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 Varia    |
Posted - 2005.02.02 19:44:00 -
[1] Not sure whats happening here but since patch i've noticed liquid Ozone fuel is being consumed at a faster rate than the rest. Last night I checked my pos and was shocked to find my pos was almost out of power grid fuel, which i thought was a little strange so I refueled my pos for 8 days 15 hrs. I've just check my pos again and all fuels are down to 7 days 18 which is fine except for power which is down to 7 days 6 hours. So pos owners out there i would check your fuel status. I'll file a bug petition. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
 Varia Gallente |
Posted - 2005.02.02 19:44:00 -
[2] Not sure whats happening here but since patch i've noticed liquid Ozone fuel is being consumed at a faster rate than the rest. Last night I checked my pos and was shocked to find my pos was almost out of power grid fuel, which i thought was a little strange so I refueled my pos for 8 days 15 hrs. I've just check my pos again and all fuels are down to 7 days 18 which is fine except for power which is down to 7 days 6 hours. So pos owners out there i would check your fuel status. I'll file a bug petition. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
 Lagartija Nick |
Posted - 2005.02.11 12:35:00 -
[3] Indeed, our POS is burning fuel faster then it should be as well. POS owners are well advised that they should check their fuel rates. I've also filed a bug petition, but this has a far greater implication of being a very expensive bug if not fixed, like now. I'm burning 2 days of certain fuel types per day right now it seems. |
 Lagartija Nick Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.11 12:35:00 -
[4] Indeed, our POS is burning fuel faster then it should be as well. POS owners are well advised that they should check their fuel rates. I've also filed a bug petition, but this has a far greater implication of being a very expensive bug if not fixed, like now. I'm burning 2 days of certain fuel types per day right now it seems. |
 Varia |
Posted - 2005.02.11 13:15:00 -
[5] To confirm it's still happening to me. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Varia Gallente |
Posted - 2005.02.11 13:15:00 -
[6] To confirm it's still happening to me. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
 Xlex Prime |
Posted - 2005.02.11 14:22:00 -
[7] I discovered this problem a few weeks ago and petitioned it twice and submitted bug report on it twice. There are a few stations we have that are doing this. I am a bit ****ed that it is not fixed yet because we are losing money on all this extra fuel. .. |
 Xlex Prime |
Posted - 2005.02.11 14:22:00 -
[8] I discovered this problem a few weeks ago and petitioned it twice and submitted bug report on it twice. There are a few stations we have that are doing this. I am a bit ****ed that it is not fixed yet because we are losing money on all this extra fuel. .. |
Tas Devil |
Posted - 2005.02.11 15:16:00 -
[9] Can we have details as to your POS race type and the fuel consumption that seems to have increased please ? that is behaving improperly ? |
 Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom |
Posted - 2005.02.11 15:16:00 -
[10] Can we have details as to your POS race type and the fuel consumption that seems to have increased please ? that is behaving improperly ? Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware |
Lagartija Nick |
Posted - 2005.02.11 17:51:00 -
[11] We've got a gallente tower, and at least with liquid ozone its burning about 2 days fuel for everday that goes by, I suspect that some of the other fuel types are a little off as well, but wont have confirmation till about 6 tonight. And yeah, It's not cool at all, especially with increased ice product prices right now. |
Lagartija Nick Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.11 17:51:00 -
[12] We've got a gallente tower, and at least with liquid ozone its burning about 2 days fuel for everday that goes by, I suspect that some of the other fuel types are a little off as well, but wont have confirmation till about 6 tonight. And yeah, It's not cool at all, especially with increased ice product prices right now. |
Crystal Girl |
Posted - 2005.02.12 06:19:00 -
[13] Edited by: Crystal Girl on 12/02/2005 06:20:31 The situation is this. Stations were built. They were setup with a lot of defense and such. Later, many modules were turned off to save fuels. I would say 50% of the guns were turned off or something. The station management reports that there is say 20 days Ozone left. If you check the station 24 hours later it will report 16 days ozone left, which is not good. 4 of our stations do this so far with water and ozone. ----------------- The only thing I have not tried to correct the problem is: A. Unanchor modules that are offline and stick them in the hangar array. B. Tear down the POS 100% and rebuild it from scratch. ------------- Things I have tried: 1. Track fuel hour by hour by camping the POS all day and trying to catch a bad fuel calculation. 2. Took entire POS offline and onlined it again. ----------------- This is not easy to repeat either. We have POS that are setup the same and have some modules offline to conserve fuel, but it burn fuel properly. Conclusions: It sucks and makes me sad because it's been like this for at least a month. I am going to have to take 20 hours to tear each one down and rebuild it in hopes the bug will go away. I'm not happy. :( I have done bug reports two times in detail and corp mates have as well. Also, we use Caldari Towers. |
