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Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2011.03.23 16:34:00 -
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Should I pod people when I beat them in a 1v1?
Sometimes I decide to, sometimes not, I'm wondering if you consider it dishonourable to pod some on an agreed 1v1. The way I see it, it teaches them a lesson to warp it out next time.
Thoughts ?
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rodensteiner
Amarr OMGROFLSTOMP
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Posted - 2011.03.23 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: rodensteiner on 23/03/2011 16:42:52 Edited by: rodensteiner on 23/03/2011 16:42:03 My personal rules of a pre-arranged 1 vs.1 that I always try to uphold (I know some will scoff/disagree)
-Never kill the pod -Never warp off/run away, even if you're able to. It's a duel, somebody's gonna die.
On top of that, if it's a canflip duel in Rens (for example) I try to always duel in a ship/fit that I'd just as well go roam with. I know that's definitely just me, though, as 90% of the "duelers" in Rens are all flying some kind of jacked up 1v1 special. _____________________________________________
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tagen young
Caldari The Night Witch
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Posted - 2011.03.23 16:48:00 -
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I have to say I disagree with the idea of not warping out.
To me holding or escaping a point is a vital skill in pvp.
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rodensteiner
Amarr OMGROFLSTOMP
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Posted - 2011.03.23 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: tagen young
I have to say I disagree with the idea of not warping out.
To me holding or escaping a point is a vital skill in pvp.
I think most will be in agreement with you on that.
I, personally, don't count prearranged canflip duels as proper pvp, though.
But that's just me. _____________________________________________
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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.03.23 17:18:00 -
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If your opponent doesn't fit a point but more ewar or tank, that can be a deciding advantage if you're not warping out when not tackled. |
Mara Abraham
Minmatar T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.03.23 17:43:00 -
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Good day, Dorian:
Personally, if it is an honorable 1v1, I don't pod. But on the same token, when I'm in an honorable 1v1, I don't stick around in my pod (should I lose) to find out if the other party has the same sense of honor. If the other party did get my pod (lag or whatever), I would not consider it dishonorable on their part; but, in the future, I would either not 1v1 them or otherwise be far more careful.
In terms of 1v1, unless my trust factor for the party is extremely high, I do request both parties fleet up and meet at a safe (that then becomes a burnt safe). While that's not perfect as whomever is the boss can invite people to the fight, it does help as a start.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
http://www.factionalwarfare.info |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.03.23 17:45:00 -
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If the pod is still there when you scram it then kill it. Simple enough.
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.03.23 18:06:00 -
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Always fleet with the 1 v 1 opponent and meet them at a safe point.
This mitigates their T3 squad booster alt of choice - and the only way they can warp in a falcon (whatever) is by adding them to fleet.
But no - don't pod.
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.23 18:17:00 -
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Maybe ransom the pod for something reasonable. If you honored the solo fight you should honor the ransom.
If you fleet up make sure your overview shows fleet members
And yes for the reasons stated you have to tackle the guy to get the kill.
A guy once offered a 1v1 frigate fight with me. He asked for a no warp rule. I said no I don't do that. He said fine lets still fight. And we did. Well he had a missile kestrel and mwd. He was obitting me at like 40k. Had I agreed that you can't warp off I guess I would have had to just sit there for ages while his kestrel slowly chewed through my buffer tank.
If you can't hold him then no kill for you. Same as any other pvp. -Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |
Daphne Q
Our Own Pirate Society
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Posted - 2011.03.23 18:23:00 -
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I would say, don't pod. Also, never warp to their safe unless you know that they can be trusted. No one needs to be added to fleet to warp in on you as long as they have the safe location bookmarked. ---
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.03.23 19:01:00 -
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I don't pod in arranged 1v1's. I expect the same typically but I certainly don't stick around to find out. As for 1v1's in general, it's pretty risky no matter where you do it. I've had more violated at safe spots then I have at planet 1 but I do favor a SS when it's someone I don't know, so it's riskier anyways tbh. Typically I won't accept a 1v1 with a stranger unless I have enough backup to crush any possible backup they may have. If I know them to be reasonably honest, I'll go without that backup. I've also deliberately gone for the bait 1v1's as I knew my backup was better than theirs or in some cases, I could solo them and their backup. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |
testtstest
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Posted - 2011.03.23 21:24:00 -
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sometimes i like to agree to a 1v1 then have my fleet warp in and kill him after he takes my can then yes we do pod him but thats what he gets for doing a 1v1 in a mmo but i usualy dont becuase im to busy running my macro
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takedoom
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Posted - 2011.03.24 10:26:00 -
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There is no contest of skill in a 1v1 anyway. Just pod and laugh at them and make sure to say something elitist.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army
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Posted - 2011.03.24 10:37:00 -
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Podding is perfectly fine in 1v1, even when prearranged. Knowing that you can get podded and you have some nice implants in your head, certainly raises the adrenaline. Why deny that adrenaline to your opponent? ;) _______________________ Find out whome to vote for in the CSM. Match your answers with the candidates. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.03.24 10:53:00 -
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Anybody who doesn't fit points in 1v1 deserves to see an their victim warp out.
