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CCP Oneiromancer
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Posted - 2011.03.15 11:05:00 -
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DEVBLOG
Duality on Evelopedia
This week we will open up a new semi-public test server called Duality. The focus of this new test server will be events, such as mass-tests and CCP-coordinated public play-tests.
A few important things you should know about Duality:
Duality will be running database mirrors from Tranquility, just like Singularity does. Duality will NOT be accessible to the players all the time. Outside of organized testing events we will keep Duality in VIP mode, for internal testing only. If you use Duality, make sure that you make a separate client install for it. There is no account reactivation support for Duality at the moment, but this is something we're working on for the future. There is no combat system on Duality.
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midget gem
Diplomatic Disruption Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.03.15 11:33:00 -
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So, does this mean that you will stop Mass Tests on Sisi?
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CCP Oneiromancer
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Posted - 2011.03.15 11:48:00 -
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We aim to have mass tests on Duality instead of Singularity in the future and use Singularity for ongoing public testing.
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nocaffeine
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Posted - 2011.03.15 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: nocaffeine on 15/03/2011 11:51:06
Originally by: midget gem So, does this mean that you will stop Mass Tests on Sisi?
basically yes. They will still exist just on their own special server thats only gonna be online for specific things, the free sp rewards and bans for disrupting the testing will still be applied to singularity though.
Edit: i fail for not typing fast enough, Oneiromancer beat me to the answer ________________________________________________
Originally by: Ronnie Smith Ishkurs poop drones!
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Graegori Hauss
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.03.15 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Graegori Hauss on 15/03/2011 14:18:40 So basically we have to waste another 8 GB of space just so they can have a separate server for mass tests?
Gee, thanks CCP. It's not like I wanted to use that disk space for something else like music or movies or, god forbid, other games. |
Mike deVoid
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.03.15 14:40:00 -
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Will this mean another install of the eve client? Or will you change the Sisi updating tool so we can amend the Test Server installation to either Sisi or Ducie as we require?
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Jonnie Concrete
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Posted - 2011.03.15 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mike deVoid Will this mean another install of the eve client?
Yes.
Also,
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Rokh Krusher
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Posted - 2011.03.15 15:47:00 -
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Will SISI be removed? (Testing is for CCP test purposes)
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DonHel
Gallente Kentucky Fried Capsuleer
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Posted - 2011.03.15 17:49:00 -
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so over 21GB of eve now.. scratches head.. I think you take more of my computer space then anything lol. good thing theres loads free still
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midget gem
Diplomatic Disruption Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.03.15 17:58:00 -
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One minute, if i have read this correctly this means that i have to download another eve so i can doo mass tests to get SP on sisi, because if this is true then thats kinda stupid to be honest
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Nyio
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Posted - 2011.03.15 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hypnotic Things like the weekly mass tests, or guided play tests will, in the future, happen on Duality with much better coordination and preparation than what was capable on Singularity in the past.
This is good news I think, though it will take another chunk of harddrive space like above posters pointed out. On the other hand, what's 8GB these days..
I hope this means it will be easier to patch and get on in time for mass-testing.
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Lan Staz
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Posted - 2011.03.15 21:28:00 -
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Is a DualityLauncher in the works?
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Konae
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Posted - 2011.03.15 22:36:00 -
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- Followed all the steps in the Evelopedia page - No autopatch when trying to log in (status incompatible (release) - The "Download TQ to Duality Patch" doesn't download.
I guess it is still early and not all pieces are yet in place. Let us know when we the patch is ready so we can update our third EvE installation.
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Tobin Shalim
Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2011.03.16 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Graegori Hauss Edited by: Graegori Hauss on 15/03/2011 14:18:40 So basically we have to waste another 8 GB of space just so they can have a separate server for mass tests?
Gee, thanks CCP. It's not like I wanted to use that disk space for something else like music or movies or, god forbid, other games.
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Originally by: Gierling Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
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Pesets
The Hunt Club
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Posted - 2011.03.16 06:47:00 -
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I would assume Duality will be running the same version as Singularity, in which case all you need is a different shortcut with /server:Duality key appended. Well, and you might need to clear the cache. If not, chances are it still won't be that different, so you can probably get away with DucieLauncher.exe patching Sisi client for the duration of the mass test, then SisiLauncher.exe patching it back afterwards.
