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Sodomiss
Gallente b.b.k Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.04.06 15:14:00 -
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lol i remember before the dominion patch in provi there was no such thing as anomolies (well there were just as common as plex's though) back then we earned our isk chaining the belts, thats where the isk will be at now for the lesser alliances an 0.0 carebear usless ****s bye bye thank **** i can only praise this new space although it sucks for my alliance developing in a ****y sec region, but i look forward to this change.
anyway im curious to see what effect this has. hope i catch more people in the belts :)
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cilayin
Amarr Ore Hogz
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Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 -
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Do you even realize how much it takes having 1500 man fleet fights? WOW wouldn't even be able to handle that with all their billions of dollars in revenue with how it is now.
Just sayin... It's simple. Just take the hydraulic phase shift emulator and attach it to the trans-dimensional photon emitter. |

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.04.06 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 06/04/2011 15:32:44
Originally by: cilayin Do you even realize how much it takes having 1500 man fleet fights? WOW wouldn't even be able to handle that with all their billions of dollars in revenue with how it is now.
Just sayin...
Well my question is: why advertise with it and enable it in-game if you can't deliver?
Originally by: greenlee55 CCP is tring to make this game to were you have to be in a huge 0.0 allience in order to do any type of high end anoms. Sure all the mining carebears arnt affected. but what about the people who can not stand the HUGE LAG fest that eve has to offer the large fleet fights. CCP is attempting to get more people in 0.0 yet there servers can not support the load of the 1500 man fleet fights that they are attempting to brew out of this last. CCP your way ahead of yourself.
Why not just make a number of extra unconquerable 0.0 systems like in NPC space instead where all the non-alliance people can have some fun?
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Bizmarhk
Mafia Redux
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Posted - 2011.04.06 15:40:00 -
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Remember the days when you actually had to rat in 0.0 belts, and use a probing ship to find the good plexes? Yeah, EVE existed before Dominion, stop crying.
MFRX (Mafia Redux) Recruiting PvPers specialized in small gang warfare. |

Dixie Starbuck
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Posted - 2011.04.06 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: cilayin Do you even realize how much it takes having 1500 man fleet fights? WOW wouldn't even be able to handle that with all their billions of dollars in revenue with how it is now.
Just sayin...
Heck, WOW can't even handle a guild with over 600 players, how would they even handle 1500 players in a fight. |

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.04.06 15:45:00 -
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The tears are soooooooooooo sweeeeeet!
Here's the thing, most of you whiners were in 0.0 after apocrypha.
Me, i remember when 0.0 had no sanctums or havens. The day cosmic anoms didnt exist.
You know what? We still made money, we still blew up ships.
Veteran of 0.0 circa 2007-2008 back when sov warfare was pos shooting!
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Ioci
Gallente Morrigna Order
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Posted - 2011.04.06 15:49:00 -
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Back when you young uns was in diapers, I remember 0.0 Sec, we had to get up at 4:00 in the mornin an mine them Ice belts before the sun came up and if we wasn't done fore that school bus came, Pa beat us with a stick!
You know you Vets sound like your grandparents, right?
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Gavjack Bunk
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: ILikeMarkets
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk Edited by: Gavjack Bunk on 06/04/2011 14:23:40
Originally by: greenlee55 CCP is tring to make this game to were you have to be in a huge 0.0 allience in order to do any type of high end anoms.
Is there some special reason why this should be the only MMO where you can solo high end pve?
With WH & Incursions, CCP finally introduced cooperative multiplayer pve. Went better than I expected.
If you want to suckle on the teat, well you will just have to suckle on the juiciest teats you and your friends can get at. You can't have everything. And by you, I mean you. You cannot have everything. You can have what you can win, but no more.
Because we are flying internet spaceships? Because this is already a niche game? Because we would rather EVE do its own thing and allow us to play as we want? Because we don't want World of Warcraft in space?
Go play WoW if you want to raid. :-P
I can't even tell if you're agreeing with me or not and I don't want to sound stupid or perhaps overly knowing in anyway at all but if you want to solo a game's high end pve then guild wars is the game for you because all your team mates can be replaced with broken build AI bots that will literally do all the work for you and you won't ever have to really do much except run around and tell them what it is you want them to kill and yes I know it's a wall of text with no punctuation but I figured that seeing as making no sense was the business of the moment I should not do anything that might detract from that either way suck it up cup cake because the rules are changing as they always do and you can adapt or die as you see fit but coming to me and making no sense is not an option that is going to benefit you in any way at all perhaps you would like to think about that although frankly it occurs to me that you probably already did and got the wrong answer.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Minmatar Whack-A-Mole
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Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci Back when you young uns was in diapers, I remember 0.0 Sec, we had to get up at 4:00 in the mornin an mine them Ice belts before the sun came up and if we wasn't done fore that school bus came, Pa beat us with a stick!
You know you Vets sound like your grandparents, right?
Thats because at the speed the internet and technology changes they effectively ARE!
Why I remember splash damage for MISSILES!!! And when ALL the gunnery skills stacked, small onto mediums onto larges!!
Most people whine about things that changed from a day ago or a week. But some of us have been playing for a long time and seen a LOT of changes and guess what were still here as players and having fun in the game.
0.0 will survive and people will whine and Ill enjoy the tears from this game a lot more now than I used to. Its still just a fun game for me, a time sink for my life and its provided me with...yeah I actually figured it out and Im lowballing here about 8000 hours of game play time over the years. Theres a reason Im still here even though I get sick of it.
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 -
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Because this really needed another thread...
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gustav Knuttsen Like party in democracy - at the end only two will stay.
whether that happens or not depends more on your electoral system than anything else - first past the post-like systems tend to make life very hard for small parties but such system are only used in some countries and far from universal.
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Jita Bloodtear
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Posted - 2011.04.06 16:59:00 -
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So when are level 4 missions being moved to lowsec? Endgame content shouldn't be soloable --------------------------- Full Explanation of the Industry Index System |

