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Manks Girl Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:14:00 - [1] 30mins and 80 outstanding calls.... CCP start working on weekends! coz this is sh*t!
Horizonist Gallente Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:17:00 - [2] Well in all honesty, if you bring a blob, I don't see why you would expect anything short of massive lag fests. That said, Eve does need a core rewrite to deal with all of this, the current fixes to it unfortunately only puts patches on a tumor. The core system needs a fundamental redesign.
Porky Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:18:00 - [3] It is just a game..... a very very bad game that is. I think we can all people in o2o can agree to this.
Razzor Death Gallente Bat Country Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:19:00 - [4] inb4 mini v0v
hackerus Caldari Strategic Syndicate -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:31:00 - [5] I tried to jump into 020 an hour before downtime. Grid barely loaded but nothign worked corectly. remtoe call monitor stacked commands. I gave up. I tried to login immediatly after downtime. I started logging in when timer showed 3 seconds. I was black screened for half an hour and gave up. Closed the client. So far today I have been awake for 2 hours and spent 1 of those staring at black screens, waited half an hour during a downtime, and the other 30 i walked away from the pc. I check the killboards and my cap is dead. Aparently it died over half an hour after I gave up tryign to log in. FIX THE GAME. NOTHING WORKS. WE PAY YOU MONEY TO PLAY AND THIS GAME AND DOZENS OF THINGS DONT WORK !!!!!!!!!!
Jack Mancetti Minmatar Rennfeuer Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:35:00 - [6] Edited by: Jack Mancetti on 20/03/2011 13:35:28 Get we free play time,after sitting more then 2h in front of this boring logginscreen
Myz Toyou Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:37:00 - [7] NC tears about not loading systems for their massiv blob makes me all moist
Captain Koo Caldari Erasers inc. Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:43:00 - [8] its funny. We had a good fight before the downtime local reaching 1800. but after the downtime nothing works, absolutely nothing. Local is only 1200 and every single command (even the corp chat) has a latency of 30 minutes, not seconds. What happened CCP? Did you move the extra hamsters to Jita node? -Koo
Mikalya Amarr Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:51:00 - [9] Originally by: Captain Koo its funny. We had a good fight before the downtime local reaching 1800. Remember when fleet fights lagged at 200 in local? Might not seem like much but progress is being made. In the immortal words of Crumplecorn: - The PitBoss: AGREED .. getting paid to farm your alliance isn't real pvp/merc work
Captain Koo Caldari Erasers inc. Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:55:00 - [10] Originally by: Mikalya Originally by: Captain Koo its funny. We had a good fight before the downtime local reaching 1800. Remember when fleet fights lagged at 200 in local? Might not seem like much but progress is being made. In the immortal words of Crumplecorn: ofc I understand. but this is complete crap that you have to "Guess-estimate" hows the node is going to do today. Now the local is under 1000 (a medium number by our counts) and still everything is completely frozen. And one more funny thing, you can see people warp / chat / jump in realtime (I watched my alt warp and jump), but your outgoing request are lagging for those 30 mins. -Koo
Manks Girl Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:57:00 - [11] But at least we have nice Character Avatars! Any progress is good progress??
Anadeh Gallente IRpost	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:05:00 - [12] Loool. You are so pathetic. Step 1: Join NC blueball lemonparty. Step 2: Blobb system Step 3: Lag system to hell Step 4: Cry and whine oh forum about lags. Step 5: Go to step 4.
