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Keldar Anassi
Caldari Big Bad Wolves
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Posted - 2011.04.05 07:05:00 -
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EVE Report recently sat down(virtually) with The Mittani, Chairman of the incoming CSM6. We asked him about his campaign for the CSM, his reactions to being election , his thoughts on the community and so much more. We hope you enjoy reading it as much as we enjoyed hearing it from him.
you can read the interview here on evereport.com. --- Keldar Anassi
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The Interloper
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Posted - 2011.04.05 09:16:00 -
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Who?
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Holy One
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Posted - 2011.04.05 10:45:00 -
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What the **** is the CSM? 
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ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.05 11:31:00 -
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Fact: Mittani is a (self professed)douche  Fact: retired people pi$$ on everybody/thing
Conclusion: The new CSM is a golden shower?  ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.04.05 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Keldar Anassi EVE Report recently sat down(virtually) with The Mittani, Chairman of the incoming CSM6. We asked him about his campaign for the CSM, his reactions to being election , his thoughts on the community and so much more. We hope you enjoy reading it as much as we enjoyed hearing it from him.
you can read the interview here on evereport.com.
Thanks for that. Glad to hear of The Mittani's first priority. ...
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Mylor Torlone
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Posted - 2011.04.05 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Keldar Anassi EVE Report recently sat down(virtually) with The Mittani, Chairman of the incoming CSM6. We asked him about his campaign for the CSM, his reactions to being election , his thoughts on the community and so much more. We hope you enjoy reading it as much as we enjoyed hearing it from him.
you can read the interview here on evereport.com.
Who cares?
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Dogo Duma
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Posted - 2011.04.05 14:36:00 -
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Funny. CSM5 applies common accountability, one of his brosefs gets butthurt by it, Mittens throws Hilmar's instruction of "calling bull****" (see CSM5's open letter) out of the window already. Oh this is going to be a sad but emberassingly entertaining csm term.
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Marconus Orion
S.E.G.W.A.Y.
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Posted - 2011.04.05 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani EVE Report recently sat down(virtually) with The Mittani, Chairman of the incoming CSM6. We asked him about his campaign for the CSM, his reactions to being election , his thoughts on the community and so much more. We hope you enjoy reading it as much as we enjoyed hearing it from him.
you can read the interview here on evereport.com.
Narcissism at its finest.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.04.05 14:57:00 -
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Oh well good to know I can't be expecting a lot from the CSM6 ...
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Calfis
Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.04.05 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: ivar R'dhak Fact: Mittani is a (self professed)douche  Fact: retired people pi$$ on everybody/thing
He sounds qualified for the position. 
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Mister Rocknrolla
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Posted - 2011.04.05 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Mister Rocknrolla on 05/04/2011 15:36:12 I think the chairman needs to learn the difference between the ôvoting populationö and the ôplayer population.ö Nullsec pilots amount to just over 11% of the player population. I wouldnÆt call that a player mandate, but getting elected definitely showed a voter mandate.
Secondly, regarding the supposed numerical significance of his win: He received 10.9% of the votes cast. CSM5s chairman received 10.4% of the votes cast. A statistically insignificant difference, in my opinion. And if one believes the chatter about the nullsec bloc mobilization, which the chairman obviously does, then his win is even less significant.
Personally, I donÆt know whether the term will be better or worse than the previous term, but it will certainly be different. It IS interesting that he criticizes the naivetT of CSM5, then discusses his grand plan for CSM6. WeÆll see how things change when the unstoppable force meets the immovable object.
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Dr Larry Goldstein
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Posted - 2011.04.05 16:05:00 -
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It's me, I'm the hisec allstar who is mad about The Mittani.
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Void Kraken
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Posted - 2011.04.05 16:15:00 -
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Waiting for the Mittani-Gate. I wonder how many trillion he'll make from his CSM information.
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Dr Larry Goldstein
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Posted - 2011.04.05 16:19:00 -
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Wouldn't overshadow some previous act of impropriety that's certain.
