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Salpad Caldari Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2011.04.06 06:27:00 - [1] Hi I'm trying to organize a noob-friendly mining op for Danish players. How many m3 ore should I expect a Hulk to be able to suck per hour? It matters for the purpose of choosing where to do the mining op. (Interested players: ask in the Danish language channel. You get the same share whether you come in atiny Bantam or a pimped Hulk.) -- Salpad
Roelof Kremer	Posted - 2011.04.06 07:14:00 - [2] hi about 1820m3 per exumer per 3 min. so 1820 X 3 X (60/3) = 109200m3/hour If the mining op hase a nice Orca support --> +30%. And the orca is nice for transporting the ore back to base. XD RK
Salpad Caldari Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2011.04.06 07:22:00 - [3] So 100k m3 ore per Hulk per hour, and maybe more? Thanks! -- Salpad
Enigminer	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:53:00 - [4] 90k without drones and Ex5, 110k with maxed drones, 103k with t2 drones and DI4 + Exhumers4
Jaik7	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:37:00 - [5] http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Advanced_mining this is the most complete guide to mining i've ever come across. they cover battleships, hulks, mackinaws, skiffs, and gang bonuses.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:53:00 - [6] Absolute maximum you could ever hope to get from a Hulk in conditions hardly ever possible under normal circumstances is around 180k m^3/hour. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Melkath Bandrom Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:05:00 - [7] Edited by: Melkath Bandrom on 06/04/2011 18:09:03 Originally by: Akita T Absolute maximum you could ever hope to get from a Hulk in conditions hardly ever possible under normal circumstances is around 180k m^3/hour. My hulk rigged with t2 cargo rigs and t2 expanders and Capital Industrial at L4 gives me 89,005 cargo, 40k Corp hanger 50k Ore 179,005 total cap. With t1 strips, no crystals and maxed mining skills, Warfare link Spec at L4 and +3 mining yeild implants, I am filling my orca in appx 51 minutes +- if I properly manage my roid consumption i.e. not popping every roid and have extra roids targeted for continuous non interrupted mining. I'm getting 4257m^3 per cycle on t1 strips. I'm not sure what the math is if I applied t2 crystals but im figuring subtract at least 5 minutes EDIT Important Info!! I use 2 miners and 1 hauler for this. Just to make it clear.
Bohawke Gallente The Kharon Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Akita T Absolute maximum you could ever hope to get from a Hulk in conditions hardly ever possible under normal circumstances is around 180k m^3/hour. Currently, I'm running a mining gang of 1 Ocra + 2 Hulks + 1 Retriever. Some days, I just mine with the Orca and 1 Hulk. The Hulk pilot is damn near perfect, his Hulk is using T2 strips with T2 crystals and also has the "Highwall HX-1" implant (3% yield boost). I basically have finished off everything that could affect his yield for high-sec ore mining. As for the Orca pilot, she is damn near perfect as well, only a few skills left to train to maximize yield/shorten cycle time of members under her fleet. That said, with this setup my Hulk pilot can pull in 5,210.1 m3 per cycle -OR- 130,252.5 m3 per hour (as long as I actively mine and do not slack off). The Orca pilot has reduced cycle times to 140 seconds per cycle, so I get in 25 cycles per hour (again, as long as I'm actively mining and not slacking off). That does not include mining drones as well, I'll have to crunch those numbers the next time I do a 2-ship mining ops. That said, I'd love to see what would be required to get those numbers to 180,000 m3 per hour. I'm not doubting you, I just need to know so I can aim for that (or damn close to it) as well... As a side, when I mine ore with my whole gang, I pull in 12,686.4 m3 per cycle -OR - 317,160 m3 per hour (as a possible best) - HOWEVER, I'd like to point out that for myself, it's tough to keep all 3 miners active 100% of the time without any gaps, not to mention that the Orca can hold 167,000 m3, so I'm usually offloading it at least once during all of this. At best, I have hit 305,000 m3 in 1 hour, and I'm happy with that. - bohawke
