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Nyabinghi Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.03.17 21:59:00 - [1] Well after upgrading my skills and probing in a ship with related bonuses I still cannot nail down a Magnetom site to 100&. Best I've gotten is 83%. I'll be zoomed all the way in with 6 probes lined right on top of a yellow point indicating the site is near and just can't lock it for the life of me. What I don't understand is if I can go from 1.7% to 83% why can I not go from 83% to 100%? I waste hours of my time so I am just wondering, how high do your skills have to be to nail down a Magnetom site. Is this a lvl 5 job? ***
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries Matari Legion	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:09:00 - [2] Edited by: Joe Skellington on 17/03/2011 22:10:12 You're talking about a "Magnetometric" site? Try using this method: Linkage It's long, but easy to understand.
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:16:00 - [3] Use 4 probes not 6. ---
Drykor Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:25:00 - [4] Either use a 5 (fifth being a helper middle point) or 8 probe technique, just view some youtube videos on this, easiest way to see. --- Drykor - AHARM
Worgen Fratmon Minmatar Instapop Industries	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:38:00 - [5] Originally by: Drykor Either use a 5 (fifth being a helper middle point) or 8 probe technique, just view some youtube videos on this, easiest way to see. This.
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:49:00 - [6] Gravity Capacitor Upgrade rigs, covert ops, and a sisters launcher/probes helps a lot. I rarely find anything I need more than 4 probes for with max skills. If you're into probing, I would highly recommend maxing your probing skills and getting setup with the above listed equipment. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
Nyabinghi Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.03.17 22:51:00 - [7] I'll change my technique. Usually do do OK but these Magnetom sites are hard as hell. Thanks for the responses all. ***
Nadine Le'Slut	Posted - 2011.03.18 14:41:00 - [8] Edited by: Nadine Le''*** on 18/03/2011 14:42:38* having a probe strength of about 110, this still happens frequently to me i never use more than four probes, and when i get those strange 80-90% signatures, i just move my 0.25au probes a little closer to the sig. evenly. always getting 100% using more than four probes is a waste of time aligning-wise edit: exploration channel is your friend.
Ghengis Tia	Posted - 2011.03.18 15:14:00 - [9] I've heard stories that some lo or 0.0 mag sites drop scores of T2 salvage. I have yet to find any. Lo-sec sites are hard to pin down, sometimes full of rats you have to dispense with, and then the salvage is complete crap. Most radar sites will get you up to 5x or more value. Other than the challenge to see if you can get the site probed, or if you're bored to tears and need something to waste your time doing, mag sites are the big screw job of exploration. I still do them for the above mentioned reasons, but the reward is certainly not anywhere close to the risk you take. Hi-sec mag sites are basically training vehicles for new explorers. Any level 1 combat missions will get you more salvage.
Nisanthro	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Frau Klaps Use 4 probes not 6. noob
Myra2007 Millstone Industries	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:48:00 - [11] When I used to do a lot of exploration I was using a covops, sister probes + launcher, scan strength rigs and with relevant scan skills to 4 and cov ops 5 there wasn't ever a single sig I wasn't able to pin down. Maybe they exist (I haven't done much in 0.0 or the higher lvl wormholes but everything in lowsec and up to class 4 wh) though. I do remember that the mag sites seemed to be harder to probe sometimes. To me it appeared for example that in lowsec the best mag sites are about as hard to find as the 6/10 plexes (which have a lot more potential to be paying well). -- Originally by: Professor Slocombe I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
John Ellsworth Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:07:00 - [12] you really need the primary skill to 5 and the secondary skills at 4 or above to get alot of the mag sites. And yes I support using only 4 probes method. IMHO if you have to use more than 4 probes your skill are lacking..gl
Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:22:00 - [13] I don't have 4/5 scanning skills, I use an anathema to scan, never had a problem scanning anything down 100% with 4 probes. Even when I used a punisher (and much worse skills), I still never had a problem scanning down anything.
John Ellsworth Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Selinate I don't have 4/5 scanning skills, I use an anathema to scan, never had a problem scanning anything down 100% with 4 probes. Even when I used a punisher (and much worse skills), I still never had a problem scanning down anything. When you get the skills to 5 like you should of your srs about probing the difference will be like night and day. I also use the anathema great little ship
Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:45:00 - [15] Originally by: John Ellsworth Originally by: Selinate I don't have 4/5 scanning skills, I use an anathema to scan, never had a problem scanning anything down 100% with 4 probes. Even when I used a punisher (and much worse skills), I still never had a problem scanning down anything. When you get the skills to 5 like you should of your srs about probing the difference will be like night and day. I also use the anathema great little ship I don't disagree, but this is a low sp character atm, so the skills I have work for me at the moment (working on gun skills atm in order to use t2 lasers across the board). The main thing I was pointing out though was the fact that it's not impossible to scan down magnometric and radar sites with low skills and a crappy ship. I did it plenty of times. Hell, I even ninja salvaged in that punisher for a while.
