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Fiori 161
Tear Factory
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Posted - 2011.04.02 22:23:00 -
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Is it illegal to Suicide Gank in a Noob system?
I will write a petition later and ask this via in game channels. But since different GM's give different answers on different days I will also ask here.
Commence.
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Anti Castro Pigeons
Minmatar Coup Coup Coup
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Posted - 2011.04.02 22:29:00 -
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no
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Firkragg
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.02 22:35:00 -
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TBH general rule of thumb is yes. I know it certainly applies to things like can flipping etc and so i really would be suprised if they wouldnt extend the rule to cover suicide ganking. (of course this probabaly only applies if your ganking new chars)
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Larg Kellein
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.04.02 22:35:00 -
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Think only can baiting in newbie systems is frowned on, but your best bet is probably gonna be the petition route. You can have 15 players say yes here, but 1 gm trumps them.
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Lost'In'Space
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Posted - 2011.04.02 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Fiori 161 Is it illegal to Suicide Gank in a Noob system?
I hope you are not considering doing that 
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Velocity Prime
Misfit Toys Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2011.04.03 00:01:00 -
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Edited by: Velocity Prime on 03/04/2011 00:01:16 This is the most innovative idea I've seen in a long time.
Just kidding, it's ret@rded.
<3
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Fiori 161
Tear Factory
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Posted - 2011.04.03 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Fiori 161 on 03/04/2011 00:02:44
Originally by: Lost'In'Space
Originally by: Fiori 161 Is it illegal to Suicide Gank in a Noob system?
I hope you are not considering doing that 
I am planning on doing allot worse in the coming months. But this thread is only about the question, and later I will write a petition.
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Captain Die
S0utherN Comfort
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Posted - 2011.04.03 00:35:00 -
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I would just stay away from noob systems and find a real target.  --- DIE - EVE-O's SADOMASICHIST I WHO HAVE NOTHING! |

TonyCandthejets
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Posted - 2011.04.03 01:41:00 -
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People Gank my velator all the time. They have no shame...
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El Loco Therapist
Angry Bipeds Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2011.04.03 04:19:00 -
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You know, starting systems aren't exactly populated. The highest density of noobs is in the systems with career agents, you should go there for your noob squashing needs.
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A'Brantox Foson
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.03 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: TonyCandthejets People Gank my velator all the time. They have no shame...
heh heh hehaha :)
nighty night all o7
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Triksterism
Spacecataz.
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Posted - 2011.04.03 06:04:00 -
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Back in the day, I used to hang around the 'noob plexes' (which were public warp spots in the overview). I would pop the NPCs and name all cans 'Free Stuff' -- I would spend a lot of my time popping anyone who took the cans.
The result? 2 GM EvE-Mails telling me to cease and desist. So I took a week break and went back ;p *
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Shieko Chan
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Posted - 2011.04.03 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Fiori 161 Is it illegal to Suicide Gank in a Noob system?
not illegal... lol.
It is kind a pathetic.. (considering the situation first of course) noobs don't need that aggravation at least til they've learned a little bit and at least get through the trial. I would have left it alone..unless it was a hulk or battleship mining...lol.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.04.03 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shieko Chan
Originally by: Fiori 161 Is it illegal to Suicide Gank in a Noob system?
not illegal... lol.
It is kind a pathetic.. (considering the situation first of course) noobs don't need that aggravation at least til they've learned a little bit and at least get through the trial. I would have left it alone..unless it was a hulk or battleship mining...lol.
It's not pathetic, it's easy kills 
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.04.03 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Bumblefck
Originally by: Shieko Chan
Originally by: Fiori 161 Is it illegal to Suicide Gank in a Noob system?
not illegal... lol.
It is kind a pathetic.. (considering the situation first of course) noobs don't need that aggravation at least til they've learned a little bit and at least get through the trial. I would have left it alone..unless it was a hulk or battleship mining...lol.
It's not pathetic, it's easy kills 
an easy kill is 1-shooting a non tanked industrial with a tempest.
killing noobs that have less SP than you have at social skills is pathetic. ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Darius III
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Posted - 2011.04.03 11:16:00 -
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Well now why would you want to gank the noobs? They not worth it in ISK, bt maybe tear value. After all the first tears are the most concentrated ones available.
But even if it IS legal, please do not do it. Eve NEEDS constant supply of new players as people leave game, take breaks, get jobs and Girlfriends and wives that take them off the subscriber list. I think it is better for Eve as a whole if you let them develop a bit first. That way when they DO progress as players I can gank them for more isk
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Fiori 161
Tear Factory
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Posted - 2011.04.03 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Darius III Well now why would you want to gank the noobs? They not worth it in ISK, bt maybe tear value. After all the first tears are the most concentrated ones available.