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.05 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla Edited by: Mister Rocknrolla on 05/04/2011 15:36:12 I think the chairman needs to learn the difference between the ôvoting populationö and the ôplayer population.ö Nullsec pilots amount to just over 11% of the player population. I wouldnÆt call that a player mandate, but getting elected definitely showed a voter mandate.
I bet you're one of those people who shamelessly complains about an incumbent but never actually got up to vote for the other guy on election day.
Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla
WeÆll see how things change when the unstoppable force meets the immovable object.
Its already happened and the unstoppable force was indeed unstoppable.
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Mister Rocknrolla
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Posted - 2011.04.05 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla Edited by: Mister Rocknrolla on 05/04/2011 15:36:12 I think the chairman needs to learn the difference between the ôvoting populationö and the ôplayer population.ö Nullsec pilots amount to just over 11% of the player population. I wouldnÆt call that a player mandate, but getting elected definitely showed a voter mandate.
I bet you're one of those people who shamelessly complains about an incumbent but never actually got up to vote for the other guy on election day.
Actually, I've voted in each of the last three CSM elections. Don't misread my statement as any sort of criticism. I was just observing that in the interview, the chairman discusses "players" electing him, where it was actually "voters" who elected him, that's all.
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla
WeÆll see how things change when the unstoppable force meets the immovable object.
Its already happened and the unstoppable force was indeed unstoppable.
Again, another possible misunderstanding. I am in no way knowledgeable about alliance politics. In my (apparently not so obvious statement) I meant to refer to the CSM as the unstoppable force and CCP as the immovable object. What that link you posted is, I don't know.
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knobber Jobbler
Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.04.05 16:46:00 -
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He also did a very interesting interview on the lost in EVE podcast. Its worth a listen.
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.05 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla Actually, I've voted in each of the last three CSM elections. Don't misread my statement as any sort of criticism. I was just observing that in the interview, the chairman discusses "players" electing him, where it was actually "voters" who elected him, that's all.
For all intents and purposes the players who cared enough to vote are the player base. People who choose to disenfranchise themselves have only themselves to blame if they only later do not feel like they are being represented.
Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla Again, another possible misunderstanding. I am in no way knowledgeable about alliance politics. In my (apparently not so obvious statement) I meant to refer to the CSM as the unstoppable force and CCP as the immovable object. What that link you posted is, I don't know.
Sorry, link was a article about how another supposedly immovable object (the biggest single alliance in eve, formerly Band of Brothers) fell to an unstoppable force headed by our dear chairman. But this is the devs we are talking about so it might take more a thousand maelstroms to move em. 
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.04.05 17:22:00 -
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inb4 Goons sucking Mittani's kno-
Never mind, too late.
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Zelda Wei
Caldari New Horizon Trade Exchange
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Posted - 2011.04.05 18:02:00 -
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Obvious Narcissism is obvious.
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.05 18:07:00 -
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If only we had known before now that it would be this much fun to take over the CSM...oh well, better late than never!
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Vertisce Soritenshi
O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.05 18:19:00 -
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Quote: 7.) CSM 5 has largely been declared to be the most successful CSM to date, what will you do to try and continue on with their success? By not being politically or commercially naive. No bridge-burning open letters about business inevitabilities like Incarna; no tantrum resignations.
Again, your question demonstrates the ridiculous assumption that the community of bloggers who supported CSM5 have ælargely declaredÆ anything. A larger player population û the population which seized control of CSM6 û looked at CSM5 with an expression of outright horror.
I like how he calls out a "ridiculous assumption" and then promptly makes one of his very own. I have my qualms with the previous CSM but they also got a lot of good things done. All I can hope for right now is that the current CSM does just as good or better and hopefully "Mittani" will lead them to do that. Unfortunately my hopes aren't too high in that regard but I wish them the best anyway. NO BOOBIES LEFT BEHIND! |

Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.05 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi I have my qualms with the previous CSM but they also got a lot of good things done.