Maximus Orillious
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Posted - 2011.04.06 17:04:00 -
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CCP strikes agian... This sucks... I suggest We all nerf CCP by dropping an account... Lets see how they like it... signed, 1 very unhappy customer
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.06 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Bloodtear So when are level 4 missions being moved to lowsec? Endgame content shouldn't be soloable
Now that Goons control the CSM we are working very hard to make this a reality. Soon Level 4 and Level 5 missions will only be available in nullsec, Level 2 & 3 missions will only be available in lowsec and highsec space will be limited to level 1 missions only.
We understand that this change might sound scary to some players but you can trust us. The game will be much better.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.06 17:21:00 -
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Every profession that I have done in EvE has been nerfed at least once since 2008. Mining, Industry, Bounty, Looting, Salvaging.
If this patch makes you quit eve good riddance. I don't want your stuff as it is tainted with weakness.
Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.06 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Bloodtear So when are level 4 missions being moved to lowsec? Endgame content shouldn't be soloable
If you think l4 missioning is endgame content you are truly a noob. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.04.06 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Me Gusta Op has a lame excuse, just because you joined a huge alliance doesn't mean you have to participate in fleet fights.
I only stopped laughing because it hurts too much....
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Teranul
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Posted - 2011.04.06 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Jita Bloodtear So when are level 4 missions being moved to lowsec? Endgame content shouldn't be soloable
If you think l4 missioning is endgame content you are truly a noob.
I lol'd.
Also QFT
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LHA Tarawa
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Posted - 2011.04.06 18:27:00 -
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Seems to me that some long for "the good old days" of 4 years ago when there were half as many players, a big fleet was a few hundred, and a lot of skill points was 40-50 million.
I am sure CCP wants more players. More players = bigger fights. you can cry about blob fest, but it is the nature of more players.
I am sure CCP would love to break up the 2 giant coalitions of 10s of thousands of players, into hundreds of unaffiliated alliances of hundreds or maybe a few thousand players each. But, that flys in the face of human nature when faced with the prisoners' delima. We each do what is best for ourselves, not the whole. We'd all be best served if fleet fights stayed small. I am best served if I bring more than the other guy. So, fleet fights just grow and grow and coalition size just grows and grows since we're all trying to bring just a little more than the other side....
CCP has a real issue that is not going to be easily solved. How do they keep growing the player base while at the same time shrinking the number of ships in a big fight? I have no clue and I'm pretty sure they don't have a clue either.
To be long-term successful as a company CCP has to ensure it is impossible to "win" the game. At the same time, the 2 ubber powerful coalitions that control most of the most valuable resources have in effect already "won".
There need to be resources valuable enough to fight over, while not making those resources so valuable that once obtained you are in aposition of such wealth and power that you have 'won'.
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Jack Gilligan
Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Empire Dweller Good change, nerf the farmers.
No, what they've done is nerf the HONEST players, and handed the farmers, botters, and ISK sellers a gift.
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Gerit Trave
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Posted - 2011.04.06 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Horizonist
Originally by: Ava Starfire
Neither am I.
Maybe show some understanding then? If you are not a native speaker I am sure you can recall at least one instance before you mastered the language, where everything you said/wrote sounded horribly wrong.
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Azureite
Amarr Special Forces Operation Detachment Delta The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.04.06 22:12:00 -
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Get out while you still can!
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aehric
Gallente Stones Inc. Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2011.04.06 22:19:00 -
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Adapt.
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Mattias Kerensky
Minmatar The Flying Tigers United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.06 22:25:00 -
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Folks who've lived in 0.0 from before there was all this Ihub sanctum grinding crap are rolling at the whiners right now.
*old man voice* Why, when I first moved to 0.0, we had to rat in belts all day and we had to share 20 belts between 5 different corps and very rarely did we find a complex, also, nobody even knew what sanctums were! Kids these days!
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Ioci
Gallente Morrigna Order
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Posted - 2011.04.06 22:31:00 -
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Belt ratting was always better. More Meta 4's, more faction spawns.
Buff Belt Chaining? Sure, sounds good. |

Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.06 22:32:00 -
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Who the **** cares what you pussies out in 0.0 are complaining about, I got tats. 
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2011.04.06 22:34:00 -
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Won't more handfuls of friends just opt to join super duper size established corp with access to good space and do their own thing within it instead of joining a smaller sorta goofy-fun alliance without any easy space to fund the friends pvp roams from?
Seems like the change pushes people more into ever larger corps/alliance instead of the stated purpose of giving people a reason to go after those corps/alliances
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2011.04.06 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Long John Silver I agree with the OP.
Nullsec is now all about alliance willy-waving... my blob is bigger than yours etc. It was much better when we played cowboys and indians out there.
Cowboys and Indians? You mean you had guns and the opposition had arrows? :P
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Dr Richard Dawkins
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Posted - 2011.04.06 22:46:00 -
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Crap players will filter out, whomever remains will have higher stakes to fight for. Doesn't solve the problems of alliance blobbage, but nothing will short of castrating moon goo, removing supercaps, and massive sov. mechanic changes will do anything about that.
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Receg
Demon Theory
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Posted - 2011.04.06 22:47:00 -
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Wormhole space best space. -----
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