You can hurf all want about spacehonor, but keeping yourself honortackled because some idiot didn't feel the need to point you is a certain kind of special....
As for the podding, unless you are dueling with your insta-lock T3s/sensor boosted inties, just spam warp as your ship hits low structure to a random planet or something. If you sit idly in your wreck for 10-15 seconds, you deserve to be podded. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
SomeHardLovin
The Boondock Saints
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Posted - 2011.03.24 16:27:00 -
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My experience with 1v1's is that they are NEVER a good idea with people you don't know. The dangers are as follows and you will almost ALWAYS encounter one of them. I also included how to reduce the impact:
1) He's got buddies that will pounce on you the second you take the can. You should open up his corp and set standings with them to Orange.. check local.. see if any others are lurking around. If they are.. don't bother.
2) He may have a neutral alt character nearby ready to Remote Repair his ship during the fight. Watch the fights for a while and see if this happens. If it does, forget about it. You can also try to get them to fight in a safe spot, with no other ships around. This seems like a lot of work to me.
3) MANY 1v1'ers have a tricked out ship with no tackle, all damage and/or a big buffer, knowing it will a 1v1 fight. If you are not set up the same you will lose.
4) 1v1 pilots often have macro's set up to turn on and over heat everything on their ship the second you engage There is no counter to that unless you also have a macro. Certain logitech keyboards for instance will allow you to chain commands and assign them to a single button.
5)Some 1v1 guys have a friend in their fleet in a T3 or command ship giving them HUGE bonuses. I can't think of a good way to counter that one unless you insist on fleeting up. Make sure there is nobody else in your fleet.
Basically.. 1v1's are fail for the guy not running the show. I have fought people I should be able to absolutely murder only to watch my resistance melt and my ship pop even before i've overheated everything. ---
Bring forth the Assault Frigate apocalypse! |
NinjaSpud
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Posted - 2011.03.24 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: SomeHardLovin My experience with 1v1's is that they are NEVER a good idea with people you don't know. The dangers are as follows and you will almost ALWAYS encounter one of them. I also included how to reduce the impact:
1) He's got buddies that will pounce on you the second you take the can. You should open up his corp and set standings with them to Orange.. check local.. see if any others are lurking around. If they are.. don't bother.
2) He may have a neutral alt character nearby ready to Remote Repair his ship during the fight. Watch the fights for a while and see if this happens. If it does, forget about it. You can also try to get them to fight in a safe spot, with no other ships around. This seems like a lot of work to me.
3) MANY 1v1'ers have a tricked out ship with no tackle, all damage and/or a big buffer, knowing it will a 1v1 fight. If you are not set up the same you will lose.
4) 1v1 pilots often have macro's set up to turn on and over heat everything on their ship the second you engage There is no counter to that unless you also have a macro. Certain logitech keyboards for instance will allow you to chain commands and assign them to a single button.
5)Some 1v1 guys have a friend in their fleet in a T3 or command ship giving them HUGE bonuses. I can't think of a good way to counter that one unless you insist on fleeting up. Make sure there is nobody else in your fleet.
Basically.. 1v1's are fail for the guy not running the show. I have fought people I should be able to absolutely murder only to watch my resistance melt and my ship pop even before i've overheated everything.
This is true, 1v1's are pretty much dead in eve.
Point in fact, the other day a guy in Rens was spamming he wanted a 1v1 frig fight at planet 2. I warped there to see what was heppening. I saw a can, being orbited at 20k by a iskur (after a ship scan i learned he was an arty iskur), there was also a legion right next to him, a noctis, and a schimitar. They where there to "keep the fight fare, incase his opponent brought in backup." But then I noticed the 5 concord vessels near by. pretty obviouse what was happening, I warped away, laughing at his attempts to goat me into a fight.
