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Nypheas Azurai	Posted - 2011.03.17 18:10:00 - [1] I'm just about to vote and considering three candidates based on their platform. Please let me know if this assessments are correct, or any advice/information that might be useful to my voting: Karland - Market agenda Trebor - All-around agenda, with some focus on MD/SI srsnetpolitician - no transactions, make Incarna useful I agree with all three agenda's in their own way. Does anyone else having anything to add? By the way, I no longer see Karland on the list to vote, what happened?
Raid'En	Posted - 2011.03.17 19:01:00 - [2] Originally by: Nypheas Azurai By the way, I no longer see Karland on the list to vote, what happened? i had a look as it seems surprising, but yeah he have disepeared from the list... and someone is also asking on his campaign thread, strange... ps : and you forgot seleene on your choice list :P ---------------- Wormhole Trading
Tutskii	Posted - 2011.03.17 19:17:00 - [3] I like Trebor. The previous CSM was a great CSM and if he gets chair again he screws up Mittani's take over CSM plan. <3 Kal but a vote for him is a vote for the 0.0/NC takes over CSM block, which I can not support any less.
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.17 19:41:00 - [4] If Kalrand has been removed from the voting process, do I get to cast my votes again? Because I absolutely can't stand Trebor.
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.03.17 19:41:00 - [5] Assuming I have my votes back I'm somewhat stumped as to who to vote for now
Tutskii	Posted - 2011.03.17 19:54:00 - [6] Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane If Kalrand has been removed from the voting process, do I get to cast my votes again? Because I absolutely can't stand Trebor. Why'd you vote for Trebor if you can't stand him?
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.17 20:07:00 - [7] Originally by: Tutskii Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane If Kalrand has been removed from the voting process, do I get to cast my votes again? Because I absolutely can't stand Trebor. Why'd you vote for Trebor if you can't stand him? How could you possibly have read into my "I voted for Kalrand and want my votes to count" statement that I voted for Trebor?
Bad Bobby Genos Occidere Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.17 20:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Assuming I have my votes back I'm somewhat stumped as to who to vote for now I put 4 votes on Prometheus Exenthal and 4 on Elise Randolph. I voted Prom because ship balance and small scale PvP need a champion on the CSM and he's the best man for the job. In my view it's one of the most important issues that the CSM could have an influence on. I voted Elise out of loyalty to my alliance. While neither are market focused candidates, I don't feel that any of the available candidates would be a suitable market champion. Even if there was a suitable candidate, I don't think the market needs much help from the CSM. Putting work into other areas of eve would have a more dramatic effect on the wellbeing of trade and industry as professions anyway.
Tutskii	Posted - 2011.03.17 20:22:00 - [9] Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane Originally by: Tutskii Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane If Kalrand has been removed from the voting process, do I get to cast my votes again? Because I absolutely can't stand Trebor. Why'd you vote for Trebor if you can't stand him? How could you possibly have read into my "I voted for Kalrand and want my votes to count" statement that I voted for Trebor? Just wondering what the lack of Kalrand and your feelings towards Trebor have to do with each other
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.03.17 20:24:00 - [10] I'd considered Prom. But balance is done on a cyclic basis (Gal are next) and this is basically a design choice, I don't see the CSM being able to do anything about that. As far as making solo and/or small scale PVP better I'm a strong believer in the HP buff being the starting point of its decline. At the moment I'm still looking for the next big thing, I was in on the ground floor for the Drake and much fun was had. Bah, I need to go back and re-read them all again.
Khanid Voltar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2011.03.17 20:27:00 - [11] Gave 3 votes to Seleene's Iteration campaign. As a former GM he really is best placed of all the candidates to get traction on a variety of issues.
The Mattius Enigma Technologies	Posted - 2011.03.17 20:48:00 - [12] Same, Seleene got my votes No idea what happened to Kalrand, but he would not have got my vote regardless. I just couldn't separate (rightly or wrongly) his campaign and agenda, from those above him in Goonswarm.