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:38:00 - [9] Edited by: Akita T on 06/04/2011 19:44:53 Originally by: Bohawke That said, I'd love to see what would be required to get those numbers to 180,000 m3 per hour. Max skills solo Hulk, Michi+HX-2, 2x T2 mining laser upgrade (but preferably Aoede), T2 crystals -> ~1705 m^3/cycle of 3 minutes times 3 strips equals ~1705 m^3/minute. Perfect boost Rorqual, +15% to yield, -33.75% cycle time -> +73.5849% mined => ~2959 m^3/minute from mining lasers. That's ~177k/hour (I rounded up to ~180k/hour) Add T2 mining drones, 2x T2 drone mining aug -> 5x 81.2 m^3/cycle, assuming you can cut down travel time to minimum, another 400-ish m^3/minute from this. Total of ~3360 m^3/minute => 201,600 m^3/hour. T2 drones, because harvester drones are too ludicrously priced to even consider in an almost absurd scenario. Plus it wouldn't be that much extra. Call that 200k/hour. Subtract travel times both for you and drones, half-cycles due to rock depletion, losses due to difference between ore unit size and max yield, cut down one rig, and you MIGHT just actually make it to almost 180k/hour per Hulk in a good mining op. JUST MAYBE. And only if you're willing to risk expensive gear (aoedes aren't cheap, and I can only imagine what the tank would be worth you have to try to squeeze in with any of those rigs). _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Pricechecker Shiyurida	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 06/04/2011 19:44:53 Originally by: Bohawke That said, I'd love to see what would be required to get those numbers to 180,000 m3 per hour. Max skills solo Hulk, Michi+HX-2, 2x T2 mining laser upgrade (but preferably Aoede), T2 crystals -> ~1705 m^3/cycle of 3 minutes times 3 strips equals ~1705 m^3/minute. Perfect boost Rorqual, +15% to yield, -33.75% cycle time -> +73.5849% mined => ~2959 m^3/minute from mining lasers. That's ~177k/hour (I rounded up to ~180k/hour) Add T2 mining drones, 2x T2 drone mining aug -> 5x 81.2 m^3/cycle, assuming you can cut down travel time to minimum, another 400-ish m^3/minute from this. Total of ~3360 m^3/minute => 201,600 m^3/hour. T2 drones, because harvester drones are too ludicrously priced to even consider in an almost absurd scenario. Plus it wouldn't be that much extra. Call that 200k/hour. Subtract travel times both for you and drones, half-cycles due to rock depletion, losses due to difference between ore unit size and max yield, cut down one rig, and you MIGHT just actually make it to almost 180k/hour per Hulk in a good mining op. JUST MAYBE. And only if you're willing to risk expensive gear (aoedes aren't cheap, and I can only imagine what the tank would be worth you have to try to squeeze in with any of those rigs). The aoede MLUs are a few hundred million each, just FYI. A full set of harvesters should set you back roughly the same cost.

Bohawke Gallente The Kharon Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:35:00 - [11] Wow, thank you Akita, that is a lot of nice information to crunch. Much appreciated that you took the time to detail that. A mini thank you to Pricechecker for the mini-add, hehe. And apologies to Salpad for stomping on your opening post, though I'm sure Akita's info gives you some serious perspective as well...
Salpad Caldari Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:14:00 - [12] Originally by: Bohawke Wow, thank you Akita, that is a lot of nice information to crunch. Much appreciated that you took the time to detail that. A mini thank you to Pricechecker for the mini-add, hehe. And apologies to Salpad for stomping on your opening post, though I'm sure Akita's info gives you some serious perspective as well... It's okay, this thread has been quite useful! -- Salpad
Salpad Caldari Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2011.04.07 02:48:00 - [13] What's the likely number of Hulk-hours it takes to suck dry a gravimetric exploration site? E.g. a "medium" class one, such as one might get lucky to find in high-sec? -- Salpad
S'Way Bitter Vets	Posted - 2011.04.07 06:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 06/04/2011 19:44:53 Originally by: Bohawke That said, I'd love to see what would be required to get those numbers to 180,000 m3 per hour. Max skills solo Hulk, Michi+HX-2, 2x T2 mining laser upgrade (but preferably Aoede), T2 crystals -> ~1705 m^3/cycle of 3 minutes times 3 strips equals ~1705 m^3/minute. Perfect boost Rorqual, +15% to yield, -33.75% cycle time -> +73.5849% mined => ~2959 m^3/minute from mining lasers. That's ~177k/hour (I rounded up to ~180k/hour) Add T2 mining drones, 2x T2 drone mining aug -> 5x 81.2 m^3/cycle, assuming you can cut down travel time to minimum, another 400-ish m^3/minute from this. Total of ~3360 m^3/minute => 201,600 m^3/hour. T2 drones, because harvester drones are too ludicrously priced to even consider in an almost absurd scenario. Plus it wouldn't be that much extra. Call that 200k/hour. Subtract travel times both for you and drones, half-cycles due to rock depletion, losses due to difference between ore unit size and max yield, cut down one rig, and you MIGHT just actually make it to almost 180k/hour per Hulk in a good mining op. JUST MAYBE. And only if you're willing to risk expensive gear (aoedes aren't cheap, and I can only imagine what the tank would be worth you have to try to squeeze in with any of those rigs). Just curious as I don't mine....does that include the extra bonus to cycle time when the rorqual is compressing ore as well ? (granted that has to be mined previously of course).
