult once you've reached max rank (and no, dropping your rank and then getting it back later does not work). I think I would have gone perma flashy by now if it wasn't for this mechanic in fw. I thought they fixed thisà. Oh yeahà thatÆs right they only fixed this for the carebears in high sec. FWIW: IÆm pretty sure you can petition this and get your standings back. Cool, I'll just file 10 petitions per night. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
San Severina Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.22 07:23:00 - [111] This thread has been entertaining me for nearly 2 Weeks now! I'd just like to thank everybody involved, gf :D __________________________________________________ No sympathy for the Devil! Always remember that....
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.22 07:50:00 - [112] Edited by: Target Painter on 22/03/2011 07:50:54 I am confuse; are people ****ting on E-Uni for being bad or being ineffective? And why are they such a massive part of the drama in this FW blog/thread?
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.22 12:37:00 - [113] Good day: http://killboard.eveuniversity.org/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=10078 shows the following: Damage done (ISK): 4.48B Damage received (ISK): 2.61B Runtime: 11 days Efficiency: 63.14% While Eve University is approaching almost 3 times as many lost ships as IFW, the ISK exchange is in Eve University's favor. And if they are able to salvage.... hmmm... hmmm.. hmmmm. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.22 14:47:00 - [114] Originally by: Mara Abraham Good day: http://killboard.eveuniversity.org/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=10078 shows the following: Damage done (ISK): 4.48B Damage received (ISK): 2.61B Runtime: 11 days Efficiency: 63.14% While Eve University is approaching almost 3 times as many lost ships as IFW, the ISK exchange is in Eve University's favor. And if they are able to salvage.... hmmm... hmmm.. hmmmm. Thank you. i'd point out that that campaign is the combined bs.p and ifw tally before spreading more lies and propaganda about your fellow militia corp ifw. oh. and our evil ooc alts manage to salvage most of the wrecks. but really, only you would make a point about loot whoring and salvaging... and in the end, who cares who won the isk war (besides you)?? The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.22 17:19:00 - [115] Greetings: Eve University cares since they point to such isk losses to those who would consider going to war against them. Since IFW doesn't mind throwing away isk here and there losing a war, that's probably not an issue. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Jengi Gotsen Gallente BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2011.03.22 17:52:00 - [116] Originally by: Mara Abraham Edited by: Mara Abraham on 22/03/2011 17:33:30 Edited by: Mara Abraham on 22/03/2011 17:32:24 Greetings: Eve University cares since they point to such isk losses to those who would consider going to war against them. Meaning, if you are that _________ to throw away isk in fighting us, and you don't mind losing the war, then go ahead and make our day. Since IFW doesn't mind throwing away isk as it looses the war, that's fine. Thank you. Perhaps you should return to the University and defend it against those miscreants who would dare attack. Quote: - Our students have had a great opportunity in this war to see several different types of warfare and try to learn how to counter them. Some learn quicker than others, but it is a good chance for them to see different styles of PVP. Overall I'd say we are enjoying this war as a significant difference to the typical wars we have. Maybe you should stop *****ing, Mara. If the CEO says the war, while unwanted, is good, then what's the problem? They learn and have fun. We learn and have fun. This is how pvp should be - a constantly evolving arena where they figure us out and we figure them out, so we each try something new. Long story short, GSO Mara, BS.P and IFW and IVY are having fun. Why aren't you? :(
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.22 18:23:00 - [117] Good day, Jengi Gotsen: I'm having fun both in FW, and watching the war unfold. I'm glad all sides are having fun. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Flynn Fetladral Caldari BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2011.03.22 20:55:00 - [118] Originally by: Mara Abraham Edited by: Mara Abraham on 22/03/2011 17:33:30 Edited by: Mara Abraham on 22/03/2011 17:32:24 Greetings: Eve University cares since they point to such isk losses to those who would consider going to war against them. Meaning, if you are that _________ to throw away isk in fighting us, and you don't mind losing the war, then go ahead and make our day. Since IFW doesn't mind throwing away isk as it looses the war, that's fine. Thank you. I've personally not taken part in the epic fleets, mostly cos I am in bed fast asleep. But regardless, I don't think this is about winning or losing. It's about having some lulz and good fights. I see the few IFW and BS.P pilots going up against massive odds and trying out different things, seems like everyone is a winner to me. Follow Flynn on Twitter
Dracon Darkstar Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.22 21:04:00 - [119] Originally by: Mara Abraham Edited by: Mara Abraham on 22/03/2011 17:33:30 Edited by: Mara Abraham on 22/03/2011 17:32:24 Greetings: Eve University cares since they point to such isk losses to those who would consider going to war against them. Meaning, if you are that _________ to throw away isk in fighting us, and you don't mind losing the war, then go ahead and make our day. Since IFW doesn't mind throwing away isk as it looses the war, that's fine. Thank you. Please link where a current Eve Uni pilot has pointed this out.. And isk ratio is not everything in wars and pvp..If that's all you look at you are missing out on a lot of what pvp is. Confirming Mara is an AdamusMaximus alt or sibling.