EOH Minigin Caldari Eve Online Hold'Em ISK Six	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:15:00 - [13] Edited by: EOH Minigin on 20/03/2011 14:21:09 ahahahahahaha. btw, this one time i had my friend build me a boat. hes pretty smart but he isnt god, so he made a boat that could only carry my weight + 20 kilos. over the summer i got pretty hungry. i started eating lots of doughnuts and cakes, and icecream... oh man i like icecream. long story short i now weight 60 kilos + the 50 i put on. so the other day i decided to take the boat out on the lake. my friend told me that he would try his best to get the boat to carry my new found flesh, but he cant do that overnight. im a bit of an impatient guy though so i take the boat out on the lake and the results are obvious. i started abusing him and threatening to take legal action. now he doesnt want to fix my boat =( life is just so unfair. also in at the same time as me. WANNA PLAY POKER IN EVE FOR ISK???? www.eohpoker.com
Arox Dax Gallente Volition Cult -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:21:00 - [14] No crying or whining here I was in the bad books with my Mrs because I got up early on a Sunday Morning to play a stupid game, as she calls it,(yeah,I actually have a life outside of eve, enough of a life to have a wife,kids and grandkids) So while trying to log into 020 before DT I had time to make reparations to my wife by making her breakfast in bed, got me back in the goodbooks a little, by the time she had finished her breakfast, I had loaded grid, joined fleet and got on a couple of titan kills and an SC I think. After DT I tried to log in, but tbh 2000 people trying to log into the same system at the same time, well thats not going to go well So while waiting, my daughter asked for a lift to town, took her, came back, still black screen, now my Mrs is asking me to take her shopping, might as well, because a) Still got black screen b) Will ensure I'm in her goodbooks So I'm not whining about lag, it's helping my RL, and if I come back to find I'm in a new clone in station, well hell, beats a black screen
EOH Minigin Caldari Eve Online Hold'Em ISK Six	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Arox Dax No crying or whining here I was in the bad books with my Mrs because I got up early on a Sunday Morning to play a stupid game, as she calls it,(yeah,I actually have a life outside of eve, enough of a life to have a wife,kids and grandkids) So while trying to log into 020 before DT I had time to make reparations to my wife by making her breakfast in bed, got me back in the goodbooks a little, by the time she had finished her breakfast, I had loaded grid, joined fleet and got on a couple of titan kills and an SC I think. After DT I tried to log in, but tbh 2000 people trying to log into the same system at the same time, well thats not going to go well So while waiting, my daughter asked for a lift to town, took her, came back, still black screen, now my Mrs is asking me to take her shopping, might as well, because a) Still got black screen b) Will ensure I'm in her goodbooks So I'm not whining about lag, it's helping my RL, and if I come back to find I'm in a new clone in station, well hell, beats a black screen the question is friend... do you like icecream???? WANNA PLAY POKER IN EVE FOR ISK???? www.eohpoker.com
Shadow Bloodtear Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:37:00 - [16] It took me bloody 90 minutes to recall my bombers. Local is now at 875, and I've been waiting 40 minutes to jump out. There is no shooting going on in system, there is no combat. This system has a smaller population than Jita, and we sit here for hours trying to log out so we can go to bed. But we can't just log, because people who logged over an hour ago are still ongrid waiting to die...
EOH Minigin Caldari Eve Online Hold'Em ISK Six	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Shadow Bloodtear It took me bloody 90 minutes to recall my bombers. Local is now at 875, and I've been waiting 40 minutes to jump out. There is no shooting going on in system, there is no combat. This system has a smaller population than Jita, and we sit here for hours trying to log out so we can go to bed. But we can't just log, because people who logged over an hour ago are still ongrid waiting to die... if only you knew this was the risk before you got involved!!! oh cruel fate why do you curse these innocents! WANNA PLAY POKER IN EVE FOR ISK???? www.eohpoker.com
Drazi1 Minmatar The Knights Templar R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:44:00 - [18] CCP markets the game as being able to have fleet fights etc, but in game it dosen't happen, so u could call that a lie
EOH Minigin Caldari Eve Online Hold'Em ISK Six	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Drazi1 CCP markets the game as being able to have fleet fights etc, but in game it dosen't happen, so u could call that a lie my car can handle the "toughest terrain" ergo: i can drive it up a sheer cliff. if you cant decide for yourself how to interpret the words of others... dont come to me crying about something anyone over 10 could have figured out. WANNA PLAY POKER IN EVE FOR ISK???? www.eohpoker.com
Gumpy Nighthawk Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:51:00 - [20] Oh well we have enough isk, everything will be replaced again anyway Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts.
