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Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2011.03.31 02:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Senn Typhos
The surprise some individuals are expressing confuses me. Surely after defending Prosperity Station alongside QCats pilots and allying with Vanguard, it had become obvious where IRED's loyalties lie.
With anyone willing to rescue them from defeat.
I encourage any Caldari loyalists to align with Wolfsbrigade for this campaign. No doubt Federation loyalists will be lining up to defend their brothers.
You might be interested to learn that while it's true that I-RED and FDU fleets were present at the Prosperity Station defence Wolfsbrigade were present in the State Militia contingent.
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Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2011.03.31 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Senn Typhos
I can't imagine being interested to learn something ANN reported on the day it occurred. I think you're mistaking a comment in support of military action, for approval of the organizations involved.
So just to clarify... you're publically supporting Wolfsbrigade as Caldari loyalists, yet seem to be using the defence of Prosperity Station (that both groups were in the very same defence armada) as a reason to doubt I-RED's loyalties...
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Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2011.03.31 09:22:00 -
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Mr Typhos
In an effort to ensure I understand the responses from Anshar Inc regarding this, I've taken the time to review each of your responses carefully.
Originally by: Senn Typhos
I encourage any Caldari loyalists to align with Wolfsbrigade for this campaign. No doubt Federation loyalists will be lining up to defend their brothers.
This taken from early in the debate would suggest that you believe of the two parties Wolfsbrigade is closer to Caldari loyalists than I-RED.
Originally by: Senn Typhos
Surely after defending Prosperity Station alongside QCats pilots and allying with Vanguard, it had become obvious where IRED's loyalties lie.
This from the same post implies you are calling I-RED's loyalties into question.
Now I'm not suggesting here that you are taking sides yourself, I'm not claiming that based on your comments in this debate that you believe one side should be victorious over the other (though previous exchanges between I-RED and Anshar would hint at a personal preference).
I'm simply questioning the logic of citing the Prosperity Station defence as cause to claim Wolfsbrigade are more loyal to the State than I-RED when both groups were involved on the same side.
I find it curious that those from the Federation militia who took part in the defence are not being labelled Seperatist sympathisers, or rebels for setting blue standings with pilots from the Caldari militia. I find it curious that members of the Caldari militia (including Wolfsbrigade) are not being accused of the same for applying blue standings with their counterparts in the Federation.
I understand that the Prosperity Station defence was a special case in the face of capsuleer piracy, however it is my understanding from the recent QCATS announcement regarding blue standings with I-RED that the same situation applies. Taken from their announcement (the bold emphasis is mine):
Originally by: Alain Colcer
The Ishukone subsidiary recently came in contact with [QCATS] CEO and Directors to inform their intent on engaging outlaws and pirate organizations in their area of operation within the Black Rise Region.
Said operational goals are aligned with [QCATS] rules of engagement and current area of deployment, therefore after a gesture of intent for cooperation; both organizations confirmed a blue status standing to facilitate fleet operations against potential hostile targets. We wish to clarify this does not change [I-RED] political leaning, nor [QCATS] commitment to the war effort against the State Protectorate forces.
There are a number of corporations across New Eden which operate across the border in another nation state. Ishukone is present across Essence, Placid and Sinq Laison. Is the Megacorp going to find itself targetted as a whole? Freedom Extension has stations in The Citadel amongst other regions. Does this mean they have turned their back on the Republic and are now State advocates? No, of course not. To claim the same of I-RED for working along side groups from outside the State is little more than ridiculous.
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