Originally by: CCP Yokai

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Originally by: EliteSlave

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I wish i could post that screen cap of Stan after sneaking into that trailer with internet....

But, I have so many questions about the hardware... like specific model numbers, firmware. More so to do with possible integration here at my office as we have a pretty large database and are looking to scale up our hardware as we are approaching saturation of it.

so any **** is good ****

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Ask and I'll try and answer... better yet if you are at Fanfest... I present all that tomorrow.

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Originally by: Psihius

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BEST
GEEK
****
EVAR!

Most of us, geeks, would work for food to get our hands on that hardware, to be able to touch it with some very nasty thoughts ;) :D

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Originally by: CCP Yokai

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Edited by: CCP Yokai on 24/03/2011 17:57:15

Originally by: EliteSlave

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Originally by: CCP Yokai

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Originally by: EliteSlave

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I wish i could post that screen cap of Stan after sneaking into that trailer with internet....

But, I have so many questions about the hardware... like specific model numbers, firmware. More so to do with possible integration here at my office as we have a pretty large database and are looking to scale up our hardware as we are approaching saturation of it.

so any **** is good ****

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Ask and I'll try and answer... better yet if you are at Fanfest... I present all that tomorrow.

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Wow, didnt expect a response like that..

Well I guess the first few questions are we are currently doing the FC/IP (Fibre Chan over IP) and we are kinda limited in the I/O factor of around 30 that we have currently attached to 12 Dell Powervault 3610's ( ISCSI / FC/IP and FC ) and we are already maxing out the hardware and we are trying to get the next bang for out buck with going full FC but since this will be our first foray into the "Enterprise" level we are reading "blah blah blah" and dont really understand what we should be looking for of sorts. Now im not expecting you to give me a visio flowchart of the equipment or how its setup. But if you can say broad terminology that is well acceptable for growth of the next 2-3 years and allows for 1000-1500 ( ideally would like to have hardware that supports 2500-3000 to allow for growth) users concurrently hitting the database at any given time would mucho appreciated.

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First off... nothing over anything if you can do it... FC is the best bet for "Enterprise" like you said because of the session based communications and the potential for synchronous protection to redundant SAN controllers. I am biased... this is my opinion but I avoid iSCSI unless forced buy sharp object.

Next... direct connection or true SAN need to be decided on early. Direct connecting the disks is faster (like nano seconds only) but cheaper because you don't have to buy switches. BUT!!! When you run out of host ports and you need to get another system attached or accessing the LUNs, boy are you gonna miss those switches.

Next... SAS unless you know better. SAS is great! I love this stuff... cheaper than FC-SCSI and much better than SATA... best mid-ground disks. SSD's rock my socks but you will pay massively for them or you will get cheap ones and hate what you did later.

Last... Find the right performance metric. Concurrent users means lots to lots of people. I would suggest looking at your IOPS. A 12 drive tray of SAS usually nets 5-10K IOPS on normal workloads for a DB.

Hope that helps a little. All I can toss at you between beers at Fanfest :)

CCP Yokai

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Originally by: Sith LordXXX

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Edited by: Sith LordXXX on 25/03/2011 05:35:33
Edited by: Sith LordXXX on 25/03/2011 05:30:49
Opteron 6174's would have been a much better upgrade as apose to 8 fake cores in the intel and intel costing twice as much going for $2400, the AMD's have 12 real cores giving far more processing power then a intel chip with only 8 real cores with a marketing gimmic of 8 fake cores.

16 threads don't equal twice the processing power. The performance boost 2 threads give is fake. Like smoke and mirrors you can't get power from something that isn't there. As apose to 12 real physical cores with 12 threads. Your getting real world performance for half the cost. Means you could have used 4 socket boards to get 48 real cores of power for the same price as a dual socket intel. Intel doesn't have quad socket boards on newegg, amd does, for 12 real core cpus. Thats more then 50% the power then a intel system. Intel is a joke. AMD beats intel in every way in the server area its physical fact.

If anybody thinks 16 cores with 16 fake cores can beat even 24 real cores they get a for being derp, and 48 real cores impossible intel can even compete with, if you think so, you get a double... Also price per performance ratio amd wins by 50%. Thats madness. AMD is the real smart choice for real processing power. Wow intresting intel's 8 core cpu's run at 130w and amd's 12 core cpu's run at 115w. Not only does amd have more power, they use less power consumption with more cores.

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