Duality will be inaccessible most of the time, so there's no real need to keep a separate installation for it the whole time. Besides, honestly, eight gigs isn't the end of the world. I've got 20+ gigs of just Eve screenshots alone, and i'm just a bitter hater vet.
Although it does irk me somewhat that a big chunk of those 8 gigs is Incarna-related resources. Would be kinda nice if all the Carbon stuff could just be installed separately, once, by those who care about it, and ignored by those who don't. I've re-created my avatar and don't plan to walk in stations a whole lot, so three copies of that content do feel like somewhat of a waste of space. Especially in the TQ client, those files currently have no purpose whatsoever.
Also, whatever happened to Multiplicity? Wasn't it supposed to have more or less the same purpose?
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Tub Chil
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Posted - 2011.03.16 08:54:00 -
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So every time there is a test player should download few GB data for this test only?
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Mikal Morataya
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Posted - 2011.03.16 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Mikal Morataya on 16/03/2011 19:36:47 I have tried creating a new client for this, and installing the TQ > Duality patch and it seemed to install the required stuff, yet when I run my short cut for Duality, its still coming up "incompatible version" with no autopatch option?
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.16 22:07:00 -
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This is the sort of annoyance that would cause participation to drop drastically.
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CCP Oneiromancer
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Posted - 2011.03.17 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lan Staz Is a DualityLauncher in the works?
Yes, this is something that we're working on.
Duality is currently running the same build as Singularity, so you should be fine with copying the install and changing the server IP in the shortcut. In the future it will likely run a different build from Singularity, but patches from the TQ build will be available.
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Undiscovered Glitch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.03.17 14:45:00 -
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Hmmm....I heard a rumor of a masstest today on Duality...was that just a rumor?
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.03.17 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Nika Dekaia on 17/03/2011 16:04:48
Originally by: Undiscovered Glitch Edited by: Undiscovered Glitch on 17/03/2011 15:06:08 Hmmm....I heard a rumor of a masstest today on Duality...was that just a rumor? Also, there does not appear to be a current patch for the client compatible with the new server yet...is this correct?
Newsitem: Linkage Frequently updated thread in GD: Linkage As for a patch - read CCP Oneiromancer posted right above you. There is no special patch for Duality. A copy of a working Sisi client and a change in the shortcut will suffice.
Also, this thread: Linkage
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Undiscovered Glitch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.03.17 17:31:00 -
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Well, then the instructions on the Duality EVElopedia page are incorrect, as it says to copy the TQ client, not the Sisi client.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.03.17 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Undiscovered Glitch Well, then the instructions on the Duality EVElopedia page are incorrect, as it says to copy the TQ client, not the Sisi client.
It is correct. Duality just *happens* to run the same built as Sisi, which makes it easier to just copy the sisi folder, at the moment.
Most of the times, the Sisi and the Duality build will be different and you should be patching with a Duality-patch from a copy of the TQ folder.
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Tank Quasar
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Posted - 2011.03.17 19:39:00 -
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FATAL
Your charictor has repeatedly failed loading on the server. This indicates a fault and support presonnel need to be notified.
Stuck on the "Entering Space" checking navigaion systems.
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Maxwell Muhilo
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Posted - 2011.03.17 20:45:00 -
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And it's all a moot point, cause I cant freaking undock!!!!
also i can't remember the channel name to join for the test server stuff
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Stormchyld
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.18 12:08:00 -
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After my rant on another thread yesterday I got Duality set up and working. But do you have any idea how long it will be b4 the "Character Stuck, please choose another Character or try again later" will be fixed when logging into the regular Singularity? Thanks
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Achaikos
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Posted - 2011.03.18 12:10:00 -
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When will the normal sisi be back online?
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CCP Oneiromancer
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Posted - 2011.03.18 12:53:00 -
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We are looking into the issue of systems and characters getting stuck, this is happening on both Singularity and Duality.
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Stormchyld
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.18 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer We are looking into the issue of systems and characters getting stuck, this is happening on both Singularity and Duality.
Good enough..... thank you
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Soldarius
Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.03.18 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer We are looking into the issue of systems and characters getting stuck, this is happening on both Singularity and Duality.