5n4keyes Caldari Sacred Templars RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.03.20 14:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Drazi1 CCP markets the game as being able to have fleet fights etc, but in game it dosen't happen, so u could call that a lie Well, that is true... But by fleet fights, they mean Fleet vs Fleet, and a fleet is 251 members. They dont market, blob vs blob vs anyone else who feels like km whoring.
glitterbomb Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:00:00 - [22] You guys do realize you are the problem.. not the game if u werent massive ***s that need 1000 ppl to do anything. then the game would work fine. ^^
DethApostle Amarr Quam Singulari Session Changes	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:14:00 - [23] Crash the node, no longer a viable tactic? Insert ironic sig here
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Men Who Stare At Gates	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:22:00 - [24] Originally by: 5n4keyes Originally by: Drazi1 CCP markets the game as being able to have fleet fights etc, but in game it dosen't happen, so u could call that a lie Well, that is true... But by fleet fights, they mean Fleet vs Fleet, and a fleet is 251 members. They dont market, blob vs blob vs anyone else who feels like km whoring. Wait, didnt they do a trailer with "Thousands of players fighting"?
Anadeh Gallente IRpost	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:25:00 - [25] Edited by: Anadeh on 20/03/2011 15:26:12 Originally by: DethApostle Crash the node, no longer a viable tactic? No. It falls into soul-crushing lag up to 40-50-60 minutes, and mostly who jusp into system will be blackscreened until DT. Originally by: Naomi Wildfire Wait, didnt they do a trailer with "Thousands of players fighting"? they do fight. Mostly against red crosses and in different systems %)
DethApostle Amarr Quam Singulari Session Changes	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:27:00 - [26] Edited by: DethApostle on 20/03/2011 15:27:07 Originally by: Naomi Wildfire Originally by: 5n4keyes Originally by: Drazi1 CCP markets the game as being able to have fleet fights etc, but in game it dosen't happen, so u could call that a lie Well, that is true... But by fleet fights, they mean Fleet vs Fleet, and a fleet is 251 members. They dont market, blob vs blob vs anyone else who feels like km whoring. Wait, didnt they do a trailer with "Thousands of players fighting"? The average MMO player would assume that to mean across the server. Not in one system, at one specific spot. Insert ironic sig here
GOUSGOUNIS THEOS Minmatar Exiled Gathering HELL4S	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:37:00 - [27] The game is made to favor blob. Problem is, each time they introduce a fix to handle more people in a system the blobs become bigger and bigger to the point the system can't handle more. And you end up in a circle of death, unless the game mechanics change this **** will keep happens. M34N Killboard
Buxaroo Gallente Versatech Co. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:38:00 - [28] Originally by: Manks Girl 30mins and 80 outstanding calls.... CCP start working on weekends! coz this is sh*t! :jumps in 1000+ pilots to lag the system: :complains about lag: :lol: hey, I think I am catching on to the goon posting standards and I am liking it
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Men Who Stare At Gates	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:41:00 - [29] Quote: The average MMO player would assume that to mean across the server. Not in one system, at one specific spot. but since this is no average MMO, the average EVE player asumes its in one system
EOH Minigin Caldari Eve Online Hold'Em ISK Six	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:53:00 - [30] this one time my mother told me i was the brightest boy in all the world. when i got to grade 1, for some reason my results seemed avarage. i was puzzled. my mother again told me i was the brightest boy in all the world. blindly knowing my mother would never lie to me, i assumed the tests were mistaken. when i got into grade 6 my teacher told me i might need to repeat a grade because i was far behind. i cried and asked my mother why this was happening to the brightest boy in the world. again my mother reassured me and again i believed her. at senior school all my teachers said i did reasonably well for my what i had to work with. though i never admitted it this hurt me greatly, but i did not consult my mother. finaly at university i walked into a class and assumed i was among the least gifted in my group. my mother still believes me to be the brightest star. what you believe does not always matter. what is true can be pretty damned inescapable. ps. im actually a god damned hero. WANNA PLAY POKER IN EVE FOR ISK???? www.eohpoker.com
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Men Who Stare At Gates	Posted - 2011.03.20 15:56:00 - [31]
Horizonist Gallente Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.03.20 16:00:00 - [32] Originally by: Naomi Wildfire <3 <3 <3 <3 Fuzzy
Myb Minmatar V0LTA VOLTA Corp	Posted - 2011.03.20 16:13:00 - [33] Waaaaaaaaa our titans are dying also waaaaa Seriously it's ok when the lagg works for u but when it doesn't u cry?? Fuk off u stupid prick Ps Mon the Russians !!!