Bad Bobby Genos Occidere Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.17 20:49:00 - [13] Originally by: Lauren Hellfury I don't see the CSM being able to do anything about that. Someone has to do something about ship balance and CCP thus far has a very poor record in this very important area. I think they need help. If I have to choose only one man to put forward and help them, it's Prom. While I'll accept that he may have a hard time getting changes made, I think it's important for us to do what we can to improve this game in such a critical area.
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.17 21:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Tutskii Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane Originally by: Tutskii Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane If Kalrand has been removed from the voting process, do I get to cast my votes again? Because I absolutely can't stand Trebor. Why'd you vote for Trebor if you can't stand him? How could you possibly have read into my "I voted for Kalrand and want my votes to count" statement that I voted for Trebor? Just wondering what the lack of Kalrand and your feelings towards Trebor have to do with each other I voted for Kalrand (and therefor not for Trebor). If Kalrand is out, then my votes don't potentially assist a candidate in getting ahead of Trebor (and thereby keeping Trebor out of the CSM). In other words, a vote for one candidate is de facto a vote against all the other candidates, due to the rules.
Lynx Australis	Posted - 2011.03.17 21:51:00 - [15] WTF is CSM?
Tutskii	Posted - 2011.03.17 21:53:00 - [16] OIC. Don't worry, I am pretty sure Trebor's gonna make it. Where did he touch you anyway? from what Ive read and seen, he seems like a pretty okay guy, if one with a terrible portrait. Concord just killed my post for pyramid quoting heh.
Lynx Australis	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:20:00 - [17] Originally by: Tutskii Edited by: Tutskii on 17/03/2011 21:57:37 OIC. Don't worry, I am pretty sure Trebor's gonna make it. Where did he touch you anyway? from what Ive read and seen, he seems like a pretty okay guy, if one with a terrible portrait. Concord just killed my post for pyramid quoting heh. CSM is Council of Stellar Management. It is a publicity stunt/useful forum for guiding CCP's designs. The amount of power and influence of it are up to debate and interpretation. The voting period for the people on it, is on at this time, you can find more information at www.eveonline.com as well as a link to vote. The previous CSM (of which Trebor was chair) counts the removal of the learnings amongst their achievements (was it because of em? was it not? happened under them regardless!). So I'm supporting him, there is also currently a "secret" (although everyone knows about it) plan by Mittens of Goonswarm to fill the CSM with 0.0 denizens so that he may steer the CSM as he wishes, a lot of people, I included, think this is less than good. Regardless, there are several candidates, and there may be one you like to vote for as your voice to CCP, and who gets to go to iceland and have a great time. Or don't vote, as I hear most don't :) So it's some kind of cool nerds club?
Tutskii	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:25:00 - [18] Originally by: Lynx Australis Originally by: Tutskii Edited by: Tutskii on 17/03/2011 21:57:37 OIC. Don't worry, I am pretty sure Trebor's gonna make it. Where did he touch you anyway? from what Ive read and seen, he seems like a pretty okay guy, if one with a terrible portrait. Concord just killed my post for pyramid quoting heh. CSM is Council of Stellar Management. It is a publicity stunt/useful forum for guiding CCP's designs. The amount of power and influence of it are up to debate and interpretation. The voting period for the people on it, is on at this time, you can find more information at www.eveonline.com as well as a link to vote. The previous CSM (of which Trebor was chair) counts the removal of the learnings amongst their achievements (was it because of em? was it not? happened under them regardless!). So I'm supporting him, there is also currently a "secret" (although everyone knows about it) plan by Mittens of Goonswarm to fill the CSM with 0.0 denizens so that he may steer the CSM as he wishes, a lot of people, I included, think this is less than good. Regardless, there are several candidates, and there may be one you like to vote for as your voice to CCP, and who gets to go to iceland and have a great time. Or don't vote, as I hear most don't :) So it's some kind of cool nerds club? They are to us what we are to nerds.
