Originally by: Mynx La'Rue

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Edited by: Mynx La''Rue on 06/04/2011 07:39:11
Hey guys,

the reason i post it in this forum is simply because i didnt find a better one - and it seems to be fitting because it touches the areas of surely crime and also pvp. The reason i post it at all is that i would be interested in your opinion about the actions of the GM (reasonable or wrong) and maybe even an official statement cause my first ticket was shot down by the GM concerning this, the 2nd is unanswered.

As a "disclaimer" maybe first a general word to the topic i wanted to open. Pirate (or all for this matter) gatecamps are not only competely ok in my eye, but also part of what makes the game great - freedom. That is not the point. The point is GMs influencing inGame events by abusing their power. Please read on.

What happened ?

The well known Amamake / Osoggur gate (spelling?) was camped on the LowSec side by pirate (as usual) which managed to get a nice whooping 99% of the ships flying through and about 90% of all pods - amazing how many ppl still dont know how to avoid getting podded in lowSec. The setups was as usual, a Smartbombing BS to kil pods and light ships warping to the gate from one side, T3s, BCs, Cynabals and other stuff sensor boosting to get ppl warping in from empire.

As i said above, gatecamps are a part of the game and ppl who fly in this area really should know about this by now. PPL still flying in without either asking before jumping, taking the other way around of flying to the gate directly on 0 .. well ... NEARLY deserve to die. But watching in a cloaky 20 ppl dying with pods in under 10 minutes made me decide to help the helpless and annoy the pirates for i also at the point simply had the time to do it (on a sidenote, many ppl tried to battle the pirates especially on that gate to drive them off but having neutral alts on all gates and warping on safespots when the local count goes up but 1.2 made this nearly impossible).

So i went with the alt of a friend and my char on both sides, and when a new player jumnped into system i informed him that the gate was camped by smartbombing pirates.

Some ppl headed the warning, others (amazingly) still jumped in and (not really surprisingly) died - natural selection i guess.

But ofc the pirates missed some nice juicy kills (several freighters and industrtials, also a marauder and other stuff listened, thansk me in local or by mail and went the other way / avoided this gate.

The reaction was as expected, first insults by the pirates and their alts, then they actualy made a ticket for spamming and ... voila ... a GM named Horse appeared and gaged the character warning about the gatecamp on the empire side.

This made me ... wtf ? An immediately triggered talk with the GM lead to nothing substantional and i got no answer about the rules of gagging (tiomes, repetitions, ...).

The "Spamming" was writing the warning in local whenever someone new jumped in which went from once every 20-30s up to once a minute ot two. There was no question about botting for i was at the computer and immediately responding (also talking in local to some folks on empire side) so stripped down a character was gagged (forbidden to write into local) because he was warning other ppl about the gatecamp whenever someone jumped in.

Try to discuss it without flaming please, but i really wonder what you think about a) the action of the GM and b) if the "spamming" policy in this case was really fitting. Eve is so great because oft the freedom it gives players on all sides. GMs acting on behalf of one side or the other that way is not only disturbing but makes me worry quite a bit.

fly dangerous,
Mynx

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