Okay, finally a response from CCP. But perhaps, since this issue is so far-reaching, widespread, and completely screws the player trying to use the test server(s), it deserves its own thread? Such things can be stickied for the duration, and then unstickied when resolved. (Prerequisites: Requires Poasting 5 and Forum Management 3.)
Originally by: CCP Shadow ...I cannot guarantee (my) sobriety or decency.
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Althos Silverwing
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Posted - 2011.03.19 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: midget gem One minute, if i have read this correctly this means that i have to download another eve so i can doo mass tests to get SP on sisi, because if this is true then thats kinda stupid to be honest
Just wait, they will likely come out with a tool like Sisi or update Sisi to manage either of the test servers, it would be the more logical step.
*Note to Everyone* Never try to bring logic into a fight with your Spouse, it ALWAYS ENDS BADLY
Who needs money, I just want a fleet of Hulks I Can control from one main ship and watch them bring me the ore i so love to look at. |
cyndrogen
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Posted - 2011.03.21 04:36:00 -
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I don't understand why we can't just use symbolic links instead of having to copy all assets.
Cant we just come up with a way to POINT to assets from tranquility but use a separate folder for preferences ?
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Mikal Morataya
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Posted - 2011.03.24 14:31:00 -
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Incidentally how do we keep the client upto date, I notice mine is out of date but I seem to have no option to update, due to I assume the closed nature of the server?
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Headerman
Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.04.11 07:27:00 -
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o/ CCP Oneiromancer
A quick question or 2 if i may?
Will Duality take any focus off Sisi in regards to policing and monitoring of nuisance people?
I think i really have to put my app in for bug hunters or something
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Dantivio
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.21 06:04:00 -
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how do i get on this server? do i need to make a seperate account? |
Lansaial Durack
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Posted - 2011.04.22 05:45:00 -
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What is the frequency of Account Mirror Updates for Duality...
I've recently come back to EVE, mainly for Incarna and all that and my trial account (which I have recently converted to a full) was created on the 11th. Elsewhere, it was intimated that the current Duality mirror was created on the 10th (DOH!!!) that's really anoying.. :(
I would really like to stretch my legs in station so I was wondering when the Mirror is likely to be updated again?
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Lansaial Durack
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Posted - 2011.04.22 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dantivio how do i get on this server? do i need to make a seperate account?
no... you just need an account active at the time of the last accounts DB mirror (seems to have been on or before the 10th of April ( I missed it by a day)
as to when the next mirror drops I don't know
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Jessica Exmortis
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Posted - 2011.04.22 12:22:00 -
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Hey CCP Oneiromancer,
I'm borrowing this thread a little if it'a alright (instead of creating a new one).
I lost my password and i need to retrieve it by chatting with one of the GM on IRC. But the channel you guys are in is only for registered users. Why is that? I don't really use IRC and do i really need to pay 20$ just to get a hold of my password?
Thank you!
o/
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RED XV
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Posted - 2011.04.25 12:02:00 -
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I can't get the Duality test server to work. It just says incompatible (release) :S. Am I doing something wrong or is the server down??
Thanks!
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The Mach
Reikoku Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.04.25 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: The Mach on 25/04/2011 14:39:22 The new captians quarters look very nice so far! Here are a few things I would change and/or add to them.
- Sense of scale to the ship hangar. This may invlove changing the ship veiw to allow us to walk much closer to the ships than before. Even , to me, is about how massive and vast the space and universe is, show that in the station as well.
- Every time the main screen video ends the entire client freezes for about 10 sec and then resumes normal play. I noticed it is coinciding with the main screen of the capt's quarters.
- I understand the need for a dark feel, but it would awesome to have a light switch.
- Make another screen for the Corp/alliance calander which lists upcoming events. (yes we use it!)
- Gag interactable items, Last on the list of things to do i know.
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mokmo3
Asteroid Miners Consortium Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2011.04.25 17:51:00 -
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I have not been able to see the CQ... as i'm docked when i log in. There's some attempt by the client to show a screen or two, but the client crashes after a second or two...
