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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.03.13 21:07:00 -
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Anyone got a link for TQ>current build? I hate using the stupid SISI launcher that feels the need to spend 5mins hash checking, then 5-10mins checking files, before even beginning to download the patch. I could download and install the damn patch before this ****peice has finished checking.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.13 21:19:00 -
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No idea, I have used the SiSi launcher since the day it was released.
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.03.13 22:36:00 -
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*sigh* sisi launcher just stopped downloading at 94% of 1.75 gb...
Good stuff.
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Daquaris
Element 115. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.03.14 04:45:00 -
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It is usually listed on this page.
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.03.14 14:38:00 -
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Thanks dude, i usually go there, but it just links to CCP's download mirror anyways.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.03.14 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Soi Mala Thanks dude, i usually go there, but it just links to CCP's download mirror anyways.
So you are asking for non-CCP links? Wait, let me just download CCP's patch, add some malware to it, and then upload it for you. brb |
Paul Satre
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Posted - 2011.03.14 20:39:00 -
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I cannot access test server anymore, im using the sisi launcher, just deleted the content of the folder and reaply all the lucher procedure, in the end a error:
Restoring folder: "E:\EVE_TEST" Build folder Info: Checkum DB: "C:\Users\PC\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\E_EVE_~2\checksums" __name__: main version: 6.42 build: 237081 codename: EVE-EVE-TRANQUILITY region: ccp cryptopack: CryptoAPI sync: 237081 branch: //depot/games/branches/release/EVE-TRANQUILITY/eve appname: EVE usescriptindexfiles: 1 role: client aid: 0 server: Tranquility port: 26000 edition: premium repair url: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/test/RepairData_238343.dat client directory: E:\EVE_TEST Caching disabled RestoreFolder input values: folder = 'E:\\EVE_TEST' url = 'http://cdn1.eveonline.com/test/RepairData_238343.dat' dbfile = 'C:\\Users\\PC\\AppData\\Local\\CCP\\EVE\\E_EVE_~2\\checksums' safemode = False datapiles = () downloadFolder = None cleanupDownloadData = True downloadThreads = 3 whitelist = () ignore = () Traceback (most recent call last): File "progressPanel.pyc", line 97, in _TaskRun File "repairUI.pyc", line 63, in Start File "repairLogic.pyc", line 136, in Repair File "repairLogic.pyc", line 300, in Restore File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 236, in RestoreFolder File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 445, in GetFilesToRepair File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 429, in GetInfo File "urllib2.pyc", line 126, in urlopen File "urllib2.pyc", line 391, in open File "urllib2.pyc", line 409, in _open File "urllib2.pyc", line 369, in _call_chain File "urllib2.pyc", line 1173, in http_open File "urllib2.pyc", line 1148, in do_open URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 11004] getaddrinfo failed> Total Runtime: 0h00m09s
Whats wrong?????
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Gasfort
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Posted - 2011.03.15 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Soi Mala Anyone got a link for TQ>current build? I hate using the stupid SISI launcher that feels the need to spend 5mins hash checking, then 5-10mins checking files, before even beginning to download the patch. I could download and install the damn patch before this ****peice has finished checking.
Originally by: Catari Taga
So you are asking for non-CCP links? Wait, let me just download CCP's patch, add some malware to it, and then upload it for you. brb
and? have any ideas to get evepremiumpatch237081-238343_test_m.exe?
in Yakutia i have only 192kbit/s channel and not realy get 1,5 Gb whisout connection breakes.
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Paul Satre
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Posted - 2011.03.15 01:16:00 -
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Edited by: Paul Satre on 15/03/2011 01:19:31 Now after download that all i got.
KeyError: (1599992995, '\x06\x15 \xbc\xa4\xa8\xb5\xac\xc5\xe2%\xe9\xb4\xe2\xfdk') Total Runtime: 0h38m53s
Its impossible to play in test server?
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.03.15 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmatiko on 15/03/2011 10:51:35
Originally by: Gasfort
and? have any ideas to get evepremiumpatch237081-238343_test_m.exe? in Yakutia i have only 192kbit/s channel and not realy get 1,5 Gb whisout connection breakes.
The latest build is already 240076. If you have such problems with speed why bother to download SISI client, especially knowing that it changes frequently? Or CCP should send you a DVD?
Patching in progress, Sisi launcher working fine as always.
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Carola Kessler
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Posted - 2011.03.15 11:44:00 -
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Patch using Sisi Launcher tool worked fine here, apparently no connections allowed due to Server beeing in VIP / CCP Devs GM's only modus, Waiting for it to get opened for public.
*taps with her fingers on the table*
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.03.15 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Soi Mala on 15/03/2011 13:08:12 Really don't like this method. I realize that its supposed to save ccp effort by no longer writing incremental patches (in all fairness you've probably put as many resources into this as you would have into a year of patches), but this makes the process so convoluted it isn't worth it considering how often SISI changes builds.
