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Wresyor	Posted - 2011.03.28 01:12:00 - [1] Hey, need some clarification on extending aggro timers. So let's say I ninja into some carebear mission, steal some stuff, get shot by the carebear, and he instantly docks. So far so good. I go to his mission, and before the timer ends, I shoot a wreck/container and go on with my life, because aggro has been extended for 15 minutes. Since the carebear did not exited the station during these 15 minutes expansion, and before the timer ends on my top left corner, I return to his mission to extend aggro again. Yet, even thought I still have the timer with his name on top left screen, I get the message that I'll be concorded if I shoot the wreck! 0.o I belive this also happened to me once, when I was about to engage a carebear, after extending agro, and got a concord warning when I tryied to engage him, even though I had still my timer up... at the time I just thought I saw the timer wrong, but now I'm sure it was still on! Can someone please clarify me this EVE "Feature"? Why do I get a concord warning on this situation, if the timer is running on my top left? Do I need to do anything else? Thks!
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.03.28 01:15:00 - [2] The concord warning was a 'fix' to this exploit because CCP couldn't fix it normally. You can go ahead and shoot the wrecks. ---
Jake McCord Minmatar McCord Industries	Posted - 2011.03.28 05:43:00 - [3] Remember, the timer you see only tells you how long HE can shoot at you. So unless your "victim" is flashing red, don't shoot at him. ------------ I spit in the face of GoonFleet I would spit on your honor, but you have none. And May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.
Evolution1979	Posted - 2011.03.28 07:09:00 - [4] If you really want to know all about this tactics i have a suggestion. Make an alt, get aggro from that alt, shoot his wrecks and try it all out. Ofcourse use cheap frigs, just incase........
Gavjack Bunk Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.03.28 08:35:00 - [5] It's not so much a game mechanic as such. It's more a bunch of bugs holding hands. The outcome of shooting a wreck, or whether you're even able to shoot the wreck is based largely on Schrodingers Cat. If they're in dock, Schrodingers Cat might be a tabby. If they've moved to a different system, the cat might be a Siamese. Either way, it's neither flashy nor non-flashy until you observe it. But it always gets a "There is 1 person in this game who might shoot at you, stay docked" warning. That bit, they made sure there was no bugs with that bit. :ccpvisionforthefuture:
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.03.28 11:16:00 - [6] shooting the wreck is nothing, few days ago I DCed while undocking to a fight (hisec, few minutes of player aggro left), I relogged and Aggro counter got stuck :D it kept going from 15 to 9 and resetting back :) other player was orbiting me at 150km for >1 hour while I was eating dinner lol. Im guessing he was going crazy not understanding what was happening. It kept resetting even after i docked up (no cans/wrecks of any kind to extend it). Sadly timer fixed itself after said player left my system :(. Even worse - I logged back into the game few hours later and noticed something strange - i had GLOBAL CRIMINAL FLAG :DDD that was also stuck so i couldnt undock :P Petitions didnt help (clueless GM), DT fixed my magic out of nowhere global flag.
Jhy'dha Angry Outkast	Posted - 2011.03.28 11:27:00 - [7] You only get 1 chance at extending aggro(unless your targets engages you again), so wait until the aggro is almost up before you extend it. As for not being able to engage due to the concord message; after you extend aggro, dock up and undock, its like solidifying the action,set your overview to distinquish your target(since he won't be automatically red) then engage again on contact.
C Gabriel Caldari 1st. Pariah Malefactor corp. The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2011.03.28 11:39:00 - [8] Edited by: C Gabriel on 28/03/2011 11:39:16 Originally by: Gavjack Bunk The outcome of shooting a wreck, or whether you're even able to shoot the wreck is based largely on Schrodingers Cat. If they're in dock, Schrodingers Cat might be a tabby. If they've moved to a different system, the cat might be a Siamese. Either way, it's neither flashy nor non-flashy until you observe it. Yes because CCP based game mechanics on a paradox of quantum mechanics..... learn2physics Besides Schrodinger's cat had sod all to do with what particular breed of cat it was.