Aedron Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2011.03.20 16:15:00 - [34] maybe everyone is looking at this all wrong, maybe the game just isn't supposed to be about blobbing as many people as you possibly can into a single node. It sure as ** isn't any fun for the players involved so why the hell do people do it? I still don't understand why alliances don't try to use their numbers to their advantage rather than just break the game in a single point. I'm talking about going back to some tactics... I know its hard for a lot of people to rethink and rework it, however if done correctly you can eliminate lag issues and if done effectively you may even accomplish your objectives much faster. An example, you have 800 people at your disposal as just a figure plucked from thin air so scale accordingly. Rather than just blobbing the 800 people into 1 system you break your forces into smaller groups and open up multiple fronts. something like; 1x 200 capital fleet 6x 100 man fleet You send in the 6 sup-cap fleets to 6 different target systems. Have the capitals stage in a system which can hit all 6 systems being assaulted by the sub-caps. The standard defence would be a form up in 1 key system and setup within it. the 100 man attacking fleet that heads to that system will have the job of keeping the enemy busy and scouting the main defence fleets movements. They are not going to engage 100 Vs 800 for example so safe up and keep moving around system, they are not achieving their objective of taking that 1 system but the other 5 sub-cap fleets are, lag free. The capitals can be jumped to reinforce the efforts from system to system. If the enemy fleet starts to move you counter by reinforcing an alternative location. The only possible way to counter would be for the defenders to divide their forces and try to cover all the systems. Unprepared it will take time, randoms will have to step up and FC it will be a ** show. Most alliances will just resort to covering that 1 system for the duration. Throw Titans into the mix with the correct leadership and you can combine the 100 man fleets in key locations, if an enemy fleet starts to move you can cut them off mid-transit and catch them straggled out over a few jumps, 1 cyno could potentially have you full force jump-able onto their weak spot. allocate 3x 100 man gang +capitals to fight the enemy off guard for example meanwhile your still taking over 3 systems. Above all, it removed the blob, which would ultimately remove lag... but then I guess its just easier to blob and most will TLDR my post :P Aedron
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.20 16:38:00 - [35] I hate threads like this. CCP have constantly improved the game server, dedicated an entire team to identifying and reducing lag, and have improved the game a long way from the January -> September 2010 dominion lag-fest. The server is good enough that I've consistently been in 700 in local fights with over 500 people on the field and only had minor 2 second module lag, if this was march 2010 the node would have died. CCP have improved eve a lot in the past 8 months, and posts like this just shove it all in their faces. Maybe the problem is that you're just self-entitled dimwits. We're all paying customers, not just the 3000 of you trying to mass login to the same system at once. I'm sorry that you aren't able to play the game you want to be able too, but raging at CCP when they have probably improved the game on the server side the most they ever have recently just makes you seem like an ungrateful ***got. ---
Deitre Cibrus Caldari Sigma Dynamics	Posted - 2011.03.20 18:05:00 - [36] Originally by: Jack Mancetti Edited by: Jack Mancetti on 20/03/2011 13:35:28 Get we free play time,after sitting more then 2h in front of this boring logginscreen Only got yourself to blame. ----------- Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread. What is this sig missing? Pretty colours? -Conuion Not true! Has plenty -Deitre
Ace Frehley Minmatar Mercenaries of Andosia Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.20 18:35:00 - [37] MOAHAHAHHAA I get a boner from NC whining about lag. Dont bring more then 200 or let 1 alliance deal with and see how smooth the game floats. Stop beeing a mindless bot and whine. But I guess most NC are scared to even try go outnumberd or in even numbers. I remember when I was in Atlas, we came with 240-250, NC dident even dare to come if they dident have atleast 500 and then whined the **** about lag... Learn that equal fights are the funnest aprt or even go in with less
