EVE Search - EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 Feedback Thread

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE Information Portal

EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 Feedback Thread

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 .. 13 :: [one page]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 19 post(s)

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1] EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been deployed. This patch includes the new DED complexes, additional character customization options, multiple Little Things from the Team BFF and many other highly anticipated features you can read about on the Incursion website. Please check the patch notes for full details of this release. We hope you enjoy this latest release and we encourage you to provide us with feedback. Please note that an issues thread already exists to report any problems you may experience with this release. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us

Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:57:00 - [2] there are 3 issues threads made by 2 GMs, and you still failed to link to any of them, n1 :D

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:00:00 - [3] Originally by: Rasz Lin there are 3 issues threads made by 2 GMs, and you still failed to link to any of them, n1 :D I think the forums are angry at me.... Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us

Narisa Bithon Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:01:00 - [4] clearing waypoints is no longer available without having to open the map before today's patch it was possible to right click on the list of the systems and clear all waypoints...this option is not there anymore. modules remain active for one cycle even when holding cloak after jumping through a gate
tekant	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:16:00 - [5] Is there a Nerf on hangar size? As soon as I loged in I wanted to remove module from my ship. It doesnt let me to put in ahangar , It says There are too many items. I know there was 999 itma limit in station hangars before but now looks like even we have lower

CCP Punkturis	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:20:00 - [6] Originally by: Narisa Bithon clearing waypoints is no longer available without having to open the map before today's patch it was possible to right click on the list of the systems and clear all waypoints...this option is not there anymore. Are you sure? It's still there when I try to do this.. (actually I first didn't see it and panicked but then I realized I was right clicking on the station I just undocked from, not in space )

Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Narisa Bithon \. modules remain active for one cycle even when holding cloak after jumping through a gate Server hadn't even been up 5 minutes and half my alliance chat mentioned this. Also, I thought we were supposed to get one more chance to resculpt our characters, not just play hairdresser in station.
Wiccan999 Minmatar Starwinders Mortal Destruction	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:35:00 - [8] On every jump the autopilot just rests and turns every waypoint off <----You would come to me walking, but you WILL crawl back
Narisa Bithon Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:41:00 - [9] Originally by: CCP Punkturis Originally by: Narisa Bithon clearing waypoints is no longer available without having to open the map before today's patch it was possible to right click on the list of the systems and clear all waypoints...this option is not there anymore. Are you sure? It's still there when I try to do this.. (actually I first didn't see it and panicked but then I realized I was right clicking on the station I just undocked from, not in space ) yeah it no longer says "clear all waypoints" as a work around if u click on the last + sign in the list of little squares (red in my case as im in 0.0) it lets you remove waypoint.......... this however will remove all way points rather than just one.
Arra Lith HUSARIA Nihilists Social Club	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:42:00 - [10] Edited by: Arra Lith on 06/04/2011 19:43:04 With many waypoints (when scroll appears) it is not possible to move waypoint to bottom (to make it final destination point from waypoint): - when dragging till end nothing happens - you can move it only to 1 before last - when clicking 'Set destination' error is reveived: "Can't set waypoint to same location twice" Also I dont see "clear all waypoints" option as well - there is only "Optimize" button. You can delete waypoints only 1 by 1.

Moto Akimoto	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:43:00 - [11] This patch isn't installing correctly on Mac OSX. "Examining File : /Contents/Frameworks/wineserver -> SHA1 Error" Akimoto 400Ö Indices: Are you a Market Wizard or will you get taken for a ride?
Ingvar Angst Amarr Omni Industrial Coalition Talocan United	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:47:00 - [12] Apparently mining lasers complete a cycle now instead of turning off when you click them off.
Sajeera	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:51:00 - [13] Originally by: Miso Hawnee Server hadn't even been up 5 minutes and half my alliance chat mentioned this. Also, I thought we were supposed to get one more chance to resculpt our characters, not just play hairdresser in station. Also, hair dresser does not work either: You will need to recreate your character through character selection before you can re-customize it. I can live without resculpting now but once Incarna hit, it will be a must. Because at that moment half of eve population will realize that they have a female avatars with big, cone shaped breasts, pointing in weird directions.
Towaoc Caldari Applied Technologies Inc	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:55:00 - [14] Contract System / Available Contracts / Courier / Search Function It would seem that Courier contracts may only be searched for by Player name. Courier contracts issued on behalf of the Corporation are not searchable by that Corporation or the Player that wrote the contract. People are going to have a hard time finding all of the lucrative courier contracts that I write on behalf of my corp...
Hesperius	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:58:00 - [15] Edited by: Hesperius on 06/04/2011 19:59:13 SSD & limited C drive space
Captain Charismatic Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:06:00 - [16] Limited C drive space = patch failure = repair failure = repair now downloading 1.02GB of useless crap that will probably fail again. When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. A limited bandwidth connection makes it extremely hard to patch a game that requires more than one attempt that includes downloading the patch / material.
Skeito	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:08:00 - [17] Okay im thick, how do you view saved fittings?
Korasen Abora Sayara	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:10:00 - [18] Quite pleased with the "Reset Expression" button in Portrait mode - would also like to see a "Reset Position" one though.
Ban Doga	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:14:00 - [19] Originally by: Captain Charismatic Limited C drive space = patch failure = repair failure = repair now downloading 1.02GB of useless crap that will probably fail again. When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. A limited bandwidth connection makes it extremely hard to patch a game that requires more than one attempt that includes downloading the patch / material. How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it? If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault...
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:15:00 - [20] With time stamps turned on in chat windows, certain smaller size fonts, when wrapping for a new line, appear mingled with the time stamp of the next chat message The Real Space Initiative - V7

Captain Charismatic Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:20:00 - [21] Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:25:34 Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:23:23 Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:22:16 Originally by: Ban Doga Originally by: Captain Charismatic Limited C drive space = patch failure = repair failure = repair now downloading 1.02GB of useless crap that will probably fail again. When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. A limited bandwidth connection makes it extremely hard to patch a game that requires more than one attempt that includes downloading the patch / material. How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it? If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault... Uhh, no. See, the reason I think it's an installer design flaw is that the normal person is not going to move things around or reassign temp folder to other drives. This is not basic housekeeping. This is more advanced than that. The average user isn't going to know or care. The fact that the installer demands to use a portion of a drive that can be completely arbitrary seems bad design to me. You suggested this in a prior thread to another user with the same problem. Imagine that some of us may not even have another drive. I do, but some don't. The fact that limited space causes an extremely messy patching of the game is bad design. I think an installer such as this needs to roll back changes if it errors, rather than simply going AHHHHHHHHHH and handing it to the repair tool. EDIT: After downloading that 1.02GB, it's now "restoring files". See if it fails yet again.... O, we're at checksumming client...
Holy One	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:25:00 - [22] Edited by: Holy One on 06/04/2011 20:26:14 Edited by: Holy One on 06/04/2011 20:25:27 Cant import 1000000 units of ionic solutions in to an empty launchpad (10, 000 m3 capacity or 1m ionic solutions) like usual. says there isnt enough space. I notice someone else is having container issues. you broke some mathskis? n/m. I tried it 6 times and refused then left it 5 mins and tried again and it went through. weird. w/e BBQ makes me hungry for more...
Cresalle	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:27:00 - [23] Majority of the tattoos look stupid and/or nightmarish. And who the hell puts metal spikes in their forehead? For real? You had good models of things before and you choose to continue not to use them. How hard would it be to just remodel the old tattoos? Why is it not a good decision to bring back the Caldari face-implants instead of some hellraiser brain-spike bull**? People get ed because you take away things that are important to them. You claim to understand this but then you do like this. I can only really come up with three possible explanations of why this might be the case: 1) You just want to off as many people as possible before you shut down TQ and turn it into the WoD server. (We'll call this the "you be trollin" scenario.) 2) You have middle managers or etc that want to 'move away from the tired old style' and 'create a new vision' or something. (We'll call this the "ing brain-stem challenged" scenario.) 3) You are all bat** crazy, drunk, high, or all of the above. (We'll call this the "viking" scenario.) Come on, guys. Get serious for a minute. I mean damn. Anyway, framerate improved mildly but the new content made it like breaking out the china to serve turd sandwiches.
Ban Doga	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:28:00 - [24] Edited by: Ban Doga on 06/04/2011 20:32:16 Originally by: Captain Charismatic Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:25:34 Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:23:23 Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:22:16 Originally by: Ban Doga Originally by: Captain Charismatic Limited C drive space = patch failure = repair failure = repair now downloading 1.02GB of useless crap that will probably fail again. When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. A limited bandwidth connection makes it extremely hard to patch a game that requires more than one attempt that includes downloading the patch / material. How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it? If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault... Uhh, no. See, the reason I think it's an installer design flaw is that the normal person is not going to move things around or reassign temp folder to other drives. This is not basic housekeeping. This is more advanced than that. The average user isn't going to know or care. The fact that the installer demands to use a portion of a drive that can be completely arbitrary seems bad design to me. You suggested this in a prior thread to another user with the same problem. Imagine that some of us may not even have another drive. I do, but some don't. The fact that limited space causes an extremely messy patching of the game is bad design. I think an installer such as this needs to roll back changes if it errors, rather than simply going AHHHHHHHHHH and handing it to the repair tool. EDIT: After downloading that 1.02GB, it's now "restoring files". See if it fails yet again.... O, we're at checksumming client... EVERY drive has limited space. There is not a single one with unlimited capacity. If your disk is full and it's the only one you have and you want to install something new you need to make room first. That's really not rocket sience... Just think how ignorant someone would appear saying "I don't care about the things under my car's hood. I think it's bad design that some fluids in some of those tanks need to be changed every now and then. That's totally arbitrary and the car should simply stop instead of getting damaged. That's more than basic housekeeping for most people. They shouldn't need to do this at all..." It's your computer, learn to use it properly and stop blaming other people when you fail to keep it running.

CCP Affinity	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:28:00 - [25] Originally by: Wiccan999 On every jump the autopilot just rests and turns every waypoint off Is this an issue for anyone else? I just tried to reproduce this and autopilot is functioning fine for me

Captain Charismatic Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:31:00 - [26] Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:32:07 Originally by: Ban Doga If your disk is full and it's the only one you have and you want to install something new you need to make room first. That's really not rocket sience... I'm not saying it is. That isn't my point. Please don't interpret me wrong. My point is that a small error such as this, that would be handled on other installers as "O snap, you have no space, make room, rolling back changes", here, results in a half ass patch, where the client version logs are updated, but the material is not. Then, when you try to launch, you obviously get a client crash. You can't use the ~770MB update file because the file believes your client is updated due to those version logs. It then forces you to use the repair tool, which downloads the missing data THAT YOU ALREADY DOWNLOADED IN THE PATCH, again, but this time unpacked, totaling over a gig. That is ******ed. There is so much wrong and just unobserved with the way the patching utilities handle errors that it's just... surprising. That said, I'm gonna go play my EVE now. :D
Captain Charismatic Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:34:00 - [27] AHAHHAHA. my wormhole system reports its sec status as -1.0 WTF is that? On a happier note, my pos isn't shooting me. Yet.
Ban Doga	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Captain Charismatic Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:32:07 Originally by: Ban Doga If your disk is full and it's the only one you have and you want to install something new you need to make room first. That's really not rocket sience... I'm not saying it is. That isn't my point. Please don't interpret me wrong. Sorry, I probably misunderstood your posting which started with "Limited C drive space = patch failure". I wasn't aware that you were referring to something unrelated to how much space was left on your disk.
Ariane VoxDei	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:35:00 - [29] Originally by: Ban Doga How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it? If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault... It creates a temporary directory of its own under your user directory (under \users\<processowner>\appdata\local\temp on W7), and that is not trivially moved without upsetting a lot of stuff. It can be done, but most people are better off not trying to juggle that to another drive. Nor would it be desirable, since usually the reason there is limited space is that they are on a SSD, for speed reasons.
Charlotte Yakamoto Amarr Lead Farmers	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:35:00 - [30] The storing of fittings on the server does not work for me on this character. I get a popup asking me what fittings I wish to store on the server. Pressing the OK button however doesn't do anything, no matter if I have no fittings selected, all of them, or just a random selection. Also, emptying my fittings folder does not help, neither does clearing my cache. It works perfectly fine on another account using the same client however.


CCP Punkturis	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:36:00 - [31] Originally by: Arra Lith Edited by: Arra Lith on 06/04/2011 19:47:17 With many waypoints (when scroll appears) it is not possible to move waypoint to bottom (to make it final destination point from waypoint): - when dragging till end nothing happens - you can move it only to 1 before last - when clicking 'Set destination' error is reveived: "Can't set waypoint to same location twice" Also I dont see "clear all waypoints" option as well - there is only "Optimize" button. You can delete waypoints only 1 by 1. And last thing: scrolling is not working while dragging, so moving waypoints with long list is very inconvenient. This drag and drop functionality was added in Incursion 1.3 not this patch today, Incursions 1.4. - If you drag a waypoint to the empty space below the last one, it should be added to the end. - There was never a "Clear all waypoints" button in this window, you can do that by right clicking on the map or in space. - If you have that many waypoints so you can't see them all without a scroll, you'll have to resize your window to a larger size, and if that's not enough, you'll just have to move them about in a few goes. Where are you clicking "Set destination"? If you're doing it in the right click on an entry in the waypoints list, that's expected since it's already a destination.

Jilly Serkov	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:36:00 - [32] Originally by: Captain Charismatic Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:32:07 Originally by: Ban Doga If your disk is full and it's the only one you have and you want to install something new you need to make room first. That's really not rocket sience... I'm not saying it is. That isn't my point. Please don't interpret me wrong. My point is that a small error such as this, that would be handled on other installers as "O snap, you have no space, make room, rolling back changes", here, results in a half ass patch, where the client version logs are updated, but the material is not. Then, when you try to launch, you obviously get a client crash. You can't use the ~770MB update file because the file believes your client is updated due to those version logs. It then forces you to use the repair tool, which downloads the missing data THAT YOU ALREADY DOWNLOADED IN THE PATCH, again, but this time unpacked, totaling over a gig. That is ******ed. There is so much wrong and just unobserved with the way the patching utilities handle errors that it's just... surprising. That said, I'm gonna go play my EVE now. :D dude .. please ... tears ... lol ... (and thats from someone who is too pisd to even attempt to download the patch ... oh ... wait .... I failz sorry :(
Minerer202 Arekin Piggy Bank Arekin Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:41:00 - [33] Edited by: Minerer202 on 06/04/2011 20:43:42 Edited by: Minerer202 on 06/04/2011 20:43:26 What did you do to the character chreator!? Every little change causes a 0 FPS 5 second freeze, after which anything you had attempted to do (such as toon-spinning with boredom) fires off. I did several character portraits before this patch and don't recall it being such a poor experience? EDIT: This is after turning off "Physically simulated cloth and hair". before doing that it was just a joke...
Mullethead Northstar Cabal	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:46:00 - [34] Originally by: Charlotte Yakamoto The storing of fittings on the server does not work for me on this character. I get a popup asking me what fittings I wish to store on the server. Pressing the OK button however doesn't do anything, no matter if I have no fittings selected, all of them, or just a random selection. Also, emptying my fittings folder does not help, neither does clearing my cache. It works perfectly fine on another account using the same client however. I have exactly the same problem. Tried clearing the cache to no avail....open to ideas CCP
Captain Charismatic Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:48:00 - [35] Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:50:35 Originally by: Ariane VoxDei Originally by: Ban Doga How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it? If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault... It creates a temporary directory of its own under your user directory (under \users\<processowner>\appdata\local\temp on W7), and that is not trivially moved without upsetting a lot of stuff. It can be done, but most people are better off not trying to juggle that to another drive. Nor would it be desirable, since usually the reason there is limited space is that they are on a SSD, for speed reasons. I just deleted another game I hadn't played in 6 months, freed 9 gb, and repair completed fine. Basically I woulda just liked a warning along the lines of "Hey, you realize you have a hair of space, and I'll fail if we try this, right?". *Cue reply: It's your job to monitor disk space.
Juil Gallente Phoenix Industries Pty. Ltd.	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:51:00 - [36] My feedback: - Modules not just turning off - Sucks and needs to be fixed ASAP not 'oh it can wait for Downtime' yeah hey look i can't just cycle to what i need to i have to wait up to 2 minutes to do so (strip miners for example). - New Scars: Great except that we can only have ONE. God how hard is it to allow layers? More then one game does and you hyped about it durring the Art stuff at fan feset. - new Tattoos: What a JOKE. Oh i can put some arrows on my head.. where are the ones from the old Character Creator? Where are the Implants, etc etc.. we've waited what months now for this and we have... nothing a few arrows that obviously took all of 5 - 10 minutes work in illustrator to do. - New Peircings: Ok.. obviously some ones ignoring what we had again.. and apparently I can only have studs or the like in one eye not that other.. and apparently females get less choice then males. - Clothing: 700mb of stuff and there is NO new clothing designs in there? And WHY can't females and males wear the others clothes? I mean last time i checked a chick can just steal my shoes and put them on.. - Down Time issues: Ok, you guys REALLY need to start working out your down time issues 10 hours down, apparently fixing problems with your patch and the patch goes live with a bunch of issues anyway.. - Quality Control Issues: HOW THE HELL did the Module bug get past Q.C? that ones a joke almost as bad as certain other bugs you've introduced that caused system wide issues. - Juil Phoenix Industries
Vahligmarr Minmatar Tribal Core	Posted - 2011.04.06 20:53:00 - [37] Quote: You suggested this in a prior thread to another user with the same problem. Imagine that some of us may not even have another drive. I do, but some don't. The fact that limited space causes an extremely messy patching of the game is bad design. If you are going to play games on computers, you should have more room left on your harddrive than 1.5 gb. sorry, especially with a ssd you should always leave at least one fifth of your total space free. 2TB Hard Drives are available for ~100 Euros, give your gaming rig some standard hardware + routine maintenance before you blame ccp for bad patch work.
Octarius Eskravu	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:03:00 - [38] Originally by: Juil I mean last time i checked a chick can just steal my shoes and put them on... Man...you must have small feet! ok srry...nothing to add really...still haven¦t docked home to download the thing!
Ottman Amarr LoneWolf Mining Veni Vidi Vici Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:03:00 - [39] remembers good bad old times of tranquillity, the warning about skill queue in the past had a reason, patch days back then often came hand in hand with issues that showed up on patch day then, that is thanks to the hard work of ccp guys more rare these days, but murphy often comes around the corner and then ****s hits the so often called fan lol... MfG Ottman P.S. : knowing the "old" days of eve makes me feel kinda "old" too sometimes :P
Kain Kodiak	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:05:00 - [40] I am currently having no issues, it's looks good to me.

Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:15:00 - [41] Originally by: Sajeera Originally by: Miso Hawnee Server hadn't even been up 5 minutes and half my alliance chat mentioned this. Also, I thought we were supposed to get one more chance to resculpt our characters, not just play hairdresser in station. Also, hair dresser does not work either: You will need to recreate your character through character selection before you can re-customize it. I can live without resculpting now but once Incarna hit, it will be a must. Because at that moment half of eve population will realize that they have a female avatars with big, cone shaped breasts, pointing in weird directions. I swear this toon could have the face of Bob Barker and nobody would ever notice. ;)
Bloodpetal The Black Company TBC	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:17:00 - [42] 50 Server saved fittings isn't enough. Saving them to XML is useless because YOU CAN'T GET TO THEM. I started a thread to discuss this and my opinions on the matter. It's not that hard to get BOTH and have the best of both worlds available. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493383 ____________________________________________________ Bastet :: Captain
Lost'In'Space	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:32:00 - [43] When is the new forum is going to be up? No replies can be made to the current one after the new one goes live? or just no new threads? I thought new forum is part of 1.4
Haleuth Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:33:00 - [44] Originally by: Bloodpetal 50 Server saved fittings isn't enough. Saving them to XML is useless because YOU CAN'T GET TO THEM. I started a thread to discuss this and my opinions on the matter. It's not that hard to get BOTH and have the best of both worlds available. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493383 this guy speaks the truth. Most people in RvB have more than 50 fittings, alot of similar frig and cruiser fits for different situations. When trying to import them i cant tell which is which because alot of my fittings have similar names. There not listed under which ship they are and you cant access them to use them. You should make a test server and test some of this stuff before dumping it on us, would save alot of hassle. Haleuth
Milla Jovobitch	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:34:00 - [45] The patch is ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED MB in size? What the **, CCP?!?! It's bad enough that I have to download a huge ass update every once in 6 months or so, but now even patches have become gigantic? I live in Africa and it's not enough that it takes me f-o-r-e-v-e-r to download your patch but I also have to pay 20 bucks per gig. So this time YOU fixing YOUR **ups costed ME 30 bucks. Thanks a thousand. I think CCP hates Africa.
Nakomode Caldari Crit Line	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:34:00 - [46] Alright, the new contract system is working wierd. I can not get any search result when setting item category "Blueprint Original" or "Blueprint Copy"
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:43:00 - [47] Originally by: CCP Punkturis This drag and drop functionality was added in Incursion 1.3 not this patch today, Incursions 1.4. Ill translate - "we broke that one patch earlier, doesnt count anymore" Originally by: CCP Punkturis - If you have that many waypoints so you can't see them all without a scroll, you'll have to resize your window to a larger size, and if that's not enough, you'll just have to move them about in a few goes. Ill translate - "too cheap to hire Usability Expert, developers know best whats good for you, and that is a lot of clicking" whats with fittings on server? seriously? 50 and thats it?

