I don't mind if Two Step wants to nerf the hell out of lower class wormholes, so long as he does his "job" and tells CCP that pretty much everyone except him DOESN'T want that :)

I honestly can't see anything good coming out of nerfing lower class wormholes. All I see happening is the depopulation of the lower classes, fewer people in wormhole space in general, and the remaining ones moving into ever growing huge alliances (because good luck establishing a c5/c6 home if you're a solitary small corp). Two Step, you have to look at both sides of this, not just people (both big and small entities) wishing to evict people from lower classes, but also people who wish to live in lower classes. Why would ANYONE ever move into a lower class wormhole if the system effects are worse, the isk is pathetic AND they have a horrific limitation put on their defenses (a limitation not even high sec has)?

It seems to fly in the face of the "risk vs reward" thing we have going in EVE. Higher risk for higher rewards. Except apparently in lower class wormholes, where you want higher risk and lower rewards. Dumb.

I'll start responding to your posts once you start posting with your main.

Your arrogance is astounding. Main or alt makes no difference if it's a legit eve character on an account being paid for; an account that helps pay for your free forking trips to Iceland. Such a character has every forking right to ask you questions. His subscription fees entitle him to the same representation on the CSM as anybody else. You are clueless and you have no place on the CSM.

I'd rather be represented by an entire CSM full of Goons or PL guys than you. You need to start stepping up to the plate, little man, and start representing the players who elected you.

Please post with your main.

NPC alts should stay away from posting, forever.

Please post with your main.

Maybe it's time to let the whole POS size issue die. If we work on the principle that the majority rules, then Two Step's views can be discounted and we should trust that CCP have people on staff that agree with our opinions on the matter.

Please post with your main.

Personally, I "trust" that CCP doesn't consider w-space and those of us who live here to be on equal footing to Nullsec. I really don't expect that CCP will debate among themselves how changes they make for the benefit of Nullsec will affect us, that's why they have the CSM. When they make comments or suggestions and ask for input, if Two Step says it's all good for w-space, they won't stop to ask him whether that is his own viewpoint or that of his constituents. And rightly so. That's what elected representation is all about.

Collectively, we elected Two Step to represent our needs and fight for us in the eyes of CCP, and he is failing to do so. We have few choices other than putting someone else on the CSM next time to hopefully represent us more faithfully. I'm not even sure trying to go around Two Step to address CCP directly would work.

Meanwhile, we must keep trying to break through Two Step's thick skull in the hopes that he may yet start doing the job for which he was elected.

^This.
If people don't care enough about something to post on their main, why should Two Step care enough to respond on his main?

^This.
If people don't care enough about something to post on their main, why should Two Step care enough to respond on his main?

^This.
If people don't care enough about something to post on their main, why should Two Step care enough to respond on his main?

One of the issues with peopel posting with alts is you have no idea if they are doing it to score points off another or just because they dont like the person in question, They might have nothing at all to do with wh's and just use it as a cheap shot at people.

Posting with your main atleast lets people know who they are and then its easy to see if its point scoring being a douche or some one who does live in wh's who is genuinely concerned.

I really have no idea why people wouldnt want to post with there main, I've spoke to a number of people about some of the stuff on pos's on both our ts and there ts and while some i dont agree with with its always been civilised.

at the end of teh day if you want to get your point across just be polite and civil.

I personally dont see any issue with large pos's in low class wh's i do think nerfing ecm alot would help sort that issue out as others have stated.

but there is a diffence with me posting it like that and going

OMG TWO STEP HOW OFTEN DO I HAVE TO SCREAM AT YOU TO LISTEN YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT HIGH END WHS NOT OUR STUFF YOU DONT KNWO ANYTHING LEAVE IT HOW IT IS FOR US.

Two Step, I know I've poked you a couple of times about AHARM's attempt to bash a POS in a C3 and then the carnage that followed, but try to see it from the perspective of those of us who live in C1-C4 systems.

We do this sort of thing all the time. Yes, we even get jumped from time to time (though the more organized groups tend to have scouts making it less of a bloodbath). WE have to face the large dickstars with no siege Dreads, you don't. WE have to spend the extra time shooting a tower while hostile third parties could jump in on us; because these systems are so accessible from k-space, it could happen at any moment and local could spike immediately. We know this, and we choose to live here anyway.

Please post with your main.

It's pretty sad to see this from a "representative" voice. This is a bunk argument and meaningless. Either the points are valid or invalid. The poster delivering those points is immaterial. Attack the debate, not the debater. Simple enough for some, shame that you aren't doing so.

From the context of THAT message it is pretty clear to me that the person who is making the post is at least aware of w-space mechanics. He brought up and illustrated points that are valid despite the toon with which he posted them.

you dont get it... lets see if I can explain.

what if suddenly I decided that I want WH stabilizers and i went and created 100 noob alts on trial accounts and posted posts regrading WH stabilizers and how awesome they are and with 100 posts backing myself up? should Two Step then go 'oh, well, lots of people seem to want WH stabilizers, maybe I should get CCP to add them' ? obviously not.
obviously i'm exaggerating and picked a stupid topic for dramatic effect but you should get the point.

likewise here, the most vocal group against nerfing low class POSs have been TL (understandably), so what's to stop them from all alt posting to get their agenda across?
i'm not suggesting they are doing so or would do so but again, you should get the point.

tl;dr: alt posting is bad mmk?

you dont get it... lets see if I can explain.

what if suddenly I decided that I want WH stabilizers and i went and created 100 noob alts on trial accounts and posted posts regrading WH stabilizers and how awesome they are and with 100 posts backing myself up? should Two Step then go 'oh, well, lots of people seem to want WH stabilizers, maybe I should get CCP to add them' ? obviously not.
obviously i'm exaggerating and picked a stupid topic for dramatic effect but you should get the point.

likewise here, the most vocal group against nerfing low class POSs have been TL (understandably), so what's to stop them from all alt posting to get their agenda across?
i'm not suggesting they are doing so or would do so but again, you should get the point.

tl;dr: alt posting is bad mmk?

good to see this thread has derailed into the region of stupidity ive come to expect in most threads over 2-3 pages long...
im removing this from my BMs, i would suggest two step do the same.

good to see this thread has derailed into the region of stupidity ive come to expect in most threads over 2-3 pages long...
im removing this from my BMs, i would suggest two step do the same.

good to see this thread has derailed into the region of stupidity ive come to expect in most threads over 2-3 pages long...
im removing this from my BMs, i would suggest two step do the same.