Wresyor	Posted - 2011.03.28 12:12:00 - [9] Edited by: Wresyor on 28/03/2011 12:13:29 Well, just glad to see I'm not crazy then, but seems to be one of "those" eve features... Anyway, thks for the input. I've done some tests on couple of alts, and ye, once you get the concord warning, you really get concorded, no matter the timer... (t1 frigs have a use after all!) Also thks for the "docking up" tip after each extension. Docking seems to really "sincronize" the actual agression to the timer, but need more testing here. Note to self: Extend timer, dockup, return to site. Make sure not to wait until the last minute to extend agression because we never know if it's really gonna work :( Edit PS: Oh ye... and someone should definitly shoot that cat once and for all...bullet on the head may do the trick. Still, the next CCP expansion will be dedicated to solving bugs it seems. I hope to see the "15 minute invisible timer" of agression in low sec solved, as well as this timer extensions. I do belive agression needs a proper menu, or proper display, instead of a couple of lines on "top left screen". What you guys think?
War Kitten	Posted - 2011.03.28 12:23:00 - [10] Originally by: C Gabriel Edited by: C Gabriel on 28/03/2011 11:39:16 Originally by: Gavjack Bunk The outcome of shooting a wreck, or whether you're even able to shoot the wreck is based largely on Schrodingers Cat. If they're in dock, Schrodingers Cat might be a tabby. If they've moved to a different system, the cat might be a Siamese. Either way, it's neither flashy nor non-flashy until you observe it. Yes because CCP based game mechanics on a paradox of quantum mechanics..... learn2physics Besides Schrodinger's cat had sod all to do with what particular breed of cat it was. I do believe they call that humor, son. Keep on trying it, you'll develop a taste for it, and eventually be able to distinguish it from other posts.

C Gabriel Caldari 1st. Pariah Malefactor corp. The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2011.03.28 12:29:00 - [11] Originally by: War Kitten Originally by: C Gabriel Edited by: C Gabriel on 28/03/2011 11:39:16 Originally by: Gavjack Bunk The outcome of shooting a wreck, or whether you're even able to shoot the wreck is based largely on Schrodingers Cat. If they're in dock, Schrodingers Cat might be a tabby. If they've moved to a different system, the cat might be a Siamese. Either way, it's neither flashy nor non-flashy until you observe it. Yes because CCP based game mechanics on a paradox of quantum mechanics..... learn2physics Besides Schrodinger's cat had sod all to do with what particular breed of cat it was. I do believe they call that humor, son. Keep on trying it, you'll develop a taste for it, and eventually be able to distinguish it from other posts. Like most of the posts on the forum it makes absolutely no sense, therefore I can't see the humour in it.....
Gavjack Bunk Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.03.28 12:44:00 - [12] Originally by: C Gabriel Like most of the posts on the forum it makes absolutely no sense, therefore I can't see the humour in it..... Everywhere you go... there you are.
Herufaia	Posted - 2011.03.29 09:14:00 - [13] Originally by: C Gabriel Edited by: C Gabriel on 28/03/2011 11:39:16 Originally by: Gavjack Bunk The outcome of shooting a wreck, or whether you're even able to shoot the wreck is based largely on Schrodingers Cat. If they're in dock, Schrodingers Cat might be a tabby. If they've moved to a different system, the cat might be a Siamese. Either way, it's neither flashy nor non-flashy until you observe it. Yes because CCP based game mechanics on a paradox of quantum mechanics..... learn2physics Besides Schrodinger's cat had sod all to do with what particular breed of cat it was. Um, im assuming your still in first year college as the breed of cat is vital to the experiment. Ask your tutor or I suggest you might like to read the quantum mechanics book.
Arden Elenduil Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.03.30 07:12:00 - [14] join our public channel and ask around in there they should be able to help you out better than all the people here


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