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Caldari citizen36	Posted - 2005.02.05 12:30:00 - [1] hey hey Tryin to decide wat to fit on my temp for lvl 4 missions. Thinkin of a mix of 1400mm's, siege, shield tanking + a cap booster. Got good fiting skillz, sugggestions pls!
Siddy	Posted - 2005.02.05 12:40:00 - [2] take that tempest to station, strip guns, and all stuff take it outside, be shure its inshured Self destrukt Buy a Raven or Apoch Tempest is realy Bad Agent runner or NPCer -------------------------------------------
Caldari citizen36	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:07:00 - [3] Siddy, you are a reknownd master temp flyer, ima stubborn wench. Not gettin anuther bs. How does this sound? 4x Siege 4x 1400mm's 1x XL c5 2x specific hards 1x amp 1x cap booster 6x pdu 2's I suspected id get an answer like melt it and get a raven, and i will prolly get alot more. Serious answers pls.
MInvarn	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:25:00 - [4] You're trying to shield tank a Tempest, that hasn't work in a long time. I'm no expert to level 4 missions, but i'd suggest an armor tank, 6 lows > 5 mediums for tanking. Unless you were to, say, passive tank it, but that doesn't work as well as active tanking.... usually. I'm sure it'll be quite fesible once the ship HP changes are in effect though. If you're trying to keep range w/ 1400mms, use a MWD and hope you don't run into a deadspace mission, afterall, it's not like 1400mms exactly eat cap up.
Lord Anubis	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:32:00 - [5] Edited by: Lord Anubis on 05/02/2005 14:35:04 level 4 in a tempest is easy my set up 5) 1400 1) Heavy milles 2) Siege 1) Large c5-l 2) Hardeners 1) 100 MN booster 1) sensor Booster 3) Gyros 2) Tracking enhancers 1) PDU to make work Ok thats my basic setup i use a lot of tech2 or faction stuff fit plasma and emp heavy and therm torps Ur kill zone is 30 -70k use the millse on frigs and shoot the cruiser Ur keep at distance button is no ur friend As for sid man u may be pvp but the tempest is a god npcer You cant beat Death But you can make the bastard work hard for it wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia
Sally	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:53:00 - [6] Edited by: Sally on 05/02/2005 14:55:04 Heh, for missions... Dont use 1400's, you will kill only 2 or 3 cruisers before they stop hitting. Use 650mm autocannons, they hit 10 to 20 km quite reliable, and also have somewhat better damage. You will also need much less grid with them, allowing far better tank. So setup like that: 4 Siege , 4 650mm 5 x Cap rechargers NPC specific armour tank and 1 or 2 Gyros. With that setup you will easely kill scrambling frigs, and autocannons will allow you to hit cruisers and BS's effectively. P.S. If you only had option to warp at 100 km... then 1400 could be more usefull. Right now they are very limited use in misions. -- Stories: #1 --
Siddy	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:54:00 - [7] Originally by: Caldari citizen36 Siddy, you are a reknownd master temp flyer i am, but i also know that if you need to get your setup from outside, you may not be the "right" stuff to fly tempest Solo in lvl 4 missions if you got someone who the NPC's target first, then i culd sugjest a full long range fire support setup but alone, you will run out of grid using 1400mms or 1200mms and you will run out of ammo using 800mms in short, Get raven for Fast mission doing or Apoch if you dont want fech torps and tank anything... -------------------------------------------
