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Acwron
Meet The Fockers Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:10:00 -
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Also please tell us how you think the hostile's comms would be :)
I'll have a go :
Not Me
Hostile FC : Primary Not ME, I said primary Not ME ! People in fleet : Chill man, you're not primary !
Who's That
Hostile FC : Who's That primary! Who's That primary! People in fleet : You should know man, you're the FC...( FFS, I really hate this guy, I like the other FC tbh...)
Let this be a fun thread :) |

papamike
Killer Koalas Inc. Ethereal Dawn
80
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:13:00 -
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Da Drakefirst
Then just make sure you never fly Drakes. |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
606
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:18:00 -
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If your FC is calling targets by name and not ship-type and isn't broadcasting targets, get a new FC. |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers Axiom Solaris
141
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:18:00 -
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"The Capsule" or "Anyone But Logistics". |

Adoro
Reikoku The Retirement Club
2
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:19:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:"The Capsule" or "Anyone But Logistics".
Haha I like the second one.
Mine would be:
Secondary
"Secondary is Primary"
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Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1712
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:21:00 -
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"my ****" Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
231
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:25:00 -
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I created a character called "Primary is Shadoo" in the hope that I will one day either join PL or one of their enemies... "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
336
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:29:00 -
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... and this is one of many reasons why calling targets on voice is plain stupid. Exclusively use broadcasts instead and enjoy a stress & confusion-free fleet experience where comms are silent for 80% of the fight and no important information can get lost in chatter.
Also the FC's job is to hold things together, to communicate with scouts/allies and to make the high-level tactical decisions (engage, disengage, regroup, positioning/movement, types of ships to shoot at. ...), actual calling/broadcasting of targets can be safely delegated to a different person. I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:31:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:... and this is one of many reasons why calling targets on voice is plain stupid. Use broadcasts and enjoy a stress and confusion-free fleet experience where comms are silent for 80% of the fight and no important information can get lost in chatter.
Also the FC's job is to hold things together, to communicate with scouts/allies and to make the high-level tactical decisions (engage, disengage, regroup, positioning/movement, types of ships to shoot at. ...), actual calling/broadcasting of targets can be safely delegated to a different person.
Sounds like you haven't been in proper fleet engagements, professor. |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Still Censored
671
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:33:00 -
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Best I've seen is just make names that are a PITA to pronounce. This causes hesitation when the FC tries to figure out how to call it. |
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Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers Axiom Solaris
141
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:40:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:I created a character called "Primary is Shadoo" in the hope that I will one day either join PL or one of their enemies... One day you will, my friend. One day. o7 |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
336
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:45:00 -
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William Walker wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:... and this is one of many reasons why calling targets on voice is plain stupid. Use broadcasts and enjoy a stress and confusion-free fleet experience where comms are silent for 80% of the fight and no important information can get lost in chatter.
Also the FC's job is to hold things together, to communicate with scouts/allies and to make the high-level tactical decisions (engage, disengage, regroup, positioning/movement, types of ships to shoot at. ...), actual calling/broadcasting of targets can be safely delegated to a different person. Sounds like you haven't been in proper fleet engagements, professor. that's funny... I actually had expected the criticism to come from the different end of the spectrum as while what I wrote works very well for large engagements it doesn't really apply to small gangs.
anyways, see my signature. I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |

Halcyon Ingenium
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
180
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:46:00 -
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The Tard
FC: Primary The Tard
Pilot: Lol, which one? They say that in learning the game Go, it is best to lose your first 50 games as soon as possible. This is because Go is complex, and the only way you will start to get an idea of strategy and play is by first sucking and failing as hard as you can. So...In EVE, it is best to get your first 50 deaths by combat as soon as possible. |

Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
239
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:46:00 -
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IIIlllIllllllIIlllIIIllll
With your alts and fleet mates using variations of lower case "L"s and upper case "i''s.
Good luck telling those apart. In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |

OmniBeton
OmniBeton Metatech
19
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:50:00 -
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I think the best would be "Me"
Imagine FC saying "Primary target is Me, I repeat, shot Me, shot Me". |

Barrak
Wormhole Engineers Review and Evaluation Greater Realms
53
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:58:00 -
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Primary:
that one this one anyone him her the harpy (insert any ship name) the gate topoflist who lands first |

Tiger Would
EoE-Group
1760
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Posted - 2012.08.27 11:59:00 -
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Salute
Fire
Stroke
Poke
Strap on
Engage
Probe Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2012.08.27 12:19:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:William Walker wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:... and this is one of many reasons why calling targets on voice is plain stupid. Use broadcasts and enjoy a stress and confusion-free fleet experience where comms are silent for 80% of the fight and no important information can get lost in chatter.
Also the FC's job is to hold things together, to communicate with scouts/allies and to make the high-level tactical decisions (engage, disengage, regroup, positioning/movement, types of ships to shoot at. ...), actual calling/broadcasting of targets can be safely delegated to a different person. Sounds like you haven't been in proper fleet engagements, professor. that's funny... I actually had expected the criticism to come from the other end of the spectrum as while what I wrote works very well for large engagements it doesn't really apply to small gangs. edit: I think I made a solid argument in favor of the style I advocate (dedicated target caller who relies on broadcasts) - less stress for everyone in the fleet (= less mistakes), better communications, frees up the FC for more important work. Instead of replying with arguments of your own, your post comes down to "that's not how we do things" and "you are a NPC corp character without a killboard". That's somewhat understandable as the only arguments in your favor would be an excuse about bugs/lag ( long time since I've experienced issues with broadcasts, nothing prevents you from switching back to calling targets on comms if that should happen) and several variations of "our fleet members are bad" (at setting up their fleet interface, at following broadcasts, at making autonomous decisions, at ...). I have never flown in a FA fleet but I am going to take a wild guess and claim that in those instances where you want to avoid unnecessary mistakes and can rely on your fleet members not being completely reta rded (i.e. in capital fleets) you probably do things pretty much the way I advocate.
Usually the FC calls targets over voice because it is a sad fact that a majority of people will ignore broadcasts. Some people also ignore the voice of the FC, least there be another designated caller. I have witnessed this in FA fleets as well as other CFC fleets. Occasionally everything will crumble apart and random people will call targets, but by then everyone is dead/dying anyway.
Capital fleets are different and usually as you stated because it involves BIG BUCKS. But in reality most voice communication is pretty messy.
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Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
485
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Posted - 2012.08.27 12:33:00 -
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A good FC will switch to letters combined with broadcasts.
Primary "en oh tee, en oh tee, en oh tee", secondary "W H O, W H O", Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á |

Larg Kellein
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.08.27 12:58:00 -
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It'll only work on a bad FC with worse fleet members, but I actually have an untrained alt named "Friendly FC". I was drunk and thought I had to own that name. |
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stoicfaux
1507
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Posted - 2012.08.27 13:08:00 -
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s+áS+ëµ¥Äs¢¢
Suck it, all you round-eye, Western, "romantic" language speaking FCs.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1267
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Posted - 2012.08.27 13:18:00 -
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A good FC won't even call targets and just broadcast them. Spies and all that.. http://www.themittani.com Bringing balance to the world of Eve news |

Dajli
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.08.27 13:19:00 -
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Nothing? I'd think "Nothing" would pretty much cover it all.
Well, maybe "Anything" would too. |

Down Link
Chitlins
3
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Posted - 2012.08.27 13:28:00 -
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Gÿ+/ /Gûî /n++ \ |

Quaaid
Hephaestus LLC Get Off My Lawn
126
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Posted - 2012.08.27 14:00:00 -
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When FC calls me primary, I just try to convince them that I am really Houser. |
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