CCP Punkturis	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:56:00 - [48] Originally by: Rasz Lin Originally by: CCP Punkturis This drag and drop functionality was added in Incursion 1.3 not this patch today, Incursions 1.4. Ill translate - "we broke that one patch earlier, doesnt count anymore" Originally by: CCP Punkturis - If you have that many waypoints so you can't see them all without a scroll, you'll have to resize your window to a larger size, and if that's not enough, you'll just have to move them about in a few goes. Ill translate - "too cheap to hire Usability Expert, developers know best whats good for you, and that is a lot of clicking" This thread is about issues with Incursions 1.4, that's why I mentioned that this isn't an issue with Incursions 1.4 You have the "Optimize" button there which would make the sorting easier than moving them one by one if you have many waypoints in the list.

Ahb Nelo	Posted - 2011.04.06 21:57:00 - [49] Either I am missing something or the new function to strip non-active ships is really useless. Ok, it does exactly that: strip all modules from any ship in your hangar. What is something I do not very often... What I had wished was a real fitting screen where I can move single modules between ships in my hangar. In real life I do not need to start my cars engine before putting parts in or out.

CCP Punkturis	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:00:00 - [50] Originally by: Ahb Nelo Either I am missing something or the new function to strip non-active ships is really useless. Ok, it does exactly that: strip all modules from any ship in your hangar. What is something I do not very often... What I had wished was a real fitting screen where I can move single modules between ships in my hangar. In real life I do not need to start my cars engine before putting parts in or out. Before you had to board a ship to strip it, now you don't need to do that


Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:01:00 - [51] Love the new char creator options. Although you could make it 10x better by allowing scars/piercings to work via a layer system. ie having more than one piercing per body part. I'd really like to mix n match different ear/lip piercings for instance. Or have multiple nose piercings. Above all else, I would love to have multiple scars, I really want at least one of my characters to look like he fell into a meat mincing machine while on fire. Stunning EVE Online Theme for PS3
Swynet	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:04:00 - [52] Bug: mining lazors Stuff used: Hulk -T2 strips - T1 Pyro cristals Obs: if you stop your cycle the laser beam stops but the icon timer still runs and it's red high lighted untill it stops (end normal cycle) ________________________________________________ Originally by: Goose99 In EVE, PVE can happen anywhere, anytime. Whenever you undock, you subject yourself to involuntary PVE.
Inspiration	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:09:00 - [53] Edited by: Inspiration on 06/04/2011 22:12:08 I have to say I am quite disappointed by the new contract system. I expected massive improvements, but all I see is a new UI, the options that were there before are just located differently. Granted the search works a little different as you can do partial matches, but in the old system you would get a list of modules to choose from. Right now I think I would need to do more typing then ever before to get something done. The only real new improved option I found so far is that you can separate buy and sell orders. But that really never needed a complete interface overhaul, now did it? For those that do not know, and that probably most of the casual contract users, there was a "simple" view in the old system. It basically did all what the new system seems to offer. The one thing that was missing was one more option in the "contract type" drop down to isolate buy orders from sell orders. Now what would be handy, is a list of often used items, like the marker quick-bar, the old system had this partially in the form of text completion (like any other search control in EVE). This rant aside, I find the contract search section too small. And the spacing of the "free search text" control is not quite right, the X mark is not separated from the controls contents, making it ugly and unreadable. Can it work...sure, but is it any better then before...not at all and it has its own issues on top!
Inanna NiKunni	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:11:00 - [54] Originally by: Ban Doga Edited by: Ban Doga on 06/04/2011 20:32:16 Originally by: Captain Charismatic Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:25:34 Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:23:23 Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:22:16 Originally by: Ban Doga Originally by: Captain Charismatic Limited C drive space = patch failure = repair failure = repair now downloading 1.02GB of useless crap that will probably fail again. When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. A limited bandwidth connection makes it extremely hard to patch a game that requires more than one attempt that includes downloading the patch / material. How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it? If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault... Uhh, no. See, the reason I think it's an installer design flaw is that the normal person is not going to move things around or reassign temp folder to other drives. This is not basic housekeeping. This is more advanced than that. The average user isn't going to know or care. The fact that the installer demands to use a portion of a drive that can be completely arbitrary seems bad design to me. You suggested this in a prior thread to another user with the same problem. Imagine that some of us may not even have another drive. I do, but some don't. The fact that limited space causes an extremely messy patching of the game is bad design. I think an installer such as this needs to roll back changes if it errors, rather than simply going AHHHHHHHHHH and handing it to the repair tool. EDIT: After downloading that 1.02GB, it's now "restoring files". See if it fails yet again.... O, we're at checksumming client... EVERY drive has limited space. There is not a single one with unlimited capacity. If your disk is full and it's the only one you have and you want to install something new you need to make room first. That's really not rocket sience... Just think how ignorant someone would appear saying "I don't care about the things under my car's hood. I think it's bad design that some fluids in some of those tanks need to be changed every now and then. That's totally arbitrary and the car should simply stop instead of getting damaged. That's more than basic housekeeping for most people. They shouldn't need to do this at all..." It's your computer, learn to use it properly and stop blaming other people when you fail to keep it running. i think you misunderstand his point, and the point is that the installer could have checked for available disk space in the very beginning and gracefully displayed a message saying - please clean up some disk space and try again when you have 1.2 GB available. Period. Exit the installer. This is the point - and its good.
Magnus Witchspace	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:12:00 - [55] As others have mentioned, modules (eg. strip miners) have been crippled. You can't turn off or exit a cycle. I'm imagining with strip miners it will be faster to dock and come back with a reset strip miner. Definitely a broken feature. As for the portrait customisations, what a load of junk. Why do we even have portraits in the first place? So feral kids can play with their piercings and make-up? This feature makes every player look like a nerd or a try-hard. Yes, I'm ****ed off at the moment. ;)
Alain Kinsella Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:15:00 - [56] Originally by: Ariane VoxDei Originally by: Ban Doga How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it? If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault... It creates a temporary directory of its own under your user directory (under \users\<processowner>\appdata\local\temp on W7), and that is not trivially moved without upsetting a lot of stuff. It can be done, but most people are better off not trying to juggle that to another drive. Nor would it be desirable, since usually the reason there is limited space is that they are on a SSD, for speed reasons. The other 'speed' optimization is usually to partition a larger drive (1+ TB) so that swap & 'temp' had its own partition at the beginning, and a relatively small C right behind that. This is my setup, and getting close to the same problem (so far nothing serious though). I'm beginning to see this as a boost to WD 'Raptors. For myself, I need to figure out where my copy of Ghost wandered off to during the move last fall...
Solara Prophet	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:16:00 - [57] Extended downtime + 775Meg download on slow connection = POS ran out of fuel. Not excited to see how many bugs I'll hit up against to get it back up. Let's not even mention the extra downtime coming at 23:00...
Hocs Gallente Red Sword Union	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:27:00 - [58] My client says that my graphics card (GMA 4500mHD, yeah I know it's a ****) does not support shader 3.0. It¦s not true (Teorically my graphics support even sm 4.0). I play using shader model on "high", and I can access the character creator with shader and models both on high values (at low fps, but I can!). There is a possible fix for that?. Sorry for my bad english.
Summerdead	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:32:00 - [59] Originally by: Haleuth Originally by: Bloodpetal 50 Server saved fittings isn't enough. Saving them to XML is useless because YOU CAN'T GET TO THEM. I started a thread to discuss this and my opinions on the matter. It's not that hard to get BOTH and have the best of both worlds available. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493383 this guy speaks the truth. Most people in RvB have more than 50 fittings, alot of similar frig and cruiser fits for different situations. When trying to import them i cant tell which is which because alot of my fittings have similar names. There not listed under which ship they are and you cant access them to use them. You should make a test server and test some of this stuff before dumping it on us, would save alot of hassle. I think itÆs a great idea that the fittings are saved on the server as I use a PC at home and then when I go to work or go out I use my laptop, saves having to constantly export to xml and then copy across every time I make a change. But totally agree 50 fittings is no way enough! It may be ok for the newer players that donÆt have many ships but when you have multiple ships and different setups for different situations it is no way enough, just as an example I have around 10 different setups just for my Drake! And thatÆs not including the other 20 or so ships I have, please please please increase to it to at least 200.
Mike deVoid Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:33:00 - [60] Modules continue to flash green and finish their cycle after jumping through a stargate, however they stop at the end of that cycle. I noticed this with my Damage Control. Tested this with the fittings screen open - the DC continued its cycle and then stopped however hull resistances dropped to zero after jumping through. This must be a client-side bug that is not forcing the end of the cycle for the client. Potential damage is that people will not be able to re-activate these modules until they have ended this period where they are only on 'virtually'.

Mattias Kerensky Minmatar The Flying Tigers United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:36:00 - [61] Edited by: Mattias Kerensky on 06/04/2011 22:43:15 Originally by: Charlotte Yakamoto The storing of fittings on the server does not work for me on this character. I get a popup asking me what fittings I wish to store on the server. Pressing the OK button however doesn't do anything, no matter if I have no fittings selected, all of them, or just a random selection. Also, emptying my fittings folder does not help, neither does clearing my cache. It works perfectly fine on another account using the same client however. I have this problem also, and it's INSANELY ANNOYING. Just saying. Also, capping the number of fittings at 50? Seriously? I have 150 saved and another 200 or so in my XML files on my computer. Raise that cap!
Ubaka Tornsoul	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:36:00 - [62] Well there is one thing that I've seen, when jumping though gates the client now hiccups and even sometimes causes the music to hiccup, as well when shutting down the game the client crashes. so far thats all I've noticed.
Vedrea	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:40:00 - [63] Problems I've noticed: 1) Ships no longer move about in station (this is quite weird if you've played for a while, actually makes me feel ill and everytime I catch sight of it, it makes me think there's been a GPU freeze) 2) Character creator is much, much slower 3) System Scanning screen, probe warp trail animation bugs out about 25% of the time, looping way too fast and sticking around after they should have been removed
Trinity Faetal Gallente Little Garden	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:43:00 - [64] at least we still have our boot.ini
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:49:00 - [65] Edited by: Copine Callmeknau on 06/04/2011 22:50:21 Originally by: Inanna NiKunni Originally by: Captain Charismatic When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. i think you misunderstand his point, and the point is that the installer could have checked for available disk space in the very beginning and gracefully displayed a message saying - please clean up some disk space and try again when you have 1.2 GB available. Period. Exit the installer. This is the point - and its good. The updater should absolutely check for available disk space before beginning extraction, this is basic QA testing and CCP should really be taking a little more time on these things. However this is just as much a case of ID-10T user error, considering he had this exact same issue before and didn't learn from his mistake Stunning EVE Online Theme for PS3
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:54:00 - [66] Squad warp is working sporadically for me. Had 2 of my toons fleeted. Using the squad commander, I tried to squad warp, but it only took effect on the one that initiated warp. I cancelled, and tried again to make sure I didn't misclick, and still no joy. Checked fleet layout to make sure all was good, and it did. 3rd attempt didn't work either. Tried another time a few minutes later, and it worked. Tried again to get back to my POS, and it didn't work. Very odd. Other than the patching issues, I've basically encountered every other bug listed in the multiple bug threads (CCP, you need to get organized there) except the overview bugs. That seems to be working. And BTW, thank you for the long overdue "remove bookmarks from space" option. Originally by: Miso Hawnee I swear this toon could have the face of Bob Barker and nobody would ever notice. ;) Your toon has a face?
PryMary Minmatar Solar Nexus.	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:56:00 - [67] Tested Character Creator - Run's Fine, little laggy on the initial start but fine after. Unexpected server restart ended my testing session... Will get back to you... Regards, PryMary ☻♥
TheGermanBismarck	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:56:00 - [68] I know what is wrong with 1.4, it still contains python code. What kind of a programmer uses python???
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:03:00 - [69] Originally by: TheGermanBismarck I know what is wrong with 1.4, it still contains python code. What kind of a programmer uses python??? ^^^^^ This...
COMM4NDER Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:04:00 - [70] Hm so they removed the hovering in stations (?) or is it only me? The Game

Vedrea	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:06:00 - [71] Originally by: COMM4NDER Hm so they removed the hovering in stations (?) or is it only me? Nope, not just you. I'm frankly upset. I know it's cosmetic but I really hope they put this back how it was.
Replacement 234	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:06:00 - [72] I nearly gave up waiting for the patch and then it came and it downlowaded, ok I guess. I did give up waiting for the 11 players who were online to let the rest of us come in and play. I played BC2 for a long time. So when I logged in to see how it was going to go here and went into the character creator, I found out that CCP is not unaware that blue exists in other manner than eyes and inch thick eye makeup. There is sort of a quite dark blue smock, but that is it. There is a nice color of blue on a leather outter top a woman is wearing on the web page. Did that hit the cutting room floor as, "EGAD - WHAT A HIDEOUS COLOR THAT EXISTS NO WHERE ELSE IN NATURE!!" Guess we have to be happy with the green and brown or the brown and green. Actually, I'm quite pleased with the "little things" I've noticed after returning from my most recent "too fed up with Eve players whose entire joy comes from seeing that others have none" hiatus. There are so many times when I yearn for a single player version. EEK! I am sure I will be invited to play WoW on that one. Never played it and never will. Other than a short tour of the character creator, I have no idea how the new patch is doing as the server was going down for an ememgency with the POS's as I was logging on. Maybe I'll come back next week after 1.4.SIX has settled down.
Paul Tagg	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:08:00 - [73] I had to do a complete reinstall of Eve, after the update hit a exception, and then the repair function just kept running without any progress at all. was stuck on 50% of redownloading files.
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:08:00 - [74] Originally by: Mattias Kerensky Edited by: Mattias Kerensky on 06/04/2011 22:43:15I have this problem also, and it's INSANELY ANNOYING. Just saying. Also, capping the number of fittings at 50? Seriously? I have 150 saved and another 200 or so in my XML files on my computer. Raise that cap! Actually, this is totally ******ed. With the number of ships in this game and the number of multiple uses one can have, 50 fittings is rather unrealistic. Ditto for the old 50 for corp fittings. Yay. Now it's 100. Big deal. At least we have unlimited local ones for personal use before. Either give us the same functionality on the server that we had locally, or get rid of this dumb plan and revert back to storing fits locally. Whoever the brainchild is who came up with this brainiac idea needs to be taken out behind the wood shed and beaten with a flaming 2x4 wrapped in barbed wire.
Lord Jingu	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:10:00 - [75] Originally by: CCP Affinity Originally by: Wiccan999 On every jump the autopilot just rests and turns every waypoint off Is this an issue for anyone else? I just tried to reproduce this and autopilot is functioning fine for me I have a corp mate that has been having that problem for the last 3 or so days, his way points delete, and a few windows keep opening after every jump/session change.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:10:00 - [76] Yay you fixed the station/moon graphic issue. Stations behind small moons are no longer superimposed over them.
Der Valkirie	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:10:00 - [77] Love the CCP attitude, too many complaints then simply shutdown the thread. All I can say about Incursion is BFD. I wish they spent a little more time on really upgrading/updating the game/gameplay and less on silly character images. How about some REAL new ships/weapons/equipment?
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:19:00 - [78] Edited by: Crunchmeister on 06/04/2011 23:23:20 Originally by: Der Valkirie Love the CCP attitude, too many complaints then simply shutdown the thread. All I can say about Incursion is BFD. Not the first time stuff like that happened. CCP were claiming "overwhelming support" for their 0.0 nerf, yet when the overwhelming negative support on the Facebook post was put forward, posts against the nerf magically started disappearing. About 1/2 the thread got deleted post by post only leaving the comments that supported it. Eventually, they just deleted the post because they couldn't keep up with the illusion people actually wanted this. . Originally by: Der Valkirie I wish they spent a little more time on really upgrading/updating the game/gameplay and less on silly character images. How about some REAL new ships/weapons/equipment? That's actually pretty backward. Generally in the programming world, you focus on fixing existing known issues and testing thoroughly to ensure the bugs have been squashed BEFORE adding new functionality or content to a piece of software. I'm a programmer (defence-related, not gaming), and if I rushed half-assed content like this out the door, I would have been fired a long time ago. How these bugs made it past your QA department is really beyond me. I do applaud the "little things" initiative though. It's definitely a step in the right direction. If the same approach could be taken to other aspects of Eve it would save a lot of hassles. Oh well. We get another wonderful extended downtime tomorrow. I have a feeling this will be much like back a few months ago where we have patches to apply on an almost daily basis.
Rainus Max Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:23:00 - [79] Well it appears my station got a nice new name "DBT-GB III - DBT-GB III - DBT-GB III - DBT-GB III - DBT FUSEN Core", I've managed to fix it but it appears one of the CCP test stations also had the problem: "Outpost - 3C-26I I - 3C-26I I - 3C-26I I - Tanis Corp Gallente Administrat " I know this might get a nice hit from a little mod banhammer but can WE have some feed back on our concerns over the plexing alterations, you seam to be ignoring every other thread? Please?
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:29:00 - [80] Originally by: Rainus Max I know this might get a nice hit from a little mod banhammer but can WE have some feed back on our concerns over the plexing alterations, you seam to be ignoring every other thread? Please? <sarcasm>Support is overwhelmingly positive. Everyone wants this change. Therefore there's nothing to discuss.</sarcasm>

Jared Tobin Bloodstone Industries B.S.I.	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:31:00 - [81] Hmmm... Feedback. OK, I don't like how my skill training times INCREASED, not naturally decreased when compared to time before DT and time after DT+Upgrade. (??) I don't like the massive "lag time" to UNDOCK, meanwhile your ship is already showing to others outside a station (open target scenario). I find it odd to see the status of people not updating properly (out of fleet, but still purple; people online but shown as "offline" red; etc) I don't like it when I attempt dragging an item from Deliveries into a cargohold is not giving the option to split the stack if "not enough space" is detected/calculated. Not even with use of the SHIFT KEY. All containers must be open and items must be manually dragged into the container's window's space. I really dislike when I click REPLY ALL to a posting in a Mailing List and it only sends your response to the first person in the recipients section, even though the line has "To: [character individual], [ML]". Thus response never goes to mailing list. I find it strange that hitting END in a mail composition window sets your cursor to the beginning of a newline in mail composer. Using cursor left key puts you 2 characters to previous line, making it oddly unable to touch end line character. I STILL don't like logging in and seeing ALL MAIL written/received between Feb 21 UTC DT through Feb 23¦s UTC DT are not being remembered as being read and replied to. (BUG REPORT #108058 "Attached to a defect" UNFIXED) I STILL find it frustrating that, when in the CEO/Corp Interface> "HOME" Tab > "EDIT DETAILS" button: AUTOLINKING is still not working. Highlight is interpretted by text composer as appears to be 10 ASCII characters "to the right" of highlighted text intended to be autolinked. ERROR HAS BEEN OCCURING SINCE INCURSIONS 1.0.0: confirmed by GM Renril (BUG REPORT #108061 unanswered) I STILL dislike "Window amnesia": It's defined as when the EVE game is not remembering where windows are or how they have been resized. Same with ASSETS window, which has width limitation. (BUG REPORT #108069 unanswered) Come to think of it, I STILL find it odd that all OTHER people¦s portraits in chat windows appear smooth (anti-aliased), except my own. (BUG REPORT #108064 unanswered) I STILL don't like being told to go through the hassle of writing bug reports that are replied to and confirmed as "yes, we know about this and it is part of a known issue/defect" and yet no one cares to fix it after 5+ months have gone by. Like the "DELETE" key can, for a feedback example, sometimes can cause odd "re-ordering of lines" in a mail composition, esp when hit on a blank line. (BUG REPORT #108074 "Attached to a defect" UNFIXED) I don't like the flickering from system suns. Not sure if it's eppileptic or subliminal brainwashing you got goint here... but I'll be sure to file another bug report... WILL SOMEONE PLEASE EITHER KILL THE AUTO-DROPPING INTO CONTAINERS ability -OR- at least make that action work ONLY WITH A MODIFER being held such as: ALT+Drag to drop items into a container. With windows not opening correctly, one loses "screen real estate" quickly with overlapping and trying to move items/ships around is becoming a hatefully redundant task (or artful skill, like moving a ship into your ships window but you have to drop it on the window header bar, not in the window itself, because it thinks you want to magically cram a freighter into a BC.) And get rid of the DAMN 4 HORIZONTAL LINES next to a system name. It's the same height as (well, 1 pixel higher than) the capital letters of the system name in the corner. Quick glance, it looks like an "E". And from the sound of it, I'm thankful I didn't bother with the NCC, so I'll hold off on that feedback until you make a fix to fix a problem that was meant to be fixed with an upgrade that didn't fix.... wait... oh, this sounds like those crazy 6 patches in a row days back toward the end of 2010. Silly CCP... [smile fades] I'm not feeling nostalgic today.
Monsterball	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:36:00 - [82] my mining lasers wont shut off :'(
Drunk Retard	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:45:00 - [83] Sanctums have gone a week early...
Nyio Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:49:00 - [84] Originally by: Charlotte Yakamoto The storing of fittings on the server does not work for me on this character. I get a popup asking me what fittings I wish to store on the server. Pressing the OK button however doesn't do anything, no matter if I have no fittings selected, all of them, or just a random selection. Also, emptying my fittings folder does not help, neither does clearing my cache. It works perfectly fine on another account using the same client however. Hey, I've known about this for some time (been having the same issue on Sisi). I did mention it in local a few times while I knew any of the CCP's were there, but never got a reply. I "fixed" it by deleting all my 185 fittings while logged in on TQ before patch. Guess I should have made a proper bugreport about it, though I was sure it would not go unnoticed. PS: CCP please read any still open bug reports.
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:53:00 - [85] Originally by: Inanna NiKunni i think you misunderstand his point, and the point is that the installer could have checked for available disk space in the very beginning and gracefully displayed a message saying - please clean up some disk space and try again when you have 1.2 GB available. Period. Exit the installer. 1.8GB, for a 700mb patch, first it FORCES to copy itself to C, then it extracts itself to C, then it patches EVE folder
Alana Gerardeau	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:53:00 - [86] Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: Rainus Max I know this might get a nice hit from a little mod banhammer but can WE have some feed back on our concerns over the plexing alterations, you seam to be ignoring every other thread? Please? <sarcasm>Support is overwhelmingly positive. Everyone wants this change. Therefore there's nothing to discuss.</sarcasm> I am extremely disappointed about the way this nullsec nerf was handled. The whole thing was announced less than 2 weeks ago, during a flurry of other announcements from fanfest, yet there were 100 pages of commentary on the forums. The rumor I heard was that CCP would put the brakes on the idea for a while, but here it is. Good thing we invested in the sov upgrades in my system, they're really helpful now.
Rutkov Caldari Blue Republic	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:01:00 - [87] Please include a fix for that insane ship fitting modification.
Fennore	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:04:00 - [88] When you launch the eve client now there is a more noticeable wait till the log screen. Just before the log screen appears them screen seams to cycle (flash) about 5 times. This has appeared on all accounts and 3 computers, and repeats ever time you launch the program. After it's running everything goes as usual.
Lasher1961	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:16:00 - [89] The mining lasers actually do shut off. The timer however keeps going. Its funny this is the first time we've mined as a family in a month and we're going to make about 60% of what we normally would. I guess its funny...
Aria Omnipota	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:25:00 - [90] Originally by: Lasher1961 The mining lasers actually do shut off. The timer however keeps going. Its funny this is the first time we've mined as a family in a month and we're going to make about 60% of what we normally would. I guess its funny... It's called balanacing features, see they nerf'd nullsec so bad that they figured they need to balance it in industry too, so while nonbot ratters will make about 50% what they'd normally make, miners will make 60% of what they'd normally make, aren't you glad CCP is making EVE so much more fun now?

