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Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:21:00 -
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Karim alRashid wrote:What is you "overpowered" criteria? How do you judge that a ship or module or a combination thereof is "overpowered" ?
How do you make the fine line between "powerful"/"useful" and "overpowered"?
What ships/modules you think are currently overpowered and why?
(And, please, let's not discuss supercapitals in this thread).
Projectiles - if a type of guns is not only the best on its own races ships but on any other races ship that doesn't have a damage/ROF bonus for the races own guns, it's pretty obvious.
morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
Signal11th
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:21:00 -
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non judgement wrote:Proteus
remove the trimark rigs and use ccc rigs and you can make it cap stable. Also 4 heavy drones isn't too bad.
pity it can't use 4 heavy drones and a covert cloak. it'd make a nice heavy Arazu.
I usually use an ab or mwd on my proteus. It has a 15% bonus to cap usage for those anyway.
Reminds me of a Deimos. Some would say thats not really a good thing.
Oh wait this is about overpowered things...
anyone talked about cloaking?
Cloaking is over powered. I think they should put a cooldown timer on it or something. If you use it for 10-15 minutes, then it turns off, and have to wait 1-2 minutes before you can turn it on again.
So you can't just sit cloaked all the time.
Cloaking is actually one of the things in EVE that actually works as intended, The problem with cloaking lies with cloaking and local as in cloaking works perfectly but mixed with instant-intel local becomes overpowered.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:23:00 -
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Overpowered
Angel ships (don't pretend its just the dram, although that is the most OP)
Supercarriers (especially in LS)
Underpower
Gallente/hybrids
T1 cruisers
tier 1 BC
Black Ops
Dreadnoughts
EAF |
non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:29:00 -
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Oh I thought people warped to a safe spot and cloaked when you enter system. and they go back to whatever they were doing when you leave.
I was just suggesting it to stop that sort of thing.
The local intel thing wasn't even on my mind...
You want people in null to be crazily pressing dscan every few seconds like the poor saps in wh?
I think it'd just increase the number of people sitting on gates watching if anyone enters.
I think it would increase the usage of black ops, recons and covert ops a little bit at least. |
Karim alRashid
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:31:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:When the only way to counter something is by bringing the same thing in equal or greater numbers.
What if there is a counter, but at a larger cost?
Let's say, for the sake of the example, that I'd be pretty confident to engage a Dramiel with most of not all recons, however that would cost some 2.5x-3x more.
In other words, maybe the cost of the counter is the key, even with different ships and same numbers.
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Karim alRashid
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:40:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:
Projectiles - if a type of guns is not only the best on its own races ships but on any other races ship that doesn't have a damage/ROF bonus for the races own guns, it's pretty obvious.
This is interesting. In this case, I'm more inclined to think of projectiles simply as good or even best, not overpowered.
Now, if on all ships with bonuses to racial turrets the projectiles were better than the said racial turrets, then I'd say they may be a little too good. |
Digital Messiah
N7 Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:49:00 -
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White Tree wrote:Please don't use the term 'FOTM' in EVE Online. Something isn't 'FOTM' if it started being used over 2 years ago and continues to be used today. FOTM doesn't exist in EVE because EVE is an unbalanced and subsequently bad game.
And how long have you had these feelings.
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" |
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:55:00 -
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Sensor Boosters
They are used on just about every ship out there.
They change the dynamics between the ship classes, entirely too much.
They should have a serious stacking penalty for any except those they were designed for.
Change that and see how the rest falls, as people adapt.
Capitals (Balancing and Roles) |
Agent Known
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:43:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Sensor Boosters
They are used on just about every ship out there.
They change the dynamics between the ship classes, entirely too much.
They should have a serious stacking penalty for any except those they were designed for.
Change that and see how the rest falls, as people adapt.
They also double as a distracting for people wh- *ooh, shiny lights OH MY GOD I'M DYING*.
Yeah... |
Signal11th
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:45:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Sensor Boosters
They are used on just about every ship out there.
Change that and see how the rest falls, as people adapt.
You pretty much just answered your own question there, if a subset were using them to great effect then yes but as you say nearly everyone is using them so it balances out.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:49:00 -
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I'll tell you whats overpowered. Stuff. Stuff is overpowered. Nerf Stuff. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:33:00 -
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overpowered - something which take more power-grid then it says it would. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:42:00 -
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White Tree wrote:A single frigate hull which makes assault ships and interceptors redundant and destroys an entire corner of gameplay.
Leave my Griffin alone!
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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