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Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
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Posted - 2011.03.24 16:48:00 -
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I can think of maybe one occasion where i've accepted an arranged 1v1. General rules applied, no warping out, no podding.
Generally I hate the idea though. I like my 1v1s to be non-consensual (on their part) and usually expect them to not be 1v1 for very long...battle reports with me vs 5 or 6 dead ships are much better for stroking the e-peen, I find.
Also, I like having access to my local market hub, if I podded every random neutral I caught when commerce raiding by myself I'd be an outlaw by now.
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rodensteiner
Amarr OMGROFLSTOMP
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Posted - 2011.03.24 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: foksieloy
As for rode's comment, it is not his fault he is so chivalrous, it is Azn's fault.
I lol'ed
I guess I just am that "certain kind of special" _____________________________________________
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Aznwithbeard
Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP
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Posted - 2011.03.24 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: rodensteiner
Originally by: foksieloy
As for rode's comment, it is not his fault he is so chivalrous, it is Azn's fault.
I lol'ed
I guess I just am that "certain kind of special"
In a 1v1 If I am going down I will try to gtfo. If he cant hold me, then he doesn't deserve my loot. If he has no scram/disrupt and tries to 1v1 me with a web ( fecking punishers) I will again try to kill him, warp out if I am losing, and mock him mercilessly for not having a point. Feck your honor point, am actually using a midslot on you.
If I'm in 0.0 and can pod, I will attempt to. If i'm feeling frisky I will attempt to ransom first, if I get the scram on the pod.
Its foksieloys fault, damned the costs. Guns don't kill people. onowait. |
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Apocrit Vespulus
Moderate Inconvenience
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Posted - 2011.03.24 22:22:00 -
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I don't pod people after 1v1's, but I also don't stick around after I lose to see if they'll pod me.
Though I wouldn't do it myself, I wouldn't hold it against someone if they were to pod me.
As for honor-tackling, if the other guy can't hold me then that's his problem. I'd expect my opponent to try getting away from me given the chance.
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.03.25 03:27:00 -
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If it's an agreed to/arranged 1v1, then no, I won't pod.
Any other fight, as often as I can... |
Vardec Crom
Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.03.25 03:57:00 -
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Ehonor.
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Diesel47
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Posted - 2011.03.25 13:47:00 -
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Pod if there is a nice bounty. Otherwise you seem like a loser that gets excited when he sees pods (Because he rarely wins fights).
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DR BiCarbonate
Minmatar Basgerin Pirate
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Posted - 2011.03.27 23:56:00 -
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i pod all the time well i guess being -10 and all would be the reason hehehe
but ya as some are saying, if you stay there long enough to get pointed in your pod, you deserve to get podded.
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Chandaris
Gallente Lethal Devotion
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Posted - 2011.03.29 15:14:00 -
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I always pod if they don't warp out. Lesson learned, warp out
Then again, I never agree to 1v1's.. To me eve is about defeating someone using superior tactics, and winning the territory control and physchological game.. I'm not interested in /duels other than w/ friends to test a fit.
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Fennisair
Minmatar Matari Funds Development
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Posted - 2011.03.29 20:04:00 -
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The way I see it: if you have to warp out, then you lost (and vice versa). But at least you get to keep your ship and they lose cred for not holding you. :P
Arranged 1v1's I won't pod. Any other time it's on. But then I don't do arranged fights any more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If men make war in slavish obedience to rules, they will fail." ~ Ulysses S. Grant |
Xuthi
Minmatar EAT THE POOR
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Posted - 2011.03.29 20:12:00 -
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depends how well you know them I guess.
If it was some random asking for a 1v1 then yea sure.
If it was someone I knew and was on good terms with, then definitely not.
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Shivalla
Gallente Financial Removal THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.03.29 21:15:00 -
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I usually warp scramble the target and ask isk before I pod. Or try to.
One some occasions I just pod without askin.
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Millie Clode
Amarr Insert Cool Name Here
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Posted - 2011.03.29 22:11:00 -
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You take a sec hit for warp scrambling a pod. If i'm going to scramble it, I'm going all the way and making a corpse out of it. ---------- Who, me? |
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