 Crystal Girl |
Posted - 2005.02.12 06:19:00 -
[14] Edited by: Crystal Girl on 12/02/2005 06:20:31 The situation is this. Stations were built. They were setup with a lot of defense and such. Later, many modules were turned off to save fuels. I would say 50% of the guns were turned off or something. The station management reports that there is say 20 days Ozone left. If you check the station 24 hours later it will report 16 days ozone left, which is not good. 4 of our stations do this so far with water and ozone. ----------------- The only thing I have not tried to correct the problem is: A. Unanchor modules that are offline and stick them in the hangar array. B. Tear down the POS 100% and rebuild it from scratch. ------------- Things I have tried: 1. Track fuel hour by hour by camping the POS all day and trying to catch a bad fuel calculation. 2. Took entire POS offline and onlined it again. ----------------- This is not easy to repeat either. We have POS that are setup the same and have some modules offline to conserve fuel, but it burn fuel properly. Conclusions: It sucks and makes me sad because it's been like this for at least a month. I am going to have to take 20 hours to tear each one down and rebuild it in hopes the bug will go away. I'm not happy. :( I have done bug reports two times in detail and corp mates have as well. Also, we use Caldari Towers. |
 Lagartija Nick |
Posted - 2005.02.12 07:39:00 -
[15] Well, there goes the idea that its restricted to gallente towers. I was thinking about switching tower types to avoid this :/ |
Lagartija Nick Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.12 07:39:00 -
[16] Well, there goes the idea that its restricted to gallente towers. I was thinking about switching tower types to avoid this :/ |
 Varia |
Posted - 2005.02.12 23:01:00 -
[17] I'm using an Amarr CT and only noticed the bug after the last pos patch. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Varia Gallente |
Posted - 2005.02.12 23:01:00 -
[18] I'm using an Amarr CT and only noticed the bug after the last pos patch. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
bUBbLeS |
Posted - 2005.02.13 14:37:00 -
[19] today i noticed that this is happening to my Caldarii tower i am using maybe 40% power, but the tower is consuming as if i was using 100% power i have never had more than 40% power usage, and this just appears to of happened this week last week i mined the same amount of ice, put in the same amount of stuff into the POS and got 9 days fuel this week its 5 1/2 days this really sux and needs fixing NOW cAKe |
 bUBbLeS Minmatar |
Posted - 2005.02.13 14:37:00 -
[20] today i noticed that this is happening to my Caldarii tower i am using maybe 40% power, but the tower is consuming as if i was using 100% power i have never had more than 40% power usage, and this just appears to of happened this week last week i mined the same amount of ice, put in the same amount of stuff into the POS and got 9 days fuel this week its 5 1/2 days this really sux and needs fixing NOW cAKe |
 Varia |
Posted - 2005.02.14 09:53:00 -
[21] Not only will it need fixing but Reimbursement of all the extra fuel it's used. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Varia Gallente |
Posted - 2005.02.14 09:53:00 -
[22] Not only will it need fixing but Reimbursement of all the extra fuel it's used. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
 Lagartija Nick |
Posted - 2005.02.15 12:25:00 -
[23] Anyone had an answer on their petitions on this yet? I'm still waiting on an 11 day support ticket and getting really, really frustrated. |
Lagartija Nick Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.15 12:25:00 -
[24] Anyone had an answer on their petitions on this yet? I'm still waiting on an 11 day support ticket and getting really, really frustrated. |
 Varia |
Posted - 2005.02.15 14:46:00 -
[25] I've had a support reply but I don't think i'm allowed to post it due to the forum rules  Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Varia Gallente |
Posted - 2005.02.15 14:46:00 -
[26] I've had a support reply but I don't think i'm allowed to post it due to the forum rules Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Droidster |
Posted - 2005.02.16 17:19:00 -
[27] Spit it out carebear. Use pig latin. _____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK. |