Other than a bunch of hilarious drama and a lot of hot air about some stuff nobody cares about what, exactly, did they accomplish?
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Skexcorp
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Posted - 2011.04.05 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla Actually, I've voted in each of the last three CSM elections. Don't misread my statement as any sort of criticism. I was just observing that in the interview, the chairman discusses "players" electing him, where it was actually "voters" who elected him, that's all.
For all intents and purposes the players who cared enough to vote are the player base. People who choose to disenfranchise themselves have only themselves to blame if they only later do not feel like they are being represented.
Personally I follow George Carlin's philosophy that when you vote you buy into the process and thereby surrender your right to ***** about the outcome. I didn't vote for CSM to maintain my right to complain.
"I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created."
So there.
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.05 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Skunk Gracklaw
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi I have my qualms with the previous CSM but they also got a lot of good things done.
Other than a bunch of hilarious drama and a lot of hot air about some stuff nobody cares about what, exactly, did they accomplish?
For a start they made sure that micro transactions would only be used for vanity items... remember when the idea of plex for remaps came up? Task force on lag after the demonstration of module lag during fleet fights. A pledge that incarna will not slow down 'spaceship' stuff such as docking and changing ships. There's 3 major ones straight off the top of my head.
It pretty rude how dismissive Mittani is of CSM 5's efforts, and I'm looking forward to seeing how he struggles when he realises quite how much hard work it is.
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Calfis
Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.04.05 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dodgy Past not empty quoting.
Dude, are we related? I wanted the up close pose too but I had to go with the distance pose. But I could swear you are a brother from another mother. 
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.04.05 20:46:00 -
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Is there a tl;dr version? I almost got to the first bullet point.
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Keldar Anassi
Caldari Big Bad Wolves
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Posted - 2011.04.06 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Chesty McJubblies Is there a tl;dr version? I almost got to the first bullet point.
Sorry, no TL;DR version... How about this, Mittens talks about his grand plan, offends many "community" members, and has fun doing it! --- Keldar Anassi
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.06 03:05:00 -
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At what point in this interview did the mittani begin throwing poo?
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Alty McExpendable
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Posted - 2011.04.06 03:38:00 -
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Oh god the pubbie rage is so delicious
MOAR
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Dalketh
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Posted - 2011.04.06 05:11:00 -
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Terribly sad, some flippant **** with block backing makes a joke of the whole CSM process, destroying years of work good people have done trying to show the CSM is valid and can do good. No - no 'delicious tears' from me... the CSM is not supposed to be some joke and that is what this makes it. Sad, not tear-worthy. Very sad. Not sure why but the CSM always seemed like people stepping up and being mature and trying to make a difference, not to make a mockery of it. That might be fun for the goon crowd, but really sad for all of eve in the end.
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Dalketh
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Posted - 2011.04.06 05:14:00 -
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Why bother? To give an attention ***** more than his 15 mins of fame? Not gonna.
Originally by: Keldar Anassi EVE Report recently sat down(virtually) with The Mittani, Chairman of the incoming CSM6. We asked him about his campaign for the CSM, his reactions to being election , his thoughts on the community and so much more. We hope you enjoy reading it as much as we enjoyed hearing it from him.
you can read the interview here on evereport.com.
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Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.06 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dodgy Past
Originally by: Skunk Gracklaw
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi I have my qualms with the previous CSM but they also got a lot of good things done.
Other than a bunch of hilarious drama and a lot of hot air about some stuff nobody cares about what, exactly, did they accomplish?
For a start they made sure that micro transactions would only be used for vanity items... remember when the idea of plex for remaps came up? Task force on lag after the demonstration of module lag during fleet fights. A pledge that incarna will not slow down 'spaceship' stuff such as docking and changing ships. There's 3 major ones straight off the top of my head.