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.22 22:21:00 - [120] Originally by: Mara Abraham Eve University cares since they point to such isk losses to those who would consider going to war against them. Meaning, if you are that _________ to throw away isk in fighting us, and you don't mind losing the war, then go ahead and make our day. Are you in E-UNI, let alone a representative for them? We realize E-UNI care about isk efficiency. They realize we care about fun. We also realize that the fits they use during war is designed for isk efficiency (no rigs, no t2 mods). And don't tell me they're all noobs so they don't have the skills to fit things like small rigs and t2 overdrives. You've already been proven an idiot for your lies about IFW. Now you're posting updates about us "losing" our war on E-UNI? If E-UNI defines war by isk efficiency, fine. 50 t1 frigs suicided to kill a BS would always win. We didn't enter this war to win or lose, we entered to have fun. We've had a blast- that's a win for most people. Ignoring that, we've been fighting 1:10 odds and their efficiency is only 63%? Given that they're a blob of noobs, that's still pretty impressive for our 10 taking on 100. If you don't like us Mara, then shut up and dec us already. Since we're failing so bad in our war against noobs, it shouldn't be hard for one of the BEST minmatar corps to stomp us, eh? Otherwise if all you're going to do is damage control and spout stats about IFW, consider this the last time I respectfully indulge the cries for attention you so desperately think you deserve.
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.22 22:46:00 - [121] Hi Nano J: You or anyone else from IFW has yet to prove I'm lying about anything Nano J, whom stated I did not like IFW? ### "Confirming Mara is an AdamusMaximus" Well, someone stated I was Sneaky Noob's alt... I'm not sure if I want to confirm or deny that fact as Sneaky and Silent have been teaching me how to troll. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Sharra Savente Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.23 01:12:00 - [122] Mara last time i checked you have yet to provide any evidence that IFW has helped the Amarr kill friendly militia members. Untill you can provide concrete evidence then that is certainly a lie.
unbless83	Posted - 2011.03.23 03:55:00 - [123] im of the opinion that looting of anything and the consequences, should merely refer to the standard game mechanics... yes you can loot from any wreck, whether you make it back to the station alive with the loot is another matter entirely. ppl can choose to rage about it and shoot the player responsible for 15 mins (dur). if the thought of someone hard done by persueing you outside that 15 min window is unsettling you have options... 1. gtfo of lowsec 2. steal from the wreck knowing that ur ****ing someone off, its not like the wrecks arent labelled with a corp ticker its a sandbox game and newtonian physiscs apply to the choices you make. shock and horror if anyone decides that looting prowess become something of an artform... get over it...thats eve
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.23 05:09:00 - [124] Originally by: unbless83 im of the opinion that looting of anything and the consequences, should merely refer to the standard game mechanics... yes you can loot from any wreck, whether you make it back to the station alive with the loot is another matter entirely. ppl can choose to rage about it and shoot the player responsible for 15 mins (dur). if the thought of someone hard done by persueing you outside that 15 min window is unsettling you have options... 1. gtfo of lowsec 2. steal from the wreck knowing that ur ***ing someone off, its not like the wrecks arent labelled with a corp ticker its a sandbox game and newtonian physiscs apply to the choices you make. shock and horror if anyone decides that looting prowess become something of an artform... get over it...thats eve that's some quality advice there, you should talk to your corpmate about that. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE* -------
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.23 07:54:00 - [125] News just in...... Mara was spotted in Amarr Intel channels giving away fleet positions and compositions. That is all. Jasper
jasper beamsalot Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.23 07:56:00 - [126] Originally by: Mara Abraham Hi Nano J: You or anyone else from IFW has yet to prove I'm lying about anything just quoting encase of edits
Nano J	Posted - 2011.03.23 07:57:00 - [127] Originally by: jasper beamsalot News just in...... Mara was spotted in Amarr Intel channels giving away fleet positions and compositions. That is all. Jasper Confirmed. A well-placed spy has intercepted conversations between Mara and Amarr war targets discussing IFW shiptypes and locations.
I Legionnaire Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.03.23 08:34:00 - [128] I approve of the :butthurt: in this thread. That is all.
tagen young Caldari The Night Witch	Posted - 2011.03.23 11:15:00 - [129] Originally by: Nano J Originally by: jasper beamsalot News just in...... Mara was spotted in Amarr Intel channels giving away fleet positions and compositions. That is all. Jasper Confirmed. A well-placed spy has intercepted conversations between Mara and Amarr war targets discussing IFW shiptypes and locations. Seriously this is getting stupid, people really need to back away from this. Oddly I was there during lootgate and also when Mara went RP crazy while fighting dark rising. So my view is probably more balanced than those involved. For the good of the republic lets just kill Amarr.