Vardec Crom Caldari Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.03.20 19:02:00 - [38] Originally by: EOH Minigin Irrelevant stuff You are really good at copy-pasting anecdotal stories form the internet that have almost no relevance to the topic at hand. The topic being: Why do "blob" coalitions complain about lag when they jump 1000+ players into a system. The answer to me seems self-evident. People enjoy very large fleet fights, something that should be possible in a sandbox game where player made empires are battling for space. The problem is, CCP doesn't have the technology and software capabilities to handle it. So who is at fault, the players playing a sandbox game on their own terms, or CCP for facilitating game play outside of their technological capability? As far as the people saying, "The NC can only do anything with 1000 people". That very well may be, but this is a sandbox game, there is no wrong way to do something. As far as I'm concerned, it's a classic haters gonna hate situation, given the success of NC and friends.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.20 19:08:00 - [39] Originally by: Vardec Crom As far as I'm concerned, it's a classic haters gonna hate situation, given the success of NC and friends. With all that success why do they act like whiny babies when something doesn't go their way. Just a couple of days ago there was a situation where DRF titans were blackscreened, and NC were more than happy to shoot them. I don't see a thread from the NC asking CCP to fix the game that day. --- I does like have spaceship vids n stuff
Vardec Crom Caldari Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.03.20 19:18:00 - [40] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Vardec Crom As far as I'm concerned, it's a classic haters gonna hate situation, given the success of NC and friends. With all that success why do they act like whiny babies when something doesn't go their way. Just a couple of days ago there was a situation where DRF titans were blackscreened, and NC were more than happy to shoot them. I don't see a thread from the NC asking CCP to fix the game that day. Once again, you're missing the point, as shocking as it may sound, people WANT to fight, so when situations like a 2000 man 020 fight occur it's very frustrating for the parties involved. I personally don't understand why you can't take into account the jubilations of victory and the frustrations of defeat when assessing the complaints. I think it's safe to say human nature is at play here, but that doesn't give the NC, or anyone else for that matter, less of a right to complain about lag.
r3voo Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.20 19:19:00 - [41] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Vardec Crom As far as I'm concerned, it's a classic haters gonna hate situation, given the success of NC and friends. With all that success why do they act like whiny babies when something doesn't go their way. Just a couple of days ago there was a situation where DRF titans were blackscreened, and NC were more than happy to shoot them. I don't see a thread from the NC asking CCP to fix the game that day. You funny You rly funny You are amazing You are da best You must be since you are PL
Ascendic Caldari Lyonesse. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.03.20 19:22:00 - [42] Minigun; Your vagina is stinking up these forums constantly. Please close your legs and see a doctor.
CATERPlLLAR Minmatar Hikage Corporation RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.03.20 19:34:00 - [43] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar With all that success why do they act like whiny babies when something doesn't go their way. Just a couple of days ago there was a situation where DRF titans were blackscreened, and NC were more than happy to shoot them. I don't see a thread from the NC asking CCP to fix the game that day. +1 lol NC, stfu and gtfo. Start failcascade...3...2...
Ace Frehley Minmatar Mercenaries of Andosia Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.20 19:36:00 - [44] Originally by: Vardec Crom Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Vardec Crom As far as I'm concerned, it's a classic haters gonna hate situation, given the success of NC and friends. With all that success why do they act like whiny babies when something doesn't go their way. Just a couple of days ago there was a situation where DRF titans were blackscreened, and NC were more than happy to shoot them. I don't see a thread from the NC asking CCP to fix the game that day. Once again, you're missing the point, as shocking as it may sound, people WANT to fight, so when situations like a 2000 man 020 fight occur it's very frustrating for the parties involved. I personally don't understand why you can't take into account the jubilations of victory and the frustrations of defeat when assessing the complaints. I think it's safe to say human nature is at play here, but that doesn't give the NC, or anyone else for that matter, less of a right to complain about lag. Isent 200 large enough for you? Or wait, or wait, you must have the magical 2-1 ratio, so you always have atleast like 500 and then the lag starts to kick in, stop with the 2-1 ratio and fight 1-1 ratio and enyoj nice fleetbattles.
EI Digin Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.03.20 20:55:00 - [45] Eve Online... a bad game??
Inquisitor Cerberuso Amarr Hounds of Helll	Posted - 2011.03.20 21:11:00 - [46] Originally by: r3voo Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Vardec Crom As far as I'm concerned, it's a classic haters gonna hate situation, given the success of NC and friends. With all that success why do they act like whiny babies when something doesn't go their way. Just a couple of days ago there was a situation where DRF titans were blackscreened, and NC were more than happy to shoot them. I don't see a thread from the NC asking CCP to fix the game that day. You funny You rly funny You are amazing You are da best You must be since you are PL This is madness!