It pretty rude how dismissive Mittani is of CSM 5's efforts, and I'm looking forward to seeing how he struggles when he realises quite how much hard work it is.
1. The massive outcry on the forums is what caused CCP to back away from microtransactions...the CSM might have talked about it but it wasn't *because* of them that the decision was made.
2. Are you really trying to say that the "lag taskforce" wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for CSM5? lol
3. CCP says a lot of things. Incarna is going to **** up the game no matter what CCP is committing to now.
So like I said before, CSM5 didn't really *do* anything. They actually did less than nothing when they sat silent when CCP started talking about dumb things like removing jump bridges.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.06 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Skunk Gracklaw
Originally by: Dodgy Past
Originally by: Skunk Gracklaw
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi I have my qualms with the previous CSM but they also got a lot of good things done.
Other than a bunch of hilarious drama and a lot of hot air about some stuff nobody cares about what, exactly, did they accomplish?
For a start they made sure that micro transactions would only be used for vanity items... remember when the idea of plex for remaps came up? Task force on lag after the demonstration of module lag during fleet fights. A pledge that incarna will not slow down 'spaceship' stuff such as docking and changing ships. There's 3 major ones straight off the top of my head.
It pretty rude how dismissive Mittani is of CSM 5's efforts, and I'm looking forward to seeing how he struggles when he realises quite how much hard work it is.
1. The massive outcry on the forums is what caused CCP to back away from microtransactions...the CSM might have talked about it but it wasn't *because* of them that the decision was made.
2. Are you really trying to say that the "lag taskforce" wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for CSM5? lol
3. CCP says a lot of things. Incarna is going to **** up the game no matter what CCP is committing to now.
So like I said before, CSM5 didn't really *do* anything. They actually did less than nothing when they sat silent when CCP started talking about dumb things like removing jump bridges.
Well then by your logic nothing any previous CSM has ever done has made a bit of difference and nothing any future CSM does will make any difference either. So with that said who cares if Mittani is in the CSM or not...nothing he does will matter because it is all CCP. NO BOOBIES LEFT BEHIND! |

Dodgy Past
Amarr Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.06 07:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dodgy Past on 06/04/2011 07:01:26
Originally by: Skunk Gracklaw 2. Are you really trying to say that the "lag taskforce" wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for CSM5? lol
Actually yes I am saying that. There was a meeting where some FRAPS footage was shown to CCP by a CSM member and as a direct result of that they realised how bad lag had become. Just goes to show how badly you fail to understand how the CSM interacts with CCP, one of the advantages is that they can sometimes communicate with people who haven't really been listening to the staff they manage.
I get where Mittani is going with this, denigrate the work of others, claim every future victory as purely his own. He really is turning this into a political competition that has nothing to do with what is good for the players but is instead focussed on what's good for himself. But to do this he needs to divide and concur the CSM which means that the unified front needed to motivate CCP is being hamstrung already since he's so busy saying how multiple members he's supposed to be working with are completely useless. CSM5 was the best one so far, CSM6 looks like it's going to be the worst just because of Mittani's ego.
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Goddess Ishtar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.06 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dodgy Past Edited by: Dodgy Past on 06/04/2011 07:01:26
Originally by: Skunk Gracklaw 2. Are you really trying to say that the "lag taskforce" wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for CSM5? lol
Actually yes I am saying that. There was a meeting where some FRAPS footage was shown to CCP by a CSM member and as a direct result of that they realised how bad lag had become. Just goes to show how badly you fail to understand how the CSM interacts with CCP, one of the advantages is that they can sometimes communicate with people who haven't really been listening to the staff they manage.
I get where Mittani is going with this, denigrate the work of others, claim every future victory as purely his own. He really is turning this into a political competition that has nothing to do with what is good for the players but is instead focussed on what's good for himself. But to do this he needs to divide and concur the CSM which means that the unified front needed to motivate CCP is being hamstrung already since he's so busy saying how multiple members he's supposed to be working with are completely useless. CSM5 was the best one so far, CSM6 looks like it's going to be the worst just because of Mittani's ego.