Dana Bomfim Caldari Brasil Estrelar Mineradora Co.	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:31:00 - [91] It is odd that when you buy a car, a washing machine, even a simple battery, all of them comes with a manual, but people usually just read the manual of stuff they have absolutely no idea how it works and no friends or "the brother of the sister of the friend of my neighbour" have one of those. Computers, Softwares, games, and that new shinning addon that makes you email pop from notification area (the place where the clock is in your windows) none read the manual. Many problems you ask for CCP to fix, and they do in some cases, are caused by external influence by other softwares. Sure, when you dont know about it, you blame CCP and think they can make a "all working" game client, but nobody can, or else Windows wouldnt have to update, nor any other software. That would clarify 70% of the complaining about EVE. From the 30% other things, half of them are due to behavior of player base. As a MMO should, it relies on the player to shape many things, and one of them is supply/demand, and other is the group areas. The null sec is there for players to take, period. The null sec is as crappy or as vicious as players make it be. Most player run corps are run by egocentric immature people who dont know more about leadership than "what to train to give bonuses" and nothing else. Game mechanics isnt there to take you by hand and lead you to build an empire where you cant be attacked, restricted, and otherwise harmed. CCP seems to not, nor should, indulge the complains of people who want to sit there and build up over things forever lasting. Then, around 5% of complaints are legitimate to pay attention and try hard to fix. The ones really originated by the EVE client programming itself or flawed game mechanics needing fix. Most people complain like you complain of a knife that doesnt cut when you try to use the oposite side instead of the sharp one. Try to be reasonable in your complaints and maybe you have a better result about them.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:39:00 - [92] Edited by: J Kunjeh on 07/04/2011 00:44:39 Wow, I feel for ya CCP...it's hot in here. Not sure why people insist on ranting instead of having a civil dialogue with CCP (and usually those people ***** the loudest about CCP running away when it just gets to be too much). Anyway, a little feedback CCP. The character creator is fast on my PC, but hellishly slow on my ladies Mac. It may be fast on mine, but it also crashed on me 8 times (actually locked my PC up, had to reboot). I finally gave up because I got tired of starting back at the beginning so many times. It'd be nice to have a "save progress now" button so that when things like this happen, you don't have to start over. Of course, it'd be better to have it fixed. It's nice to have the tats, piercings etc. But I do agree with another poster that it seems like there should be more options (clothes, and tats especially)...but I'm sure those will come with time. I had the module issue too...my laser finishis a complete cycle before stopping after being clicked, meanwhile the laser has stopped firing. That's all for now, I think. Thanks for the hard work. Patch times I'm sure are just peachy for you guys and gals. Edit: one more...I just noticed that I can't hear the mining laser, no matter how close I zoom to my ship. ~Gnosis~
Patri Andari Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:40:00 - [93] Originally by: Dana Bomfim It is odd that when you buy a car, a washing machine, even a simple battery, all of them comes with a manual, but people usually just read the manual of stuff they have absolutely no idea how it works and no friends or "the brother of the sister of the friend of my neighbour" have one of those. Computers, Softwares, games, and that new shinning addon that makes you email pop from notification area (the place where the clock is in your windows) none read the manual. Many problems you ask for CCP to fix, and they do in some cases, are caused by external influence by other softwares. Sure, when you dont know about it, you blame CCP and think they can make a "all working" game client, but nobody can, or else Windows wouldnt have to update, nor any other software. That would clarify 70% of the complaining about EVE. From the 30% other things, half of them are due to behavior of player base. As a MMO should, it relies on the player to shape many things, and one of them is supply/demand, and other is the group areas. The null sec is there for players to take, period. The null sec is as crappy or as vicious as players make it be. Most player run corps are run by egocentric immature people who dont know more about leadership than "what to train to give bonuses" and nothing else. Game mechanics isnt there to take you by hand and lead you to build an empire where you cant be attacked, restricted, and otherwise harmed. CCP seems to not, nor should, indulge the complains of people who want to sit there and build up over things forever lasting. Then, around 5% of complaints are legitimate to pay attention and try hard to fix. The ones really originated by the EVE client programming itself or flawed game mechanics needing fix. Most people complain like you complain of a knife that doesnt cut when you try to use the oposite side instead of the sharp one. Try to be reasonable in your complaints and maybe you have a better result about them. I have heard it said that "no" women play this game. That is clearly wrong. Patri I'll Roshambo You For That Titan!
Garrmor	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:41:00 - [94] You know developers, you may think the world has a fiber connection to the Internet but they don't not really. OK? I have a connection that lets me download at about 150 K/Bits/Sec. So WHY DO I HAVE TO DOWNLOAD A 700 M/BYTE ** CLIENT THAT EVERYONE THINKS SUCKS TODAY... ONLY TO HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN TOMORROW? You guys need to get over yourselves and get your ** together.
JimboDeath	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:41:00 - [95] Originally by: Dana Bomfim Most people complain like you complain of a knife that doesnt cut when you try to use the oposite side instead of the sharp one. Try to be reasonable in your complaints and maybe you have a better result about them. shut up òNPC jamming has been updated and streamlined. They should all work with the same functionality and you can fit countermeasures. In other news, jamming NPCs are still annoying Guess what CCP, you got this wrong as well. If your intent was to allow mods to counter NPC jamming, they do not. A simple Eliminator in a L4 mission must have a **ing high ass jam strength. Was unable to counter it with over 100 strength to counter...WTF kind of ** are you pulling here?!?! You're simply wasting you breath lying to us out here. You guys still suck.
Garrmor	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:47:00 - [96] I got it in one EPIC FAIL...
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.07 00:56:00 - [97] Ok, just had another bizarre encounter with the character creator. After spending about an hour and a half changing things (mostly slight, but the application was so slow on her Mac that it likely took 5 times longer than it should have) my lady had a strange thing happen. She toggled the clothes off, and when she toggled them back on again the clothes weren't at all what was on there before, went back to a default I guess. Then she toggled off and on again and this time the textures went crazy. They were flashing from one crazy mesh of color to the next...kind of psychedelic, actually. I took some video on my phone if you want to see it. She went to the portrait screen, same thing (more cool video). Eventually she had to just shut the client off and log back in (she didn't particularly want a psychedelic colored face for her character). Another came up as I was typing: now that she's in the game, it's stuttering and slowing down and temporarily freezing. It works fine for a bit, then does it again. Back to the station... ~Gnosis~
Nadja Dobrovodsky	Posted - 2011.04.07 01:07:00 - [98] when im mining and i stop the miningprocess on one of the lasers. it turns red but it doesnt stop and wontlet me change asteroid.
Tuggboat Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.07 01:12:00 - [99] All I get when I boot is a several gigabyte video of a bunch of drunken programmers pointing at me and laughing. I keep looking for a button that lets me slap them with a fish but can't find it.
Eike Stan Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe	Posted - 2011.04.07 01:24:00 - [100] Originally by: J Kunjeh Edited by: J Kunjeh on 07/04/2011 00:44:39 I had the module issue too...my laser finishis a complete cycle before stopping after being clicked, meanwhile the laser has stopped firing. I'm having the same issue. Apparently after clicking my Strip Miners to stop mining, the button keeps flashing red and its only click-able after the cycle finishes. Eike Stan

Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.07 01:27:00 - [101] bring back old Contract search window as a second TAB just for listing contracts. New one is great for searching for something particular, but sucks donkeys for listing
Vivian Vay	Posted - 2011.04.07 01:38:00 - [102] Edited by: Vivian Vay on 07/04/2011 01:46:00 CCP Exefile has stopped working error when saying yes to character customization fo rme. Have 12gb ram, 64 bit win 7, 2 gtx 470's. Problem signature: Problem Event Name:BEX Application Name:ExeFile.exe Application Version:6.43.24.4285 Application Timestamp:4d91b621 Fault Module Name:StackHash_0a9e Fault Module Version:0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp:00000000 Exception Offset:00000000 Exception Code:c0000005 Exception Data:00000008 OS Version:6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID:1033 Additional Information 1:0a9e Additional Information 2:0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3:0a9e Additional Information 4:0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 nvm....see this is already listed under known issues....and will be fixed tomorrow.
darklegionca Caldari Lonetrek Trade and Industries B.S.I.	Posted - 2011.04.07 01:49:00 - [103] auto pilot is broken it doesnt show you how many jumps or the nice lil blocks it used to whats up with that please put it back so i know where the eff im going Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
Nuneval	Posted - 2011.04.07 01:53:00 - [104] NPC Jamming is even worse. In missions such as Assault (level 4 guristas), packs with 5 jammers will chain jam a battleship for upwards of 2 minutes at a time. Certain NPCs (eleminators and exterminators in particular) will start the jam, then jump onto the chain after another ship hits me.
Kerr avonn Minmatar Standard By 10	Posted - 2011.04.07 02:06:00 - [105] Strip miners not working correctly. After shutting off the module the beam shuts off but the module stays active till the cycle completes, will this be addressed in the patch 1.4.1?? No problems with the NCC, would have liked layers for muliple scars etc though
Budsin Adar	Posted - 2011.04.07 02:27:00 - [106] Moving stuff from a can in dock to sell it some how got lost. what a nice fix there. the go-furs ate it. thats a bad spelling on purpose
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.04.07 02:37:00 - [107] Work all day, (gotta pay my EVE bill), get home, start up EVE, think differently. Read the forums and thankful the game even boots up. Patch announcement depresses me, patch dayS depress me, patch results depress me. Why do I do this again? Well one surprise, a new low is possible.... good thing this isn't a professional app, cause it certainly doesn't meet the standards.
Ellie Aroway Disturbed Capsuleers	Posted - 2011.04.07 02:37:00 - [108] can not upload fittings to server. Same scenario as already stated earlier in the thread, pressing the ok button for all it's worth does not help. I dont have the luxury of logging onto another machine to try to upload my fittings on that one, so as it stands, unless I manually grab the xml's from my HDD and use 3rd party software to view the fits, I have NO ACCESS TO MY LOADOUTS WHATSOEVER. pls fix it asap.
Kalikrates	Posted - 2011.04.07 02:50:00 - [109] I appreciate all that ccp is doing and the work that goes into constantly updating this game. This said I would really appreciate some help as I am unable to install this latest patch as it claims I need 1 gb of space that I don't have while I actually have 1.63 (running mac if that makes a difference) thank you.
James Hawkins	Posted - 2011.04.07 03:00:00 - [110] Bull** patch Originally by:** pre-Dominion CCP We hope you better understand that our goal is to allow each solar system in null sec to have the potential to hold many more people per system in material resource terms (perhaps 50-100 when fully upgraded). As a result this will lead to the formation of micro-communities and diversity of life in each colony in effect and null sec being able to hold many more people which leads to a much more interesting political scene and ensuing drama. Coupled with this focus on allowing you to upgrade the solar systems material resources, we are looking to reduce the value of in particular dysprosium and promethium moons through changes to Tech II production so alliances are once more reliant on more traditional income diffuse revenue streams and encouraged to recruit members and form treaties or hold less space. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=703 you dont know what you want and you dont actually know the game at all and you actually wasted one full expansion on stuff your taking back atm (dont) fly safe

electrostatus Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.04.07 03:06:00 - [111] Is there a torrent for this really large patch? There's no way I can download it all at once. ― Vexo M > He turned the drives up to 11
Optional Patch	Posted - 2011.04.07 03:27:00 - [112] The fail, it hurts
Verlaine Glariant Amphysvena	Posted - 2011.04.07 03:33:00 - [113] This is a 700mb update. Obviousle Cpt. Headquarters files are there, but can't be used yet. Why did you make us download those files if we're not getting Cpt. HQ until summer? Amphysvena Corporation www.amphysvena.org
Kalikrates	Posted - 2011.04.07 03:50:00 - [114] Actually I am still unable to download this despite clearing 2 gb of data from my startup disk it still claims I don't have room wtf?!
Friday's Child	Posted - 2011.04.07 03:52:00 - [115] The character generator has slowed down dramatically. I now have 5-6 second delays after many operations (such as selecting a hair style, or adjusting a facial characteristic) which, just yesterday, used to happen almost as fast as I could click. As it happens, I have an open character slot, and I play around with the character generator a lot... I'm sad about the slowdown, because it used to be fun, but now it's an exercise in frustration.
Syri Taneka The Perfect Storm	Posted - 2011.04.07 04:11:00 - [116] On the new piercings/scars/tats: Firstly, I'd like to say that I love what's been done. I have a few nitpicks, however. 1) I don't seem to be able to mirror piercings done in the upper ear. I would like to be able to do that = P 2) Player-selectable color choices for the piercings. Just about anything can be anodized with a color coat these days. 3) Scar coloration. I noticed many of them show up poorly on fair skin (which is what my char has) because they are the healed-up white kind. Barring the fact that clones would come out without scars and any scars shown should be fairly fresh, I'd like to be able to adorn my char with fresh-looking, angry red/reddish scars, or at least more intense, more visible white ones. 4) More variation in tat colors. Say, something along the lines of the hair color palette? -------------------------------------- Bishop Endarr > christ, the church is a massive smack machine
kylia maleus	Posted - 2011.04.07 04:12:00 - [117] major issue; miner modules have to wait for cycle to complete inorder to activate again this will suck because if u use a survey scanner and find out that T2 strip miner is mining a roid with 5 in it (for example azure plag) u have to wait 2 minutes for that 5 because of the activation glitch wasting 2 mins when it could be a 1 second thing. And what if one activates it on the wrong roid? then u are out again. Didn't think that one through but I only know my side of the story.
Soldarius Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.07 04:14:00 - [118] Originally by: JimboDeath òNPC jamming has been updated and streamlined. They should all work with the same functionality and you can fit countermeasures. In other news, jamming NPCs are still annoying Guess what CCP, you got this wrong as well. If your intent was to allow mods to counter NPC jamming, they do not. A simple Eliminator in a L4 mission must have a **ing high ass jam strength. Was unable to counter it with over 100 strength to counter...WTF kind of are you pulling here?!?! You're simply wasting you breath lying to us out here. You guys still suck. An Eliminator is based on the Scorpion hull. What do you expect? No change here. Random number generator is random. Originally by:** Nuneval NPC Jamming is even worse. In missions such as Assault (level 4 guristas), packs with 5 jammers will chain jam a battleship for upwards of 2 minutes at a time. Certain NPCs (eleminators and exterminators in particular) will start the jam, then jump onto the chain after another ship hits me. Exactly how many ECM mods does each one of those rat ECM ships fit? An ECM ship can pretty much permajam any ship of its own size with 4 multispecs; and you're facing multiple ships? You're lucky you get to lock at all for any period of time. Solution: adapt and overcome. Bring FoF missiles or drones. Easy Button: Sold out! Originally by: CCP Shadow ...I cannot guarantee (my) sobriety or decency.
Der Valkirie	Posted - 2011.04.07 04:39:00 - [119] Originally by: Crunchmeister Edited by: Crunchmeister on 06/04/2011 23:23:20 Originally by: Der Valkirie Love the CCP attitude, too many complaints then simply shutdown the thread. All I can say about Incursion is BFD. Not the first time stuff like that happened. CCP were claiming "overwhelming support" for their 0.0 nerf, yet when the overwhelming negative support on the Facebook post was put forward, posts against the nerf magically started disappearing. About 1/2 the thread got deleted post by post only leaving the comments that supported it. Eventually, they just deleted the post because they couldn't keep up with the illusion people actually wanted this. . Originally by: Der Valkirie I wish they spent a little more time on really upgrading/updating the game/gameplay and less on silly character images. How about some REAL new ships/weapons/equipment? That's actually pretty backward. Generally in the programming world, you focus on fixing existing known issues and testing thoroughly to ensure the bugs have been squashed BEFORE adding new functionality or content to a piece of software. I'm a programmer (defence-related, not gaming), and if I rushed half-assed content like this out the door, I would have been fired a long time ago. How these bugs made it past your QA department is really beyond me. I do applaud the "little things" initiative though. It's definitely a step in the right direction. If the same approach could be taken to other aspects of Eve it would save a lot of hassles. Oh well. We get another wonderful extended downtime tomorrow. I have a feeling this will be much like back a few months ago where we have patches to apply on an almost daily basis.
Der Valkirie	Posted - 2011.04.07 04:43:00 - [120] I know the programming world fairly well but in the many years I have worked in programming I have never seen a company disguise patches as so called "upgrades". Originally by: Crunchmeister Edited by: Crunchmeister on 06/04/2011 23:23:20 Originally by: Der Valkirie Love the CCP attitude, too many complaints then simply shutdown the thread. All I can say about Incursion is BFD. Not the first time stuff like that happened. CCP were claiming "overwhelming support" for their 0.0 nerf, yet when the overwhelming negative support on the Facebook post was put forward, posts against the nerf magically started disappearing. About 1/2 the thread got deleted post by post only leaving the comments that supported it. Eventually, they just deleted the post because they couldn't keep up with the illusion people actually wanted this. . Originally by: Der Valkirie I wish they spent a little more time on really upgrading/updating the game/gameplay and less on silly character images. How about some REAL new ships/weapons/equipment? That's actually pretty backward. Generally in the programming world, you focus on fixing existing known issues and testing thoroughly to ensure the bugs have been squashed BEFORE adding new functionality or content to a piece of software. I'm a programmer (defence-related, not gaming), and if I rushed half-assed content like this out the door, I would have been fired a long time ago. How these bugs made it past your QA department is really beyond me. I do applaud the "little things" initiative though. It's definitely a step in the right direction. If the same approach could be taken to other aspects of Eve it would save a lot of hassles. Oh well. We get another wonderful extended downtime tomorrow. I have a feeling this will be much like back a few months ago where we have patches to apply on an almost daily basis.