Lord Anubis	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:55:00 - [8] Originally by: Sally Heh, for missions... Dont use 1400's, you will kill only 2 or 3 cruisers before they stop hitting. Use 650mm autocannons, they hit 10 to 20 km quite reliable, and also have somewhat better damage. You will also need much less grid with them, allowing far better tank. So setup like that: 4 Siege , 4 650mm 4 x Cap rechargers NPC specific armour tank and 1 or 2 Gyros. With that setup you will easely kill scrambling frigs, and autocannons will allow you to hit cruisers and BS's effectively. P.S. If you only had option to warp at 100 km... then 1400 could be more usefull. Right now they are very limited use in misions. strange i dont have any trouble hitting npc with my 1400 and with this set up ive soloed all level 4 missions and done most within bonus You cant beat Death But you can make the bastard work hard for it wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia
Sally	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:59:00 - [9] Edited by: Sally on 05/02/2005 15:00:59 With high skill, from 35-40 km ... sure. But i highly doubt you can hit cruisers orbiting you at 10-15 km without 5 tracking comp's, and even with them it would be difficult. Its not what you cant do missions with 1400, but i find its more safe and reliable with 650mm. At least with mobs in Ammar Navy missions... Edit. Btw, even Mega Pulses cant hit cruisers orbiting you at 15k, and 1400 is FAR worse... -- Stories: #1 --
Caldari citizen36	Posted - 2005.02.05 15:05:00 - [10] Edited by: Caldari citizen36 on 05/02/2005 15:07:30 Edited by: Caldari citizen36 on 05/02/2005 15:06:51 Siddy, i take offence sumwhat I've extensively flown every other bs but im just gettin into minmatar bs, just wanted suggestions,, I don't rly need you to tell me if im the 'rite stuff' for solo'ing. The idea of the shield tank with pdu's was to fit more armaments in high slots. I like the 650mm setup, will try it out, thnx sally. EDIT: Also cheers anubis

xVx Scarecrow	Posted - 2005.02.05 15:32:00 - [11] go into ur buddy list and send some ever maisl to ur bestist friends cuz trust me unless ur doin at rang u will not be able to do the missions AND it aint really worth it for the time it takes do good lvl 3 or get ur friends to help
Lord Anubis	Posted - 2005.02.05 15:36:00 - [12] again if i can do a level 4 easy in a tempest any one can You cant beat Death But you can make the bastard work hard for it wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia
Siddy	Posted - 2005.02.05 15:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Caldari citizen36 Edited by: Caldari citizen36 on 05/02/2005 15:07:30 Edited by: Caldari citizen36 on 05/02/2005 15:06:51 Siddy, i take offence sumwhat I've extensively flown every other bs but im just gettin into minmatar bs, just wanted suggestions,, I don't rly need you to tell me if im the 'rite stuff' for solo'ing. The idea of the shield tank with pdu's was to fit more armaments in high slots. I like the 650mm setup, will try it out, thnx sally. EDIT: Also cheers anubis you know your rats, you know your ship, you know your equipment that is available to that ship... then you dont need to bother coming here... -------------------------------------------
Jupitus	Posted - 2005.02.06 01:36:00 - [14] Edited by: Jupitus on 06/02/2005 01:37:56 Originally by: Siddy Originally by: Caldari citizen36 Siddy, you are a reknownd master temp flyer i am, but i also know that if you need to get your setup from outside, you may not be the "right" stuff to fly tempest Solo in lvl 4 missions if you got someone who the NPC's target first, then i culd sugjest a full long range fire support setup but alone, you will run out of grid using 1400mms or 1200mms and you will run out of ammo using 800mms in short, Get raven for Fast mission doing or Apoch if you dont want fech torps and tank anything... Hmm, I did write a reply here but eve deleted it all when clicking submit reply... how nice...
Caldorous	Posted - 2005.02.06 01:42:00 - [15] to previous poster => we need an answer, not a quote ----------------------------- 2005.03.13 01:11:29combatYour 350mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Asteroid (Veldspar), wrecking for 0.0 damage.