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BFE
Thee Almitee Ones The Unforgiven Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.28 15:25:00 -
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Basically, I just want to know which forum to check to find out the schedule for the Ducie server. I went to their file downloader for it... and all it did was reinstall another Sisi. Is there a time frame when you can download Ducie too? Or perhaps I'm all jacked up and missed something obvious.... |
litte miss
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Posted - 2011.05.13 10:07:00 -
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i think before you try to open the duality maybe you should fix the client downlaods for both and maybee do somthinmg about the download speed once you fix the client downlaods as for both singularity you get incompatable version see thread broken sisi
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flummox
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Posted - 2011.05.21 00:00:00 -
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need update or something...
it's telling me my sub is expired (it isn't); and last login was in 2010... 8(
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Crazy Craven
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.21 14:06:00 -
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For 2 of my accounts it says incorrect username/password and they are correct, needs a slight fix somewhere. -- if (Troll == "idiot") return "Troll is an Idiot"; else if (Troll != "idiot") return "Troll is still an idiot"; -- |
TeraDmc
Gallente TeraCorp Elite Sardaukar Guard
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Posted - 2011.05.22 20:22:00 -
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Tearing my hair out, been trying all weekend to log in and have a look at the CQ to no avail. I think I've followed the instructions to the letter, but it keeps telling me the following on the login screen:
Username: ******* Server: Test Server (duality) Password: ******* Status: Incompatible (release) I'm on Version: 6.44.259851 which I believe is the correct one.
I have tried patching manually many times but as I'm on the newest it won't patch, I have also downloaded the entire build twice and tried fresh. It doestn't seem that i'm doing anything wrong the shortcut has been edited correctly:
"C:\Users\********\Desktop\Eve Test\eve.exe" /server:duality
If anyone could point out the probably obvious thing I'm missing I'll be really grateful :)
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Anar Amone
Amarr Legion Of The Lost Guardians
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Posted - 2011.05.24 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Anar Amone on 24/05/2011 20:13:29 Would also like to get this Character activated on Duality. Would also like to get Anarista on the server as well. So hopefully they copy everyone's account to the server soon.
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DaeMon ix
Minmatar The first genesis BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.05.27 07:53:00 -
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Quote: Duality will NOT be accessible to the players all the time. Outside of organized testing events we will keep Duality in VIP mode, for internal testing only.
This being the case can you please tell us when the thing is available somehow, atm I get incompatable (protocol) which I assume means its unavailable but its a guess.
At least a list of the possible status(es) and what they mean would be helpful so people dont assume a bad install and go through all the pain yet again or worse, give up.
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Iakop
Gallente Insanity Reigns
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Posted - 2011.05.28 11:41:00 -
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Not sure if i missed a proper reply thread:
Amarr tutorials: Destroying the fuel tank (mission objective) incurs a standing penalty of 2.4% that shouldn't be the case. (I think that was from the Aura tutotials only noticed that because i created a new toon for the test)
Combat: Afternurner module given and advised to used but no skill book.
Industry: The player does not get an industrial skill before the first production mission - seems odd since the tutorials seem to hand out skill books before theay are needed.
I was unable to start production - i am presuming that it is disabled on duality - if not i try again and submit an error report.
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bluenzo
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Posted - 2011.05.30 22:32:00 -
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I kind of need a reactivation, but, I lose my password during the mirror, I have a new password since then, I can login to TQ, but not *DUALITY* server. Any way you can mirror my password from TQ to duality server? I cannot login to DUALITY due to login username/password failure. :((
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2011.06.06 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer We are looking into the issue of systems and characters getting stuck, this is happening on both Singularity and Duality.
Haha, so these days you're required to debug your test servers, too?
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Swynet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer Stuff
Got the bad surprise on connecting to Singularity and see my toon is lacking about 3M sp compared with my TQ toon.
Would it be nice if I could copy/pasta some folder or file from TQ folder (another HD) to the SISI folder or if you guys can do something about it.
Thx
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Ravior Letam
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Posted - 2011.06.11 14:03:00 -
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When can I access Duality? Is there some public testing time or something?
Greetings,
Ravior
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Dr Screamm
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.03 11:23:00 -
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Hi to all .....i just managed to fix my sisi access, and from what i have read test server has been mirrored ( or not? ) if it has, i am missing 5 mil SP, can anyone confirm that mirroring has taken place or not please.
thank you.
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