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Max Wilson Caldari Cryptonym Sleepers Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.03.31 14:48:00 - [1] Quote: Thread locked. Please do not discuss the GM actions. If there is an issue you would like to bring to our attention, please file a petition. So if all the jews on this planet wants to discuss your denial of holocaust you would rather have it in 13.000.000 petitions than a couple of forum threads? I hardly see that make any sense. Would you care to explain to the player base you claim to love so much? For those not yet aware, a test member had a 7 day ban of his account for posting this link in local: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust The reason given was this: Quote: Hello there, Pasting selected texts from some of the most horrific events of the past century into an open chat channel, frequently populated with German players, falls squarely under section 2 of the TOS as hateful and ethnically offensive. This petition will now be closed and the account ban will be lifted in 7 days. GM Stardust The EVE Online Customer Support Team The wiki community has given it's answer: http://i.imgur.com/CMV4Q.png
Herp McDerpington Caldari Harassment Inc.	Posted - 2011.03.31 14:59:00 - [2] So CCP when GMs abuse their power and make racially charged clearly incorrect decisions, what are we supposed to do? Petition it again so the same racist GMs can tell us to ** off or get our accounts banned for wasting their time? When the two largest alliances, TEST and Goons, all are clearly telling you that you're being racist and offensive here, your GMs are hitting the banhammer just because they can, we're not allowed to protest at all? The fact that the customer support in this game is so bent against the playerbase and just ignores all their concerns seriously makes me consider wanting to continue playing EVE. Why should I continue paying $45/mo for 3 accounts when a GM can ban me from this just because they feel like it, and nothing will be done? CCP we need some answers from you. This is unacceptable and has to stop. Even Vuk Lau resigned from the CSM over your woeful customer support department. This is BEYOND A JOKE**.
Ivana Twinkle Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.31 14:59:00 - [3] I also deny holocaust. Germany is a nation that almost never did anything wrong.
Metal Dude Gallente Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:03:00 - [4] Why don't you go spew this crap on your own goon forums. No one gives a ** if they ban some of you. **, they should ban all of you tbfh. Hail CCP! The truth will set you free
James Razor Amarr The Executives	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:11:00 - [5] Edited by: James Razor on 31/03/2011 15:11:47 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial Btw.: CCP Games was actually added to this list, lol^^ Oh and: I AM German. I dont deny it happend. I dont feel proud of it. But not even my parents where born than and my grandparents where toddlers at that time. So excuse me, if i dont feel guilt in that case. My respect to everyone who helped save lives, like Schindler and the other heros and my sincer honor to everyone who tryed to protect them. BUT: Germany is by far the only country who has a dark chapter in its history. Just look what others did like the UK, France and even the USA (germany never had slavery before the labour and death camps during the NSDAP regime and after). We have a long democrativ tradition here as well. Things like the Badische Revolution, etc. But what CCP did here is simply hillarious, if it wouldnt be such a sad thing in the background. And talking and linking FACTS should never be a banable offence. Greetings from Good old Germany.
Max Wilson Caldari Cryptonym Sleepers Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:13:00 - [6] Originally by: Metal Dude Why don't you go spew this crap on your own goon forums. No one gives a ** if they ban some of you. **, they should ban all of you tbfh. Hail CCP! If any reference to second world war should give a ban, this would be the one.
