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randomname4me	Posted - 2011.03.22 15:52:00 - [31] I would like to direct your attention to my sig. For those of you with sigs disabled - Petition\|Successful\|Reimbursement\|Lag Pick 3 Petition\|Successful\|Reimbursement\|Lag Pick 3
sableye principle of motion	Posted - 2011.03.22 15:56:00 - [32] Originally by: marshall26 i know the diffrence between player caused lag and server lag i have 70+ pilots who can confirm on thursday 18th everyone off them pilots in diffrent systems running incursions had lag spikes of 10secs + now your telling me out off all them pilots its all there connections there end and not server what are the odds on that! could well be to be honest level 3 coomunications were emssing up alot last week if someones connection passes over them then maybe. ----------------------------------------- View The North Star! In All Its Glory!!
Tlaltiplac	Posted - 2011.03.22 15:59:00 - [33] Well so far 4 people have confirmed the same problem - 66 to go :)
Vertisce Soritenshi O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.22 16:06:00 - [34] Originally by: randomname4me I would like to direct your attention to my sig. For those of you with sigs disabled - Petition\|Successful\|Reimbursement\|Lag Pick 3 I am actually quite confused as to what the hell that means...is it supposed to be a link that isn't working or something? NO BOOBIES LEFT BEHIND!
Alvach	Posted - 2011.03.22 16:13:00 - [35] there has been lag in incursion. last days like never befor.
Niffy Vanhigher	Posted - 2011.03.22 16:27:00 - [36] i do not do the incursion but i have found that there has been may lag spiky drops to 14 fps from a normal 60 fps. it show mostly when i am worping so i have been look at the fps and thik it is in game
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.03.22 16:28:00 - [37] Originally by: Niffy Vanhigher i do not do the incursion but i have found that there has been may lag spiky drops to 14 fps from a normal 60 fps. it show mostly when i am worping so i have been look at the fps and thik it is in game Something like that is your system. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
afi 1	Posted - 2011.03.22 16:31:00 - [38] i also do incursion and i have to say i agree with marshall 26 thats since the last update it has been very laggy when doing the incursions in high sec
skajit spey	Posted - 2011.03.22 16:35:00 - [39] Since last patch updated lag has increased. I agree this (and other) pilots should be reimbursed.
marshall26	Posted - 2011.03.22 16:40:00 - [40] and the pilots keep on confirming about the lag by tonight u see how many we get to come forward!!! not to bothered about reinbursement it's about making ccp aware of this fault!
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.03.22 17:11:00 - [41] If there is a problem with the code for Incursions that is causing occasional drops in frame rate or in game hesitations lasting for a few seconds, that would call for a bug report. Without a confirmed bug the problem can't be fixed, and petitions for ship loss won't be approved. So while you are not incorrect filing your ship loss petition I would also submit a well documented bug report (that will help track down the problem) so the that petition is not an excercise in futility. A couple of further points: 1: There has often been lag in high sec, usually in less traveled systems that suddenly have a larger population than normal. It does not have to be a huge number of people, simply a noticable increase over what the servers consider the norm (and normally allocate resources to). This describes fairly precisely what appears to be happening in the Incursion systesm. 2: CCP may indeed need to make provisions to provide somewhat more server resources to Incursion sites than they currently do. However, don't expect them to dedicate a server to a single system with 30 people in it as they do for fleet battles involving hundreds. A larger percentage of resources yes, a dedicated server no. I repeat, it is to your advantage to help identify the bug (if one exists). Otherwise your petitions will be so much dust in the solar wind. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Mini McFly	Posted - 2011.03.22 17:26:00 - [42] Comrades. It simply is bad for your mental health to complain about lag. Everyone knows what the root cause of lag is. Everyone knows that CCP simply is not going to invest in the hardware to fix the issues. They need to invest those funds into the next MMO being developed, space ship barbie, or what ever non-pvp related project they are working on. My advise to you is simply log off when the lag becomes horrible. Invest some time playing another MMO which is not plagued by these issues. They are a few good MMO out there to choose from. Remember comrade, you play a MMO to have fun first! Playing through lag is not enjoyable. On April 12th that other MMO is going to hard wipe and go live. The bitter eve veterans will have a new pvp platform to play.