Hunin Ravensong	Posted - 2011.04.07 04:51:00 - [121] Edited by: Hunin Ravensong on 07/04/2011 04:53:45 5 Kb - 16Kb a sec on a 700 meg patch, followed by another large patch the next day is rediculous. (My connection is at 1 MB/ sec, and shows less that 1% in use) Downloading the patch manually is also a failure, as it downlods at the same rediculously slow speed, only to fail due to a corrupted file. Perhaps since you guys at CCP could dedicate a little more bandwidth to the patch downloads? (Also I notice that glitchy patches never come out near the end of the month where people have gotten their moneys worth out of their subscription, but at the beginning so that CCP got paid for the month regardless of the customer's ability (or desire) to play the "patched" game) Corection - now it's only coming across at 300 BYTES a second - with 17 days left to download - this does not make me a happy player
Dana Bomfim Caldari Brasil Estrelar Mineradora Co.	Posted - 2011.04.07 04:57:00 - [122] Eletronic warfare seems to be an issue when people try to understand it, so it isnt worth answer a complaint about something working as it should be and people asking for "fix" to turn it wrong. I would be amazed if soon you would be able to counter a L4 mission with something you can pilot in 2 or 3 weeks given the needed learning time for most of other things. But there is something wrong about learning mechanics indeed. To be a fighter, you can just max up Willpower and Perception, cut off days of learning, and boom, in weeks you are piloting something worth (not to smash L4 missions with a not fighter ship, but still something amazing). On the other hand, industrial pilots cant max up because they still need willpower and Perception to train industrial ships in a fashinable way. No wonder why most people are fixed in combat, and most new pilots give up industrial and go for fighting. And no wonder most people even give up fighting eletronic warfare and other logistics to simple fighting. It is a longer and complex way to achieve other goals than simply guns and battle ships. If you go to the stats about ships being used, training and so on, you see that many people complain about EW, tell CCP have to change this or that, but a few people actually pilot that kind of ship, or train the right skills to do that properly. It is not enough to train the prereqs for EW modules, fit them and expect optimal results. As for guns, and all in EVE, optimal results come from other skills than the prereqs.
Frenis Tiwara	Posted - 2011.04.07 05:00:00 - [123] The new selected item window is a little weird for my liking. The portrait of the ship/item in selected is now too small to see very clearly, especially on larger resolutions. An option to turn off the character portraits would be immensely nice too, as it really provides nothing in terms of gameplay other than something else in the way of a streamlined UI. (I know the purpose is to get use out of the new portraits, especially with the upcoming focus on them in Incarna, but still...)
Dana Bomfim Caldari Brasil Estrelar Mineradora Co.	Posted - 2011.04.07 05:01:00 - [124] There is a simple solution: Go play browser games, quick downloads, crappy graphics and added to glitches of the client itself, you get the glitches from the OBJECT used to run the game, the browser itself, and the rendering from a browser window. Gotta be a little coherent on this one: Either you ask them to make better graphics, better performance and lots of features, or ask for a "couple mbs" game. You cant have both. Quick solution ? Go play farmville.
Karia Sur	Posted - 2011.04.07 05:12:00 - [125] Some of the problems caused by this patch just shows that CCP no longer test any patches. I accept that you cant allow for every single users set-up, but something like modules having to go through a complete cycle before stopping is down to incompetence not a users setup. You seriously are getting worse instead of better.
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.04.07 05:42:00 - [126] Originally by: Dana Bomfim There is a simple solution: Go play browser games, quick downloads, crappy graphics and added to glitches of the client itself, you get the glitches from the OBJECT used to run the game, the browser itself, and the rendering from a browser window. Gotta be a little coherent on this one: Either you ask them to make better graphics, better performance and lots of features, or ask for a "couple mbs" game. You cant have both. Quick solution ? Go play farmville. Not true -I field supported code much more massive than this heap and even major patches and upgrades were at most 200M - and that was with support across 4 different OS's. The size of this "patch" just exposes poor software implementation - no modularization. Also, the bug/error rate smells like rank spaghetti code. Both of these would make testing problematic, if not completely impossible to do adequately, much less thoroughly. Unfortunately it would take a year of recoding to fix such a mess and that's not possible when the marketing department controls the company. Marketing? Yeah, that's why you have broken, shiny new features all the time instead of dependable, clean interfaces.
Jitorius	Posted - 2011.04.07 05:48:00 - [127] Edited by: Jitorius on 07/04/2011 05:48:14
Jim Ned	Posted - 2011.04.07 06:16:00 - [128] I've logged on twice now with the new patch. Each time it takes less than 5 minutes from my client to become unresponsive. I am not in the character creation part either. One minute I am sitting in station. The next minute every thing stops moving and client is non-responsive.
Florestan Bronstein Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.04.07 06:18:00 - [129] Originally by: Mattias Kerensky Originally by: Charlotte Yakamoto The storing of fittings on the server does not work for me on this character. I get a popup asking me what fittings I wish to store on the server. Pressing the OK button however doesn't do anything, no matter if I have no fittings selected, all of them, or just a random selection. Also, emptying my fittings folder does not help, neither does clearing my cache. It works perfectly fine on another account using the same client however. I have this problem also, and it's INSANELY ANNOYING. Just saying. experiencing the same issue
Torothanax	Posted - 2011.04.07 06:58:00 - [130] Cool, tattoos. Can you add this one back in please?

Sai Hullud Gallente ACME Mining and Manufacturing Corp	Posted - 2011.04.07 07:33:00 - [131] Originally by: Ingvar Angst Apparently mining lasers complete a cycle now instead of turning off when you click them off. Yeah, I noticed the same problem... I like to cycle my lasers to make sure I'm not wasting my time mining an empty rock. I also noted that if you do turn them off durring a cycle you get no ore for that whole cycle, and if you warp to station without turning them off they continue to run during warp and report the laser failure after you leave the station again. and then there were none... ahhh, peace and quiet at last.
Agent Mayer	Posted - 2011.04.07 07:44:00 - [132] I try to make the contract by clicking the right button on the item, as i did before. The contract-window appeared, I filled all the fields, but i realised that contract was creating for the 'NONE'. I need to find this item in the list... It's rather inconvenient to find that item in the item-list in contract-window...
Vatueil	Posted - 2011.04.07 08:03:00 - [133] lol fail 2+ hours download on 24/8 mbps connection
Delta Bacat	Posted - 2011.04.07 08:07:00 - [134] Woohoo! My "Socket was closed" error is gone! (had that every time I tried to log in)
Samsaryo	Posted - 2011.04.07 08:14:00 - [135] I am almost sure that I'm the one who use the earliest Pc for EVE.. And you know what? So far everything goes- no errors-enough space ect. That's a statement for CCP
Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.07 09:23:00 - [136] I simply hate character picture loading in the overview when I click on a ship in space. As soon as my character's portraits get rendered on the server and my client picks them up, I'm blocking the image server.
Vatueil	Posted - 2011.04.07 09:25:00 - [137] seems to be up and running ..... but i'll tell you, old people f&^K faster....
Magnus Witchspace	Posted - 2011.04.07 09:30:00 - [138] Edited by: Magnus Witchspace on 07/04/2011 09:30:24 Originally by: Samsaryo I am almost sure that I'm the one who use the earliest Pc for EVE.. And you know what? So far everything goes- no errors-enough space ect. That's a statement for CCP Not quite sure what you're trying to say there, but dude, what happened to your face?
Magnus Witchspace	Posted - 2011.04.07 09:44:00 - [139] I might be a newbie to Eve, but I'm not a newbie to the principles of programming and life in general. I'm smiling as I write this, but I think this is the worst software release I have ever had the misfortune of being the victim of. There's so many introduced bugs that I fear the worst: No established software company fails to do the rudimentary testing that would have detected the bugs users have listed so far... So these can't be bugs... they must be intended 'features'! Nooooooooo!!!!!! CCP: Please tell me you just had an incompetent moment and you'll fix everything!
Vihura	Posted - 2011.04.07 09:44:00 - [140] Game take much longer to start, undock etc I have very fast SSD and before patch it was almost instant now its take abaut 5-10 more time.

Mina Alexandria Body Count Inc. Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.07 09:50:00 - [141] I've experienced two things. 1: When you are inside the map and rightclick a bookmark, there are two "remove bookmark" selections. 2: I got an escalation earlier last night, sent me 36 jumps away from my current position. (can't be right).
Rainus Max Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.07 09:52:00 - [142] Originally by: Magnus Witchspace I might be a newbie to Eve, but I'm not a newbie to the principles of programming and life in general. I'm smiling as I write this, but I think this is the worst software release I have ever had the misfortune of being the victim of. There's so many introduced bugs that I fear the worst: No established software company fails to do the rudimentary testing that would have detected the bugs users have listed so far... So these can't be bugs... they must be intended 'features'! Nooooooooo!!!!!! CCP: Please tell me you just had an incompetent moment and you'll fix everything! Given the size and complexity of Eve its bound to have a few bugs and to be honest most players accept that there will never be a 'perfect' patch. I think CCP said it, there is so much interconnectivity within Eve its physically impossible to test EVERY combination to check for every bug, they look at the most heavily used features and those that could cause a significant problem to things like the market. POSes, unfortunately, probably rank somewhere around the bottom of the barrel for checking given that they havent received love in erm..... well I've been playing 5 years and still havent seen any significant POS love. That being said this one does seam to have more 'generically visable' bugs in it but its far from the the worst. The Boot.ini patch and Dominion rank as probably some of the worst.
DAM1987	Posted - 2011.04.07 10:00:00 - [143] Originally by: Rainus Max Originally by: Magnus Witchspace I might be a newbie to Eve, but I'm not a newbie to the principles of programming and life in general. I'm smiling as I write this, but I think this is the worst software release I have ever had the misfortune of being the victim of. There's so many introduced bugs that I fear the worst: No established software company fails to do the rudimentary testing that would have detected the bugs users have listed so far... So these can't be bugs... they must be intended 'features'! Nooooooooo!!!!!! CCP: Please tell me you just had an incompetent moment and you'll fix everything! Given the size and complexity of Eve its bound to have a few bugs and to be honest most players accept that there will never be a 'perfect' patch. I think CCP said it, there is so much interconnectivity within Eve its physically impossible to test EVERY combination to check for every bug, they look at the most heavily used features and those that could cause a significant problem to things like the market. POSes, unfortunately, probably rank somewhere around the bottom of the barrel for checking given that they havent received love in erm..... well I've been playing 5 years and still havent seen any significant POS love. That being said this one does seam to have more 'generically visable' bugs in it but its far from the the worst. The Boot.ini patch and Dominion rank as probably some of the worst. i agree but they wont listin and alot of guys know it and bugs like ur mod still cycling after u jump is there and u do notice it rather fast. the fact they rolling it out over like 3 months coz x-ppl are dead is tarded coz ur gonna have this every patch day .. maby 1 huge update out at once n down half the day. insted of x amount of hours every couple of months. like old times would be better all out in 1 day
vagy	Posted - 2011.04.07 10:42:00 - [144] Well the tatoos look quite natural but the designs suck for the most part at least gallente and minmatar ones. Theres only one or two from each that are worth puting on.
LaneyLee Gallente The Warp Sect Deadly Unknown	Posted - 2011.04.07 10:51:00 - [145] OK mining laser thing annoyed me, but the thing that really ****ed me off would be apparently i can only have 1 ice harvester on my mack going, trying to turn the other one on doesn't work, says Ice Harvester I is already active, clearly it isn't, worked first load, docked emptied hold and then had this prob, docking didn't fix neither did reboot, harvesting ice with one mod is fekkin pointless!!
mei shelo	Posted - 2011.04.07 10:58:00 - [146] Seriously 15kb/sec download for a patch. I've checked it's not on my end. Can we maybe get a little bandwidth for the patch. I understand there will be bugs in every patch and they'll get them fixed, or at least playable asap, but that doesn't do any good if you have to wait 12 hours to even try see if the patch works.
Buzbee McClure	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:07:00 - [147] Here's the bee in my bonnet......Why oh why are CCP out to screw everyone over in null sec? Some of us made a lot of isk in sanctums and now the area in null that my mains are situated no longer have access to havens and sanctums ccp have right royally messed things up big time has anyone else noticed the major disaster they have inflicted on us?
Me Gusta	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:07:00 - [148] Originally by: mei shelo Seriously 15kb/sec download for a patch. I've checked it's not on my end. Can we maybe get a little bandwidth for the patch. I understand there will be bugs in every patch and they'll get them fixed, or at least playable asap, but that doesn't do any good if you have to wait 12 hours to even try see if the patch works. Funny, I can download anything from CCP's servers at my connections max speed (2.1mb/s).
E'lisha	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:10:00 - [149] Edited by: E''lisha on 07/04/2011 11:10:42 Remote Invention/Copy Install still broken. Reported month ago but nothing happened. Sorry, but this Quote: The current work around is to setup the job like normal then select change blueprint and then select the blueprint again and it will install the job correctly. is not an acceptable solution. Please fix it!
Chou Saru Caldari Beyond Control. Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:12:00 - [150] The people that are complaining about the patch download time, the problem must be your end, me and a 3 people i know got 800+ kbs, downloaded and installed in under 30 minutes. As with the rest of the patch I've not had time to play much but i do have 2 complaints. 1) The saved Fittings, i had 238 fittings, a fit for every ship i fly and for every sittuation, you expect me to live with just 50? that covers 2-3 ships for me :S 2) Another extended DT the next day to patch the patch from the previous day, can we expect one Friday as well? Other then that, Eve is still amazing :D

Thomas Coe	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:21:00 - [151] I want arm tattoos :)
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:28:00 - [152] Edited by: Saithe on 07/04/2011 11:30:30 Am I the one person smart enough to never have any problems whatsoever on patch day (or any other day)? -> Never a client error. -> Never a client crash. -> Never an install error. -> Never a glitch with settings. -> Never an accidentallied boot.ini file. -> Never, well, anything anyone ever cries about. Seriously, I feel as though I am the only person ever to never have a single problem with Eve. (notroll.) Edit- I have clear waypoints, my guns don't cycle for the 'extra cycle' people are talking about, I can use character re-customization, I know where my fittings are saved, I know where my overview settings are saved, none of this crap everyone complains about. My client works exactly as intended, no glitches or bugs.
opapiet I Heart Chaos Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:29:00 - [153] I know that 3D vision isnt supported by CCP yet. While nvidia is promoting eve online as a 3D vision supported game. But since the latest patch is deployed.... the eve online doesnt work anymore in 3D vision mode... it doesnt show the game in 3d and left glass is blinded. It worked great before (untill patch 1.3) and i realy like it a lot to play eve with 3d glasses on. I hope the eve graphics engine will be fixed. ------ its me
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:31:00 - [154] Edited by: Saithe on 07/04/2011 11:31:58 Originally by: opapiet I know that 3D vision isnt supported by CCP yet. While nvidia is promoting eve online as a 3D vision supported game. But since the latest patch is deployed.... the eve online doesnt work anymore in 3D vision mode... it doesnt show the game in 3d and left glass is blinded. It worked great before (untill patch 1.3) and i realy like it a lot to play eve with 3d glasses on. I hope the eve graphics engine will be fixed. Just get 3 screens. Or look up the Parallax mod.
Kabars Saint Industrial Services Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:33:00 - [155] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist I think the forums are angry at me.... I guess you really didn't look at the 100+ pages os complaints ob the patch for yesterday
Sanguine Belroth	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:37:00 - [156] Been 12 hours now - 18kb.sec. 60% done. What the hell is this? You guys want to get some sort of peer to peer file setup so we can process this in a timely manner? My skills are down on one account, and my industry needs doing. not cool
Enigma Flux Amarr Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:40:00 - [157] Originally by: Sanguine Belroth Been 12 hours now - 18kb.sec. 60% done. What the hell is this? You guys want to get some sort of peer to peer file setup so we can process this in a timely manner? My skills are down on one account, and my industry needs doing. not cool Yeah I lost a whole day yesterday with the download, UK broadband sucks but that isnt CCP's fault, just wondering how long this new patch will take to DL :(
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:41:00 - [158] Originally by: Sanguine Belroth Been 12 hours now - 18kb.sec. 60% done. What the hell is this? You guys want to get some sort of peer to peer file setup so we can process this in a timely manner? My skills are down on one account, and my industry needs doing. not cool If you want ill download it and place it on a web-server i have, download speed is usually around 10mb/s
mei shelo	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:43:00 - [159] anything would be better than this. i'm not on UK broadband and it's only 18kb/sec. And if it has to be on my end why then does everything else i tested on to make sure download just fine. It's only things from CCP that are crawling along
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:44:00 - [160] Originally by: mei shelo anything would be better than this. i'm not on UK broadband and it's only 18kb/sec. And if it has to be on my end why then does everything else i tested on to make sure download just fine. It's only things from CCP that are crawling along Im willing to help out with this if i can, post your version numbers and ill setup a few alternate download locations from my server

Zey Nadar Gallente Unknown Soldiers Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:46:00 - [161] I approve of the squad commander change and character recustomization. :) I don't approve of the anomaly changes :( I hope the pos bugs are getting fixed also.
AKTOK	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:46:00 - [162] upto press no problems, even looks like im lag free, for those of us who have never suffered LAG, or crashing or freezing up well done you, ive played ping pong and just about everything else, but the best as got to be, jumping into high from low in a hurry, and at gate you get, session in progress, session in progress, session in progress, JUMP THE ****ING GATE ALREADY, MOVETH MY SHIPETH OUTETH ARMS REACH,and of course if ya loose ship, its noones fault
Enigma Flux Amarr Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:46:00 - [163] Originally by: gintaru Originally by: mei shelo anything would be better than this. i'm not on UK broadband and it's only 18kb/sec. And if it has to be on my end why then does everything else i tested on to make sure download just fine. It's only things from CCP that are crawling along Im willing to help out with this if i can, post your version numbers and ill setup a few alternate download locations from my server Wow mate thats awesome but im computer illiterate, what version numbers would those be?
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:47:00 - [164] Originally by: Enigma Flux Originally by: gintaru Originally by: mei shelo anything would be better than this. i'm not on UK broadband and it's only 18kb/sec. And if it has to be on my end why then does everything else i tested on to make sure download just fine. It's only things from CCP that are crawling along Im willing to help out with this if i can, post your version numbers and ill setup a few alternate download locations from my server Wow mate thats awesome but im computer illiterate, what version numbers would those be? When last did you play eve? Just before yesterdays patch?
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:49:00 - [165] Edited by: Saithe on 07/04/2011 11:49:23 Originally by: Enigma Flux Originally by: gintaru Originally by: mei shelo anything would be better than this. i'm not on UK broadband and it's only 18kb/sec. And if it has to be on my end why then does everything else i tested on to make sure download just fine. It's only things from CCP that are crawling along Im willing to help out with this if i can, post your version numbers and ill setup a few alternate download locations from my server Wow mate thats awesome but im computer illiterate, what version numbers would those be? load eve -> upper left hand corner. the last set should be 246350
AKTOK	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:49:00 - [166] just a add on, theyve stopped my eyes from being all white, i think theres bigger issues to sort dont you
Enigma Flux Amarr Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:50:00 - [167] Originally by: gintaru Originally by: Enigma Flux Originally by: gintaru Originally by: mei shelo anything would be better than this. i'm not on UK broadband and it's only 18kb/sec. And if it has to be on my end why then does everything else i tested on to make sure download just fine. It's only things from CCP that are crawling along Im willing to help out with this if i can, post your version numbers and ill setup a few alternate download locations from my server Wow mate thats awesome but im computer illiterate, what version numbers would those be? When last did you play eve? Just before yesterdays patch? Was in station this morning after managing the mass DL
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:51:00 - [168] Originally by: AKTOK just a add on, theyve stopped my eyes from being all white, i think theres bigger issues to sort dont you This is an extended downtime to deploy a patch to fix an issue SOME users have when using the new character creator. And by some I'd be willing to bet its 10 or so new carebear type people who use a Dell under the recommended specs for eve; then try to play it on max settings.
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:54:00 - [169] Edited by: gintaru on 07/04/2011 11:55:58 http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch237081-246918_m.exe Yesterdays Patch (1.4 - 775mb) http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch246350-246918_m.exe Todays Patch (1.4.1 - 10.2mb) I will removing these Files in 24 hours, grab your DL
Kaivaja	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:54:00 - [170] It's nice that the new "give ISK" dialog window has portraits now, but the window has lost one important function: you can't right click the name of the receiver anymore to copy it. CCP, could you please re-add the "right click char name to copy it" functionality back to the dialog window? And while you are at it, could you add option to drag-n-drop the avatar to chat to link the person? Thx.