John Ellsworth Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:49:00 - [16] Edited by: John Ellsworth on 20/03/2011 14:50:34 Originally by: Selinate Originally by: John Ellsworth Originally by: Selinate I don't have 4/5 scanning skills, I use an anathema to scan, never had a problem scanning anything down 100% with 4 probes. Even when I used a punisher (and much worse skills), I still never had a problem scanning down anything. When you get the skills to 5 like you should of your srs about probing the difference will be like night and day. I also use the anathema great little ship I don't disagree, but this is a low sp character atm, so the skills I have work for me at the moment (working on gun skills atm in order to use t2 lasers across the board). The main thing I was pointing out though was the fact that it's not impossible to scan down magnometric and radar sites with low skills and a crappy ship. I did it plenty of times. Hell, I even ninja salvaged in that punisher for a while. Well I don't know how many you have found but with maxed skills sometimes I'm taken down to .25 and having to take over 5 minutes to find it, before I have the larger skills learned it was impossible to find these "hard mag locations" primary reason I upped the skills from the 3RD block levels.cause before that it was impossible
Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:52:00 - [17] Originally by: John Ellsworth Well I don't know how many you have found but with maxed skills sometimes I'm taken down to .25 and having to take over 5 minutes to find it, before I have the larger skills learned it was impossible to find these "hard mag locations" primary reason I upped the skills from the RD block levels. Quite a few, actually. Maybe I'm just epic, I don't know, but the only thing that I wasn't able to scan down was a tengu at one point which was missioning (It's not that I peaked out at a percent and couldn't get it higher, it was that the tengu left before I could finish, but up to that point it was a ***** to scan down). Every other time I went exploring about, and picked up a site, I was always able to scan it down to 100% using 4 probes. Never had much trouble.
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Men Who Stare At Gates	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:14:00 - [18] With a little experience you never need more than 4 Probes, a fifth one doesnt even improve any result. There are certain high value sigs (such as "The Maze", "H-PA Booster", "Digital Plexus" or "Provincal HQ") which just need better skills to get a hit. Not every kind of site is easy to find. For combat plexes there is a rating 1/10 to 10/10. The lower the plex the easier it is to find. Same goes for every other kind of signature, just without an official kind of rating. When my skills werent as high as they are now, i used to overhurry a bit and messed up. If you reduce the scan radius too fast you cant find the signature, try to improve the radius again. Things you really want to earn isk though signatures are: Covert Ops V (2 Gravity Rigs) Astrometric Rangefinding 4 (10% Scan Strength per level) Astrometric Pinpointing 3-4 (10% less scan deviation per level) Astrometric Aquisition 3-4 (10% less scan time per level) The really hard to find signatures will still require you to go to 0.25 AU but they are found within 1 or 2 tries then.
Tarasina	Posted - 2011.03.20 16:09:00 - [19] There is also the "prospector"-set of implants if you are seriously into exploration. Scan strength, deviation and bonuses for codebreaker etc.
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.03.21 11:22:00 - [20] Originally by: Frau Klaps Use 4 probes not 6. ^^ This! I've seen the tutorial. I've heard a lot of people insist on using 5 probes. Even people with slightly better probing skills in my corp sometimes complain they have a hard time pinpointing a target. I've never had problems with 4 probes. I believe that in some instances the 5th probe actually confuses your readings.
Ingvar Angst Amarr Omni Industrial Coalition	Posted - 2011.03.21 13:13:00 - [21] I use six probes and no longer have anything that I can't get to 100%. Pretty simple... Let's say your initial settings are to 16AU, you'll have five probes at 16 (one in the center and four N, S, E and W) with the sixth one at 8AU in the center as well. The outer four probes overlap the center one to nearly the opposite edge from where they are, forming a bubbly looking square in the middle. Simply keep reducing the ranges and close the probes in and you'll get it. If you get all the probes to min. range and still haven't hit 100%, bring them in tight around the target and use the middle two probes to go above and below as well. Never fails.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.03.21 13:35:00 - [22] Originally by: Tarasina There is also the "prospector"-set of implants if you are seriously into exploration. Scan strength, deviation and bonuses for codebreaker etc. LG virtue implant set. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Drykor Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2011.03.22 15:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Mr Kidd Originally by: Frau Klaps Use 4 probes not 6. ^^ This! I've seen the tutorial. I've heard a lot of people insist on using 5 probes. Even people with slightly better probing skills in my corp sometimes complain they have a hard time pinpointing a target. I've never had problems with 4 probes. I believe that in some instances the 5th probe actually confuses your readings. The 5th probe will help you position your probes, it's not actually relevant for the strength. --- Drykor - AHARM
Corporal Punishment08 NosWaffle Nostradamus Effect	Posted - 2011.03.22 16:15:00 - [24] I'll tell you, I use 6 probes and with mediocre skills, I'm able to pretty much find any site within a short amount of time. 1 in the middle, 5 staggered evenly in a pentagon shape. Every once in a while I will have trouble, so I move the center probe up, move a probe down, and then stagger 4 around the signature, and that scans it to 100% first try (If I'm already at .25 AUs). _____________________________________ Real men corpse tank.
Layna Law	Posted - 2011.03.22 16:24:00 - [25] I am very new with 3s and 4s in the skills needed, but Have gotten pretty quick in nailing down sites. Once you get the red or yellow site marker make sure you zoom waaay in and position your probes right on top of the site before reducing scan range. I run with 4 probes unless it gets weird. It never takes more than 10 minutes for me as of late.

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