 Droidster |
Posted - 2005.02.16 17:19:00 -
[28] Spit it out carebear. Use pig latin. _____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK. |
 Lagartija Nick |
Posted - 2005.02.16 18:15:00 -
[29] Edited by: Lagartija Nick on 16/02/2005 18:19:57  Or just dance around it, surely you can give us a general idea of what the deal is without posting the main jive. I finally got my support ticket answered as well, sent them a reply linking this thread so they don't think I'm just making this up. |
Lagartija Nick Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.16 18:15:00 -
[30] Edited by: Lagartija Nick on 16/02/2005 18:19:57 Or just dance around it, surely you can give us a general idea of what the deal is without posting the main jive. I finally got my support ticket answered as well, sent them a reply linking this thread so they don't think I'm just making this up. |
Bobby Wilson |
Posted - 2005.02.17 04:27:00 -
[31] One of my Amarr CT's is doing this, and it's eating ALL fuels too fast, some even faster than others. Liquid ozone is the ugliest, which is odd since it really doesn't use more than maybe 30% of the CT's total grid. BW
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 Bobby Wilson Gallente |
Posted - 2005.02.17 04:27:00 -
[32] One of my Amarr CT's is doing this, and it's eating ALL fuels too fast, some even faster than others. Liquid ozone is the ugliest, which is odd since it really doesn't use more than maybe 30% of the CT's total grid. BW |
 ollobrains |
Posted - 2005.02.17 06:23:00 -
[33] i reckon this bug or whatever it is should be left by needing to add extra oxygen - it will create more demand side for oxygen and encourage more manufacturers to make oxygen outputs ? It will also take extra supply out of the game to a degree and partly help allievaite the inflation problem Extra oxygen trading could be a good thing i have thought it was underutilisied as is. |
 ollobrains Crimson Crusaders Xelas Alliance |
Posted - 2005.02.17 06:23:00 -
[34] i reckon this bug or whatever it is should be left by needing to add extra oxygen - it will create more demand side for oxygen and encourage more manufacturers to make oxygen outputs ? It will also take extra supply out of the game to a degree and partly help allievaite the inflation problem Extra oxygen trading could be a good thing i have thought it was underutilisied as is. All posts made by myself represent my personal opinion only - they do not represent the rest of the privateer alliacne unless they decide to agree with what im saying |
Varia |
Posted - 2005.02.17 09:34:00 -
[35]
Carebear! Start whistling boy because youÆre not getting anything out of me. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Varia Gallente |
Posted - 2005.02.17 09:34:00 -
[36]
Carebear! Start whistling boy because youÆre not getting anything out of me. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Varia |
Posted - 2005.02.17 10:03:00 -
[37] Edited by: Varia on 17/02/2005 10:05:00 I doubt any of you would like the reply I got, needless to say every one should send in bug reports with as much details as possible. I also hope all pos owners will receive a refund of some kind once this bug has been confirmed and rectified. Oh and Droidster please ignore everything I just said, such a rude boy  Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Varia Gallente |
Posted - 2005.02.17 10:03:00 -
[38] Edited by: Varia on 17/02/2005 10:05:00 I doubt any of you would like the reply I got, needless to say every one should send in bug reports with as much details as possible. I also hope all pos owners will receive a refund of some kind once this bug has been confirmed and rectified. Oh and Droidster please ignore everything I just said, such a rude boy Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Lagartija Nick |
Posted - 2005.02.17 12:17:00 -
[39] Edited by: Lagartija Nick on 17/02/2005 12:22:48
Yeah... |
Lagartija Nick Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.17 12:17:00 -
[40] Edited by: Lagartija Nick on 17/02/2005 12:22:48
Yeah... |
Nemiona |
Posted - 2005.02.17 14:45:00 -
[41]
afaik you can tell what it says in your own words, but youre not allowed to quote them... ------ The future, according to some scientists, will be exactly like the past, only far more expensive. John Sladek |
 Nemiona Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter |
Posted - 2005.02.17 14:45:00 -
[42]
afaik you can tell what it says in your own words, but youre not allowed to quote them... ------ The future, according to some scientists, will be exactly like the past, only far more expensive. John Sladek |
WarChiId |
Posted - 2005.02.17 21:03:00 -
[43] I think our POS is doing it too... gathering data now |
 WarChiId Minmatar VVS Corporition |
Posted - 2005.02.17 21:03:00 -
[44] I think our POS is doing it too... gathering data now |
Tas Devil |
Posted - 2005.02.19 11:42:00 -
