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Altivs Obvisivs
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:05:00 -
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So, y'day I decide I wanna do a 1/10 DED in hisec (serpentis drug... something).
Warp first room, kill the npc required for activating gate.
Warp second room, kill spawn and the npc holding the key.
Warp third room, and lo and behold - there is a guy in the room allready, the container which sometimes drops faction loot is gone and he's speed tanking npc's.
Obviously, ha was there the whole time farming (since who knows when) as w/o key one cannot enter the final room.
So I file a petition for potential exploit, since I do feel camping 'final' rooms should be considered one, only to recieve 'working as intended' reply. It would be an exploit if the guy was afking or macroing the gm says. Well I'm certain that speed tanking npcs for hours (inbetween respawns) requires one's full attention, and as for me having to determine if someone is macroing or afking, well.. what can I say 
Today I log in, warp to same DED, and guess what - same story all over. Different char tho. Didn't bother petitioning.
Working as intended. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
655
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:33:00 -
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Ok. |
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
36
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:18:00 -
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Yes, I'm afraid this happens all over with the static DEDs, I've seen the same character in the same place for 1 week. In fact the only time I've seen them come out of it is because of downtime, and they have to go back in again.
So uh, yeah, working as intended I guess. Stupid but true. The thing is those doing the speedtanking are often completely afk, so you can rush in and ninja the overseer holding the loot :) |
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
952
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Posted - 2012.08.30 13:43:00 -
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And this is why static locations for exploration content is a terrible idea. |
Vrykolakasis
Trinity Operations
Aurora Irae
60
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Posted - 2012.08.30 14:41:00 -
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It really isn't "exploration" is it? |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:12:00 -
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Altivs Obvisivs wrote:So I file a petition for potential exploit, since I do feel camping 'final' rooms should be considered one, only to recieve 'working as intended' reply.
It's not against the rules to be a complete moron wasting yer time. Plenty of folks do it in this game. Ship-up, go back, gank dude. Smile. 
Working as intended. |
Melina Lin
Universal Frog
33
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:01:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:[quote=Altivs Obvisivs] Ship-up, go back, gank dude. Smile.
Actually it's like this: Ship-up, go back, "You may not pass! Yours truly, Acceleration Gate", whine and complain on the forums. |
Altivs Obvisivs
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:25:00 -
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Melina Lin wrote:Actually it's like this: Ship-up, go back, "You may not pass! Yours truly, Acceleration Gate", whine and complain on the forums.
This.
Plus the fact that in hisec he can decide to completely ignore you if you can- flip in the first place.
Dunno, the fact that such behaviour is considered intended gameplay is beyond me. |
Dennis Gregs
Dawn of Fire
25
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:41:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:
It's not against the rules to be a complete moron wasting yer time.
This. |
Beta Stryker
Trinity Operations
Aurora Irae
13
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Posted - 2012.08.30 17:10:00 -
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Vrykolakasis wrote:It really isn't "exploration" is it?
Maybe we're 'exploring' boredom? |
Sir Livingston
Club Deadspace
165
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Posted - 2012.08.30 23:18:00 -
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There are some static DEDs in low-sec. I'm willing to bet those aren't being camped "as often".
i make videos about internet spaceships
click to watch: http://www.youtube.com/JonnyPew
in-game chat channel: Club Deadspace |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
660
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:37:00 -
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Sir Livingston wrote:There are some static DEDs in low-sec. I'm willing to bet those aren't being camped "as often".
Well if they are, you just shoot the other guy.
As it should be.
New fix: move all static 1-2/10s to low sec. Generate pvp and pve for new players in frigates/destroyers. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
856
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:43:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:
New fix: move all static 1-2/10s to low sec. Generate pvp and pve for new players in frigates/destroyers.
+1
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Pipa Porto
846
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:37:00 -
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Altivs Obvisivs wrote:Melina Lin wrote:Actually it's like this: Ship-up, go back, "You may not pass! Yours truly, Acceleration Gate", whine and complain on the forums. This. Plus the fact that in hisec he can decide to completely ignore you if you can- flip in the first place. Dunno, the fact that such behaviour is considered intended gameplay is beyond me.