Herp McDerpington Caldari Harassment Inc.	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:17:00 - [7] Originally by: James Razor Edited by: James Razor on 31/03/2011 15:11:47 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial Btw.: CCP Games was actually added to this list, lol^^ Oh and: I AM German. I dont deny it happend. I dont feel proud of it. But not even my parents where born than and my grandparents where toddlers at that time. So excuse me, if i dont feel guilt in that case. My respect to everyone who helped save lives, like Schindler and the other heros and my sincer honor to everyone who tryed to protect them. BUT: Germany is by far the only country who has a dark chapter in its history. Just look what others did like the UK, France and even the USA (germany never had slavery before the labour and death camps during the NSDAP regime and after). We have a long democrativ tradition here as well. Things like the Badische Revolution, etc. But what CCP did here is simply hillarious, if it wouldnt be such a sad thing in the background. And talking and linking FACTS should never be a banable offence. Greetings from Good old Germany. Thanks you for this sensible post. This is pretty much the exact same respons an American would give if you mentioned the slave trade or the Vietnam war, or a Japanese person and the atrocities in WWII, or a Brit and the bombing of Dresden. It was unpleasant, but that doesn't mean it's offensive to mention a dark chapter in a country's history. That's ludicrous. Sure, it was a horrible thing, but it's pointless getting offended over it. Linking/pasting facts in local is by no means "hateful and ethnically offensive". Quality post James. Sort it out CCP.
Max Wilson Caldari Cryptonym Sleepers Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:17:00 - [8] Originally by: James Razor Edited by: James Razor on 31/03/2011 15:11:47 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial Btw.: CCP Games was actually added to this list, lol^^ Oh and: I AM German. I dont deny it happend. I dont feel proud of it. But not even my parents where born than and my grandparents where toddlers at that time. So excuse me, if i dont feel guilt in that case. My respect to everyone who helped save lives, like Schindler and the other heros and my sincer honor to everyone who tryed to protect them. BUT: Germany is by far the only country who has a dark chapter in its history. Just look what others did like the UK, France and even the USA (germany never had slavery before the labour and death camps during the NSDAP regime and after). We have a long democrativ tradition here as well. Things like the Badische Revolution, etc. But what CCP did here is simply hillarious, if it wouldnt be such a sad thing in the background. And talking and linking FACTS should never be a banable offence. Greetings from Good old Germany. Yeah.. I think the only ones who took real offence from that post was CCP.. Banning and locking threads is not to protect CCP. It's to help the player base. Most of the playerbase is not offended by facts. Most of the player base would like to be able to discuss history in public channels.
The PitBoss Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:24:00 - [9] Sorry .. MAYBE it's just me ... BUT I Can't see where an Internet Spaceships Game is the Venue to discuss ANY Real Life Events ... Thank-You, The Pitboss Signatures by: Kalen Vox
James Razor Amarr The Executives	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:29:00 - [10] Well, but give me a reason why i shouldn't be allowed to discuss such a topic here. I did meet a lot of interessting people over the course of my Eve carreer and talk with them often about god and the world and all in between. Also i can proudly say that i always was interessted in what people think of us germans and i am also interessted to know if the things i think i know about another country or people are true. I had to laugh once an american asked me, if we even have electricity in germany and if we even have cars and stuff. I told him to find out where Porsche, BMW and Mercedes come from and had to laugh about his OHHHHHHH. It is just natural that people talk about almost everything and one topic leads into another.
Bagehi Caldari Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:31:00 - [11] In before the lock. Also, these threads are amusing. This signature is useless, but it is red.
SmashTech Minmatar Sigillum Militum Xpisti Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:33:00 - [12] Originally by: The PitBoss Sorry .. MAYBE it's just me ... BUT I Can't see where an Internet Spaceships Game is the Venue to discuss ANY Real Life Events ... EVE is real. Didn't you get the memo?
Max Wilson Caldari Cryptonym Sleepers Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:46:00 - [13] Originally by: The PitBoss Sorry .. MAYBE it's just me ... BUT I Can't see where an Internet Spaceships Game is the Venue to discuss ANY Real Life Events ... Well.. If you dont talk about anything but eve, while you play, I feel kinda sorry for you and your corp mates.
Crias Taylor Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:52:00 - [14] Nothing happened, everyone was on vacation.

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.31 16:17:00 - [15] Thread locked. This is not a topic of discussion suitable for the EVE forums. If this TEST member wishes to dispute their ban they are welcome to file a petition to discuss it with the GMs. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us


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