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Arturo Vetronas
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Posted - 2011.03.23 21:21:00 -
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Can we make this skill useful for something? Anything? Beyond level I...
5% reduction in amount of skill points lost in the event of ship destruction per level or something...
The search mechanic for these forums suxors hard... I have up looking to see previous discussion about this so if I duplicated...oh well...
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Asa Tru
Lonetrek Trade and Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.23 21:27:00 -
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Um, you never read the description of the t3 cruisers, huh?
Sategic Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% Reduction in the amount of heat damage absorbed by modules per level.
It means you can overheat stuff for more massive damage, better shielding, etc ... Thermodynamics.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.03.24 09:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Arturo Vetronas
Can we make this skill useful for something? Anything? Beyond level I...
5% reduction in amount of skill points lost in the event of ship destruction per level or something...
You've said nothing about boosting T3s, only about making the skill useful. Since balanced is determined using max skills, your example of reducing SP loss means that unless you've trained the skill to V you would lose more SP than you currently do now. Hooray for mindless timesinks!
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Arturo Vetronas
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Posted - 2011.03.25 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Asa Tru
Um, you never read the description of the t3 cruisers, huh?
Sategic Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% Reduction in the amount of heat damage absorbed by modules per level.
It means you can overheat stuff for more massive damage, better shielding, etc ... Thermodynamics.
good job, you've quoted the bonus associated with a subsystem and the subsystem's skill... :-/
now, as to the actual strategic cruiser skill...
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Arturo Vetronas
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Posted - 2011.03.25 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Arturo Vetronas
Can we make this skill useful for something? Anything? Beyond level I...
5% reduction in amount of skill points lost in the event of ship destruction per level or something...
You've said nothing about boosting T3s, only about making the skill useful. Since balanced is determined using max skills, your example of reducing SP loss means that unless you've trained the skill to V you would lose more SP than you currently do now. Hooray for mindless timesinks!
good, cuz i'm not trying to boost t3s per se, also you complain about mindless timesinks, how about the fact that training racial strategic cruiser skill beyond lvl I currently IS a time/sp sink?
since you lose skillpoints in the subsystem skills if/when your t3 ship is destroyed, a sensible reward for training racial strategic cruiser skill would be a modest reduction in the amount of skillpoints lost in that event...
I'm trying to create some worth in training the racial strategic skill beyond level I, figure it out and get on board...
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.25 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 25/03/2011 01:15:10
Originally by: Arturo Vetronas
good job, you've quoted the bonus associated with a subsystem and the subsystem's skill... :-/
now, as to the actual strategic cruiser skill...
Oook. Poof went your credibility about all things T3 related. 
So let's repeat that before you give us more to laugh at: have you ever read the description of a T3 cruiser?
ôCaldari Strategic Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% Reduction in the amount of heat damage absorbed by modules per level.ö
Please note the bolded part. Soà yeahà The skill is already useful. What did you want again?
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2011.03.25 01:14:00 -
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I would prefer not to lose skills when the ship blows up.
It's already time sink to obtain and then replace.
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Arturo Vetronas
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Posted - 2011.03.25 01:37:00 -
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fine, so not only do we have a subsystem that reduces heat damage to modules per level of subsystem skill, we also have an inherent bonus in each cruiser that does the same thing...
if we want to duplicate things great, a reduction in the skillpoints lost per level of racial strategic cruiser skill would still be pretty useful, eat me
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.25 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Arturo Vetronas
a reduction in the skillpoints lost per level of racial strategic cruiser skill would still be pretty useful
As it happens, being able to overheat more stuff for longer reduces the chance that you'll lose skill points.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Kalia Masaer
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
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Posted - 2011.03.25 04:36:00 -
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The ability to overheat for a whole rack for almost double the amount of time is a huge advantage in PvP, if you do not think that that is useful you are not familiar with PvP. Overheating quite often means the difference between victory and defeat in one on one fights and being able to over head a set of hardeners for 6 minutes compared to 3 minutes is an amazing difference in a fleet fight as it is unlikely the enemy will shoot you that long.
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Misanthra
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Posted - 2011.03.25 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Arturo Vetronas
fine, so not only do we have a subsystem that reduces heat damage to modules per level of subsystem skill, we also have an inherent bonus in each cruiser that does the same thing...
if we want to duplicate things great, a reduction in the skillpoints lost per level of racial strategic cruiser skill would still be pretty useful, eat me
If you are losing t3 to the point where you are going "man, got to train offensive sub 5 again"....you need the full training time to reflect on wtf you are doing wrong to lose so many t3's. If its pvp...gratz, eve's rule of do not fly what you can't afford to lose does not only mean ships,impants and isk. Protip: do what everyone else does with thier command subb'ed t3...sit in safe pos or find a nice hidden safe spot. It will live muuuuuch longer while still giving out bonuses. YOu are there to boost...not km ho.
Want to gte camp in tengu...another free protip: get the 5% rof implant and 5% damage implant. About 300 mil total. add 60 mil for drake. 360 mil loss if popped that doens't have sp lost. And just as effective as t3 damn near and cheap as hell (2 drakes, 2 pods still comes under pirce of 1 tengu crap fit). Fill in your racial BC and damage implant for the weapon the t3 and bc gets boosted per level ofc.
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