cooi	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:57:00 - [171] Patch day.No sanctums.No havens.No scan signatures.No sanctum,havens and signatures respawn.Higher game loading time.Mining lasers are broken. 16 hours dowtnime yday.2 hours downtime 2day.Then a patch to repair the patch of the patch of the patch of the patch to repair the f*****g patch of the patch. Until the last patch all the patches have been ok.Now a new patch is up with messed up entire game. So,ill be on some more to check out the next repair patch of the patch of the next patch. Happy patching.
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:57:00 - [172] Originally by: Enigma Flux Originally by: gintaru Originally by: mei shelo anything would be better than this. i'm not on UK broadband and it's only 18kb/sec. And if it has to be on my end why then does everything else i tested on to make sure download just fine. It's only things from CCP that are crawling along Im willing to help out with this if i can, post your version numbers and ill setup a few alternate download locations from my server Wow mate thats awesome but im computer illiterate, what version numbers would those be? Let me know if my post above helps you please (that way i can help in the future again)
Cade Talos	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:57:00 - [173] Originally by: Saithe -> Never a client error. -> Never a client crash. -> Never an install error. -> Never a glitch with settings. -> Never an accidentallied boot.ini file. -> Never, well, anything anyone ever cries about. im sure i saw these bullet points in a flash banner once
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:58:00 - [174] Originally by: cooi Patch day.No sanctums.No havens.No scan signatures.No sanctum,havens and signatures respawn.Higher game loading time.Mining lasers are broken. 16 hours dowtnime yday.2 hours downtime 2day.Then a patch to repair the patch of the patch of the patch of the patch to repair the f*****g patch of the patch. Until the last patch all the patches have been ok.Now a new patch is up with messed up entire game. So,ill be on some more to check out the next repair patch of the patch of the next patch. Happy patching. Hi, you must be new here. Apparently you missed RMR release and Trinity release.
Matrix Blackstar	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:59:00 - [175] I hope someone took the time to correct the problem with the Strip Mining and Ice Harvester lasers not shutting down after they have been turned off. Ice miners shouldn't have to wait 6 minutes for the cycle to complete to restart their lasers. It costs us time and money....
The Lab'Rat Gallente Laggy Industries	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:59:00 - [176] I read in the "Little Things" section, at the bottom for next patch was this: "That's what we have for you this time around. We have a few special things in the works (one of which starts with "b" and ends with "lueprint") , so stay tuned for the next update." Imagine this scenario: Its late, you have been doing missions all day. your tired. you have dropped all your loot in your hanger. you select all to reprocess.... next thing you know, you have reprocessed the 2 GFC's that hold your BPO's and BPC's... If you have 2000 BPO's and a ton more of BPC's, its a real pain to tell them apart. PLEASE FIX THIS give BPC's a little red or yellow triangle in the top right of the BPC, and leave the BPO alone.
Enigma Flux Amarr Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:59:00 - [177] yes I have Version 246350
Bebelusha	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:00:00 - [178] Edited by: Bebelusha on 07/04/2011 12:01:41
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:01:00 - [179] Originally by: Enigma Flux yes I have Version 246350 then you need http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch246350-246918_m.exe Todays Patch (1.4.1 - 10.2mb)
Enigma Flux Amarr Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:02:00 - [180] Originally by: gintaru Edited by: gintaru on 07/04/2011 11:55:58 http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch237081-246918_m.exe Yesterdays Patch (1.4 - 775mb) http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch246350-246918_m.exe Todays Patch (1.4.1 - 10.2mb) I will removing these Files in 24 hours, grab your DL Awesome mate thanks!!!! Isk donation will be forthcoming

gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:03:00 - [181] Originally by: Enigma Flux Originally by: gintaru Edited by: gintaru on 07/04/2011 11:55:58 http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch237081-246918_m.exe Yesterdays Patch (1.4 - 775mb) http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch246350-246918_m.exe Todays Patch (1.4.1 - 10.2mb) I will removing these Files in 24 hours, grab your DL Awesome mate thanks!!!! Isk donation will be forthcoming Not needed as im doing this mainly to help fellow players, but would be highly appreciated :)
cooi	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:05:00 - [182] Originally by: Saithe Originally by: cooi Patch day.No sanctums.No havens.No scan signatures.No sanctum,havens and signatures respawn.Higher game loading time.Mining lasers are broken. 16 hours dowtnime yday.2 hours downtime 2day.Then a patch to repair the patch of the patch of the patch of the patch to repair the f*****g patch of the patch. Until the last patch all the patches have been ok.Now a new patch is up with messed up entire game. So,ill be on some more to check out the next repair patch of the patch of the next patch. Happy patching. Hi, you must be new here. Apparently you missed RMR release and Trinity release. Im not new and when they applied trinity and so on i said that there was a good job.Only this time i dont think it is a good job and i say it is not a good job.Do you think differently?Or maybe you have just not lost enough to get you to type here your complaints.
Kittens Bumholes	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:05:00 - [183] Excuse me, is this where we come to ***** about downtime, nullsec tossers and carebears? Just want to make sure I'm standing in the right queue, thanks.
Narisa Bithon Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:06:00 - [184] Originally by: Saithe Edited by: Saithe on 07/04/2011 11:30:30 Am I the one person smart enough to never have any problems whatsoever on patch day (or any other day)? -> Never a client error. -> Never a client crash. -> Never an install error. -> Never a glitch with settings. -> Never an accidentallied boot.ini file. -> Never, well, anything anyone ever cries about. Seriously, I feel as though I am the only person ever to never have a single problem with Eve. (notroll.) Edit- I have clear waypoints, my guns don't cycle for the 'extra cycle' people are talking about, I can use character re-customization, I know where my fittings are saved, I know where my overview settings are saved, none of this crap everyone complains about. My client works exactly as intended, no glitches or bugs. i rarely get issues either...one pc never had any issues the other one once but it turned out to be a bad directx install usually crc errors in the downloaded file are caused by crappy isps or crappy wifi routers that have high data packet loss rates resulting in missing bits of a file and thus a failed checksum.
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:06:00 - [185] Edited by: Saithe on 07/04/2011 12:06:27 Originally by: The Lab'Rat I read in the "Little Things" section, at the bottom for next patch was this: "That's what we have for you this time around. We have a few special things in the works (one of which starts with "b" and ends with "lueprint") , so stay tuned for the next update." Imagine this scenario: Its late, you have been doing missions all day. your tired. you have dropped all your loot in your hanger. you select all to reprocess.... next thing you know, you have reprocessed the 2 GFC's that hold your BPO's and BPC's... If you have 2000 BPO's and a ton more of BPC's, its a real pain to tell them apart. PLEASE FIX THIS give BPC's a little red or yellow triangle in the top right of the BPC, and leave the BPO alone. Hi there, you must be new here. Apparently you missed the devblog about this, and the following threads.
Debbie Does Dallas	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:08:00 - [186] yay i'm back online now that was quick and i seem to have the place to myself :) where's the roids nom nom
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:09:00 - [187] Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas yay i'm back online now that was quick and i seem to have the place to myself :) where's the roids nom nom Dallas misses you.
Enigma Flux Amarr Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:09:00 - [188] Originally by: gintaru Originally by: Enigma Flux Originally by: gintaru Edited by: gintaru on 07/04/2011 11:55:58 http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch237081-246918_m.exe Yesterdays Patch (1.4 - 775mb) http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch246350-246918_m.exe Todays Patch (1.4.1 - 10.2mb) I will removing these Files in 24 hours, grab your DL Awesome mate thanks!!!! Isk donation will be forthcoming Not needed as im doing this mainly to help fellow players, but would be highly appreciated :) No mate your a life saver, all downloaded just waiting for server up, thanks again
Debbie Does Dallas	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:10:00 - [189] Originally by: Saithe Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas yay i'm back online now that was quick and i seem to have the place to myself :) where's the roids nom nom Dallas misses you. Dallas got me square on the cheek last time :)
B111ELF111	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:11:00 - [190] ...and again we are sitting in front of our computers waiting to use a product we pay for... CCP programmers should implement some offline stuff like pve in one single system in the client for the upcoming downtimes

gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:12:00 - [191] Originally by: Enigma Flux Originally by: gintaru Originally by: Enigma Flux Originally by: gintaru Edited by: gintaru on 07/04/2011 11:55:58 http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch237081-246918_m.exe Yesterdays Patch (1.4 - 775mb) http://www.rikoshay.nl/EveDownloadHelper/evepremiumpatch246350-246918_m.exe Todays Patch (1.4.1 - 10.2mb) I will removing these Files in 24 hours, grab your DL Awesome mate thanks!!!! Isk donation will be forthcoming Not needed as im doing this mainly to help fellow players, but would be highly appreciated :) No mate your a life saver, all downloaded just waiting for server up, thanks again No problem, now that i know it helps ill do it in the future again, Feel free to contact me (email is at the bottom) in the future if you have Download issues with eve patches and ill do the same thing then
Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:13:00 - [192] 130 Monkeys on typewriters.....
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:13:00 - [193] Originally by: Narisa Bithon Originally by: Saithe Edited by: Saithe on 07/04/2011 11:30:30 Am I the one person smart enough to never have any problems whatsoever on patch day (or any other day)? -> Never a client error. -> Never a client crash. -> Never an install error. -> Never a glitch with settings. -> Never an accidentallied boot.ini file. -> Never, well, anything anyone ever cries about. Seriously, I feel as though I am the only person ever to never have a single problem with Eve. (notroll.) Edit- I have clear waypoints, my guns don't cycle for the 'extra cycle' people are talking about, I can use character re-customization, I know where my fittings are saved, I know where my overview settings are saved, none of this crap everyone complains about. My client works exactly as intended, no glitches or bugs. i rarely get issues either...one pc never had any issues the other one once but it turned out to be a bad directx install usually crc errors in the downloaded file are caused by crappy isps or crappy wifi routers that have high data packet loss rates resulting in missing bits of a file and thus a failed checksum. 99.9% of all errors with anything usually fall under the PEBKA-C category, or even sometimes the ID-tenT Error. Usually things like you mentioned; Bad wireless connection, Bad ISP, Bad Router, Improper drivers, Overloading your system settings, Not properly optimizing your OS, etc. etc. So many things that cause so many problems can be solved with the click of a delete button on a specific folder.
Apocalypse Solar Caldari Nova Solar Industries Inc.	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:13:00 - [194] Originally by: Fennore When you launch the eve client now there is a more noticeable wait till the log screen. Just before the log screen appears them screen seams to cycle (flash) about 5 times. This has appeared on all accounts and 3 computers, and repeats ever time you launch the program. After it's running everything goes as usual. Same for me too ... Opening EVE in full screen mode with the 1.41 patch now causes a slightly longer loading time and a few seconds of "screen flicker" which looks very out of place.
Ploppy McPlop	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:13:00 - [195] Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas Originally by: Saithe Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas yay i'm back online now that was quick and i seem to have the place to myself :) where's the roids nom nom Dallas misses you. Dallas got me square on the cheek last time :) Corben Dallas?
The Lab'Rat Gallente Laggy Industries	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:17:00 - [196] Originally by: Saithe Edited by: Saithe on 07/04/2011 12:06:27 Originally by: The Lab'Rat Hi there, you must be new here. Apparently you missed the devblog about this, and the following threads. No, not new. been here since 2004. i read all that stuff back in 2008-2009. its now year 2011 if you haven't noticed, and still no change in distinguishing between a BPO and a BPC.
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:20:00 - [197] Originally by: The Lab'Rat Originally by: Saithe Edited by: Saithe on 07/04/2011 12:06:27 Originally by: The Lab'Rat Hi there, you must be new here. Apparently you missed the devblog about this, and the following threads. No, not new. been here since 2004. i read all that stuff back in 2008-2009. its now year 2011 if you haven't noticed, and still no change in distinguishing between a BPO and a BPC. They just recently switched to a x64 architecture on the database. They have been talking about "WIS" since 2004/2005. DUST 514 was announced in 2006 if I recall. IF a blueprint change happens, it'll be soon(tm). Just remember there are things CCP cannot modify not because they don't want to; but because the code is lost. Billboards, for example.
Lt Franklin	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:20:00 - [198] Can't say im too happy with the cycle contiuing on mining modules. Now to clear a belt out takes ages. If you use a scanner and spot what is left on a Asteroid you could apprximate how much of a turn on a mining module was needed to finish it up with out wasting time. so a strip miner can do lets say 1,100 m3 and there is a roid with 500 units of vedpspa left 50 m3 (if i got the math right) now you have to waste a whole 3 min cycle to collect a small amount also if you click the wrong module with a mining crystal on to the wrong rock you not cant just change it. I think this now sucks your comments please.....
Rainha Silver Horse	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:21:00 - [199] Edited by: Rainha on 07/04/2011 12:24:09 Originally by: CCP Punkturis Originally by: Arra Lith Edited by: Arra Lith on 06/04/2011 19:47:17 With many waypoints (when scroll appears) it is not possible to move waypoint to bottom (to make it final destination point from waypoint): - when dragging till end nothing happens - you can move it only to 1 before last - when clicking 'Set destination' error is reveived: "Can't set waypoint to same location twice" Also I dont see "clear all waypoints" option as well - there is only "Optimize" button. You can delete waypoints only 1 by 1. And last thing: scrolling is not working while dragging, so moving waypoints with long list is very inconvenient. This drag and drop functionality was added in Incursion 1.3 not this patch today, Incursions 1.4. - If you drag a waypoint to the empty space below the last one, it should be added to the end. - There was never a "Clear all waypoints" button in this window, you can do that by right clicking on the map or in space. - If you have that many waypoints so you can't see them all without a scroll, you'll have to resize your window to a larger size, and if that's not enough, you'll just have to move them about in a few goes. Where are you clicking "Set destination"? If you're doing it in the right click on an entry in the waypoints list, that's expected since it's already a destination. I play this game since 2006, almost every day, no stop. I usually like to set autopilot using the assets window or people and places. But sometimes I need to clean the autopilot path. Is there a way to do that without opening the map and using the laggy right-click menu? If there is a way, it does not seem to be intuitive... This is specially critical when you need to clean the AP path fast, but the last time you used the map you choose some weird view which takes several seconds to load... Edit: I know this forum thread is about patch, but since you talked about the map browser... if AP has to be improved, it would be a good time to.
Foundation One	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:21:00 - [200] I really don't want to spend money on a game i'm forced waiting to play every other day. I also do not like the way the client has been eating more and more memory on my computer from tyrannis on. If you're shooting to make a game that only works on latest issued hardware, i will be shootin for uninstall faster than concord bricking noobs.

Enigma Flux Amarr Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:21:00 - [201] Will do Gintaru thanks again mate
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:23:00 - [202] Edited by: gintaru on 07/04/2011 12:23:18 Originally by: Lt Franklin Can't say im too happy with the cycle contiuing on mining modules. Now to clear a belt out takes ages. If you use a scanner and spot what is left on a Asteroid you could apprximate how much of a turn on a mining module was needed to finish it up with out wasting time. so a strip miner can do lets say 1,100 m3 and there is a roid with 500 units of vedpspa left 50 m3 (if i got the math right) now you have to waste a whole 3 min cycle to collect a small amount also if you click the wrong module with a mining crystal on to the wrong rock you not cant just change it. I think this now sucks your comments please..... The only reason you complain is because it wasnt like that to start with ... if it was then you wouldnt have said jack now, however : http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493350 - Will most likely be fixed in 1.4.2 i suppose
Clamis	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:24:00 - [203] Yet again Europe gets it in the neck for extra downtimes. It would be a good idea to do them over a time when The US come online to play and let them get the hit for a change. Not happy. 6 accounts may be saying good bye at this rate.
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:27:00 - [204] GL finding an mmo that doesn't have the occasional problems like this.
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:28:00 - [205] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* GL finding an mmo that doesn't have the occasional problems like this. +1
Enigma Flux Amarr Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:29:00 - [206] Come on guys calm down, you have all been playing for years, we all have and these same issues come up every Patch day and we moan and complain and then we go back to playing EvE and forget it all until the next patch day, sit it out, do the time and when servers are up go do what you do and be happy, CCP does what it can to make things easier, yes more feedback would be good whilst these patches are happening and I saw someone suggest a sep sever with PVE avalible which would be awesome. Just be paitent guys and all will be well and we can all go back to forgetting RL
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:30:00 - [207] Originally by: Clamis Yet again Europe gets it in the neck for extra downtimes. It would be a good idea to do them over a time when The US come online to play and let them get the hit for a change. Not happy. 6 accounts may be saying good bye at this rate. Hi there, you must be new here. Apparently you missed the RMR Patch Releases when they released a patch during each players timezone. 11am GMT happens to be the best time for a few reasons: -> GMT Lunch Time -> US Sleeping/Just waking up. -> AU Going to bed. -> Noone cares about EU.
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:32:00 - [208] I came to this game from WoW about a week or so ago and have been enjoying the hell out of it. If you think these issues are ANYTHING compared to what goes wrong on Blizzard's watch you are out of your minds. Seriously. Go play wow for a year or two and you'll learn what bad service really looks like.
Clamis	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:32:00 - [209] True Enigma Flux, I was just venting, sorry all. I have not vented on here about eve before and my main has been playing eve since mid 2004. But I still think its time for a change for Downtime to move to a new time slot for a while, just for a change for people.
fo0kaMiimi	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:34:00 - [210] Fixed lag bug yet? Maybe its some kinda joke... "we'll make them pay, then a few months after give them crappy connection" Now I can't play. If I warp into a belt or open market game restarts from lag/connection lost.

gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:34:00 - [211] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* I came to this game from WoW about a week or so ago and have been enjoying the hell out of it. If you think these issues are ANYTHING compared to what goes wrong on Blizzard's watch you are out of your minds. Seriously. Go play wow for a year or two and you'll learn what bad service really looks like. Well i moved from wow after 4 years of it... Blizzard does patching more efficiently - Great test environment which all bugs are squashed before released... Its nowhere near as much of a hassle as eve, so i have to disagree with you. However You also pay for every bloody expansion... Which is not the same with Eve.
HaKyung	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:35:00 - [212] Originally by: Clamis Yet again Europe gets it in the neck for extra downtimes. It would be a good idea to do them over a time when The US come online to play and let them get the hit for a change. Not happy. 6 accounts may be saying good bye at this rate. If you're working 11am is actually a good time to do it. Typically I'd be in work now but have a few days off, for this reason alone the downtime is annoying me but it's not like I don't have other things to do. Chill. it'll be back up and running soon enough
Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:35:00 - [213] Originally by: Saithe Originally by: Clamis Yet again Europe gets it in the neck for extra downtimes. It would be a good idea to do them over a time when The US come online to play and let them get the hit for a change. Not happy. 6 accounts may be saying good bye at this rate. Hi there, you must be new here. Apparently you missed the RMR Patch Releases when they released a patch during each players timezone. 11am GMT happens to be the best time for a few reasons: -> GMT Lunch Time -> US Sleeping/Just waking up. -> AU Going to bed. -> Noone cares about EU. True that, no1 cares about EU. +10
72inches	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:37:00 - [214] Originally by: B111ELF111 ...and again we are sitting in front of our computers waiting to use a product we pay for... CCP programmers should implement some offline stuff like pve in one single system in the client for the upcoming downtimes ^this. If EVE could be extended to include an offline mode while updates/servers are sorting themselves out...you would have a heck of alot less upset mineral tossers and redX pilots. TBH, not sure if there is a way any type of pilot couldn't be somehow satisfied [read patronized] in a quasi-EVE universe for offline periods. And I would put a priority on the phasing in of this component in a higher position than say the character editor but what do I know. Fantastic game overall, as we all know. Talk about extending the persistent nature of the EVE universe tho with an offline mod... Anyway I'm sure it's been considered, I'm quite sure it'd be a massive achievement to make it happen- but if it was easy there'd be a lot of scifi EVE games
Clamis	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:38:00 - [215] HaKyung :- Not everyone works. I did until 3 years ago when my life changed by a motor bike accident, so you can not use that as a excuse. Lol but its all good, nice to see some americans biting at the bit :)
HaKyung	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:39:00 - [216] Originally by: Clamis HaKyung :- Not everyone works. I did until 3 years ago when my life changed by a motor bike accident, so you can not use that as a excuse. Lol but its all good, nice to see some americans biting at the bit :) Hence my use of the word if Sorry to hear about your accident though. And LOL at those who don't care about Europe. The feelings mutual
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:44:00 - [217] Originally by: gintaru Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* I came to this game from WoW about a week or so ago and have been enjoying the hell out of it. If you think these issues are ANYTHING compared to what goes wrong on Blizzard's watch you are out of your minds. Seriously. Go play wow for a year or two and you'll learn what bad service really looks like. Well i moved from wow after 4 years of it... Blizzard does patching more efficiently - Great test environment which all bugs are squashed before released... Its nowhere near as much of a hassle as eve, so i have to disagree with you. However You also pay for every bloody expansion... Which is not the same with Eve. Surely you jest.
ZaBob	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:44:00 - [218] Originally by: Holy One Edited by: Holy One on 06/04/2011 20:26:14 Edited by: Holy One on 06/04/2011 20:25:27 Cant import 1000000 units of ionic solutions in to an empty launchpad (10, 000 m3 capacity or 1m ionic solutions) like usual. says there isnt enough space. I notice someone else is having container issues. you broke some mathskis? n/m. I tried it 6 times and refused then left it 5 mins and tried again and it went through. weird. w/e This is not a new problem -- it's been there a long time. Sometimes it just refuses to fit that last item into that spaceport. It's annoying, especially when you're sitting uncloaked and exposed in hostile territory, and what should be a trivial transfer becomes this process of retry or reconfigure. Between transfers between launchpads and transfers from Customs to Launchpad, in one case it figures out to leave one behind, and one it just fails.
Aku Soma	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:48:00 - [219] Originally by: Captain Charismatic Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:32:07 Originally by: Ban Doga If your disk is full and it's the only one you have and you want to install something new you need to make room first. That's really not rocket sience... I'm not saying it is. That isn't my point. Please don't interpret me wrong. My point is that a small error such as this, that would be handled on other installers as "O snap, you have no space, make room, rolling back changes", here, results in a half ass patch, where the client version logs are updated, but the material is not. Then, when you try to launch, you obviously get a client crash. You can't use the ~770MB update file because the file believes your client is updated due to those version logs. It then forces you to use the repair tool, which downloads the missing data THAT YOU ALREADY DOWNLOADED IN THE PATCH, again, but this time unpacked, totaling over a gig. That is ******ed. There is so much wrong and just unobserved with the way the patching utilities handle errors that it's just... surprising. That said, I'm gonna go play my EVE now. :D I see both points, and can attest that the installer does have some issues, but rollback capabilities may not be present because of the size of the game. To do rollbacks it must first backup the current data, which assumes you have space to do so. It could ask you if you do and proceed if ok - that should handle scenarios where one doesn't have the space, and those that do. There may be others in this boat, but I have over 2T of space on my games drive, and the installer always fails with insufficient space. This is not on my C drive which also has several gigs of space and can easily handle the space requirements of the update. So what has insufficient space? Why fail to install if the space check fails instead of asking the user should it continue, and proceeding if ok? Well, the repair tool is all I have to fall back on in these instances, and it will then proceed to download several gigs of data often re-downloading what has already been, just to update the game. Multiply this by the number of clients you run and that = the bother of the process. In the repair case, EvE currently sits at 7.81GB in size, to enable rollback it must eiter blanket backup everything, or if a manifest is available, just the files that are to change or be deleted; it can be a massive job and a bit longer process. So it's six on one hand, a half dozen in the other: Do the backup process and the extra work always. Or Do the extra on exception and hope that the installer works as is. Option B, which is the current scenario, is what CCP seems to have opted for. Is it a design flaw? Not really. Can it be better? Sure. Taking a absolutest stance that CCP is deliberately not doing right by you, in the way of design or process is a bit much; however, I understand your points. In my case, I have more than enough space, it seems too much space. Some added intelligence to the installer to better handle the storage arrangements for the game may be in order, and is not asking too much. Today we have single drive units at 3TB in capacity, SSD drives as C, etc., etc. The dynamic that C: (windows users) is the primary storage volume is now the exception, not the norm, especially true for the gaming community. It has been replaced long ago with a paradigm of fast, high capacity drives, raid arrays, SSDs, and multi-volume layouts. Installer apps must consider this to be ultimately effective, and it is a reasonable expectation that they do. I reckon if folks presented CCP with the issues and at least a reasonable solution (just to help CCP out you see) vs coming at them angry and without a solution, (and you know who you are ), then the odds of it getting "fixed" are a bit higher. Sometimes the squeaky wheel doesn't get the oil, it gets replaced, or ignored completely.
mercury V	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:48:00 - [220] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Originally by: Rasz Lin there are 3 issues threads made by 2 GMs, and you still failed to link to any of them, n1 :D I think the forums are angry at me.... were not mad at you we want to hang the ccp joker that did 2 extended downtime 2 days in a row... i didnt subscribe to a game that i cant play when i want 2 this is day 2 of extended down time during peak hours and i cant play $^%&%%%$ $^$&#%%$$% $%$^ ****^#%^&& you ccp i will not be renewing my subscription as ccp owes me play time i didnt get ..bunch of ice hole thieves

Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:51:00 - [221] Originally by: mercury V Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Originally by: Rasz Lin there are 3 issues threads made by 2 GMs, and you still failed to link to any of them, n1 :D I think the forums are angry at me.... were not mad at you we want to hang the ccp joker that did 2 extended downtime 2 days in a row... i didnt subscribe to a game that i cant play when i want 2 this is day 2 of extended down time during peak hours and i cant play $^%&%%%$ $^$&#%%$$% $%$^ ****^#%^&& you ccp i will not be renewing my subscription as ccp owes me play time i didnt get ..bunch of ice hole thieves I bet you won't really be dropping your subscription. And if you do, no1 is going to miss you. o7
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:52:00 - [222] Originally by: Nurrec Originally by: mercury V Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Originally by: Rasz Lin there are 3 issues threads made by 2 GMs, and you still failed to link to any of them, n1 :D I think the forums are angry at me.... were not mad at you we want to hang the ccp joker that did 2 extended downtime 2 days in a row... i didnt subscribe to a game that i cant play when i want 2 this is day 2 of extended down time during peak hours and i cant play $^%&%%%$ $^$&#%%$$% $%$^ ****^#%^&& you ccp i will not be renewing my subscription as ccp owes me play time i didnt get ..bunch of ice hole thieves I bet you won't really be dropping your subscription. And if you do, no1 is going to miss you. o7 This type of discussion always happens at every patch, and if every1 left when they said they would.... no-one would be playing...
Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:52:00 - [223] Is there going to be a FIX for the ML cycle problem in this patch or sometime way in the future? GJ on the quick fixes so far.
mercury V	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:53:00 - [224] Originally by: Nurrec Originally by: mercury V Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Originally by: Rasz Lin there are 3 issues threads made by 2 GMs, and you still failed to link to any of them, n1 :D I think the forums are angry at me.... were not mad at you we want to hang the ccp joker that did 2 extended downtime 2 days in a row... i didnt subscribe to a game that i cant play when i want 2 this is day 2 of extended down time during peak hours and i cant play $^%&%%%$ $^$&#%%$$% $%$^ ****^#%^&& you ccp i will not be renewing my subscription as ccp owes me play time i didnt get ..bunch of ice hole thieves I bet you won't really be dropping your subscription. And if you do, no1 is going to miss you. o7 i definately wont miss a non shower taking geek like you
Luciffer 13	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:54:00 - [225] just get it online in next 7 min or my overseer wreck will despawn.. -------------------------------------- English is not my first language!
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:54:00 - [226] Originally by: Carli Zandrya Is there going to be a FIX for the ML cycle problem in this patch or sometime way in the future? GJ on the quick fixes so far. :O A POSITIVE COMMENT.... THOU SHALL BE BANNED FOR THIS!
Captain run	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:54:00 - [227] Stop giving extended maintenances on my birthday :(
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:56:00 - [228] Originally by: gintaru Originally by: Various Scrublords ZOMG IM QUITTING ITS PATCH DAY ZOMGZOMG QQQ This type of discussion always happens at every patch, and if every1 left when they said they would.... no-one would be playing... I'd still be playing because I love patches. They let me get more than 1 hour of sleep day.
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:57:00 - [229] Originally by: Saithe Originally by: gintaru Originally by: Various Scrublords ZOMG IM QUITTING ITS PATCH DAY ZOMGZOMG QQQ This type of discussion always happens at every patch, and if every1 left when they said they would.... no-one would be playing... I'd still be playing because I love patches. They let me get more than 1 hour of sleep day. +1
Dossal	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:57:00 - [230] Happy Birthday.

Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:59:00 - [231] Originally by: gintaru +1 I'll take Delve and *****ious, as well as Gaylente and Jove Space. Which shall you claim in our 2 - 5 person Eve Universe?
flint dragon	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:00:00 - [232] Originally by: Clamis Yet again Europe gets it in the neck for extra downtimes. It would be a good idea to do them over a time when The US come online to play and let them get the hit for a change. Not happy. 6 accounts may be saying good bye at this rate. am from the usa and we get it in the neck too so stop ur bit hing
captian donotshoot	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:01:00 - [233] Originally by: Saithe Originally by: gintaru +1 I'll take Delve and *****ious, as well as Gaylente and Jove Space. Which shall you claim in our 2 - 5 person Eve Universe? you can get all the space, just let me fly out all of the caps first
JimmyMarsh Caldari It Grows	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:01:00 - [234] Perhaps not as important as some of the other complaints, but also easier to fix: When transferring isk to another character or to your corp wallet, the window used to auto-focus to the amount field. (you click "give money" and you can start typing the amount and hit enter) Now, however, you have to click the field to type the amount of isk in. Could this be fixed?
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:02:00 - [235] Originally by: JimmyMarsh Perhaps not as important as some of the other complaints, but also easier to fix: When transferring isk to another character or to your corp wallet, the window used to auto-focus to the amount field. (you click "give money" and you can start typing the amount and hit enter) Now, however, you have to click the field to type the amount of isk in. Could this be fixed? like an auto focus on that field... i agree with this
Dark Venger	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:02:00 - [236] Originally by: Clamis Yet again Europe gets it in the neck for extra downtimes. It would be a good idea to do them over a time when The US come online to play and let them get the hit for a change. Not happy. 6 accounts may be saying good bye at this rate. Your stuffz, give it to me :) DV
marek golec	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:02:00 - [237] yea CCP, It seems to me that this patch will fix a lot of small inconveniences and obstacles making this game easier to all of us...pay attention to small things and we will get what we need :)
Scull Mayhem	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:05:00 - [238] Was kinda interesting trying to play the game with Eve Crashing every 3 min after the download ... after a few hrs it stopped but diddnt want to go do anything dangerous like try and fight a war... but on the bright side the pretty colours in the probe scan window are cool (um theres supposta be colours in there right?) .. now if the missing half of my corp can get the game to run this would be a good thing
Hurrakan Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:10:00 - [239] The game is showing the wrong portrait for my character! It's showing the first portrait I saved after using the character creator. I later re-modelled my avatar and made a new (much cooler) portrait. At the character selection screen, the correct portrait is shown. I really hope CCP didn't lose my avatar/portrait.
Narisa Bithon Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:10:00 - [240] Edited by: Narisa Bithon on 07/04/2011 13:11:09 Originally by: Hurrakan The game is showing the wrong portrait for my character! It's showing the first portrait I saved after using the character creator. I later re-modelled my avatar and made a new (much cooler) portrait. At the character selection screen, the correct portrait is shown. I really hope CCP didn't lose my avatar/portrait. no it typically takes 24hrs for the server's copy of your new portrait to update. Also clear your cache to have your client side update ------------------------------------------------------ hmm second day in a row eve online has a really long downtime.... any chance of some skill points?

OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:10:00 - [241] It's a nice game. We can make it up, till the end, trough all patches, friendly or unfriendly. But WTH those launch-delays every time? Why all this epic fail on making things right? Today we got the second extended DT. Others will follow, could bet. Who's gonna do something about game time we loose? Also bet that nobody. And all the lack of response on our questions from the devs just point on the "i don't care" status... And, well, today's extended DT is again a extended-extended DT. Till this hour. Might be also a extended-extended-extended DT, with afferent lack of care. And some voices say CCP has escuses on that. Nope. Is the only thing on that there are no escuses. So, fail. Epic.
cta drone	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:12:00 - [242] Strip Mining turrets now run their full 3 minute cycle even after being turned off making em useless on smaller roids ya killing my isk income with this fact anyone wanta buy a orca and 2 hulks cheap if its not fixed soon?
Nomi Cakes	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:13:00 - [243] I'm nt sure why people complain about downtime. Every MMO has had these issues, and some are far worse than this, but the majority of the playerbase understands that, hey, stuff happens. And you can't always predict it. I advise everyone to get off the CCP's backs. They're doing a hell of alot more work to get these things fixed than you are.
Uran otan	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:14:00 - [244] Another morning I can't get on the stupid game! That's it I quit! Just kidding... Anyone see if we are up yet?
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:15:00 - [245] if you quit, can i have your stuff?
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:16:00 - [246] ccp only wants your real money then they shut the game down and have a party at our expense
BigBang No1	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:16:00 - [247] Nice that you take the time to fix any problems errors etc, but i think it sucks when you people dont fix it during 1 extended downtime. 2 days in a row is no go!
Captain run	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:18:00 - [248] B-day party in jita!!
Uran otan	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:19:00 - [249] Perhaps the 3 that are in game are running the last of the Sanctums. This may take them a few more minutes
Frau JeanYus	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:19:00 - [250] This is always a ball. The post's after a patch crack me up. Thanks! Eve is one of a kind, and I'm glad to be a part of it for 3+ years. CCP's been busy, hardware,software, oh my. Thanks again, lub's me Eve.

Estrelita Nobunaga	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:20:00 - [251] There are a number of good books on software project management available. It might not be a bad idea to invest in a few copies before the next patch.
Capt Decker Caldari U.S.A.F. AMMO Troops	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:21:00 - [252] Come on, two days in a row and they are the only two days I get off this week.... Hurry Please and you owe me a plex
cta drone	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:22:00 - [253] fix my mining turrets cycle timer!! or eve going to be covered in small roids that no one wants to mine 3 minutes to harvest 3 units of scordite is crazy
pletia	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:23:00 - [254] developers nekkid except for the lampshades on their heads....hangover from patch day is good.
Nobuko Satoishi Amarr Therapy. R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:23:00 - [255] Originally by: gintaru Well i moved from wow after 4 years of it... Blizzard does patching more efficiently - Great test environment which all bugs are squashed before released... Its nowhere near as much of a hassle as eve, so i have to disagree with you. However You also pay for every bloody expansion... Which is not the same with Eve. Originally by: Iaphar Shaddai whilst you do not pay a standalone expansion charge for new content you do infact pay a higher subscription charge. Subs in games like Wow are typically about ú7.99 p/m whereas an eve online sub works out at about ú13.67p/m when paid directly on card through account management. this means that per month i am paying about ú5.68 per month extra which over the course of a year is a ú68 increase on the price of WOW which forgive me if im wrong is enough to pay for the expansion pack on preorder... twice. Dont get me wrong i love playing eve, i think that yes sometimes the devs introduce messed up changes ignoring the playerbase (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS5IHVKRzwc epic lolz) but please dont try to make out that ccp is an epic company for not charging you to expand on features. Most of the time their expansions are fixes or content that needs more fixing giving them an excuse for another future expansion than just leaving it alone, AND you are forced to pay a lot more for it cause the cost is hidden.
Capt James StarBuck	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:23:00 - [256] But really HURRY Thanks For the great game of EVE, take your Time and make it perfect...or your all fired...just kidding
SpotlessBlade Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:24:00 - [257] Originally by: Cresalle 1) You just want to ** off as many people as possible before you shut down TQ and turn it into the WoD server. (We'll call this the "you be trollin" scenario.) 2) You have middle managers or etc that want to 'move away from the tired old style' and 'create a new vision' or something. (We'll call this the "ing brain-stem challenged" scenario.) 3) You are all bat crazy, drunk, high, or all of the above. (We'll call this the "viking" scenario.) Funniest S* ive read in a looong time.
Radakos	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:25:00 - [258] kan I plz haz my eve k thx bai
JTDaBeast	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:26:00 - [259] It's all psychological. If you say DT if from X-Y. Then hot dammit make that Y deadline. If you know you're not gonna be ready by then, just say DT will be from X-(Y+3hrs). That way you have time for error. But to string us along hour by hour saying DT is until 13:00, oh wait 14:30, oh wait. . . 16:00 oh wait. . . . <- this is where it can be frustrating. Yes CCP is doing a great job, yes we love the game. But being frustrated about this issue is our God given right, and what better place to troll then our favoritest forums in the world.
Capt Decker Caldari U.S.A.F. AMMO Troops	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:27:00 - [260] since we are all just hanging out here, anyone want to buy 1000 Caldari shuttles

Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:27:00 - [261] Downtime has been extended until 15:00 to fix some unforseen bugs. We are sorry for any inconvenience.
marek golec	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:28:00 - [262] will i get concorded if my face is a mix of caldari/gallante and i am in a factional war? :) hope this patch will not intro this issue :)))
Kal Phaedron	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:28:00 - [263] Some or all of the devs might be any combination of lazy, unprofessional or incompetent, but till I see any evidence to suggest so, I will assume the contrary and that they are doing their best. Do you really think they have extended dt's just for ****s and giggles? ------------------------------------------------ If I hadn't written this and wasted five seconds of your time what would you be doing right now?
Eiron Hal Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:28:00 - [264] Quote: Patch notes for Incursion 1.4.1, released April 7, 2011 FIXES Ships and Modules òFixed a bug with mining lasers not cancelling the current cycle at deactivation. Yay! "For the miner in me" "I know of two things that are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; but I'm not sure about the the universe." -Albert Einstein
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:30:00 - [265] Originally by: Nomi Cakes I'm nt sure why people complain about downtime. Every MMO has had these issues, and some are far worse than this, but the majority of the playerbase understands that, hey, stuff happens. And you can't always predict it. I advise everyone to get off the CCP's backs. They're doing a hell of alot more work to get these things fixed than you are. It's not about the DT. Is about announcing a hour to have server up, and then delay, and delay, and delay, and not only once capable to lauch on time. Not even bout their lack of care. Won't count. It's about lack of proffesionalism, and that should worry their bosses. They said 13.30, UTC. How hard is to write there 14.30? Or 15.30? Like i said elswhere, i'd like to have such bosses at my job. Doing ****, and not care.
Coronus Vistule Gallente Condemned.	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:32:00 - [266] Originally by: OldWolf69 Originally by: Nomi Cakes I'm nt sure why people complain about downtime. Every MMO has had these issues, and some are far worse than this, but the majority of the playerbase understands that, hey, stuff happens. And you can't always predict it. I advise everyone to get off the CCP's backs. They're doing a hell of alot more work to get these things fixed than you are. It's not about the DT. Is about announcing a hour to have server up, and then delay, and delay, and delay, and not only once capable to lauch on time. Not even bout their lack of care. Won't count. It's about lack of proffesionalism, and that should worry their bosses. They said 13.30, UTC. How hard is to write there 14.30? Or 15.30? Like i said elswhere, i'd like to have such bosses at my job. Doing ***, and not care. It's Better than Blizz, so HTFU! We tell tales of Heroes to remind ourselves that we too can be Great.* Heroes Live Forever. Legends Never Die.
Sweet Clyde	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:32:00 - [267] It's up, one minute before deadline
SLAPNASTY McTAVISH	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:33:00 - [268] GAMES UP
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:35:00 - [269] Originally by: Coronus Vistule Originally by: OldWolf69 Originally by: Nomi Cakes I'm nt sure why people complain about downtime. Every MMO has had these issues, and some are far worse than this, but the majority of the playerbase understands that, hey, stuff happens. And you can't always predict it. I advise everyone to get off the CCP's backs. They're doing a hell of alot more work to get these things fixed than you are. It's not about the DT. Is about announcing a hour to have server up, and then delay, and delay, and delay, and not only once capable to lauch on time. Not even bout their lack of care. Won't count. It's about lack of proffesionalism, and that should worry their bosses. They said 13.30, UTC. How hard is to write there 14.30? Or 15.30? Like i said elswhere, i'd like to have such bosses at my job. Doing ****, and not care. It's Better than Blizz, so HTFU! Might be. But really don't care how Blizz is, as long as i don't pay Blizz.
cta drone	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:35:00 - [270] they really fixing the mining turret issue with this new patch? TY CCP i love you and remember guys there is no such thing as Lag in eve it is just a side effect of to many warp drives in one area stressing the time/space continuam So as CCP says ther eis no such thing as Lag!

CheezeChips	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:36:00 - [271] cmon dont loose your cool, these guys been doing the inposible. but yeah lets face it ETA's is what cpp suck at. and the grid is usaly a lil funky couple of days after, this been this way for years, and not only ccp tends todo this. the other bad thing is that ccp tends to nerve good things. but we only had buffs lately. but theres defently something wrong with the cycling of modules, i dont mine but serously go find bigger rock till they figer it out? from what i learned about online games the more orginal they get the more maintance they need, lets not name anny games but i remeber downtimes taking days. ccp always been ontop of a problem conserning grid things. i sometimes wonder what type of coffee they feeding the staff.
Seargent Douche	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:41:00 - [272] Edited by: Seargent Douche on 07/04/2011 13:41:57 Edited by: Seargent Douche on 07/04/2011 13:41:02 Wouldn't it be nice if for a change we could not rip the ** out of the CCP staff and actually give credit where it is due, think of it this way, if it was not for the fact that these guys actually got thier together and made this game, then you would have nothing to QQ about, fact is the only reason you are crying so much is that this game is so damn good you want to spend more time playing it and less time in DT, this is fair enough, but do you not think that if we just let them get on with thier jobs, they might actually get done faster? granted there are issues that need to be resolved, but if we all sit here *ing at them and complaining everytime they happen to fart in the wrong direction they may well just get fed up of your bull and say "** it", hell, i know i would, jeez. Edit, this should have been posted as my main but i forgot to change it, bummer.
JTDaBeast	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:41:00 - [273] \O/
Narisa Bithon Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:41:00 - [274] Originally by: cta drone Strip Mining turrets now run their full 3 minute cycle even after being turned off making em useless on smaller roids ya killing my isk income with this fact anyone wanta buy a orca and 2 hulks cheap if its not fixed soon? grow balls and mine in 0.0 where the roids are huge
M'jolnir	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:43:00 - [275] And thats better, got my damn toon right this time.
Blood Mace	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:48:00 - [276] Any member of corporation can accept contract assigned to his corporation even if corp member has no roles.
Maximillian Dragonard The Social Club INFINITY.	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:57:00 - [277] Edited by: Maximillian Dragonard on 07/04/2011 13:59:46 Well, 1.4.1 still hasn't fixed the current flashing login... seems to run fine once logged in, but after lauching client, screen begins to flash repeatedly until the login screen appears. Nvidia 8800gtx with latest drivers.
Awendia Minmatar Creative Discovery	Posted - 2011.04.07 14:13:00 - [278] Originally by: Maximillian Dragonard Edited by: Maximillian Dragonard on 07/04/2011 13:59:46 Well, 1.4.1 still hasn't fixed the current flashing login... seems to run fine once logged in, but after lauching client, screen begins to flash repeatedly until the login screen appears. Nvidia 8800gtx with latest drivers. Same here. ATI Radeon X1950 GT.
Loquitur Gallente Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.04.07 14:18:00 - [279] Originally by: Blood Mace Any member of corporation can accept contract assigned to his corporation even if corp member has no roles. This is not a new thing, and has been the case for ever, it seems. It caught me out too a little while back, but now that I think aobut it I see why it is that way. However I think it suggests a need for a feature change, and have posted my proposal here. It hasn't really gotten much attention so far, please feel free to give it some support. Director of Logistics Fatal Ascension
Hurrakan Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.07 14:42:00 - [280] Originally by: Narisa Bithon no it typically takes 24hrs for the server's copy of your new portrait to update. Also clear your cache to have your client side update No I re-made my portrait shortly after the character creator was first released (much longer than 24 hours ago). However the portrait displayed here in the forums is the correct one. <--