[45] our POS did it... only thing we had to do to correct it is unanchor and re-anchor the faulty modules... (we keep an intensive refinery array at POS but use it only once or twice a week...) we onlined it and ran a few refines on a given day...and when offlined it pos fuel consumption was off.... so I unanchored and re anchored module...and it is back to normal  |
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom |
Posted - 2005.02.19 11:42:00 -
[46] our POS did it... only thing we had to do to correct it is unanchor and re-anchor the faulty modules... (we keep an intensive refinery array at POS but use it only once or twice a week...) we onlined it and ran a few refines on a given day...and when offlined it pos fuel consumption was off.... so I unanchored and re anchored module...and it is back to normal Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware |
 Archbishop |
Posted - 2005.02.19 14:31:00 -
[47]
Tas can you clarify what you mean by "the faulty modules"? How did you identify specifically which modules around your POS were causing this problem? Also how much time did you spend toal with the reanchoring (isn't it like 10min to put online for each or something like that?). Thanks, Archbishop  VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER |
 Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc. |
Posted - 2005.02.19 14:31:00 -
[48]
Tas can you clarify what you mean by "the faulty modules"? How did you identify specifically which modules around your POS were causing this problem? Also how much time did you spend toal with the reanchoring (isn't it like 10min to put online for each or something like that?). Thanks, Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER |
 Chucky |
Posted - 2005.02.20 17:45:00 -
[49] Minmatar POS's aswell, we need DEV input here Please  ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
 Chucky |
Posted - 2005.02.20 17:45:00 -
[50] Minmatar POS's aswell, we need DEV input here Please ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
Tas Devil |
Posted - 2005.02.20 23:12:00 -
[51] The faulty module was the intensive refinery array ... only one we keep onlining and offlining as we have a need for it and fuel consumption is high for that module... we only online it once we have a full refine.... offlining it is instantaneous but unanchoring it takes 1 hr I think... then another 30 minutes to reanchor it.... adds time to the whole process...but our consumption is back to normal now  |
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom |
Posted - 2005.02.20 23:12:00 -
[52] The faulty module was the intensive refinery array ... only one we keep onlining and offlining as we have a need for it and fuel consumption is high for that module... we only online it once we have a full refine.... offlining it is instantaneous but unanchoring it takes 1 hr I think... then another 30 minutes to reanchor it.... adds time to the whole process...but our consumption is back to normal now Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware |
 Rubixx |
Posted - 2005.02.21 14:13:00 -
[53] Well now this is strange, We have a Minmatar POS and I have had one of my guys do spreadsheets for the pos and it calculates the ratio and volume of all the fuels against the total m3 available, giving us an equal portion to all fuels. The results show that all fuels are equally measured except, we have far MORE days worth of liquid ozone and hvy water than we should have ?!?! Only thing I can think thats causing this is the fact were not at 100% cpu and grid usage but we also have a mobile refinery (never been onlined and a reactor also never been onlined) wether that makes a difference or not I dont know, Baffled :S |
 Rubixx |
Posted - 2005.02.21 14:13:00 -
[54] Well now this is strange, We have a Minmatar POS and I have had one of my guys do spreadsheets for the pos and it calculates the ratio and volume of all the fuels against the total m3 available, giving us an equal portion to all fuels. The results show that all fuels are equally measured except, we have far MORE days worth of liquid ozone and hvy water than we should have ?!?! Only thing I can think thats causing this is the fact were not at 100% cpu and grid usage but we also have a mobile refinery (never been onlined and a reactor also never been onlined) wether that makes a difference or not I dont know, Baffled :S |
Lagartija Nick |
Posted - 2005.02.21 18:27:00 -
[55] Rubixx, thats just because your not using 100% of the output of your tower. If you were using all your CPU and grid you'd probably be burning fuel at the expected rates. And FYI, I do not have a refinery at our station and it's doing it, so it's not that module alone. |
Lagartija Nick Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.21 18:27:00 -
[56] Rubixx, thats just because your not using 100% of the output of your tower. If you were using all your CPU and grid you'd probably be burning fuel at the expected rates. And FYI, I do not have a refinery at our station and it's doing it, so it's not that module alone. |