I mean come on, 5mins to hash check, then another 5-10mins to check files, THEN you get to download your patch and apply it. 15 minutes of checks, just to tell me what build i'm running? I could just you know, LOOK, then see if there is an incremental patch, or i have to recopy.
Worst case scenario i have to recopy, i could STILL do that quicker than the checks.
Leave the patches for manual download, there was nothing wrong with the old system, all you're doing is making SISI idiot proof, which of course means more idiots, more "wahwah ban request" threads, and more work for yourselves. Remember what the test server feedback forum was like 2 years ago? There was actually feedback and bug reports, instead of 3 pages of "wahhh he shot my internet capsule on a server that bears no consequences in the real game, this will surely stop me testing the game breaking bug enjoying a game with no consequence".
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.03.15 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmatiko on 15/03/2011 13:42:37 So the main complain is that you can`t wait 5 minutes while hash check completes, not that you have to wait another 4 hours till server start to accept public connections?
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Gasfort
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Posted - 2011.03.16 01:48:00 -
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Edited by: Gasfort on 16/03/2011 01:54:16
Originally by: Sarmatiko Edited by: Sarmatiko on 15/03/2011 10:51:35
The latest build is already 240076. If you have such problems with speed why bother to download SISI client, especially knowing that it changes frequently? Or CCP should send you a DVD?
Patching in progress, Sisi launcher working fine as always.
i have no problems with my speed. it casual for yakutia. the best deal that we have maximum 640 kbits for 130$/month
anyway i want to access test server too. to get full client i need only 4-5 days. delivering of DVD will be 21-28 days (on that time range sisi version will going up and up)
im just need a correct link on actual off-line patcher (pathces more then 1Gb size is not often)
upd: and i have it now, but it only 3Mb?
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Pesets
The Hunt Club
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Posted - 2011.03.16 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Soi Mala Leave the patches for manual download, there was nothing wrong with the old system, all you're doing is making SISI idiot proof
From what i understand, compiling the actual patches requires more effort on CCP's side. So they're also saving themselves some time better spent on testing, and possibly making it more annoying for the people who are just there to **** around.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.03.16 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Pesets
Originally by: Soi Mala Leave the patches for manual download, there was nothing wrong with the old system, all you're doing is making SISI idiot proof
From what i understand, compiling the actual patches requires more effort on CCP's side. So they're also saving themselves some time better spent on testing, and possibly making it more annoying for the people who are just there to **** around.
Building and deploying a patch is an automated process. Or at least it should be.
Also checksumming the entire 8+ GB install twice for each update is just completely unreasonable. They know your current build, they know the build they want to patch to, there's no reason to checksum anything by default unless as a fallback option when patching fails. But there's no reason for many of the design decisions CCP makes...
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Mateea Jouhinen
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Posted - 2011.03.16 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Pesets
Originally by: Soi Mala Leave the patches for manual download, there was nothing wrong with the old system, all you're doing is making SISI idiot proof
From what i understand, compiling the actual patches requires more effort on CCP's side. So they're also saving themselves some time better spent on testing, and possibly making it more annoying for the people who are just there to **** around.
Building and deploying a patch is an automated process. Or at least it should be.
Also checksumming the entire 8+ GB install twice for each update is just completely unreasonable. They know your current build, they know the build they want to patch to, there's no reason to checksum anything by default unless as a fallback option when patching fails. But there's no reason for many of the design decisions CCP makes...
The check is not random nor useless... They don't afford to "know" stuff. They have to check because for example: You play on SiSi a lot so ofc your build is the latest and checksuming seems pointless, but, there are people like me who enter SiSi occasionally and don't have the latest SiSi build. In that case without the check there are two possibilities:
1. I should remove the old SiSi and reduplicate the Live one so i am in sync with everybody. (not the best option... makes ppl abandon the will to participate the mass test with all this fuss)
2. Make several patches for each build they've had, which they did some time ago with manual patch and it didn't worked well, thus making you go back to step 1.
The Sisi Launcher in my opinion is a good tool for the not so techy guys out there who are willing to enter test server and participate to events.
I maybe will get a lot of flames for this post so I would like to thank you in advance. Also my thoughts are that we, the general public, have come to a stage of development and speed that even 5 minutes of checksuming seems a lot of time. This is not our fault... It's the Evolution!
Regards.
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.03.16 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Soi Mala on 16/03/2011 15:03:40
Originally by: Mateea Jouhinen
The check is not random nor useless... They don't afford to "know" stuff. They have to check because for example: You play on SiSi a lot so ofc your build is the latest and checksuming seems pointless, but, there are people like me who enter SiSi occasionally and don't have the latest SiSi build. In that case without the check there are two possibilities:
1. I should remove the old SiSi and reduplicate the Live one so i am in sync with everybody. (not the best option... makes ppl abandon the will to participate the mass test with all this fuss)
2. Make several patches for each build they've had, which they did some time ago with manual patch and it didn't worked well, thus making you go back to step 1.