WEEZZIE	Posted - 2011.04.07 15:50:00 - [281] I've seen a few post about this on earlier pages in this thread. I'm sure there are more but don't have time to scan for blue post about it. (struggle enough just to find time to play the game) Bring back the existing fitting management! WTF are / were you thinking? My main character has over 180 fittings and they're not all named with descriptive names. How am I to choose which 50 I'll Keep without looking at the fit before I keep it. Some corp members are reporting they clicked OK without selecting fittings and all fittings are now gone. I've pulled all my fittings into EFT for safety but should I need a third party app to fix / safe guard against a new "feature." By the way the only benefit I see of storing fittings server side is if you play EvE on multiple computers. I may be totally off base here but the percentage of user that fall into this category is probably very low unless you count dual boxing on two or more separate systems. The dual boxers would have long ago figured how to move their fittings easily as would for that mater anyone else. Just Bring back fittings management the way it was, it was just fine and working well.
Nate21	Posted - 2011.04.07 15:56:00 - [282] Is 1.4.1 a big download as well? I am tired of these big downloads. Not all of us have uber internet. Took me over 4 hrs to download that patch yesterday. If this patch is big as well then I am going to lose my escalation site that has a possible 600+ mil mod drop. Figure things out the first time and collaberate with experienced players before you startsending out patches. Don't just patch to patch then have to patch the patch and extend the DT for multiple hours. Its ridiculous.
Jayde Emeraude Angels of Anarchy Ignes Immortalis	Posted - 2011.04.10 03:00:00 - [283] Please Please stop 'fixing' s*** - my fittings are now nerfed, overviews have huge issues, my screen flashes on login. FFS - leave things alone. Do it one at a time, a little here and there until you test it. JD
ORJI	Posted - 2011.04.10 03:22:00 - [284] Originally by: Florestan Bronstein Originally by: Mattias Kerensky Originally by: Charlotte Yakamoto The storing of fittings on the server does not work for me on this character. I get a popup asking me what fittings I wish to store on the server. Pressing the OK button however doesn't do anything, no matter if I have no fittings selected, all of them, or just a random selection. Also, emptying my fittings folder does not help, neither does clearing my cache. It works perfectly fine on another account using the same client however. I have this problem also, and it's INSANELY ANNOYING. Just saying. experiencing the same issue Same issue here. I have to manually fit ships until this is corrected and would have to agree on the annoyance factor.
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.04.10 05:11:00 - [285] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1494032 ^ Here's some more feedback.
RUS Comannder	Posted - 2011.04.10 11:22:00 - [286] Edited by: RUS Comannder on 10/04/2011 11:26:41 I read in this forum about cycle times and decided to see for myself. My report is everything regarding cycle times works fine and has since at least 1.4.1 I tested mining cycles with a t2 miner and a t2 and t1 ice miner. I tested weapons, ecms, eccms, energy vamps, energy destabilizers and all of the reppers No problems with those things, howsomewhatever,it takes a long time now for my ssd equipped system to get eve to the login page after I click on the .exe. The longest instance was 18 seconds, where it had been 4/5 seconds pre-patch before seeing the username / pw screen and once completing that page the wait is also longer post patch. Nothing has been changed on my end except for d/l the patch and installing. I was amazed at how my ssd sped up everything such as going from a cold boot to opening microsoft word and then opening a document - all in 11 seconds. With that said, I don't think your program is waiting for my computer to plod on to the next step, but that it is the other way around.
Ed Rush Erasers inc. Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.10 14:37:00 - [287] Lag still around. Incursion didn't fix it.
Nom Nom Nom	Posted - 2011.04.10 15:02:00 - [288] Originally by: RUS Comannder ...howsomewhatever,it takes a long time now for my ssd equipped system to get eve to the login page after I click on the .exe. The longest instance was 18 seconds, where it had been 4/5 seconds pre-patch before seeing the username / pw screen and once completing that page the wait is also longer post patch. Nothing has been changed on my end except for d/l the patch and installing. My eve-friends and I are also having this same issue as are many of the posters in this thread. The client since 1.4 just takes an eternity to get to the login/pw screen. I hope this is an issue that is known by the programmers. Looks like this happens with just about everyone, so I don't really know how they could have missed it to begin with. It's not mentioned at all in the first post of the issued thread.
Nikgah Plz	Posted - 2011.04.10 21:11:00 - [289] Originally by: Nom Nom Nom Originally by: RUS Comannder ...howsomewhatever,it takes a long time now for my ssd equipped system to get eve to the login page after I click on the .exe. The longest instance was 18 seconds, where it had been 4/5 seconds pre-patch before seeing the username / pw screen and once completing that page the wait is also longer post patch. Nothing has been changed on my end except for d/l the patch and installing. My eve-friends and I are also having this same issue as are many of the posters in this thread. The client since 1.4 just takes an eternity to get to the login/pw screen. I hope this is an issue that is known by the programmers. Looks like this happens with just about everyone, so I don't really know how they could have missed it to begin with. It's not mentioned at all in the first post of the issued thread. Rain rain go away CCP nerf us another day! - The anti nerf slogan

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.10 22:13:00 - [290] Originally by: Nom Nom Nom My eve-friends and I are also having this same issue as are many of the posters in this thread. The client since 1.4 just takes an eternity to get to the login/pw screen. I hope this is an issue that is known by the programmers. Looks like this happens with just about everyone, so I don't really know how they could have missed it to begin with. It's not mentioned at all in the first post of the issued thread. Yes we are aware of these reports and we are investigating.


Michigan Ex	Posted - 2011.04.10 22:22:00 - [291] 0.0 Systems which lost Sanctums and Havens and still have Military Index V only have 21 anoms instead of 25. Shouldn't the lost Sanctums and Havens be replaced by something else or is less valuable nullsec getting the shaft on number of anoms as well?
Cornmuffin	Posted - 2011.04.11 01:15:00 - [292] Since the patch, my ships seem to be draining cap more than they did before. For instance, my ratting proteus is cap stable at 27% according to evehq and is 33% stable according to in game fitting screen (I don't know why there is a discrepancy between the two, but that is not my concern here). These are the same numbers as before the patch, and my ship always sat around 30% while ratting. Since the patch I have noticed my cap now sits around %10. I am seeing similar results across multiple characters, for instance a 50% stable harby dipping to %15 and staying there. None of this happened before the patch and no pertinent skills or modules were changed. Anyone else seeing this?
Replacement 234	Posted - 2011.04.11 11:10:00 - [293] Thank You CCP Bella Bee!
Pau Tia	Posted - 2011.04.11 13:26:00 - [294] I am going to stick me hand up and "SHOUT" that Nurfing Nul Sec is going to cause more dead systems the CCP are trying to get rid off. Now renters are leaving space as they canÆt get the ISK to pay for it. The good systems are going to have a concentrated core of players earning good ISK. So if a new alliance wants in and get a into nul sec and take a low sec system, they will never be able a afford the upgrades to the systems / Rents to even bother challenging the established guys for their space. Congrats CCP... From one very disgruntled PVP Nul Sec player.
FOKAActive	Posted - 2011.04.11 18:58:00 - [295] I think that guys make fun of us, after that there are only a few anomalies in systems and some not have rats in them. I pay this game for what? For a beta? Patch after patch bug after bug ..I pay somehow with a fake money?
Troggor	Posted - 2011.04.12 08:02:00 - [296] Is there away for autoplot to quit cutting off the autopilot settings keep resetting after every jump or dock. really bad hauling
Mar Ioneta	Posted - 2011.04.12 11:39:00 - [297] ccp is cleaning the regions of 0.0, with its great idea nerf systems with their security will get drained more than 60% of 0.0, what a great idea .... this is sarcasm. I've been playing this game since 2004 and we are returning to the old days. when 0.0, 4 cats lived. all empty least with station systems and surroundings. and step back out again when you could fit 2 MWD. lol
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.12 12:10:00 - [298] ccp devs, I have a few observations to make... 1. It does'nt look like you guys changed any of the systems nul sec values. This has made certain systems far better than others (the point right?) have you concidered what this will do to the distribution of players accross server nodes (systems). It seems a little backwards concidering you went to all that effort to make lvl 4 missions spawn in quite systems to reduce lag? 2. You guys stated in the dev blog about sanctum changes that you belived this would make it easier for start-up/smaller alliences to get a foothold in nul... I dont quight understand the logic please enlighten me. 3. Whatabout broken truesec regions.. what?.. yes you know what regions im talking about. are you going to fix that or what? 4. It would be nice if every region had somthing "useful" in it. Im not saying everything but at least somthing comon. Your killing it here. It might seem like a cheap way to achive what you are looking for but its dangerous. fire whatever accountant manages ur programming teams. accountants should NEVER be in charge because all they do is think about the bottom line which leads to crap decision making... its not always about the cash.. 5. unrelated to patch but it exists in this version so this point is still valid OKAY... stations can never be destroyed... i think realistically this needs changed... unless u plan on adding more space. 6. hire some better information architects. if you even have any... 7. botting is reli becomming an issue here. DO SOMTHING FFS every noob and his grandmother have a macro now. who stands to benefit from the sanctum nerf... botters...
Mr LaForge	Posted - 2011.04.12 12:34:00 - [299] Anomolies and exploration sites are not respawning throughout the day as they did before the patch. Only Wormholes are.
Katie Tanaka	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:20:00 - [300] Any guesses what's in 1.4.2 "The Mystery Patch"? Extended downtime should end in ten minutes and there aren't even any patch notes...

TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:25:00 - [301] Edited by: TLWE on 12/04/2011 13:26:44 No idea. I just downloaded the patch. Applied it. Now just if the nice quality team folks get off the server, so I will find out. There is some chat that missions got disturbed and unbalanced so you get more assaults/blockades. Maybe they are still tweaking things? Maybe we will never find out till the changes will find us out during game. Edit: DT was just extended by 1 more hour it seems. -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Enkill Eridos Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire Massive Dynamic Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:41:00 - [302] Edited by: Enkill Eridos on 12/04/2011 13:41:40 I hope this patch fixes things I have noticed about t2 missiles..the fact that t1 missiles do better damage than the so-called "high damage" missiles. That's just what I have noticed, but maybe it is just me. I haven't gotten a lot of problems with this patch, unlike the last expansion..So really these guys are doing a good job, as for the lag, it is still there but it has become less frequent or has a shorter duration than before.But then again I have yet to fly in a huge fleet battle.
Dana Bomfim Caldari Brasil Estrelar Mineradora Co.	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:42:00 - [303] Some people claim to know about programming and computing, but in their argument they have a simple thing flawed which denotes a flaw in both of them, because arguments, programming and computing rely in one thing lacking in all statements starting with "I know about (put here the tech branch they say) and CCP work is bad": LOGIC. First of all, for the ones saying updates could be smaller without loss of quality: Nope, they dont. You can blame modular (or how people who really know about this call, layering) development, because you forget that browser and all "low end" framework programming rely on things CCP develops themselves for EVE. Second, about the network issues: - You ISP doesnt really mean when you get a 10mbps plan that you will download at 10mbps at any given time. - Your download will be slower deppending on traffic throuhg routes, distance from the server you are downloading, and the node you get when you connected your modem. Same goes for Alive connections to EVE servers. - Regardless of the first two, CCP shouldnt limit themselves because some people want to play a game like EVE with a crap Internet Connection. Third, for all "I've been there, I done that" arguments, there is a simple logic and plain fact: Arguments have their own internal consistency, regardless of what you have done in your life, it is not an argument itself. If a blind homeless man describe a blue car as a blue car and a expert designer describe the same car as red, the car wont be red just because the second man "Is a designer and see". You can think you know all because think you did cool things, but facts still facts and opinions still opinions.
Katie Tanaka	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:52:00 - [304] "Mysterious Patch" is also "Dang It's Not Working Quite Right Patch" it seems.
Hue Tog	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:52:00 - [305] This so called 10Mbs you are getting is actually more like 8Mbs Download, and 2Mbs Upload. Check speedtest.com to get a more accurate measure on your internet speeds. From Kansas to Iceland (Reykjavik) I pull off about 2.5Mbs/D and a 1.83Mbs/U. Not bad considering there is half a country and some water in between.
Enkill Eridos Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire Massive Dynamic Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:57:00 - [306] Originally by: Dana Bomfim Some people claim to know about programming and computing, but in their argument they have a simple thing flawed which denotes a flaw in both of them, because arguments, programming and computing rely in one thing lacking in all statements starting with "I know about (put here the tech branch they say) and CCP work is bad": LOGIC. First of all, for the ones saying updates could be smaller without loss of quality: Nope, they dont. You can blame modular (or how people who really know about this call, layering) development, because you forget that browser and all "low end" framework programming rely on things CCP develops themselves for EVE. Second, about the network issues: - You ISP doesnt really mean when you get a 10mbps plan that you will download at 10mbps at any given time. - Your download will be slower deppending on traffic throuhg routes, distance from the server you are downloading, and the node you get when you connected your modem. Same goes for Alive connections to EVE servers. - Regardless of the first two, CCP shouldnt limit themselves because some people want to play a game like EVE with a crap Internet Connection. Third, for all "I've been there, I done that" arguments, there is a simple logic and plain fact: Arguments have their own internal consistency, regardless of what you have done in your life, it is not an argument itself. If a blind homeless man describe a blue car as a blue car and a expert designer describe the same car as red, the car wont be red just because the second man "Is a designer and see". You can think you know all because think you did cool things, but facts still facts and opinions still opinions. +1 Also what people fail to realize is that the general rule in programming is fix one bug and that fix or in the case of a game new content can and most certainly will cause a bug and error..In short small updates the bugs created by the fixes or new content will still exist, and still have the same effect as a bigger update. Also this is a 9 to 5 and I can guarantee a lot of these devs have families they want to get to.So naturally fixes take time. IT is actually less time consuming to do the updates in big batches. Plus there is QA stuff done in house probably then the SiSi stuff, but that doesn't mean they will even catch all of the bugs, or that the same bugs will appear or not appear on Tranquility. For those that don't want to read the above rant here's the short of it, have patience and take a chill pill. This is actually a long and humungous project that will probably never be compeltely bug or lag free. Plus some of this lag (because I have not gotten any large spikes of it like I used to.) could be a client computer problem (oh no it can never be that.) instead of a CCP programming problem. They will never get rid of lag either, because there are many different factors that CCP cannot control that contribute to it. Just accept that there will be problems with the game as it is a constantly evolving game, find ways you can do to reduce your own problems before whining about it on the forums and making yourself look like an asshat.
Vanorlexis	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:58:00 - [307] People who enjoy running combat sites and anomilies Thanks to CCP that part of eve has been taken away. So heres what you will most likely find on a daily scan of a local system near you 1.usually no results at all 2.oh boy a signature oh wait its a wormhole fine n dandy if u wanna do some pew pew atm. So past few days ive been scanning with no luck at finding a combat site or even radar or grav sites.When before the patch i could find things several times a day and had fun, now its just not worth the wasted time to probe anymore. Thanks CCP you made eve so so so much more fun. Another thing EVERYONE hates the new fittings changes.It was perfect the way it was how stupid was that.
Amy Cohen	Posted - 2011.04.12 14:08:00 - [308] Originally by: Vanorlexis People who enjoy running combat sites and anomilies Thanks to CCP that part of eve has been taken away. So heres what you will most likely find on a daily scan of a local system near you 1.usually no results at all 2.oh boy a signature oh wait its a wormhole fine n dandy if u wanna do some pew pew atm. So past few days ive been scanning with no luck at finding a combat site or even radar or grav sites.When before the patch i could find things several times a day and had fun, now its just not worth the wasted time to probe anymore. Thanks CCP you made eve so so so much more fun. Another thing EVERYONE hates the new fittings changes.It was perfect the way it was how stupid was that. You don't know that for sure..CCP is under no obligation to inform us what they are working on..As this is a problem I am sure CCP has been notified and is trying to balance it out a little more..patience is a virtue..be virtuous.
Jon Whayne	Posted - 2011.04.12 14:10:00 - [309] I have no idea which forums CCP devs read and post to, so I try my feedback on the current exploring - bug here as well. First of all, the Patchnotes 1.4.2 does not name the problems. Combat - Sites and DED-Sites in High and Low Sec space (I do not fly 00 so I can't tell about the situation there) do seem to spawn after Serverdown. After you did them, they are gone and it seems like they are not respawning anymore. No DEV commented on the different threats on the forums. So currently peeps being online after severdown have the opportunity to scan down sites, others do not. So again, I ask CCP to give us a hint. If its a bug, all is good. If you fix it asap, even better. If this is all intended, its a reason to leave EVE at this point and do something else instead. You will always find another thing to get addicted to, it doesn't have to be a game you pay money for to have fun ;)
Trazis UNKN0WN ENTITY	Posted - 2011.04.12 18:29:00 - [310] Didn't feel like reading 11 pages not sure if anyone else had the issue but when using the strip fittings option from the drop down menu it strips the fittings but still taxes the ship for the pg and cpu of the fittings that were removed making it impossible to fit the ship without exiting station and re-entering I tried it 5 times 3 out of 5 times I had the issue, a report has been filed.. anyone else have the issue?

Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.12 18:42:00 - [311] I was looking at the Incursion features page, the one with all the Dev videos on youtube. The very first video "Eve Online Dev Blog - Team BFF: All about Anomolies" Has been set to private on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVMAz9AmuQM&feature=player_embedded Is there something in that video that we shouldn't see? If you are going to gut the content of that dev blog which contains 1 Sentence and an unwatchable video, why no just yank the whole post? Maybe this was a mistake and somebody accidentally edited that video to be private? Also wondering about patch notes for 1.4.2, but at this rate we will be on 1.4.4 by Monday so maybe you are conserving yourselves?
Bon Vraun	Posted - 2011.04.13 03:03:00 - [312] At least these people got the patch downloaded... I must be the only person that has trouble downloading patches from CCP. Maybe CCP doesn't like Windows 7 but hmmm it worked prior to the last few patches just fine. I really think the download/update mechanics were compromised or just got broke. downloading a 10MB file should not be this hard... Everthing else works fine but 9000 bytes/Sec trying to download this patch... WTF
Bon Vraun	Posted - 2011.04.13 03:16:00 - [313] Originally by: Dana Bomfim Some people claim to know about programming and computing, but in their argument they have a simple thing flawed which denotes a flaw in both of them, because arguments, programming and computing rely in one thing lacking in all statements starting with "I know about (put here the tech branch they say) and CCP work is bad": LOGIC. First of all, for the ones saying updates could be smaller without loss of quality: Nope, they dont. You can blame modular (or how people who really know about this call, layering) development, because you forget that browser and all "low end" framework programming rely on things CCP develops themselves for EVE. Second, about the network issues: - You ISP doesnt really mean when you get a 10mbps plan that you will download at 10mbps at any given time. - Your download will be slower deppending on traffic throuhg routes, distance from the server you are downloading, and the node you get when you connected your modem. Same goes for Alive connections to EVE servers. - Regardless of the first two, CCP shouldnt limit themselves because some people want to play a game like EVE with a crap Internet Connection. Third, for all "I've been there, I done that" arguments, there is a simple logic and plain fact: Arguments have their own internal consistency, regardless of what you have done in your life, it is not an argument itself. If a blind homeless man describe a blue car as a blue car and a expert designer describe the same car as red, the car wont be red just because the second man "Is a designer and see". You can think you know all because think you did cool things, but facts still facts and opinions still opinions. I'm sure you have plenty of education and experience to back up your statements and I'm really not trying to pick a fight but many other games and software applications have accomplished successful timely updates. I'm just wondering what has happened in recent days with CCP updates... Maybe its just me.
BoomChong Wong	Posted - 2011.04.13 04:15:00 - [314] I got a crash when logging off Eve. I had patched, restarted, logged in, recustomized my char (saving a new portrait), continued into the game, added a skill to the queue and logged off without ever having left the station. The crash did not prevent the client from relaunching, so it seems it was the logging off client exiting gracelessly. I logged on again on my other account, did not recustomize and logged off immediately after getting in, no crash. My char is Amarr and I still have no idea how I'm supposed to be able to get a hood. I can wear robes, but don't see any option for hoods (or sunglasses for that matter).
Hruruzat	Posted - 2011.04.13 06:42:00 - [315] I'm seeing a change im cap-use since the patch before yesterday and it is still existing. My cap seems to drain much faster, than it should. Tried it on 3 accounts in 6 different ships - all with the same result/phenomena. E.g. my Myrm should run capstable with it's modules at about 35% cap - now it is running almost below 20%. On my shieldtanks (which is much harder to evaluate) i have the 'feeling' (tried to watch the clock), that they are running capdry much faster. Where there is a given time of 1min 20s in the fitting screen, now is a time somewhere below that. Is there a know issue, or am i just suffering from a time-distortion? :D

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.13 11:54:00 - [316] Originally by: Trazis Didn't feel like reading 11 pages not sure if anyone else had the issue but when using the strip fittings option from the drop down menu it strips the fittings but still taxes the ship for the pg and cpu of the fittings that were removed making it impossible to fit the ship without exiting station and re-entering I tried it 5 times 3 out of 5 times I had the issue, a report has been filed.. anyone else have the issue? I haven't seen other reports of this, and at least at a quick glance I can't reproduce. What type of ship did you have? Did you include log server logs with the report?


CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.13 11:58:00 - [317] Originally by: BoomChong Wong I got a crash when logging off Eve. I had patched, restarted, logged in, recustomized my char (saving a new portrait), continued into the game, added a skill to the queue and logged off without ever having left the station. The crash did not prevent the client from relaunching, so it seems it was the logging off client exiting gracelessly. I logged on again on my other account, did not recustomize and logged off immediately after getting in, no crash. My char is Amarr and I still have no idea how I'm supposed to be able to get a hood. I can wear robes, but don't see any option for hoods (or sunglasses for that matter). We are investigating an issue with crash on exit. As for the hood, it's not very obvious but when you've put on the robe, arrow buttons appear below the robe thumbnails. Click on them to switch between hood options. And the Amarr don't wear sunglasses


CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.13 11:58:00 - [318] Originally by: Hruruzat I'm seeing a change im cap-use since the patch before yesterday and it is still existing. My cap seems to drain much faster, than it should. Tried it on 3 accounts in 6 different ships - all with the same result/phenomena. E.g. my Myrm should run capstable with it's modules at about 35% cap - now it is running almost below 20%. On my shieldtanks (which is much harder to evaluate) i have the 'feeling' (tried to watch the clock), that they are running capdry much faster. Where there is a given time of 1min 20s in the fitting screen, now is a time somewhere below that. Is there a know issue, or am i just suffering from a time-distortion? :D I'm looking into this.

AlleinSoldat	Posted - 2011.04.13 12:07:00 - [319] Edited by: AlleinSoldat on 13/04/2011 12:08:59 Is it me, or is anyone else having issues getting past their character select screen? Mine shows up, but all I get is the news bar, the buttons for my characters w/o portraits, and am able to click them to EVE crashing w/o even attempting to go ingame... very annoying.... EDIT: Nevermind, it only took me ten times to finally get logged in.....
Dana Bomfim Caldari Brasil Estrelar Mineradora Co.	Posted - 2011.04.13 13:13:00 - [320] I am not saying that all in EVE is a field of red roses at sunset in a spring day. Nor it will be at any given time. What I say is that comparing to the job done almost everywhere in the MMO industry, CCP isnt among the lower level. Take a good look at game mechanics in WoW, Guildwars and other famous ones. Seriously. In WoW they do smaller files, and most of people buy a CD. Try to download the client and see how much time it takes. Then realise that you WILL have to reinstall the game sometimes. And from a tech point of view, WoW is a lousy job. Guildwars also, but you may expect that from a game you pay a dozen euros to play lifetime. What can really shake some heads is take a look in Battlestar Galactica Online, which is intended to be a closer MMO due to its background and theme. But here is the difference: BSG Online is played in browser, using a plugin. Quick to install and play, mostly the patches are installed server-side, so no patches to install. The downside, it is crappy graphics, crappy gameplay, and even BSG "sick fans" hate the game and state that EVE is closer to make you feel part of a somehow BSG storyline than the BSG Online game.

Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.13 13:25:00 - [321] Edited by: Lev Aeris on 13/04/2011 13:25:40 Originally by: CCP Greyscale Those changes in full We've batched nullsec up into five security bands, based on the current truesec values that are already available via the datadump: 0.0 to -0.2, -0.3 to -0.4, -0.5 to -0.6, -0.7 to -0.8 and -0.9 to -1.0. (And yes, we're rounding in the same way that we do in the UI currently, so the boundaries actually lie at -0.25, -0.45 and so on.) Firstly, we've evened out the upgrades so each one has four sites in it now, rather than five in the first and four in the rest. We're also retaining a mix of the sites that we're aware are regarded as "filler" by high-end players, for several reasons: to act as genuine filler so the earlier upgrades in some systems aren't empty; to give newer players resources they can use without much competition; and to give people running anomalies a little more safety from marauding enemies. In terms of the high-end sites that high-end players are after - Havens and Sanctums for normal factions, and Hordes for drones - the break-even compared to the current system's maximum of four is around the 3rd and 4th band (-0.5 to -0.8 space), which are -1 and +1 respectively. Below this, things get worse (0.0 to -0.2 systems won't get any high-end sites after the change), but the -0.9 to -1.0 band can potentially gain an extra six top sites with full upgrades. 26 of the 34 regions have at least one system in this security band, with half having 5 or more. According to the dev blog, Systems with Truesec bewteen -0.5 and -0.8 should be on par with the old sov system. That old standard had 2 Sanctums and 2 Havens. Right now I am sitting in a -0.8 System and it only has 1 Sanctum, but 5 Havens. Replacing the top level sites with lesser sites is NOT breaking even, its a loss. Is this an error in the code, or an error in the language of the dev blog? As it stands the advertized changes from CCP Greyscales own mouth are incorrect and not accurately documented.

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.13 15:14:00 - [322] Originally by: Lev Aeris According to the dev blog, Systems with Truesec bewteen -0.5 and -0.8 should be on par with the old sov system. That old standard had 2 Sanctums and 2 Havens. Right now I am sitting in a -0.8 System and it only has 1 Sanctum, but 5 Havens. Replacing the top level sites with lesser sites is NOT breaking even, its a loss. Is this an error in the code, or an error in the language of the dev blog? As it stands the advertized changes from CCP Greyscales own mouth are incorrect and not accurately documented. It's possible that you're experiencing the effects of a known issue with re-spawning sites which will hopefully be fixed this week.

Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.04.13 16:15:00 - [323] Will the portraits rendered with the wrong tattoo opacity be re-rendered or do we need to redo the portraits for it to happen?

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.13 17:17:00 - [324] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Will the portraits rendered with the wrong tattoo opacity be re-rendered or do we need to redo the portraits for it to happen? You'll need to go through re-customization to get a new portrait

JP Goodwin	Posted - 2011.04.14 03:01:00 - [325] Edited by: JP Goodwin on 14/04/2011 03:02:26 Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: BoomChong Wong My char is Amarr and I still have no idea how I'm supposed to be able to get a hood. I can wear robes, but don't see any option for hoods (or sunglasses for that matter). As for the hood, it's not very obvious but when you've put on the robe, arrow buttons appear below the robe thumbnails. Click on them to switch between hood options. And the Amarr don't wear sunglasses Yay, I got my hood on. Thanks. And I even figured out how to fix my default forum character too. Edit: well, it was on in the game anyway. Looks like my portrait hasn't updated to the forums yet.
guttertrash VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2011.04.14 05:26:00 - [326] Edited by: guttertrash on 14/04/2011 05:33:41 that mandatory incursion channel thing is gay and annoying f u ck you again ccp
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.04.14 12:32:00 - [327] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Lev Aeris According to the dev blog, Systems with Truesec bewteen -0.5 and -0.8 should be on par with the old sov system. That old standard had 2 Sanctums and 2 Havens. Right now I am sitting in a -0.8 System and it only has 1 Sanctum, but 5 Havens. Replacing the top level sites with lesser sites is NOT breaking even, its a loss. Is this an error in the code, or an error in the language of the dev blog? As it stands the advertized changes from CCP Greyscales own mouth are incorrect and not accurately documented. It's possible that you're experiencing the effects of a known issue with re-spawning sites which will hopefully be fixed this week. Thank you so much for informing your customers about this bug.
Maladeu Amarr The Assassins.	Posted - 2011.04.14 13:47:00 - [328] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Trazis Didn't feel like reading 11 pages not sure if anyone else had the issue but when using the strip fittings option from the drop down menu it strips the fittings but still taxes the ship for the pg and cpu of the fittings that were removed making it impossible to fit the ship without exiting station and re-entering I tried it 5 times 3 out of 5 times I had the issue, a report has been filed.. anyone else have the issue? I haven't seen other reports of this, and at least at a quick glance I can't reproduce. What type of ship did you have? Did you include log server logs with the report? Second this! Couldn't goto pod in station, had to buy a shuttle-->undock-->eject-->dock to install my new implants. +I am wondering if the t3 fitting is acting up, since if I press "fit" button on saved fits the subsystems are getting strange some removed and not replaced by others, leaving empty SS-places, which concludes that "saved fits" button won't work with t3 SS switch. Anyone else notice this? +Ship is often not visible in hangar. Otherwise, keep up the good work CCP. P.S. Pls fix ECM jamming strength of NPCs D.S

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.14 15:41:00 - [329] Originally by: Maladeu Second this! Couldn't goto pod in station, had to buy a shuttle-->undock-->eject-->dock to install my new implants. +I am wondering if the t3 fitting is acting up, since if I press "fit" button on saved fits the subsystems are getting strange some removed and not replaced by others, leaving empty SS-places, which concludes that "saved fits" button won't work with t3 SS switch. Anyone else notice this? +Ship is often not visible in hangar. Otherwise, keep up the good work CCP. P.S. Pls fix ECM jamming strength of NPCs D.S Thanks, investigating...


CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.14 15:42:00 - [330] Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Lev Aeris According to the dev blog, Systems with Truesec bewteen -0.5 and -0.8 should be on par with the old sov system. That old standard had 2 Sanctums and 2 Havens. Right now I am sitting in a -0.8 System and it only has 1 Sanctum, but 5 Havens. Replacing the top level sites with lesser sites is NOT breaking even, its a loss. Is this an error in the code, or an error in the language of the dev blog? As it stands the advertized changes from CCP Greyscales own mouth are incorrect and not accurately documented. It's possible that you're experiencing the effects of a known issue with re-spawning sites which will hopefully be fixed this week. Thank you so much for informing your customers about this bug. Sorry, it was only confirmed as an issue earlier this week and was reported by CCP Soundwave in the issues thread two days ago.


ScannerAlt	Posted - 2011.04.14 16:33:00 - [331] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee And the Amarr don't wear sunglasses So I have noticed, with no pleasure what so ever.

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.15 09:55:00 - [332] Originally by: Maladeu Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Trazis Didn't feel like reading 11 pages not sure if anyone else had the issue but when using the strip fittings option from the drop down menu it strips the fittings but still taxes the ship for the pg and cpu of the fittings that were removed making it impossible to fit the ship without exiting station and re-entering I tried it 5 times 3 out of 5 times I had the issue, a report has been filed.. anyone else have the issue? I haven't seen other reports of this, and at least at a quick glance I can't reproduce. What type of ship did you have? Did you include log server logs with the report? Second this! Couldn't goto pod in station, had to buy a shuttle-->undock-->eject-->dock to install my new implants. +I am wondering if the t3 fitting is acting up, since if I press "fit" button on saved fits the subsystems are getting strange some removed and not replaced by others, leaving empty SS-places, which concludes that "saved fits" button won't work with t3 SS switch. Anyone else notice this? +Ship is often not visible in hangar. Otherwise, keep up the good work CCP. P.S. Pls fix ECM jamming strength of NPCs D.S Hey guys, we're investigating this but having trouble reproducing. If you don't mind, could you please file a bug report, including logserver logs and if you can think of any additional information about your scenario then please include that. Also screen shots would be most excellent. And mention my name so that I'll get the information directly. Thank you

Cornmuffin	Posted - 2011.04.15 21:51:00 - [333] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Hruruzat I'm seeing a change im cap-use since the patch before yesterday and it is still existing. My cap seems to drain much faster, than it should. Tried it on 3 accounts in 6 different ships - all with the same result/phenomena. E.g. my Myrm should run capstable with it's modules at about 35% cap - now it is running almost below 20%. On my shieldtanks (which is much harder to evaluate) i have the 'feeling' (tried to watch the clock), that they are running capdry much faster. Where there is a given time of 1min 20s in the fitting screen, now is a time somewhere below that. Is there a know issue, or am i just suffering from a time-distortion? :D I'm looking into this. Any word on this? I posted earlier in this thread about having the exact same issue on my proteus. The fitting screen shows me at cap stable 33% (which it used to do) but ever since the patch it goes down to 5%.
caprotti	Posted - 2011.04.16 01:04:00 - [334] Hi , Sorry if this has been mentioned but if so i didnt find it, Just started a mission to find that my launchers fire once then comtinue to cycle but do not fire a second time, Also drones are only firing once then stopping. I have tried docking , rebooting the PC uninstalling and reinstalling the client.
Kindlin	Posted - 2011.04.16 04:15:00 - [335] Originally by: caprotti Just started a mission to find that my launchers fire once then comtinue to cycle but do not fire a second time, Also drones are only firing once then stopping. Same issue.
Shiva Russell	Posted - 2011.04.16 08:22:00 - [336] Edited by: Shiva Russell on 16/04/2011 08:24:34 Edited by: Shiva Russell on 16/04/2011 08:23:43 Can't target, cursor starts to countdown... on completion it says 'locked' the cursor still blinks but no target shows up on the screen. If i swap overview tabs the countdown starts again with the same result. Also module activation grafic dosnt work i.e afterburner wont show as being active even though it is. Games unplayable at the moment (since i cant target). Relogged, Session changed, tryed another computer, uninstalled the client update with no effect. Petitioned with no response at all.... seems ccp have given up on petitions, or maybe theres so many bugs that they cant deal with them. Not happy! (no i'm not leaving and no you can't have my stuff)
StuRyan	Posted - 2011.04.16 11:03:00 - [337] still suffering with the annoying pest in chat channels, the text sits on top of text and you have to resize the channel i dont know how many times before it scales.
Venus StPierre	Posted - 2011.04.17 14:31:00 - [338] Originally by: StuRyan still suffering with the annoying pest in chat channels, the text sits on top of text and you have to resize the channel i dont know how many times before it scales. I also get the overlapped text in chat. However i found a workaround(?). By simply clicking on the chat's tab (refresh). however i have to do this everytime i change chat window. I'm guessing it is due to the number of chat windows I have stacked. Hope it works out for you.
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.04.18 02:47:00 - [339] Originally by: Venus StPierre Originally by: StuRyan still suffering with the annoying pest in chat channels, the text sits on top of text and you have to resize the channel i dont know how many times before it scales. I also get the overlapped text in chat. However i found a workaround(?). By simply clicking on the chat's tab (refresh). however i have to do this everytime i change chat window. I'm guessing it is due to the number of chat windows I have stacked. Hope it works out for you. Clicking the chat tab in question is a good workaround! This problem has been bugging me for months on-end. sigh chat used to be one of the things that worked perfectly for years... Now it seems to break in different ways with each major patch.
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.04.18 13:26:00 - [340] Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 18/04/2011 13:27:53 http://img148.imageshack.us/f/ishot19.png/ "sort by price, lowest first" Notice listed order: : : 30 million 40.32 million 38.11 million : : => CCP obviously can't even get simple sorting done right!

Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:27:00 - [341] Originally by: Lederstrumpf Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 18/04/2011 13:27:53 http://img148.imageshack.us/f/ishot19.png/ "sort by price, lowest first" Notice listed order: : : 30 million 40.32 million 38.11 million : : => CCP obviously can't even get simple sorting done right! I had a similar issue trying to sort open Corporate Votes by date. I could click the column header and get an up or down arrow, but nothing moved. Text in Chat windows is still being clipped / improperly wrapped. Anoms are still not respawning or spawning in the quantities described in CCP Greyscales blog. CCP Bella Bee, Thanks for working on this thread, I have never seen any other dev interact with the player base this much in 3 years.

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.20 11:55:00 - [342] Originally by: Lev Aeris I had a similar issue trying to sort open Corporate Votes by date. I could click the column header and get an up or down arrow, but nothing moved. Text in Chat windows is still being clipped / improperly wrapped. Anoms are still not respawning or spawning in the quantities described in CCP Greyscales blog. CCP Bella Bee, Thanks for working on this thread, I have never seen any other dev interact with the player base this much in 3 years. Thank you for the feedback I'll get the sorting issues looked into. We're aware of the chat window clipping/wrapping issue, it is being worked on but I can't really say how quickly the fix will get released. I'll mention your concern to CCP Greyscale and ask him to have a look, the issue that was preventing certain types of sites from being respawned at all has been fixed but I'll ask him to look into whether the balancing and respawn rates are correct (it would be really helpful btw if you could give me a specific example).


CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.20 13:01:00 - [343] Edited by: CCP Bella Bee on 20/04/2011 13:00:56 Originally by: Cornmuffin Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Hruruzat I'm seeing a change im cap-use since the patch before yesterday and it is still existing. My cap seems to drain much faster, than it should. Tried it on 3 accounts in 6 different ships - all with the same result/phenomena. E.g. my Myrm should run capstable with it's modules at about 35% cap - now it is running almost below 20%. On my shieldtanks (which is much harder to evaluate) i have the 'feeling' (tried to watch the clock), that they are running capdry much faster. Where there is a given time of 1min 20s in the fitting screen, now is a time somewhere below that. Is there a know issue, or am i just suffering from a time-distortion? :D I'm looking into this. Any word on this? I posted earlier in this thread about having the exact same issue on my proteus. The fitting screen shows me at cap stable 33% (which it used to do) but ever since the patch it goes down to 5%. So apparently this can happen if your system clock is not correct. So can you please check and make sure that it has the correct time, and get back to me if that doesn't fix the issue for you.

Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.20 18:44:00 - [344] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Thank you for the feedback I'll get the sorting issues looked into. We're aware of the chat window clipping/wrapping issue, it is being worked on but I can't really say how quickly the fix will get released. I'll mention your concern to CCP Greyscale and ask him to have a look, the issue that was preventing certain types of sites from being respawned at all has been fixed but I'll ask him to look into whether the balancing and respawn rates are correct (it would be really helpful btw if you could give me a specific example). Here is a screen capture of a -0.8 System with only 1 sanctum. As you can see the system itself is smaller than 32 AU in diameter, but I used 4 extra probes just to be certain nothing is possibly being missed. http://oi53.tinypic.com/257j71j.jpg
FILORO	Posted - 2011.04.22 15:34:00 - [345] I don`t now what is going on but from few days i can`t scan sigs more then 40%, i ask my corp members and they got the same result. Did CCP nerf scanning or what?
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.04.22 19:34:00 - [346] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee I'll get the sorting issues looked into. That "sorting issue" is not a sorting issue. It's an indication of some CCP programmers having no clue about how contract trading is being done inside EVE. At least one of the prices was a current bid of an auction. The old system used to list starting bids. The new system lists current bids. There's clearly a lack of concept of how to deal with current/starting bid PLUS buyout price at the same time. Address your lack of concepts instead of running in circles attempting to make things look prettier!
Yulan Kai Caldari Liberty Enterprises	Posted - 2011.04.23 11:31:00 - [347] Edited by: Yulan Kai on 23/04/2011 11:34:01 Edited by: Yulan Kai on 23/04/2011 11:33:28 I don't have it to scroll back though 12 pages of stuff to see if anyone else has noticed this, but when loading weapons the following message always appears: "These charges cannot be loaded into any of the currently fitted modules". This appears whether or not you are using the corrct ammo. I'm so used to seeing it, that one day I accidently tried to load heavy missiles into my cruise launchers 4 times, because I'm so used to seeing the "wrong ammo" script that it no longer registers in my head as any kind of valid message. Please fix this, it shouldn't be hard.
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.04.24 15:04:00 - [348] I just had 2/3rd of my saved fittings dumped somewhere onto my harddisk into some XML file. After having to click 50 checkboxes and listening to 50 click sounds to save at least 50. Hard limit of 50. I'm really impressed. How 1970 is that? Did storage prices went up lately? Or is it just that you can't cache good and expect fittings IP traffic costs to drive Island straight into poverty? Did any usability expert tell you that "50 is enough for everybody"? Found some vulcanic stone table you deciphered as "50 is the number of virgins in paradise"? Was it a team of 5 people working on it, each with exactly 10 fingers? Why 50? Make it five instead! Just five so any one handed person can still use his fingers to count! And sell any other slot for an extra 100$... well, wait ... have users _rent_ any extra slot for 1000$ a month. They will happily agree to it. They will cherish you for any technical limitation you come up with after investing plenty of manhours. They will include CCP in their prayers for the concept of expanding the game by taking away fucntionality. They will kiss your hands and praise your committment to excellency! Or just completely remove the "save fittings" option! No issues with scalability at all! No bugs! Users will be lucky! They will cherish and party for weeks! Users might lick your feet for it and even include you in their last will! Go for it! Go cripple your product, it's worth a second try!

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.26 10:45:00 - [349] Originally by: Lev Aeris Here is a screen capture of a -0.8 System with only 1 sanctum. As you can see the system itself is smaller than 32 AU in diameter, but I used 4 extra probes just to be certain nothing is possibly being missed. http://oi53.tinypic.com/257j71j.jpg According to CCP Greyscale this is by design and in line with the blog, there should only be one Sanctum in this system...

Nisktonhen	Posted - 2011.04.26 18:16:00 - [350] get rid of the 50 fitting limit, it's bothering the heck out of me.. I'd rather store my fittings on my own computer than have you guys limit my 450 fittings to a miniature 50... I already have a thread on this too lol http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1496920

Lolmer Amarr Merciless Reckoning	Posted - 2011.04.28 05:42:00 - [351] Of all the serious issues 1.4 brought us, you decide to "optimize" Fleet Finder with Build 246918 to 247655 addresses Patch Notes for Incursion 1.4.2?
Foo Chan	Posted - 2011.04.30 12:27:00 - [352] Disconnections have increased a lot. Everyone in my corp gets disconnected about 4 or 5 times a day.. This didn't happen before the last 2 updates. Cheers
Budsin Adar	Posted - 2011.05.01 22:39:00 - [353] okay 22:25 has come and gone so much for the emergecy shut down they still are not back up and running as of 22:40 EVe time
Budsin Adar	Posted - 2011.05.01 22:41:00 - [354] Okay it now works lol learning patients lol fly safe all 0/
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.05.04 18:08:00 - [355] Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara on 04/05/2011 18:10:40 So, I go to import a ship fitting from an EFT-generated XML source and the following is returned: Originally by: EVE client 17:25:41 Hint Owner Frustrated Fapper can only have 50 saved fittings. Right. So, I know all about the hard limit of 50 fittings saved server-side. I have also read about settings being saved client-side in an XML file (scroll on down to the User Interface section): Originally by: Patch notes for Incursion 1.4, released April 6, 2011 Players can now store 50 fittings on the server, making them accessible from any computer. Additional fittings may be saved locally into an XML file. So I try out creating a test fitting in-game and then saving it. Same "hint" served up where only 50 fittings are allowed. My question is this: How does a player save the 51st and additional fittings to that local XML file where those fittings are then accessible via the in-game fittings interface? I see no additional controls that enable me to save fittings locally. @ CCP: please clarify. [edit: for clarification]
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation	Posted - 2011.05.05 11:59:00 - [356] Can CCP comment on the abomination that is the new fitting system?
Princesse Qiao	Posted - 2011.05.18 08:44:00 - [357] Originally by: Maximillian Dragonard Edited by: Maximillian Dragonard on 07/04/2011 13:59:46 Well, 1.4.1 still hasn't fixed the current flashing login... seems to run fine once logged in, but after lauching client, screen begins to flash repeatedly until the login screen appears. Nvidia 8800gtx with latest drivers. Now 3 patches and still not sorted. This issue should be the number one priority. Things like this kill graphics cards! (Happened to me once with another game that did the same sort of thing). [gold]Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoop
Jack Mancetti Minmatar Rennfeuer Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.22 18:53:00 - [358] I missed Aura The new Lady sounds like a woman by the German federal railway Bring Aura back or i'll quit
Karia Sur	Posted - 2011.06.22 19:13:00 - [359] Numerous new bugs (FPS and excessive resource use/overheating), old bugs/features still not resolved, and CCPs direction going in a different one to the one that I originally joined Eve for, leads me to cancel both of my accounts.
Tois Willar Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.22 21:20:00 - [360] Stripminer symbol in target row is black. This is bad on black backgrounds. Like space sometimes is. Wich is annoying when you are mining in your spaceship.



Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 .. 13 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.