Xlex Dos |
Posted - 2005.02.25 06:38:00 -
[57] Omg this bug is still making me crazy. It is simply related to having modules offline. We would start off with a lot of stuff online, but then cut back to save fuel. Turning off the modules starts the bug and so far people have fixed it by unanchoring the modules and reanchoring them. This is a bunch of crap though because of the time involved in unanchoring and anchoring. ---------- Anyone who runs a POS and has just modules needed and they are all online all the time will not see the bug. It is making me nuts though because we have so many pos with this problem. It screws us all up for fuel planning. NOT TO MENTION the isk loss for fuels wasted. I submitted this bug a month or so ago two times. If this is not fixed, I am gonna be a sad panda. Xlex |
 Xlex Dos |
Posted - 2005.02.25 06:38:00 -
[58] Omg this bug is still making me crazy. It is simply related to having modules offline. We would start off with a lot of stuff online, but then cut back to save fuel. Turning off the modules starts the bug and so far people have fixed it by unanchoring the modules and reanchoring them. This is a bunch of crap though because of the time involved in unanchoring and anchoring. ---------- Anyone who runs a POS and has just modules needed and they are all online all the time will not see the bug. It is making me nuts though because we have so many pos with this problem. It screws us all up for fuel planning. NOT TO MENTION the isk loss for fuels wasted. I submitted this bug a month or so ago two times. If this is not fixed, I am gonna be a sad panda. Xlex |
Dantes Darkheart |
Posted - 2005.02.27 21:30:00 -
[59] Exactly where does it state that fuel requirements to power a POS is directly proportional to the power usage?? I've never seen anything to this effect. Please post a link to it. ====================================== Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler "I'm kept warm by my hatred of the POS implementation." |
 Dantes Darkheart Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.27 21:30:00 -
[60] Exactly where does it state that fuel requirements to power a POS is directly proportional to the power usage?? I've never seen anything to this effect. Please post a link to it. ====================================== Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler "I'm kept warm by my hatred of the POS implementation." |
Dantes Darkheart |
Posted - 2005.03.02 11:12:00 -
[61] I'm assuming the lack of response means no one knows where this was officially stated? ====================================== Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler "I'm kept warm by my hatred of the POS implementation." |
Dantes Darkheart Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.03.02 11:12:00 -
[62] I'm assuming the lack of response means no one knows where this was officially stated? ====================================== Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler "I'm kept warm by my hatred of the POS implementation." |
Lagartija Nick |
Posted - 2005.03.04 03:38:00 -
[63] To my knowledge there hasn't been anything officially stated anywhere about it, but it does affect your fuel consumption based on CPU and Powergrid usage. But only LO and HW. Everything else is constant. |
Lagartija Nick Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.03.04 03:38:00 -
[64] To my knowledge there hasn't been anything officially stated anywhere about it, but it does affect your fuel consumption based on CPU and Powergrid usage. But only LO and HW. Everything else is constant. |
Dantes Darkheart |
Posted - 2005.03.04 13:18:00 -
[65] Thanks, I wasn't paying attention to the isotopes specifically. I was looking at everything and didn't notice anything change. The same thing was told to me last night on the POS FUNTIME channel. I'll have to implement this with the other POS operators. ====================================== Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler "I'm kept warm by my hatred of the POS implementation." |
Dantes Darkheart Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.03.04 13:18:00 -
[66] Thanks, I wasn't paying attention to the isotopes specifically. I was looking at everything and didn't notice anything change. The same thing was told to me last night on the POS FUNTIME channel. I'll have to implement this with the other POS operators. ====================================== Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler "I'm kept warm by my hatred of the POS implementation." |
ShawT |
Posted - 2005.04.01 11:36:00 -
[67] Amar CT ours use 3 days of Heavy Water after every DT |
 ShawT |
Posted - 2005.04.01 11:36:00 -
[68] Amar CT ours use 3 days of Heavy Water after every DT |
LtCol RTButts |
Posted - 2005.04.01 14:09:00 -
[69]
they must work step by step. we re still waiting to get all the turrent bonuses working since the start, right ? so, step by step |