Couple arty. A thrasher. Who cares if he agresses you for canflipping?
EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
956
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Posted - 2012.08.31 07:33:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:New fix: move all static 1-2/10s to low sec. Generate pvp and pve for new players in frigates/destroyers.
Sadly, it seems making (public) sites frigate only or easy to complete (weak NPCs etc) doesn't help new players at all, it just makes it easier for older players to farm them.
Move the sites to lowsec, and they'll be farmed by ~1337 pvpers~ in pimped out pirate frigs, with high grade implant clone, combat boosters in cargohold and honourable solo ganglink alt in system, who'll gank any silly newbies trying to compete, and fleeing at the slightest whiff of danger  |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.08.31 08:53:00 -
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What am I unaware of? last I knew you have to shoot someone to get any cash. Sat there soaking up damage doesn't get you paid. |
nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2012.08.31 09:47:00 -
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bump him, or create and alt on your account, train for webifier and web him (neut too if you want to). |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
310
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Posted - 2012.08.31 11:22:00 -
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nahjustwarpin wrote:bump him, or create and alt on your account, train for webifier and web him (neut too if you want to).
this. if he's afk, he won't be tanking room aggro when webbed and neuted.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Ra Jackson
PILSGESCHWADER
Monkey Circus
26
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Posted - 2012.08.31 12:31:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:nahjustwarpin wrote:bump him, or create and alt on your account, train for webifier and web him (neut too if you want to). this. if he's afk, he won't be tanking room aggro when webbed and neuted.
It's in HISEC. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
310
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Posted - 2012.08.31 12:44:00 -
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Ra Jackson wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:nahjustwarpin wrote:bump him, or create and alt on your account, train for webifier and web him (neut too if you want to). this. if he's afk, he won't be tanking room aggro when webbed and neuted. It's in HISEC.
...so?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
670
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Posted - 2012.08.31 12:46:00 -
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St Mio wrote:Emperor Salazar wrote:New fix: move all static 1-2/10s to low sec. Generate pvp and pve for new players in frigates/destroyers. Sadly, it seems making (public) sites frigate only or easy to complete (weak NPCs etc) doesn't help new players at all, it just makes it easier for older players to farm them. Move the sites to lowsec, and they'll be farmed by ~1337 pvpers~ in pimped out pirate frigs, with high grade implant clone, combat boosters in cargohold and honourable solo ganglink alt in system, who'll gank any silly newbies trying to compete, and fleeing at the slightest whiff of danger
Thats when you send in the swarm meight. |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
Ushra'Khan
505
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Posted - 2012.09.01 00:03:00 -
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If you see him camping the same plex for hours on end then show up in an arty rupture or something and suicide gank him. He's probably sitting on a bunch of built-up loot. |
Und3rSc0re
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.01 05:12:00 -
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Sweet i get to weigh in on something for once. Alright so i have been running ded 1/10 mostly the sansha ones in amarr highsec for the past couple of days and it is giving me a headache. Not only have i seen people sitting in the last room tanking the rats until the deadspace structure respawns, which from what i read respawn faster than the security guys in 2nd room. But I have seen people running these with characters from 2007 for what seems like hours, i thought L4 missions is the thing to do for older characters. I might not be the fastest at clearing those things with such a low sp character, but i can tell you there has to be other things more profitable than this for older characters...
Most of the time you get modules barely worth anything, the only thing i have gotten that was worth good money is a 14 million isk module and i have only gotten that twice out of what felt like 20 runs. Then you have players that what i assume bookmark the last room and when they see you use the acceleration gate they warp in behind you, then take the structure for themselves while you are tanking stuff. But i don't mind that last one it has only happened about 4 times and i like to think of it as some kind of fee i have to pay to veterans. Also ran into people that steal junk just to see if you will fire on them in their 100 mil + isk ships looking for an easy kill.
That is all i have to say about that. |
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