Belle Tristesse	Posted - 2011.03.23 11:29:00 - [130] Originally by: tagen young Originally by: Nano J Originally by: jasper beamsalot News just in...... Mara was spotted in Amarr Intel channels giving away fleet positions and compositions. That is all. Jasper Confirmed. A well-placed spy has intercepted conversations between Mara and Amarr war targets discussing IFW shiptypes and locations. Seriously this is getting stupid, people really need to back away from this. Oddly I was there during lootgate and also when Mara went RP crazy while fighting dark rising. So my view is probably more balanced than those involved. For the good of the republic lets just kill Amarr. Confirming that this thread is dumb. This whole recurring issue has been nothing but pain for those who come within 100k of its toxic **** cloud. Srly. NO ONE CARES. Apart from the usually divided Amarr of course, who are united in laughing their asses off. Posted on an alt for minimum fuss.
Karl Planck Walt Disney Productions	Posted - 2011.03.23 14:28:00 - [131] I don't know if we are all laughing, but I sure am. ------------------------------------------------- Don't debate with morons. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Karl Planck Walt Disney Productions	Posted - 2011.03.23 14:58:00 - [132] Mara, btw, I do like the blog. Well written and fun for a break at work. In your last blog you talk about ratting for sec. Even though you are the enemy, i feel obligated to tell you that you could make your endeavors for sec much more beneficial. I am will to share some very lucrative info with you (out of respect for being a respectable warrior). However, this will not come free. If you are interested in what I have to offer I request that you meet me on the battlefield in an opportunity for me to test your skill (the only time I have REALLY faced you was that 3v1 against my griffin lol). Send me a mail in game if your interested. ------------------------------------------------- Don't debate with morons. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.23 16:07:00 - [133] Greetings Karl: I fly solo a lot; and the time with the griffin and the others was solo on my part. I would be interested in a one vs. one either griffin vs. griffin; and if that's not an option, then anything frigate hull except griffins. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Karl Planck Walt Disney Productions	Posted - 2011.03.23 16:10:00 - [134] Sounds good, next time i see you online we will arrange something ------------------------------------------------- Don't debate with morons. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.23 17:37:00 - [135] Edited by: Mara Abraham on 23/03/2011 17:37:27 Good day, Nano J: If you and your IFW comrades want to put together an article on your view of war with Eve University, less any Mara punches and the like (smile), I will publish it on http://www.factionalwarfare.info/. If you want to include any screen shots or for me to use http://eve-combat-logs.appspot.com/ to parse the combat log files (which can typically be found in C:\Users\[your user id]\Documents\EVE\logs\Gamelogs) please email them to [email protected] The only editing that would be done include grammar and spelling corrections along with pulling any Mara bashing that may have accidentally got into the article; if no screen shots were provided, editing would include putting in one to several pictures. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Cearain Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.03.23 17:59:00 - [136] Actually I would encourage you to do this. That way maybe they will fix this. Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Cearain Originally by: chatgris Originally by: Karl Planck Not that I love you minnie corps, but I feel like I have to say something here. This statement is pretty nub bro, you can have logistics all you want with ppl that are < -5.0 as long as they don't GCC. Just because you are an outlaw does not cause logistics to go GCC if they rep you. It is ONLY when they rep a GCC'd player that they themselves pull GCC (at which point it shouldn't even matter b/c it doesn't affect sec at all, just gate/station aggro). In factional warfare, if you remote rep a gcc or perma flashy, you lose FACTION STANDING. e.g., if I rep a perma flashy or a gcc, I will lose standing to the gallente federation. Eventually, this can cause a corp to be kicked out of the militia if there are a lot of logi pilots, and regaining the standing is very difficult once you've reached max rank (and no, dropping your rank and then getting it back later does not work). I think I would have gone perma flashy by now if it wasn't for this mechanic in fw. I thought they fixed thisà. Oh yeahà thatÆs right they only fixed this for the carebears in high sec. FWIW: IÆm pretty sure you can petition this and get your standings back. Cool, I'll just file 10 petitions per night. -Liang -Cearain Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.24 03:30:00 - [137] Greetings: Karl and I had one of the better T1 frigate one vs. one I've had in a while with the fight lasting a little over three minutes. Karl was the better pilot in the end, and his Merlin beat my Rifter fairly. Karl did honor the information exchange; thank you. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
nasty1 Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.26 18:30:00 - [138] STOP T.R.I.A.D lets move on IFW's are cool with good guys and one of the best fc's in the game end of. .....T.R.I.A.D.....

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