 LtCol RTButts Dirty Rotten Imbeciles |
Posted - 2005.04.01 14:09:00 -
[70]
they must work step by step. we re still waiting to get all the turrent bonuses working since the start, right ? so, step by step |
Dian Cecht |
Posted - 2005.04.09 16:14:00 -
[71] Edited by: Dian Cecht on 09/04/2005 16:14:51 Logged a petition today. This is now starting to become an expensive bug for us. It is difficult enough to run a POS, without something like this. This is also a very dangerous bug... I turned up out POS one day to find all the defence offline. Would CCP reimburse a destroyed POS as a result of this bug? |
 Dian Cecht Omnicorp Enterprises |
Posted - 2005.04.09 16:14:00 -
[72] Edited by: Dian Cecht on 09/04/2005 16:14:51 Logged a petition today. This is now starting to become an expensive bug for us. It is difficult enough to run a POS, without something like this. This is also a very dangerous bug... I turned up out POS one day to find all the defence offline. Would CCP reimburse a destroyed POS as a result of this bug? |
Shenro |
Posted - 2005.04.11 23:25:00 -
[73]
Do they ever reimburse people because of bugs? 2005.04.05 19:01:31 combat Your Medium Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Brothel, wrecking for 260.3 damage. |
 Shenro Amarr |
Posted - 2005.04.11 23:25:00 -
[74]
Do they ever reimburse people because of bugs? 2005.04.05 19:01:31 combat Your Medium Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Brothel, wrecking for 260.3 damage. |
 Blue Trucker |
Posted - 2005.04.14 06:10:00 -
[75] Well... I'm just gathering info to build our own POS. I don't really like the fact this is happening - and no response from CCP. This is really crap then. We're not a big corp, we could run a POS if all was optimal (barely), but as long this happens... Not with me. |
 Blue Trucker |
Posted - 2005.04.14 06:10:00 -
[76] Well... I'm just gathering info to build our own POS. I don't really like the fact this is happening - and no response from CCP. This is really crap then. We're not a big corp, we could run a POS if all was optimal (barely), but as long this happens... Not with me. |
Ayeleen |
Posted - 2005.04.17 08:26:00 -
[77] Is this still an issue, or has it been fixed? |
 Ayeleen Caldari InQuest Ascension |
Posted - 2005.04.17 08:26:00 -
[78] Is this still an issue, or has it been fixed? |
Lagartija Nick |
Posted - 2005.04.17 18:15:00 -
[79] Still an issue. |
Lagartija Nick Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.04.17 18:15:00 -
[80] Still an issue. |
EvilDoomer |
Posted - 2005.04.17 21:24:00 -
[81]
I had 4 hrs of fuel left. I was having problems setting my harvester up. then I noticed i Could not get it back online. Liquid ozone out. total time 30 minutes top. now out of fuel. And I cannot find liquid Ozone anywhere close to where I have my station and yes its in empire. I will petition. And what is going to be done. I have to shut my station down. Again wasting 3 days and 100 mil. Thanks EvilDoomer Chicago Mobsters ** Ghost Fleet Pilot ** |
 EvilDoomer Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2005.04.17 21:24:00 -
[82]
I had 4 hrs of fuel left. I was having problems setting my harvester up. then I noticed i Could not get it back online. Liquid ozone out. total time 30 minutes top. now out of fuel. And I cannot find liquid Ozone anywhere close to where I have my station and yes its in empire. I will petition. And what is going to be done. I have to shut my station down. Again wasting 3 days and 100 mil. Thanks EvilDoomer Chicago Mobsters In-Game Channel:DAMOB Wooof wooooof |
Lord Draco |
Posted - 2005.04.17 21:31:00 -
[83] I've come to the conclusion POS are at the very bottom of importance for CCP. Thanks for Edodus. If you put 1/100thy of the effort into fixing POS's as one ******* agent mission we'd get on oug goddam knees. I love relogging every 5 miniutes so I can load a gun with ammo. I love moon scanning, it is so indepth and well thought out. I love mining ice, its so stimulating. CCP, you have failed! |
 Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.04.17 21:31:00 -
[84] I've come to the conclusion POS are at the very bottom of importance for CCP. Thanks for Edodus. If you put 1/100thy of the effort into fixing POS's as one ******* agent mission we'd get on oug goddam knees. I love relogging every 5 miniutes so I can load a gun with ammo. I love moon scanning, it is so indepth and well thought out. I love mining ice, its so stimulating. CCP, you have failed! |
 Varia |
Posted - 2005.04.18 14:17:00 -
[85] The only way i've found to resolve this bug is too take down the pos and setup a new one. Currently touch wood all seems okay Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Varia Gallente |
Posted - 2005.04.18 14:17:00 -
[86] The only way i've found to resolve this bug is too take down the pos and setup a new one. Currently touch wood all seems okay Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Skelator |
Posted - 2005.04.18 20:21:00 -