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Men Who Stare At Gates	Posted - 2011.03.20 21:17:00 - [47] Quote: Learn that equal fights are the funnest aprt or even go in with less The fact Quote: Atlas The lol Quote: we came with 240-250 the gay part
Captain Thunk Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.20 21:25:00 - [48] Originally by: Vardec Crom The answer to me seems self-evident. People enjoy very large fleet fights, something that should be possible in a sandbox game where player made empires are battling for space. The problem is, CCP doesn't have the technology and software capabilities to handle it. So who is at fault, the players playing a sandbox game on their own terms, or CCP for facilitating game play outside of their technological capability? As far as the people saying, "The NC can only do anything with 1000 people". That very well may be, but this is a sandbox game, there is no wrong way to do something. As far as I'm concerned, it's a classic haters gonna hate situation, given the success of NC and friends. No other game that I have heard of comes close to handling as many single players within one system all shooting one of 2 targets. Simple fact is, if CCP can't handle it, no-one can. People enjoy winning, the only way you can win in this game if you happen to be very bad is to blob your enemy. Unfortunately what you've missed is that there is literally nothing CCP can actually do to "fix" it. Hypothetically if CCP were to halve lag, then the very next large fight NC can and will turn up with 2000+ instead of 1000. There is nothing CCP can ever do to control this. So the only option is to accept that every now and then you will lag yourselves out with your own fleet to comical effect. Whining about what you've done and expecting CCP to come up with some magical fix is hillarious though, so kindly ignore me and carry on.
fpshacker Gallente Zor Industries Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.20 21:39:00 - [49] A Haiku: Blackscreen Merciless Foe Births Tears of Northern Scrubs Krutoj Now Very Smug So long NC o/
Jones Bones Minmatar Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.20 22:22:00 - [50] Mini...what type of ice cream? Cookies n cream best ice cream.
Elektrea Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.20 22:45:00 - [51] bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ----------
Needa3 Minmatar BURN EDEN	Posted - 2011.03.20 23:01:00 - [52] Originally by: Manks Girl 30mins and 80 outstanding calls.... CCP start working on weekends! coz this is sh*t! blob less learn to play
Vardec Crom Caldari Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.03.20 23:06:00 - [53] Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Vardec Crom The answer to me seems self-evident. People enjoy very large fleet fights, something that should be possible in a sandbox game where player made empires are battling for space. The problem is, CCP doesn't have the technology and software capabilities to handle it. So who is at fault, the players playing a sandbox game on their own terms, or CCP for facilitating game play outside of their technological capability? As far as the people saying, "The NC can only do anything with 1000 people". That very well may be, but this is a sandbox game, there is no wrong way to do something. As far as I'm concerned, it's a classic haters gonna hate situation, given the success of NC and friends. No other game that I have heard of comes close to handling as many single players within one system all shooting one of 2 targets. Simple fact is, if CCP can't handle it, no-one can. People enjoy winning, the only way you can win in this game if you happen to be very bad is to blob your enemy. Unfortunately what you've missed is that there is literally nothing CCP can actually do to "fix" it. Hypothetically if CCP were to halve lag, then the very next large fight NC can and will turn up with 2000+ instead of 1000. There is nothing CCP can ever do to control this. So the only option is to accept that every now and then you will lag yourselves out with your own fleet to comical effect. Whining about what you've done and expecting CCP to come up with some magical fix is hillarious though, so kindly ignore me and carry on. I never claimed there was a "fix" to it, I stated that CCP is facilitating gameplay outside of it's technological capabilities, which is an issue. It could be something as simple as putting a hardcap on the number of players a system can handle, (ungraceful and heavy handed, but it's just an example) or incentivize smaller scale fighting, getting rid of the RF mechanic, etc. but it certainly is not the players fault for playing on their own terms. The only way to effect change is to complain, and as far as I'm concerned, PL should be supporting the NC blobbers in their whine threads, it could turn out good for you guys.