But even if it IS legal, please do not do it. Eve NEEDS constant supply of new players as people leave game, take breaks, get jobs and Girlfriends and wives that take them off the subscriber list. I think it is better for Eve as a whole if you let them develop a bit first. That way when they DO progress as players I can gank them for more isk
* Fiori bows to Darius III
See he is not such a bad guy after all now is he? Sticking up for the little guy until they get a foothold in EVE (and make more ISK) so he can blow them up later
Alternatively, there are also Hulks out there in noob systems, strip mining Veld and thinking that they are safe there. So the question is indeed still a valid one just in case the situation ever comes up. I suspect that it is legal, but it never hurts to ask anyway.
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TonyCandthejets
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Posted - 2011.04.03 13:38:00 -
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I have hardly any skill points and that dose not stop people from coming to noob systems to gank me. I try to go to places like PF-346 to scavenge loot and the people there pop me for no reason. Same thing with KBP.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.04.03 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Fiori 161 Alternatively, there are also Hulks out there in noob systems, strip mining Veld and thinking that they are safe there. So the question is indeed still a valid one just in case the situation ever comes up. I suspect that it is legal, but it never hurts to ask anyway.
those seem to be valid targets. thought you were talking about those noobs that were in noobships or T1 frigates or smth. ---
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Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.04.03 18:25:00 -
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It's not illegal. I'm sure CCP won't send the police to your house. It's stupid though, and you having to ask this idiotic question on the forum goes to show that you seem to lack one grey cell or another in that empty brain of yours.
Very sad with people like you wasting GM's time with questions like this when there are legitimate people having real problems that need to be prioritized. I suggest you quit the game and take up gardening instead.
-)Peace through supreme firepower(- |
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.04.03 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
killing noobs that have less SP than you have at social skills is pathetic.
I've only got 1665 skillpoints in social, Can I shoot them instead?
What better way to introduce them to EVE!  ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |

Fiori 161
Tear Factory
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Posted - 2011.04.03 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Aderata Nonkin It's not illegal. I'm sure CCP won't send the police to your house. It's stupid though, and you having to ask this idiotic question on the forum goes to show that you seem to lack one grey cell or another in that empty brain of yours.
Very sad with people like you wasting GM's time with questions like this when there are legitimate people having real problems that need to be prioritized. I suggest you quit the game and take up gardening instead.
Sounds like someone's forum alt has a substantial distaste for suicide Gankers.
I have no doubt that people like you will make my new career choice a rewarding one.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.04.03 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak an easy kill is 1-shooting a non tanked industrial with a tempest.
killing noobs that have less SP than you have at social skills is pathetic.
Explain why
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.04.03 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Bumblefck
Originally by: Grimpak an easy kill is 1-shooting a non tanked industrial with a tempest.
killing noobs that have less SP than you have at social skills is pathetic.
Explain why
why killing noobs that can't even fly a destroyer well? to pad your kboard with noobship and T1 frigs? ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Doddy
Excidium.
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Posted - 2011.04.03 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Doddy on 03/04/2011 21:28:13 Nothing in eve is "illegal". CCP has said that they don't want anyone greifig new players, specifically in the starter systems, and they can ensure this pretty much any way the want. People have been given warnings for suicide ganking, can-baiting and scamming noobs in starter systems, i don't know if anyone has actually been banned though.
Killing non noobs in starter systems will not be a problem i would think.
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Doddy
Excidium.
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Posted - 2011.04.03 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Bumblefck
Originally by: Grimpak an easy kill is 1-shooting a non tanked industrial with a tempest.
killing noobs that have less SP than you have at social skills is pathetic.
Explain why
Because you could gank them 2 months later when they have something worth stealing.
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Monikerina
Amarr Macross Space Defense Squadron The Conglomeration of Ill Advised Ideas
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Posted - 2011.04.04 08:03:00 -
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I'm all for pvp, but honestly. The game needs players to survive, and while I don't think you can do too much to dent the population, running people away in the first weeks of their gaming is really counterproductive to all.
You can get much better tears by destroying stuff that people have strove hard to gain.
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Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 08:48:00 -
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I would never waste sec suicide ganking a noob for no reason. But if you gank them when they are young, they will learn about the nature of Eve right off the bat. In my opinion, that is better than playing the game for a few months before realizing that you don't actually like it. ______
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.04.04 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Bumblefck
Originally by: Grimpak an easy kill is 1-shooting a non tanked industrial with a tempest.
killing noobs that have less SP than you have at social skills is pathetic.
Explain why
why killing noobs that can't even fly a destroyer well? to pad your kboard with noobship and T1 frigs?
Kills are kills though. Plus, as a side benefit, it will weed out those not strong willed enough to accept the loss and move on, and make EVE less WOW-friendly
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.04.04 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bumblefck Kills are kills though. Plus, as a side benefit, it will weed out those not strong willed enough to accept the loss and move on, and make EVE less WOW-friendly
yeah but wasting Sec status with noobs? ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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