The Sisi Launcher in my opinion is a good tool for the not so techy guys out there who are willing to enter test server and participate to events.
I maybe will get a lot of flames for this post so I would like to thank you in advance. Also my thoughts are that we, the general public, have come to a stage of development and speed that even 5 minutes of checksuming seems a lot of time. This is not our fault... It's the Evolution!
Regards.
This is my point... They're developing this tool to cater for a massive range of patches because people can't be bothered to update, or recopy. A fair tactic, I guess, except for the fact that both of those options are faster than running the SISI updater.
Honestly, if you can't figure out how to patch from one of two possible builds, then what kind of technical knowhow are you bringing to the testing table? For mass tests where meatsack pilots are needed, then just patch from TQ, aside from that, we should be keeping them off the server because all they're doing is disrupting real, methodical testing and forcing CCP to cater to their laziness.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.03.16 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mateea Jouhinen
Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Pesets
Originally by: Soi Mala Leave the patches for manual download, there was nothing wrong with the old system, all you're doing is making SISI idiot proof
From what i understand, compiling the actual patches requires more effort on CCP's side. So they're also saving themselves some time better spent on testing, and possibly making it more annoying for the people who are just there to **** around.
Building and deploying a patch is an automated process. Or at least it should be.
Also checksumming the entire 8+ GB install twice for each update is just completely unreasonable. They know your current build, they know the build they want to patch to, there's no reason to checksum anything by default unless as a fallback option when patching fails. But there's no reason for many of the design decisions CCP makes...
The check is not random nor useless... They don't afford to "know" stuff. They have to check because for example: You play on SiSi a lot so ofc your build is the latest and checksuming seems pointless, but, there are people like me who enter SiSi occasionally and don't have the latest SiSi build. In that case without the check there are two possibilities:
You missed the point. They do know the build. Each EVE install has a common.ini which contains the build number. Unless someone manually messed with their files that build number will be correct. Now I hope you will agree that someone manually messing wiht their files should not be the expectation as it currently is (= checksum everything) rather than the fall back option as it should be (= download patch for the indicated build and fall back to checksumming if patching fails). --
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.16 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: Amaroq Dricaldari on 16/03/2011 18:15:53 The new build is just another Tranquility build, making it useless if you want to play on the test server, and you can't download the old build from the site, and I can't use the SiSi Launcher because my Tranquility Client is on the old drive which ahs almost no room on it. Fix the stupid Singularity Client, CCP!
Also, how the hell is anybody suppossed to access the Multiplicity or Duality Test Servers if there aren't any clients for those two servers? |
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.03.16 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Also, how the hell is anybody suppossed to access the Multiplicity or Duality Test Servers if there aren't any clients for those two servers?
/facepalm For the Duality patching refer to the sticky or the devblog or the wiki page. Multiplicity is not a public server so its never intended for you to have client for it (but this still possible. Just because you cant get it doesn`t mean no one can)
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Khaine Beralt
Wolves Of Legend
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Posted - 2011.03.16 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Edited by: Amaroq Dricaldari on 16/03/2011 18:15:53 The new build is just another Tranquility build, making it useless if you want to play on the test server, and you can't download the old build from the site, and I can't use the SiSi Launcher because my Tranquility Client is on the old drive which ahs almost no room on it. Fix the stupid Singularity Client, CCP!
Also, how the hell is anybody suppossed to access the Multiplicity or Duality Test Servers if there aren't any clients for those two servers?
Honestly, guy, what the **** are you on about? And I haven't seen Multiplicity go public since like... Revelations or something.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.03.16 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Khaine Beralt Honestly, guy, what the **** are you on about? And I haven't seen Multiplicity go public since like... Revelations or something.
Just ignore him. He isn't even trolling, he's just literally the dumbest player on these forums. All of his forums posts that I had the misfortune to read so far made absolutely zero sense. --
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Mateea Jouhinen
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Posted - 2011.03.16 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Mateea Jouhinen on 16/03/2011 19:16:11
Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Khaine Beralt Honestly, guy, what the **** are you on about? And I haven't seen Multiplicity go public since like... Revelations or something.
Just ignore him. He isn't even trolling, he's just literally the dumbest player on these forums. All of his forums posts that I had the misfortune to read so far made absolutely zero sense.
Speaking of trolling... You are not getting my point. What i meant to say about them not knowing your build is that a lot of people have different builds installed. Some are frequent sisi players like you, who has it's build up to date thus making the check useless, and others like me who play on sisi once a month maybe and have 4 or 5 builds earlier. I was not saying that CCP doesn't know what builds they have. Just that they can't know who has installed what.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.03.16 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mateea Jouhinen Speaking of trolling... [...] I was not saying that CCP doesn't know what builds they have. Just that they can't know who has installed what.
0/10 because that sentence doesn't even make any logical sense. Either they know what you have or they don't. And they do. Discussion over. --
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