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Jitta Allt	Posted - 2011.03.24 03:26:00 - [1] is there any way to ban these people who take pride in their scamming of dumb people? Or are these done within the rules are are just based off of people's stupidity and lazyness?
Bane Necran Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.24 03:30:00 - [2] Nah, it's all allowed. But you can say they are a scammer after every message they place in local. That really bugs them, and if you keep it up long enough they'll quit. In a place like Jita you'd be fighting a deluge, though. Gallente and Minmatar .7 POS placement service.
KurnKuku Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.24 03:52:00 - [3] [Want To Buy] Elite Drone AI 76M ISK
Wolfy2449	Posted - 2011.03.24 04:03:00 - [4] Originally by: Jitta Allt is there any way to ban these people who take pride in their scamming of dumb people? Or are these done within the rules are are just based off of people's stupidity and lazyness? why?stupid ppl deserve their fate
Vincent Athena	Posted - 2011.03.24 04:07:00 - [5] Originally by: KurnKuku [Want To Buy] Elite Drone AI 76M ISK When I first saw that one I looked at it and looked, wondering where the scam was. Almost decided to find out by trial, by pushing the "accept" button. Then noticed the amount was red. Could not believe it took me so long to notice.
KurnKuku Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.24 04:13:00 - [6] Originally by: Vincent Athena When I first saw that one I looked at it and looked, wondering where the scam was. Almost decided to find out by trial, by pushing the "accept" button. Then noticed the amount was red. Could not believe it took me so long to notice. I nearly fell for it first time I saw it. If I had had one in my assets I would of certainly had completed that contract. I am glad I too saw it after a few minutes.
sableye principle of motion	Posted - 2011.03.24 04:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Bane Necran Nah, it's all allowed. But you can say they are a scammer after every message they place in local. That really bugs them, and if you keep it up long enough they'll quit. In a place like Jita you'd be fighting a deluge, though. they just bring on more alts to say your a lier, but occasionally you do seee the real tears even if you warned them. it happnes all tiem in RL world too my friends get scammed all time for RL cach off websites because they too stupid tooo see when a deal is too good and buy of random joes website. ----------------------------------------- View The North Star! In All Its Glory!!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.03.24 04:38:00 - [8] Originally by: Jitta Allt is there any way to ban these people who take pride in their scamming of dumb people? Or are these done within the rules are are just based off of people's stupidity and lazyness? It's within the rules... and why the heck ban them, I say, PRAISE them. I cheer for the EVE scammers, because I hate greedy//careless people much more than a spamming scammer. And the tears of stupid people, they're even more delicious than the tears of people getting suicide-ganked. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Bane Necran Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.24 04:45:00 - [9] My only problem with them is the way they proliferate. It's just not good for anyone if conversations and legitimate business are drowned out by them all. Gallente and Minmatar .7 POS placement service.
Mortania Minmatar Kinetic Cartel Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.03.24 06:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Bane Necran My only problem with them is the way they proliferate. It's just not good for anyone if conversations and legitimate business are drowned out by them all. Don't worry, soon you'll be able to see them face to face on the station, and punch them in it.
Alotta Baggage Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail	Posted - 2011.03.24 06:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Mortania Originally by: Bane Necran My only problem with them is the way they proliferate. It's just not good for anyone if conversations and legitimate business are drowned out by them all. Don't worry, soon you'll be able to see them face to face on the station, and punch them in it. No direct PvP in stations Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
baltec1	Posted - 2011.03.24 07:02:00 - [12] When I sell someone a Caldari Navy Maller or an Amarr Navy Badger I am teaching them valuble lesson in life.
Cyhawk	Posted - 2011.03.24 07:11:00 - [13] Originally by: baltec1 When I sell someone a Caldari Navy Maller or an Amarr Navy Badger I am teaching them valuble lesson in life. Ill take 3 of each please. Eve is a harsh place to live. Don't be greedy. Also, some people make their living being honest. Chirba comes to mind.
Ifly Uwalk Caldari Empire Tax Collection Agency	Posted - 2011.03.24 07:55:00 - [14] Originally by: Jitta Allt is there any way to ban these people who take pride in their scamming of dumb people? Or are these done within the rules are are just based off of people's stupidity and lazyness? So: how much did you lose?
Wolfy2449	Posted - 2011.03.24 08:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Ifly Uwalk Originally by: Jitta Allt is there any way to ban these people who take pride in their scamming of dumb people? Or are these done within the rules are are just based off of people's stupidity and lazyness? So: how much did you lose? And to support another poster Op's tears are so sweet
Bill Loney	Posted - 2011.03.24 08:53:00 - [16] Edited by: Bill Loney on 24/03/2011 08:54:44 Most scams are focused on new people as older players can actually see the scam, newer people do not know what to look for. & judging by nearly all the replies in this post you wonder why eve is becoming stagnant . Nearly all the reviews focused on eve-online actually state that this game is full of scammers and skullduggery which is 100% true, which is why the player base has a pretty high turn over and most of the older players leave or sell, hence why the character bazarr section is very active. Eve-online is a great game, its a shame the player base let it down so much.