Manks Girl Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.20 23:16:00 - [54] Originally by: Suitonia I hate threads like this. CCP have constantly improved the game server, dedicated an entire team to identifying and reducing lag, and have improved the game a long way from the January -> September 2010 dominion lag-fest. The server is good enough that I've consistently been in 700 in local fights with over 500 people on the field and only had minor 2 second module lag, if this was march 2010 the node would have died. CCP have improved eve a lot in the past 8 months, and posts like this just shove it all in their faces. Maybe the problem is that you're just self-entitled dimwits. We're all paying customers, not just the 3000 of you trying to mass login to the same system at once. I'm sorry that you aren't able to play the game you want to be able too, but raging at CCP when they have probably improved the game on the server side the most they ever have recently just makes you seem like an ungrateful ***got. erm.. i remember a certain "whine" thread when IT dropped on PL titans not too long ago and this sort of thing happened to them. Oh the irony! This thread was created coz simply 900 people in a system and you simply can't do anything. CCP may have actually come a long way, but the game at this time is broken. Supers not logging out or just staying on grid for 18hours+, jumping out yet and not disappearing once they have logged. Oh btw hows holding IT space going for you?
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.20 23:39:00 - [55] Originally by: Manks Girl Oh btw hows holding IT space going for you? Pretty good thanks for asking. No blackscreens, no soul crushing lag, no whine threads, just daily fleet fights and lots of lasers. How's taken drone regions going for you? --- I does like have spaceship vids n stuff
Manks Girl Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.20 23:45:00 - [56] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Manks Girl Oh btw hows holding IT space going for you? Pretty good thanks for asking. No blackscreens, no soul crushing lag, no whine threads, just daily fleet fights and lots of lasers. How's taken drone regions going for you? Didnt realise we were taking drone regions?
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.20 23:48:00 - [57] Originally by: Manks Girl Didnt realise we were taking drone regions? You are right, that's quite a long way off with current progress. But yeah you should try a fight or 2 with 500 in local. It's pretty fun, and the servers can handle it. <3 -a- drake army --- I does like have spaceship vids n stuff
OrDeR Caldari Muppet Factory Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.20 23:57:00 - [58] Originally by: glitterbomb You guys do realize you are the problem.. not the game if u werent massive ***s that need 1000 ppl to do anything. then the game would work fine. ^^ Glitters has t2 guns now. Fear him!
Manks Girl Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.21 00:10:00 - [59] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Manks Girl Didnt realise we were taking drone regions? You are right, that's quite a long way off with current progress. But yeah you should try a fight or 2 with 500 in local. It's pretty fun, and the servers can handle it. <3 -a- drake army Yes i hear the drake army stands up well to hellcats
fpshacker Gallente Zor Industries Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.21 00:46:00 - [60] When will the next NC super cap welp take place? I want to ***** on mails and maybe grab some loot.
Col Callahan Caldari Boogie Monsters	Posted - 2011.03.21 01:36:00 - [61] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Vardec Crom As far as I'm concerned, it's a classic haters gonna hate situation, given the success of NC and friends. With all that success why do they act like whiny babies when something doesn't go their way. Just a couple of days ago there was a situation where DRF titans were blackscreened, and NC were more than happy to shoot them. I don't see a thread from the NC asking CCP to fix the game that day. +1 I have to agree that when the large force's know how many numbers they have and try to brake the system with said numbers to hold the high ground they don't have a leg to stand on when they complain about there own doing. Its no ones fault but your own. Sorry. There was another leader of a major force in this game that used to do the same thing. His name was Sirmolle. Just food for thought. . . . I heard you the last time.
Rex Mundus Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.21 01:54:00 - [62] Edited by: Rex Mundus on 21/03/2011 01:55:32 Originally by: Vardec Crom I never claimed there was a "fix" to it, I stated that CCP is facilitating gameplay outside of it's technological capabilities, which is an issue. It could be something as simple as putting a hardcap on the number of players a system can handle, (ungraceful and heavy handed, but it's just an example) or incentivize smaller scale fighting, getting rid of the RF mechanic, etc. but it certainly is not the players fault for playing on their own terms. The only way to effect change is to complain, and as far as I'm concerned, PL should be supporting the NC blobbers in their whine threads, it could turn out good for you guys. No, you're dumb. This has been a "known issue" since 2003. To put it bluntly, no matter what the limit is, you will always bring enough people to find it. Then for mysterious reasons, known only to you, you have the audacity to spit your dummy out complain and make demands that CCP do something about it. Virtually every other entity in Eve has moved away from massive coalitions since Dominion except yourselves. Which is why we're all laughing at you as you try to figure out what is happening to you and why. edit: your "idea" (if it can even be called that) is stupid. A hardcap just means a rush to fill the system after downtime in order to prevent the enemy from even being allowed to enter the system - hardly the recipe for fun. tl;dr You have to figure out the solution yourselves, but I will give you a clue - it doesn't involve 1000 drakes.