[87] Edited by: Skelator on 19/04/2005 00:21:22 We are experiencing this same problem. 10 days of fuel .. 2 days later offline and empty. i have filed a petition also on the matter. One of the other corps I know put 17 days worth of heavy water and such in one of its pos stations. Then went back out there and it was offline and empty in (3) days. Unanchoring all and reanchoring will not work Im afraid because you need to offline the Silos to get the product out. It takes 20k seconds to unanchor a silo alone not counting the time to reanchor it and put it online. Hopefully CCPm will help us all out and also give me a clear answer on our Petitions.. Moderators can we get this stickied until we can get a DEV response? They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
 Skelator Stronghold corp Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2005.04.18 20:21:00 -
[88] Edited by: Skelator on 19/04/2005 00:21:22 We are experiencing this same problem. 10 days of fuel .. 2 days later offline and empty. i have filed a petition also on the matter. One of the other corps I know put 17 days worth of heavy water and such in one of its pos stations. Then went back out there and it was offline and empty in (3) days. Unanchoring all and reanchoring will not work Im afraid because you need to offline the Silos to get the product out. It takes 20k seconds to unanchor a silo alone not counting the time to reanchor it and put it online. Hopefully CCPm will help us all out and also give me a clear answer on our Petitions.. Moderators can we get this stickied until we can get a DEV response? |
smegma |
Posted - 2005.04.19 03:39:00 -
[89] Stickie?? till we can get a DEV to look at this post?.  |
 Sir MilBanacky Stronghold corp Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2005.04.19 03:39:00 -
[90] Stickie?? till we can get a DEV to look at this post?. |
Don Carn'age |
Posted - 2005.04.19 10:26:00 -
[91] lack of dev posts would suggest they are busy beavering away at this "feature" and it will be stealth fixed some time SoonÖ (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination. |
 Don Carn'age Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.04.19 10:26:00 -
[92] lack of dev posts would suggest they are busy beavering away at this "feature" and it will be stealth fixed some time SoonÖ Don Carn'age CEO Black Vice |
Kin Hanyerec |
Posted - 2005.04.19 10:55:00 -
[93]
i had that problem too so i calculated the fuel consumption speed for cpu and pg. what i found is that the pos uses around 100lo/h even if you use 0 pg. I think there's a minimum fuel usage for large cts: this prolly to make people use small cts for pos with a few structures. In the end i went ahead the problem and i'm increasing my pg use to match the minimum fuel use : around 66% of the total pg. |
 Kin Hanyerec TunDraGon |
Posted - 2005.04.19 10:55:00 -
[94]
i had that problem too so i calculated the fuel consumption speed for cpu and pg. what i found is that the pos uses around 100lo/h even if you use 0 pg. I think there's a minimum fuel usage for large cts: this prolly to make people use small cts for pos with a few structures. In the end i went ahead the problem and i'm increasing my pg use to match the minimum fuel use : around 66% of the total pg. |
Marcus Grisbius |
Posted - 2005.04.19 15:49:00 -
[95]
We've been having the same problems with our POS, 2 Gallente towers, reactors, harvesters, etc. If it is a minimum usage thing, then it would be good to have that listed on the management panel. Currently, the panel tells you the towers good for a few days online only to offline itself the next day for lack of fuel. That's not very nice.  Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |
 Marcus Grisbius Gallente Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe |
Posted - 2005.04.19 15:49:00 -
[96]
We've been having the same problems with our POS, 2 Gallente towers, reactors, harvesters, etc. If it is a minimum usage thing, then it would be good to have that listed on the management panel. Currently, the panel tells you the towers good for a few days online only to offline itself the next day for lack of fuel. That's not very nice. Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |
Dantes Darkheart |
Posted - 2005.04.20 12:35:00 -
[97] We finally experience this problem with Oxygen at one of our POSs. We had it at exactly 7 days, the next day it was down to 4 days. I checked the resources in the tower to verify it was not a display bug and when I counted it up....there really was only 4 days worth of oxygen remaining. Now, this didn't affect us at all really but I'm sure people have lost millions from this bug and possibly their entire POS because it offlined itself and was subsequently destroyed. CCP, FIX THIS BUG AND FIX IT NOW. WE ARE PAYING CUSTOMERS AND DEMAND YOU AT LEAST TELL US THAT THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED IN A TIMELY MANNER!  ====================================== Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler "I'm kept warm by my hatred of the POS implementation." |