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.03.22 20:24:00 - [43] Edited by: Ranger 1 on 22/03/2011 20:25:14 Originally by: Mini McFly Comrades. It simply is bad for your mental health to complain about lag. Everyone knows what the root cause of lag is. Everyone knows that CCP simply is not going to invest in the hardware to fix the issues. They need to invest those funds into the next MMO being developed, space ship barbie, or what ever non-pvp related project they are working on. My advise to you is simply log off when the lag becomes horrible. Invest some time playing another MMO which is not plagued by these issues. They are a few good MMO out there to choose from. Remember comrade, you play a MMO to have fun first! Playing through lag is not enjoyable. On April 12th that other MMO is going to hard wipe and go live. The bitter eve veterans will have a new pvp platform to play. Don't forget to mention the intermittant, sometimes severe issues that "other MMO" has with lag when attempting to get 30 people in the same match. Tanks for your input. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Brooks Puuntai Minmatar Solar Nexus. -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.03.22 23:59:00 - [44] Under the new reimbursement policy no ships are to be reimbursed under lag conditions. Or do you highsec warriors thing your more deserving? Your sand better then 0.0 pilots in this so called sandbox of Eve? You talk as if all 0.0 battles have a choice as far as "bringing the blob" when it comes to these fights. In the end its primarily CCPs fault for creating mechanics that force blobs as well as the lack of scaling resources as the player base has steadily grown. Your lag in Incursions is due to the same issues. Since you are running it in highsec which has several systems connected on the same node. While there maybe only 10-20 in system there maybe 400-500 on the same node causing the issue. In the end you CHOOSE to do your incursions in highsec which is the heaviest populated area in the game, therefor you take on the risk of lag. Welcome to Lag Online.
DkRdev	Posted - 2011.03.23 04:40:00 - [45] i too have lost a ship due to SERVER lag this is not a player/client/ISP issue server lag is eve problem and responsability VIA CCP reinbursment policy ship losses in this manner should be replaced
Demonrok Angel	Posted - 2011.03.23 05:26:00 - [46] Right. It is long but I am trying to keep it to 1. faults, 2. fault reports, 3. pointing out that I am neither making things up or experiencing networking/internet issues. Okay it was too long for me to read everything people have posted. Null sec players have been reporting lag for a long time. On playing fields packed with so many ship models... it would only make sense if they wrote in when they were not experiencing lag. If you've seen the screenshots of null sec war fleets, it is no mystery that they experience lag. Mystery. We have been doing incursions incursions incursions a lot sometimes. Birds do stuff, bees do stuff, lag does stuff - it is a part of life. This part of our lives entered exactly around the time of the last or second last patch. 2 things changed. 1 = patch, 2 = lag. We do not fly around in null sec 100s of fleets. Only on the carrier mission (incursions) might there be more than 85 ships at one time. The fact is many unconnected people, over what is now an extended period of time, have reported lag issues whereas before it was only occasional. I have experienced it many times now. I don't think I have done more than 1 mothership/large fleet room since the lagpatch but only today have I had the lag, as I have every day since the lagpatch. I am not on some bum internet line. I am on the expensive tarriff of the national phone provider. Lag and disconnects are not unheard of but they are pretty rare on my end unless I have been burning out the router. Facts... Problems I have been experiencing inculde, not being able to lock target when in range accomp by error message "you are not in range" for up to 30 seconds or more. Landing on a gate, I press jump... I press it repeatedly... nothing for few secs... blink... I am now back on warp into the gate with about 10 seconds before I land. Activation and/or deactivation of modules does not respond including the effect of microwarping all of your capacitor away so that your defences have shut down or overheating your weapons until they are left beyond repair hence leaving your offences shut down. Not being able to return your drones to the bay before the fleet has warped off taking you with it. Conclusion: Not being able to target. Not being in control when active on a gate. Not being in control of ship modules. Not being able to interact with your environment. That's a complete cessation of game but we know that everything in the game has been working fine before the day of the lag patch. Note: All of the problems I listed as experiencing... I have experienced them all many times before, but never dozens of times a day for many days. Never enough to file one petition or even to remember complaining to another player. NOTe: And, if you actually read all that and are sitting with the thought, "Yeah CCP are so crap", you can shove it. CCP are making everything in the game not just the lag patch. And that goes also if you think that CCP don't want to find problems and fix them. They are doing that for a living. A problem here is an excuse to get paid not something to avoid. And if you think my forum post wasn't good enough for me just because it didn't captivate you... that too also, you can shove. Nobody reads full pages of internet forum posts unless they are obsessed or entertained. This problem requires the attention of an engineer, not a poet. It's a fault report not a seminar. SUGGESTION: People who run a lot of incursions have a lot of chat windows open. It's the only thing I can think of that they will all do that others wont so if it's just incursion runners it may be like that but when I mentioned the lag to others they seemed to agree they were having it too.