Eric Xallen Caldari Forbidden Labs White Angels.	Posted - 2011.03.21 03:40:00 - [63] HERP DERP What NC haters seem to not realise is that they were outblobbed by DRF. DRF outblobbed NC on titans, supers and subcaps. There is no E-Honor and having your two best warriors decide the outcome of a battle hasn't applied since the times of Achilles. Blob or be blobbed, or go back to hisec, terrible posters. CCP designed the sov warefare system to do this - they just forgot to back it up with good code and gear before they marketed releases like Dominion.
Fitz VonHeise Caldari Eye Bee Em Stellar Defense Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.21 04:23:00 - [64] Originally by: Horizonist if you bring a blob, I don't see why you would expect anything short of massive lag fests. This is one reason I decided to go into worm holes: no lag. It is very hard to get 1,000+ ships into one wh before it would collapse into a swirling Schwarzschild radius. (But that might be pritty cool to look at)
Gravemind GER Caldari Community for Justice Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.03.21 04:27:00 - [65] Derp PL at its best U SIR ARE A SPAI!
Ace Frehley Minmatar Mercenaries of Andosia Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.21 08:57:00 - [66] Originally by: Naomi Wildfire Quote: Learn that equal fights are the funnest aprt or even go in with less The fact Quote: Atlas The lol Quote: we came with 240-250 the gay part Sorry, you wrong clueless alt, go and troll some other place or get ya fact straight, cuz you not ghey enough to be in this forumsection..
Trai Kanossi Gallente Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.03.21 09:04:00 - [67] I think that the
Myb Minmatar V0LTA VOLTA Corp	Posted - 2011.03.21 09:14:00 - [68] Originally by: Eric Xallen HERP DERP What NC haters seem to not realise is that they were outblobbed by DRF. DRF outblobbed NC on titans, supers and subcaps. There is no E-Honor and having your two best warriors decide the outcome of a battle hasn't applied since the times of Achilles. Blob or be blobbed, or go back to hisec, terrible posters. CCP designed the sov warefare system to do this - they just forgot to back it up with good code and gear before they marketed releases like Dominion. Herp Derp indeed.. but NC c o c k jockey, who started blob warfare ? yip thats right NC who encouraged people to get all there alts in 2 the 1 system to crash said nodes in the past NC.. so u can herp derp the **** out of every quote but u my supid friend encouraged this from the begining.. enjoy
AnarchistUK Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.21 10:01:00 - [69] Blaming alliances for blobbing is just being an obvious troll. The game Sov mechanics force blobs to fight on the same grid, in 1 system. If you don't go to attack/defend that 1 grid/system, then the Sov is changed sides. CCP designers from the start should have forseen this, WE should have forseen this, why is this all of a sudden a big surprise? Just because there's a recent fight, I don't get why people come to forums and post about it. Nobody cares. We ALL chose to play this game, we realised the downfall after we learned MMORPG actually meant laggy online play. It is a technical hard limit which cannot be resolved. This means CCP must fix their game, either technically or with a code rewrite. As for those laggy fights, I chose to keep away from them. Blame technology and CCP for this We all are accountable for chosing to go into that system, but the game makes us do just this! Regards, Ani (click on the logo above)
hired goon Caldari Legio Prima Victrix Imperius Legio Victrix	Posted - 2011.03.21 10:03:00 - [70] Hey everyone. Just wanted to drop in and tell you about my idea for fixing lag over in the assembly hall. Have a read and thumbs up if it sounds good to you, maybe with enough votes CCP will look at an alternative. Thanks!
JT Black Amarr WEPRA CORP WILD BOARS	Posted - 2011.03.21 10:52:00 - [71] Originally by: Needa3 Originally by: Manks Girl 30mins and 80 outstanding calls.... CCP start working on weekends! coz this is sh*t! blob less learn to play This

CCP Adida Gallente C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.21 12:18:00 - [72] locked for ranting Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online


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