Jonathon Silence Thorny Rose Enterprises	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:36:00 - [19] The same question about Kalrand on the voting page has been posted in Jita Park. Nothing has been mentioned by CCP and Kalrand has been quiet as well. Hopefully it is a bug, but on the safe side I would suggest looking at alternate candidates and also if someone who voted for Kalrand could check to see if they got their votes back or to log a petition about it and see if they get a response. Jonathon Silence http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1472967 Vote for Me
Candy Oshea Amarr Techfree Investment Group	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:43:00 - [20] i voted for kalrand. tried to vote for someone else just now, & it come up as my vote has been registered.
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:47:00 - [21] Verified I do not have my votes back. And verifying that Trebor's platform is where he touched me on the doll, basically everything he says makes me cringe.
Tehg Rhind	Posted - 2011.03.17 23:46:00 - [22] Edited by: Tehg Rhind on 17/03/2011 23:47:08 Originally by: Bad Bobby Originally by: Lauren Hellfury I don't see the CSM being able to do anything about that. Someone has to do something about ship balance and CCP thus far has a very poor record in this very important area. I think they need help. If I have to choose only one man to put forward and help them, it's Prom. While I'll accept that he may have a hard time getting changes made, I think it's important for us to do what we can to improve this game in such a critical area. For as much of a market ***** as I am I put both my votes towards Prom. He's part of a very small group of elites that have an exceptionally high level of understanding of how ship balance works, and knows how to get the absolute most out of a ships. You could throw pretty much any ship choice at him and he could spit back the unseen consequences pretty fast. It's one of the very very few places where the major consequences of an idea can be determined to a high degree of accuracy and 'right' and 'wrong' can be narrowed down. However, to do that you have to have someone who is a pro pilot. I consider myself a pretty solid pilot and I have no idea what the full consequences of reducing Dramiel locking ranges would be or adding a midslot to the Enyo or whatever. Really we need a fighter ace in every CSM.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives	Posted - 2011.03.17 23:57:00 - [23] Kalrand has scammed you all of your votes, well done ?
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.03.18 00:09:00 - [24] I voted for Darius III, what can be better for the market than a hisec pirate griefer blowing >trillion in transport ships around Jita?
Expert Troll	Posted - 2011.03.18 00:21:00 - [25] See what happens when you vote for a goon.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2011.03.18 01:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Jonathon Silence The same question about Kalrand on the voting page has been posted in Jita Park. Nothing has been mentioned by CCP and Kalrand has been quiet as well. He pulled an Ankh?
Jonathon Silence Thorny Rose Enterprises	Posted - 2011.03.18 01:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Originally by: Jonathon Silence The same question about Kalrand on the voting page has been posted in Jita Park. Nothing has been mentioned by CCP and Kalrand has been quiet as well. He pulled an Ankh? No idea. I am hearing 'lots' of UNSUBSTANTIATED rumours about what has happned (some of them rather wild and contradictory) but, I have heard nothing definite, nor seen proof one way or another. Jonathon Silence http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1472967 Vote for Me
Alice Celadon	Posted - 2011.03.18 03:44:00 - [28] Kalrand registered about 2 seconds before the deadline if I remember correctly. I find it much more likely that the visa paperwork went awry after the voting had already begun than some odd ****amamie Kalrand scheme.
Misty McGinnity Mystify Trading Company	Posted - 2011.03.18 03:54:00 - [29] Originally by: Alice Celadon my portrait is horrible i too voted for Kalrand. and i would have gotten away with it too, of it wasn't for you rascally kids!!
Florestan Bronstein Amarr Taishi Combine	Posted - 2011.03.18 12:08:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP Xhagen Kalrand requested to have his candidacy withdrawn after the election started and thus we removed him from the candidacy list. Any votes for him will have to stay with him, as (it has been explained above) we cannot link votes to voters. The voting system was specifically designed to leave no record of what user voted (only that the user has voted), even though it leads to being unable to fulfill requests like this one. Linkage

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