Counterpoint: You're in PL
Admit it, even if Mittens and CSM6 cured cancer you guys would paint him as a failure. Soz your guy didn't get enough votes.
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Ophelia Ursus
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Posted - 2011.04.06 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Skunk Gracklaw
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi I have my qualms with the previous CSM but they also got a lot of good things done.
Other than a bunch of hilarious drama and a lot of hot air about some stuff nobody cares about what, exactly, did they accomplish?
Accomplishments of the CSMs to date:
CSM 1: uh... skillqueue? CSM 2: lol, CSM CSM 3: lol, CSM CSM 4: lol, CSM + lol, stakeholder CSM 5: lol, CSM... :18 months: ... then creation of team BFF (with the attendant emphasis on fixing all the small niggles that have accumulated in the game) and Gridlock, fixed rockets, removal of learning skills, commitment to keeping MT items vanity-only, UI improvements
CSM 5 is perceived as having been successful because it got a hell of a lot more CSM issues implemented during its term than did any of the preceding CSMs, and CCP explicitly cited the CSM as having played a significant role in getting those changes implemented. Collective tantrums related to half-trollish comments about jump bridges notwithstanding, it was orders of magnitude more effective and good for the playerbase/game as a whole than the preceding CSMs combined. Signature removed. |

Isha Steel
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Posted - 2011.04.06 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Goddess Ishtar
Counterpoint: You're in PL
Admit it, even if Mittens and CSM6 cured cancer you guys would paint him as a failure. Soz your guy didn't get enough votes.
I'm not in PL and Mittens is pretty fail.
I mean did you read any of that rubbish that he posted for TenTonHammer? He's an egotistical moron who believes that the world should revolve around him, just a pity he's duped so many Goons..... not that that's hard apparently >.>
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Lady Isabell
Amarr S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Isha Steel
Originally by: Goddess Ishtar
Counterpoint: You're in PL
Admit it, even if Mittens and CSM6 cured cancer you guys would paint him as a failure. Soz your guy didn't get enough votes.
I'm not in PL and Mittens is pretty fail.
I mean did you read any of that rubbish that he posted for TenTonHammer? He's an egotistical moron who believes that the world should revolve around him, just a pity he's duped so many Goons..... not that that's hard apparently >.>
Arguing on the internet... about INTERNET SPACESHIP politics... Maybe, just maybe, everyone should pause for a minute and think about what WE all are arguing about. This is a game, but unfortunately some take it way too seriously.
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Goddess Ishtar Counterpoint: You're in PL
Admit it, even if Mittens and CSM6 cured cancer you guys would paint him as a failure. Soz your guy didn't get enough votes.
Amasing debate technique you're demonstrating here.
How about countering my arguments with facts rather than attacking who I am.
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Keldar Anassi
Caldari Big Bad Wolves
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Posted - 2011.04.06 14:39:00 -
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Great Discussion guys, any mittens supporters gonna comment on the post, seems like just a lot of tears there at the moment. --- Keldar Anassi
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Bustin Jieber
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Posted - 2011.04.06 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dodgy Past
Originally by: Goddess Ishtar Counterpoint: You're in PL
Admit it, even if Mittens and CSM6 cured cancer you guys would paint him as a failure. Soz your guy didn't get enough votes.
Amasing debate technique you're demonstrating here.
How about countering my arguments with facts rather than attacking who I am.
He wasn't attacking who you are but rather who you are with. He has a point...it's not like PL is capable of being objective when it comes to Goons.
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Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.06 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Well then by your logic nothing any previous CSM has ever done has made a bit of difference and nothing any future CSM does will make any difference either. So with that said who cares if Mittani is in the CSM or not...nothing he does will matter because it is all CCP.
Well duh...did you even read The Mittani's campaign thread?
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