Sheraad	Posted - 2005.02.06 02:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Sally Edited by: Sally on 05/02/2005 15:00:59 With high skill, from 35-40 km ... sure. But i highly doubt you can hit cruisers orbiting you at 10-15 km without 5 tracking comp's, and even with them it would be difficult. Its not what you cant do missions with 1400, but i find its more safe and reliable with 650mm. At least with mobs in Ammar Navy missions... Edit. Btw, even Mega Pulses cant hit cruisers orbiting you at 15k, and 1400 is FAR worse... What the hell? I can hit cruisers with multifreq at 10km easily, if we're talking NPCs. Well - easily.... no, not easily, but at 15km it's already a lot better, and we ARE talking about an apoc and plain old level 4 motion prediction + megapulses... nothing extraordinary.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2005.02.06 03:10:00 - [17] Edited by: Imhotep Khem on 06/02/2005 03:11:56 Im quite scared to fit the 650s in an l4. I use em or smaller in pvp, but i am concerned about tanking all that damage in an l4 mission. Tempest is almost the fastest shield recharge around. Its not a bad ship with a shield. why bother shooting cruisers, I can tank em, and lob torps + drones when they become bothersome. I have been testin out this setup with an eye on getting into L4 missions with it. But I think I may have gone overboard on the defence. What u think H 4x1200 4xsiege M 1xXL Shield booster 1xShield boost amplifier 1xEM Hardner 1xThermal Hardner 1xKinetic hardner L 2xCPU 2xTracking mod 1xSignal Booster tracking mods are nice on ranged setups because they cost no CPU and they increase damage by boosting optimal. I'm not sure how this will work as I havent got any corp buddies to help me in the L4 yet. But I know one of our corp members got her first BS which is scorp, and her skills are far below mine, but she is walkin through the l4 missions. I'm feelin kinda slighted...But after all, projectiles are supposed to be BACK right. BTW citizen 36, as you can see to get my fitting is requiring 2xCPUs, so I'm not sure about your substituting 1400s for the 1200s. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
melonboy	Posted - 2005.02.07 11:34:00 - [18] heres what i think .. i think you people are stuck in a vinyl scratch ..... all i hear is raven ...raven .. raven .... A have you people flown minmat bs' B --- if not why are you suggesting anything other than actually admitting you dont know. Im currently building my first anti raven ship ... and in a matter of days i will go round destroying any raven i see.. and depodding them ... WHY i hear you ask ... because im sick of hearing about ravens ... im not so sure i couldnt get one and a half shields down on a raven in my rupture ... but hey. and i would use 650's as the lady above says .. at ten k im getting 140 hp's in my rupture ... so i can vouch for the 650 mm howitzer ... acuracy at 10 to 23 km .. on my rupture ... but it is slow firing on my rupt .. thats for sure. I will clean the world or the arrogant raven pilot. alone if i have to
Omatje	Posted - 2005.02.07 13:00:00 - [19] Edited by: Omatje on 07/02/2005 13:08:17 This is wat i use for NPC hunting: High: 4x dual 650mm / 4x siege Mid: 5x cap rechargers Low: 2x Large armor rep / 3x hardener / cap relay If your rechargers/skills aren't so good you can swap 1 Large repairer for a medium T2. You can also drop 1 recharger and ad 100mn AB on there. In that case you also must swap 1 Large for 1 Medium T2. If you still have problems holding up your cap then drop 3rd hardener and add another cap relay. Note: kill those scrambling frigs first, you may need to warp out if things don't go your way. Why dont we all f1f2f3 eachother?
Dr Derek	Posted - 2005.02.07 13:53:00 - [20] Originally by: Siddy take that tempest to station, strip guns, and all stuff take it outside, be shure its inshured Self destrukt Buy a Raven or Apoch Tempest is realy Bad Agent runner or NPCer hehe I wonder if you get insurance money even when self destrukt.. i usually visit some NPC friends

Vicious Vic	Posted - 2005.02.07 14:07:00 - [21] Quote: i think you people are stuck in a vinyl scratch ..... all i hear is raven ...raven .. raven .... I fly a Raven and even I am starting to get sick of that verse. But a "Rifter" it will take you years to kill that many.
Kashre	Posted - 2005.02.08 00:46:00 - [22] A> Keep enough gear for just about any setup handy in the station. B> before going on the mission, go to eve-i.com and get the nitty gritty on what you're facing. There is no one "best" setup, it all depends on what kind of NPCs you're dealing with. Figure out what setup will work best. For example, angels have all these annoying battleships that MWD up to 5km and sit there hitting yyou with autocannons. You dont want to use 1400s on them. Blod raider battleships tend to sit at about 20-40km though, perfect for 1400s. my prefered setup is 1400 + siege with cap chargers and afterburner in the mids and an armor tank in the low. If you can get away with fewer hardeners (against blood raides say, where you only really need one thermal hardener) then put some gun mods or BCS in their place. the 1400s cover long range fine, the torps can still hit at long range, and they do well at short range where you cant hit cruisers/frigs any longer, and they are currently the best anti-tackle-frig defence. I dont like using short range guns against agent mission spawns if I dont have too because in multi-wave missions the next wave appears where the last ship of the previous wave died... which means right on top of you with potentially multiple BS and 10-15 cruisers and maybe a scramble frig or two. I dont care what kinda tank you have, that can kill you pretty fast. Its much better to kill the last ship of a wave from 60km AND already have yourself aligned to warp the hell out if you cant keep the blob away. +++ It's called "low security space" for a reason.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2005.02.09 02:38:00 - [23] Also, the Tempest is a skill point hog. Train up BS and Large Projecktyl heavily. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.


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