Mini McFly	Posted - 2011.03.23 14:51:00 - [47] Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 22/03/2011 20:25:14 Originally by: Mini McFly Comrades. It simply is bad for your mental health to complain about lag. Everyone knows what the root cause of lag is. Everyone knows that CCP simply is not going to invest in the hardware to fix the issues. They need to invest those funds into the next MMO being developed, space ship barbie, or what ever non-pvp related project they are working on. My advise to you is simply log off when the lag becomes horrible. Invest some time playing another MMO which is not plagued by these issues. They are a few good MMO out there to choose from. Remember comrade, you play a MMO to have fun first! Playing through lag is not enjoyable. On April 12th that other MMO is going to hard wipe and go live. The bitter eve veterans will have a new pvp platform to play. Don't forget to mention the intermittant, sometimes severe issues that "other MMO" has with lag when attempting to get 30 people in the same match. Tanks for your input. Comrades, It is far more painful to grind for the ISK to replace that expense logistic internet space ship. I simple get a new iron coffin without the grind in that other MMO. And they patched today without an issues.
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.03.23 15:44:00 - [48] Edited by: Ranger 1 on 23/03/2011 15:46:25 Originally by: Mini McFly Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 22/03/2011 20:25:14 Originally by: Mini McFly Comrades. It simply is bad for your mental health to complain about lag. Everyone knows what the root cause of lag is. Everyone knows that CCP simply is not going to invest in the hardware to fix the issues. They need to invest those funds into the next MMO being developed, space ship barbie, or what ever non-pvp related project they are working on. My advise to you is simply log off when the lag becomes horrible. Invest some time playing another MMO which is not plagued by these issues. They are a few good MMO out there to choose from. Remember comrade, you play a MMO to have fun first! Playing through lag is not enjoyable. On April 12th that other MMO is going to hard wipe and go live. The bitter eve veterans will have a new pvp platform to play. Don't forget to mention the intermittant, sometimes severe issues that "other MMO" has with lag when attempting to get 30 people in the same match. Tanks for your input. Comrades, It is far more painful to grind for the ISK to replace that expense logistic internet space ship. I simple get a new iron coffin without the grind in that other MMO. And they patched today without an issues. I hear there is even less of a painful grind and virtually no lag in Hello Kitty, so obviously it is the superior game. Apples are apples, oranges are oranges... try to keep it straight. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Phlyk The VonBraun Institute	Posted - 2011.03.23 16:26:00 - [49] I'd like to chime in and say that I have also experienced lag spikes and disconnects in incursions over the last few days. This appears to be a recent change, possibly due to the latest patch?
Serraphin	Posted - 2011.03.24 03:57:00 - [50] At the end of the day , this is a server side issue , my corp is often spread out and people are experiencing bad latency all over the server at the same time. CCP need to pull there fingers out and replace lost ships due to these periods of lag , instead of replying with the same crap. (its ur connection , not the server) <---- lol ccp yeah never your server.
Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.03.24 06:05:00 - [51] quite clearly u aint got a clue what this thread is about 0.0 is usually caused by player lag when a blob fight has 1000+ in local the point we are making is i have all graphics and brackets turned down only 18 in local and i have a stable connection and since the last update something is happened i have never had lag and before update incursions where fine so unless u have something relating to high sec incursions then don't bother commenting because the 2 topics are totally different!!!! The two topics are closer than you might think. Players in null have been experiencing this exact same thing since dominion. We have been experiencing it in 30 man fleets, with no other fleets in local. Its in the fleet code. When we got the fancy new fleet finders, and its adverts...and the FC tools to see where and what ship each member is in....we got lag. Up until now, empire guys usually didn't have a reason to get 30 guys on grid, in fleet doing stuff at the same time. Now you are forming decent gangs and you are experiencing the exact same problem that many players have suffered with for over a year. Eve is a massive multiplayer game that becomes unplayable when more than a small group decides to play together. Its well documented. They broke the damn game and can't fix it. If they had any spine or sense of responsibility they would have rolled back dominion a month after it killed eve and admitted their mistake. Instead they denied the problem for 6 months, then sent a skeleton crew to fix it. In the mean time, they decided to stack even more **** on top of a fundamentally flawed foundation. CCP doesn't give a damn whether or not their game works, as long as they can find people to pay for it.
n00n3r Caldari Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.03.24 06:17:00 - [52] Edited by: n00n3r on 24/03/2011 06:21:50 Are you going to come to the forums with QQ threads every time something goes wrong in your shiny incursion fleets? Do you wonder if that may have something to do with all the people griefing your activities? You are not special. Time to pull up your big girl panties and learn to take the good with the bad. tl;dr lag happens to everyone, suck it up. _____________________________________________ Interested in Incursions? Check out our recruitment thread here: Link

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