Aderata Nonkin Amarr	Posted - 2011.03.24 08:57:00 - [17] Scamming is part of everyday life in EVE. You need to be vigilant with whom you're dealing with. Next time you'll be more careful. Hopefully. -)Peace through supreme firepower(-
Azhpol Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.24 09:00:00 - [18] Originally by: Bill Loney Edited by: Bill Loney on 24/03/2011 08:54:44 Most scams are focused on new people as older players can actually see the scam, newer people do not know what to look for. & judging by nearly all the replies in this post you wonder why eve is becoming stagnant . Nearly all the reviews focused on eve-online actually state that this game is full of scammers and skullduggery which is 100% true, which is why the player base has a pretty high turn over and most of the older players leave or sell, hence why the character bazarr section is very active. Eve-online is a great game, its a shame the player base let it down so much. Because older players never farm alts to sell
Fujiko MaXjolt Caldari ACME HARDWARE	Posted - 2011.03.24 10:01:00 - [19] TBH, the most annoying thing about scammers is having to block them so you can see the legit posts in jita local - that's why i tend to use trading channels, they don't post inthere too much (I guess the people there are generally too clever or something, lol)
Eastman Color	Posted - 2011.03.24 10:04:00 - [20] I think people should be banned for shotting stuff, buying stuff, flying between places and other game mechanics that are meant to be.
Sergeant Spot Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.	Posted - 2011.03.24 13:54:00 - [21] Playing Eve is OUTSTANDING training at spotting scams. I am 100% certain that "on average" (there will always be exceptions), veteran Eve players are much harder to scam in real life than the average person. Play nice while you butcher each other.
Mister Rocknrolla	Posted - 2011.03.24 14:02:00 - [22] We were making fun of the scammers in Amarr a few weeks ago. As part of the fun I created a contract for an "Imperial Navy Bestower - RARE! 199M" and was spamming back and forth with an especially annoying guy. Got bored after 5-10min and moved on. Forgot about the contract. Two days later came back to find it had sold. LOL. It's hard to blame the scammers with players like that.
Lady Go Diveher	Posted - 2011.03.24 18:00:00 - [23] The 'scammers' are the dumb and lazy players, in Jita spam anyways. Since we all know them as the "CNR scam" the "1 Trit scam" the "Elite drone AI scam" etc ... I mean, really.... change it up a bit. You'd get more hits.
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.03.24 18:06:00 - [24] 'Scammers' that rely on posting dumb contracts in local are scrubs. ---
Mirabi Tiane	Posted - 2011.03.24 18:17:00 - [25] Originally by: Bill Loney So EVE is dying? _____________________________ [Sebiestor tattoos and Intaki hair: NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDER.]
Fredfredbug4 Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.24 19:03:00 - [26] The best way to avoid getting scammed is to follow a common proverb. If it is too good to be true, it probably isn't. Alas there are some things that are indeed to good to be true but watch out. Never take from people's cans (especially those that belong to criminals) never keep you ship near a large group of people, and pay attention to prices.
NinjaSpud	Posted - 2011.03.24 19:22:00 - [27] Originally by: Ifly Uwalk Originally by: Jitta Allt is there any way to ban these people who take pride in their scamming of dumb people? Or are these done within the rules are are just based off of people's stupidity and lazyness? So: how much did you lose? Ahhh but the clever detective looks for the obvious. Look at his verbage "people who take pride in their scamming of dumb people". If he got scammed, then is he calling himself a dumb person? No no, if he was the one that got scammed, and angry enough to post for a way to ban the scammer, then he would say something like "The stupid scammer made me (the victim) cry." Now look at his name. "Jitta Allt". Clearly he doesn't want us to know his real name so he's posting w/ forum alt. Conclusion? You Sir, MR. 'Jitta Allt' have scammed someone who then threatened to get you banned for greifing. We've all been fooled, he's the scammer, and you have all just laid out your support....GET HIM!!! O ya and scamming (using game mechanics) is legit.
Zyress	Posted - 2011.03.24 20:27:00 - [28] Edited by: Zyress on 24/03/2011 20:28:02 I'm in a corp that was just robbed by one of its officers. I didn't loose anything personally but the corp lost 2 - 3 billion in isk, ships and blue prints. Our corp is fairly new less than 6 months old, and the officer in question was someone the CEO and myself had flown with in various other alliances and corps thru the past 2 years. We thought we knew him well and he was someone we could trust with access to our corporate hangars. He had good industrial skills and we used him to move stuff a lot and in manufacturing. He justifies what he did by saying he was teaching the CEO a lesson about recruiting new players and giving corp hangar access to too many ppl. Well it wasn't a new guy that robbed us and I don't know how you can be using corporate materials and blue prints without having access to them. This was no scam, it was not clever and his justification was bullsh^&. He's a greedy little thief who saw an opportunity to steal a great deal of wealth and was just unconscientious enough to do it.
W3370Pi4 Lamb Federation Navy	Posted - 2011.03.24 21:03:00 - [29] http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading
Aderata Nonkin Amarr	Posted - 2011.03.24 23:25:00 - [30] Originally by: Zyress Edited by: Zyress on 24/03/2011 20:28:02 I'm in a corp that was just robbed by one of its officers. I didn't loose anything personally but the corp lost 2 - 3 billion in isk, ships and blue prints. Yeah, it's not fun when stuff like this happen. Will teach you lot not to be as gullible in the future. Something similar, but worse, happened in my corporation. Worst drama I've ever experienced in a computer game ensued and the guy is now kicked out. But scams and this kind of behaviour in general is allowed when it really should be frowned upon.

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