Dantes Darkheart Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.04.20 12:35:00 -
[98] We finally experience this problem with Oxygen at one of our POSs. We had it at exactly 7 days, the next day it was down to 4 days. I checked the resources in the tower to verify it was not a display bug and when I counted it up....there really was only 4 days worth of oxygen remaining. Now, this didn't affect us at all really but I'm sure people have lost millions from this bug and possibly their entire POS because it offlined itself and was subsequently destroyed. CCP, FIX THIS BUG AND FIX IT NOW. WE ARE PAYING CUSTOMERS AND DEMAND YOU AT LEAST TELL US THAT THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED IN A TIMELY MANNER! ====================================== Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler "I'm kept warm by my hatred of the POS implementation." |
Cummilla |
Posted - 2005.04.20 17:44:00 -
[99] I'm surprised that CCP doesn't see this single issue as potentially the "dealbreaker" for many people considering a POS. I know in my case I have permanently tabled the idea of a POS because of this single issue. |
 Cummilla |
Posted - 2005.04.20 17:44:00 -
[100] I'm surprised that CCP doesn't see this single issue as potentially the "dealbreaker" for many people considering a POS. I know in my case I have permanently tabled the idea of a POS because of this single issue. |
Skelator |
Posted - 2005.04.20 20:04:00 -
[101] I got a answer... Apparently its been fixed in a patch/serverside? because the problem just vanished this week.. Fuel levels are holding steady but We are also monitoring closely. Here is a partial explanation of what the problem was There were problems with the fuel counters in the last client build. They would state that too many days worh of fuel was in the POS. This was corrected in the last patch and many players think that they have lost fuel. That is not the case. The fuel counters should now show the correct number of days worth of fuel in the POS. So it looks like no one lost money it was just a case of putting in 3 REAL days of fuel and the counter showing you that you had 10 days.. Like I stated we will watch this closely but it seems to be fixed. Good Job CCP . They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Skelator Stronghold corp Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2005.04.20 20:04:00 -
[102] I got a answer... Apparently its been fixed in a patch/serverside? because the problem just vanished this week.. Fuel levels are holding steady but We are also monitoring closely. Here is a partial explanation of what the problem was There were problems with the fuel counters in the last client build. They would state that too many days worh of fuel was in the POS. This was corrected in the last patch and many players think that they have lost fuel. That is not the case. The fuel counters should now show the correct number of days worth of fuel in the POS. So it looks like no one lost money it was just a case of putting in 3 REAL days of fuel and the counter showing you that you had 10 days.. Like I stated we will watch this closely but it seems to be fixed. Good Job CCP . |
Cummilla |
Posted - 2005.04.20 20:08:00 -
[103] Thanks Skelator. So what is being implied was that the counters were off and what people should have done was adhered to there existing knowledge of per hour requirements of the station and loaded fuel accordingly, irregardless of what the counters said. This should be good news for all. |
Cummilla |
Posted - 2005.04.20 20:08:00 -
[104] Thanks Skelator. So what is being implied was that the counters were off and what people should have done was adhered to there existing knowledge of per hour requirements of the station and loaded fuel accordingly, irregardless of what the counters said. This should be good news for all. |
Skelator |
Posted - 2005.04.20 20:23:00 -
[105]
Yes this will put ALOT of people at ease.. And thats a good thing :) They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Skelator Stronghold corp Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2005.04.20 20:23:00 -
[106]
Yes this will put ALOT of people at ease.. And thats a good thing :) |
LWMaverick |
Posted - 2005.04.28 23:24:00 -
[107] Has this bug been fixed yet? If you want peace prepare for war ! |
 LWMaverick Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra |
Posted - 2005.04.28 23:24:00 -
[108] Has this bug been fixed yet?  |
 Shifty McMurphy |
Posted - 2007.01.30 21:51:00 -
[109] Warning: FORUM NECROMANCY IN PROGRESS! Just curious, it looks like this bug was fixed, but did anyone ever have any luck getting a payout for it? I lost many hundred million ISK due to this bug, and quit for a time because of it. Wondering if everyone else just had to suck it up. |
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