100mil an hour? Are you joking? Why aren't you in highsec running incursions. Safer, easier, roughly the same money, and no annoying logistics problems.

Run it with as few people as possible, 4 tengus should be your max if you want to have any hope of actually making decent money.

100mil an hour? Are you joking? Why aren't you in highsec running incursions. Safer, easier, roughly the same money, and no annoying logistics problems.

Run it with as few people as possible, 4 tengus should be your max if you want to have any hope of actually making decent money.

Well the way I do it in my C4 for what it's worth...

1 Chimera - 1 Large Shield Transfer, 1 Large Cap Transfer, 1 Capital Shield Transfer plus omni tank mods
1 Tengu - 5 Heavy Launcher II's, 1 Medium Shield Transfer, 10mn Ab II, Invulns, etc

Warp the carrier in then the Tengu, lock the the carrier, orbit the carrier at 2500km with ab and shield rep running. Lock the Tengu with the carrier with the Large Shield Rep and Large Cap Transfer running (this is for when the sleepers neut the life out of the Tengu, the carrier can handle it easily but without the ab running the Tengu has a bad day). Only use the Capital Shield Rep on the Tengu when it starts taking heavy damage from the higher end anom's otherwise you kill the carrier's cap, otherwise the Large Shield Rep is more than enough to handle any damage it takes.

As a side note, if you have multiple accounts and have a carrier and Tengu toon, I would advise training the Tengu pilot for analyzers and codebreakers, setup 2 interceptors with 2 modules each, which are the fastest way I have found to do the high end sites with. Also train the Tengu toon up for a Noctis for salvaging. Store the interceptors and Noctis in the carrier. This way you can run the anoms, then just swap out ships from the carrier's ship bay which saves alot of time warping to the pos and swapping.


Oh btw don't ever warp both toons out of the anom before hacking the sites otherwise they will disappear and you will not be a happy panda.

And Incursions vs Wormholes? Why would you want to deal with a bunch of empire bound mentally challenged people when you don't have to? Wormholes are better than 0.0 in my opinion, you get decent money and don't have to deal with the 0.0 immature politics. Only issue with the Wormholes in my opinion is having to haul the fuel in for the pos, the lack of local just makes it interesting.

An excellent point: if you want to live in the C4 you can build IN a carrier, which can provide a LOT of extra damage and support. Just have to be careful with it, but really it's about the same cost as a nice Tengu (maybe a little more, but it's partially covered by base insurance).

Svo.

A counter point to that though is that the applied dps of a carrier to sleepers is pitiful.

A chimera, as the example given, only does 1000 dps at most with 10 fighters but fighters don't apply damage to frigates and cruisers very well, and dropping heavy or sentry drones lowers the dps to below 700. In reality that carrier pilot would be better used flying a tengu or even a battleship.


Though if you want to rat with your carrier, don't let me stop you, just watch for K162's.

A counter point to that though is that the applied dps of a carrier to sleepers is pitiful.

A chimera, as the example given, only does 1000 dps at most with 10 fighters but fighters don't apply damage to frigates and cruisers very well, and dropping heavy or sentry drones lowers the dps to below 700. In reality that carrier pilot would be better used flying a tengu or even a battleship.


Though if you want to rat with your carrier, don't let me stop you, just watch for K162's.

Orge II's are the drones to use against the sleepers. Fighters are a complete waste of time imo. I should have specified the drones I use in the original post, sorry.

3 tengus with local tank works aswell.

also known as 3 dead tengus thanks to neuting

Because we like Wormholes.....

Minimum 1500 tank to deal with all anomaly waves. I'd suggest a minimum of 800 dps to make the sites worth it. You can solo it in an uber tengu but it takes too long to be worth it imo. The most efficient is a battleship gang supported by logi or a standard passive c5 tengu fit with large shield transporter as the only active mod.

I would say 3-8 pilot range keeps you earning good money. Fewer makes it difficult to clear enough sites, more stops increasing the number of sites completed per pilot.

If you're not quite ready for C5s it is a great class of wormhole to work in as a group. We run 3 tengus or 3 battleships 1 logi. Earns a little over 100 mil an hour per pilot. Split into squads if you have too many pilots and clear twice as many sites instead of only an additional 2-4.

Svo.

An uber tengu can do both 1500 tank and 800 dps for about 3 bill. Still expensive, but it appeals to some.

I solo c4s in a vanilla t2 100mn ab tengu regularly. Biggest thing to look out for is the neuting BSs which you can orbit at about 71kms. Takes about 30min to run a site.

A counter point to that though is that the applied dps of a carrier to sleepers is pitiful.

A chimera, as the example given, only does 1000 dps at most with 10 fighters but fighters don't apply damage to frigates and cruisers very well, and dropping heavy or sentry drones lowers the dps to below 700. In reality that carrier pilot would be better used flying a tengu or even a battleship.


Though if you want to rat with your carrier, don't let me stop you, just watch for K162's.

I solo c4s in a vanilla t2 100mn ab tengu regularly. Biggest thing to look out for is the neuting BSs which you can orbit at about 71kms. Takes about 30min to run a site.