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:23:00 - [15] Originally by: S'Way Just curious as I don't mine....does that include the extra bonus to cycle time when the rorqual is compressing ore as well ? (granted that has to be mined previously of course). You mean the bonus when in deployed mode (industrial core running) ? Yes, the Rorqual needs to be deployed to get the +10% per level bonus to link efficiency (used to be 5%, it got buffed), otherwise it gets absolutely no additional bonus over any other ship, so an Orca (permanent 3% bonus) would be better than an undeployed Rorqual (no bonus). It uses up fuel to do it, but fuel is relatively cheap, worth ISK-wise even with a single average-ish skills/fit Hulk mining. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Bohawke Gallente The Kharon Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 06/04/2011 19:44:53 Max skills solo Hulk, Michi+HX-2, 2x T2 mining laser upgrade (but preferably Aoede), T2 crystals -> ~1705 m^3/cycle of 3 minutes times 3 strips equals ~1705 m^3/minute. Perfect boost Rorqual, +15% to yield, -33.75% cycle time -> +73.5849% mined => ~2959 m^3/minute from mining lasers. That's ~177k/hour (I rounded up to ~180k/hour) Okay, so here's what I'm aiming for now b/c of what is posted here (please correct me if I'm wrong): * Max Skills Hulk Pilot (all my high-sec ores are done, skilling up low-sec after drone skills below...) * Michi's Excavation Augmentor (+5% Bonus to mining yield of mining lasers) * "Highwall" HX-2 Implant (+5% bonus to mining yield) * Aoede Mining Laser Upgrade x 2 * Mining Drone Operation @ lvl 4 (currently skilling to lvl 5) * Drone Interfacing @ lvl 3 (planning on lvl 5) With this setup, would you say that I have then maxed out all possible options for a Solo Hulk miner in high-sec? Just trying to get a very clear idea of what to aim for (not to mention I'm sure miners younger than me would love the info). As for my Orca pilot, the only thing left for her to complete is Warfare Link Specialist lvl 5 which she is currently skilling up - after that, there is nothing else that she can do to increase yield / reduce cycle time (so I move her onto a Jump Freighter, yay!). - bohawke
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.07 15:18:00 - [17] Originally by: Melkath Bandrom Edited by: Melkath Bandrom on 06/04/2011 18:09:03 Originally by: Akita T Absolute maximum you could ever hope to get from a Hulk in conditions hardly ever possible under normal circumstances is around 180k m^3/hour. My hulk rigged with t2 cargo rigs and t2 expanders and Capital Industrial at L4 gives me 89,005 cargo, 40k Corp hanger 50k Ore 179,005 total cap. With t1 strips, no crystals and maxed mining skills, Warfare link Spec at L4 and +3 mining yeild implants, I am filling my orca in appx 51 minutes +- if I properly manage my roid consumption i.e. not popping every roid and have extra roids targeted for continuous non interrupted mining. I'm getting 4257m^3 per cycle on t1 strips. I'm not sure what the math is if I applied t2 crystals but im figuring subtract at least 5 minutes EDIT Important Info!! I use 2 miners and 1 hauler for this. Just to make it clear. LOL evadently YOU have no clue , a HULK dose not have a corp hanger or an ore hanger The ORCA dose
S'Way Bitter Vets	Posted - 2011.04.10 00:31:00 - [18] Originally by: Akita T You mean the bonus when in deployed mode (industrial core running) ? Yes, the Rorqual needs to be deployed to get the +10% per level bonus to link efficiency (used to be 5%, it got buffed), otherwise it gets absolutely no additional bonus over any other ship, so an Orca (permanent 3% bonus) would be better than an undeployed Rorqual (no bonus). It uses up fuel to do it, but fuel is relatively cheap, worth ISK-wise even with a single average-ish skills/fit Hulk mining. Seeing as we can now post on proper working forums again...(at least for a while) Thankyou Akita for the explanation.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.04.10 01:25:00 - [19] Originally by: S'Way Seeing as we can now post on proper working forums again...(at least for a while) Thankyou Akita for the explanation. Hopefully a longer while Originally by: Bohawke With this setup, would you say that I have then maxed out all possible options for a Solo Hulk miner in high-sec? For most practical intents and purposes, yes. You could add the drone rigs training, but honestly, in highsec, you're almost always better off with some other rigs anyway. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Etildard Therbage	Posted - 2011.04.10 23:33:00 - [20] Originally by: Roelof Kremer hi about 1820m3 per exumer per 3 min. so 1820 X 3 X (60/3) = 109200m3/hour If the mining op hase a nice Orca support --> +30%. And the orca is nice for transporting the ore back to base. XD RK Dude my retriever gets 1819m3 per 3 min cycle. I dont think youre taking into account skill and ship bonuses.

Melkath Bandrom Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.04.11 02:09:00 - [21] Originally by: Valmora Jung LOL evadently YOU have no clue , a HULK dose not have a corp hanger or an ore hanger The ORCA dose Evidently I made a simple typo error and typed Hulk instead of Orca. Evidently I can also spell "Evidently" correctly as well unlike you... Same with "does" If you wish to be critical of someone else's posts, make sure the spelling is correct sir. Spell Checker happens to be included in most modern browsers :)
Joe Forum Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.11 14:13:00 - [22] Originally by: Akita T Max skills solo Hulk, Michi+HX-2, 2x T2 mining laser upgrade (but preferably Aoede) Small question - why the Aoede over the T2 - can't a max skill pilot handle the T2s?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.04.11 17:44:00 - [23] Originally by: Joe Forum Small question - why the Aoede over the T2 - can't a max skill pilot handle the T2s? Depends on rigs (drone rigs murder CPU) and whatever you want to be leftover for the tank. _ CCP LEADERSHIP MENTALITY NEEDS TO CHANGE FAST ! "New junky features sell, old polished content doesn't" ? KILL IT WITH FIRE.
Joe Forum Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.12 08:54:00 - [24] Thanks Akita.


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