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Novah Soul	Posted - 2011.04.09 23:52:00 - [1] Hey guys. What is the best mission running faction BS (either navy or pirate faction, doesn't matter which) for doing lvl 4 missions solo? I mission in gallente space and have all racial BS skills up to a minimum of lvl 3. Currently I run in a domi and have roughly 1m sp in drones. Tanking the missions are fine, its just killing them in a reasonable time frame that is an issue. Anyone have a suggestion on what I should aim for? I am leaning towards a rattlesnake or a mach currently since I can get a good range of selectable damage types with either. Thx in advance.
Fozzy Dorsai	Posted - 2011.04.10 00:29:00 - [2] There is no "the" answer to this question. However most posters will be sure that their answer is the correct one. It depends so much on what style of play you like. Do you like working with drones (as in your Domi) or missiles (as in the Raven series)? Prefer more gank (Navy Raven) or more tank (Rattlesnake)? I'm not the type of person who tends to pay attention to things, but I do like watching stuffblow up so I go a middle ground (Scorp Navy) though at work I'll use the Rattler because if I have to leave the computer, nothing is going to get past that tank. Listen to what the other replies will say, but make sure you take into account your playing style.
Droopy Dog	Posted - 2011.04.10 05:12:00 - [3] Why a BS? Why not a Tengu?? Cheaper and with a T2 fit can do any lvL4.
vicror Critical Density	Posted - 2011.04.10 06:24:00 - [4] never seen this question before
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2011.04.10 08:20:00 - [5] Nightmare: great dps + range, limited to em/therm Mach: highest dps, good range, fast, and agile cnr: pure damage types, pretty good dps, awesome range rattlesnake: good for afking those are probably in the better of the faction bs. as for the tengu, fast + agile + low sig res + good damage + good range, takes a good damage loss when shooting anything that isn't kinetic. it a good choice for blitzing (speed + sig tanking gives it a huge tank), but not really all that much cheaper than most faction battleships unless prices have really changed when I wasn't looking. also low ehp, pretty easy to suicide gank.
Jek Tar'qul Gallente Koa Mai Hoku	Posted - 2011.04.10 11:13:00 - [6] I like the Navy Domi, with dual imp navy reps the tank is stable at 23% and you can AFK rock most missions. dont know about active mission running seeing that i have to walk away from the computer constantly with a small child.
Goose99	Posted - 2011.04.10 14:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Fozzy Dorsai There is no "the" answer to this question. However most posters will be sure that their answer is the correct one. It depends so much on what style of play you like. Do you like working with drones (as in your Domi) or missiles (as in the Raven series)? Prefer more gank (Navy Raven) or more tank (Rattlesnake)? I'm not the type of person who tends to pay attention to things, but I do like watching stuffblow up so I go a middle ground (Scorp Navy) though at work I'll use the Rattler because if I have to leave the computer, nothing is going to get past that tank. Listen to what the other replies will say, but make sure you take into account your playing style. "The" answer = Mach.
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.10 16:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Goose99 Originally by: Fozzy Dorsai There is no "the" answer to this question. However most posters will be sure that their answer is the correct one. It depends so much on what style of play you like. Do you like working with drones (as in your Domi) or missiles (as in the Raven series)? Prefer more gank (Navy Raven) or more tank (Rattlesnake)? I'm not the type of person who tends to pay attention to things, but I do like watching stuffblow up so I go a middle ground (Scorp Navy) though at work I'll use the Rattler because if I have to leave the computer, nothing is going to get past that tank. Listen to what the other replies will say, but make sure you take into account your playing style. "The" answer = Mach. Second it this. Anyone who claims other ships then this one is simply an fool and totaly has no idea about what this ship can do compared to any other ships in mission. ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
BlackSparrowHawk	Posted - 2011.04.10 22:42:00 - [9] Personally, i fly both the Nightmare and Machariel. Since i live in Amarr, the Nightmare is THE best ship for blood and Sansha. I can complete Blockade in like 8 minutes. Nightmare more or less insta-pops blood and Sansha BS's. Great ship for em/therm related blitzing. To contrast that i also use the Mach for missions like Angels Extravaganza - All rooms including bonus takes about 15 mins. Both these ships in combination are ways to literally Print your own money. IMO Mach and Nightmare excell all ships for mission blitzing.
Spectre Wraith Darwin Inc.	Posted - 2011.04.11 01:39:00 - [10] Originally by: BlackSparrowHawk Personally, i fly both the Nightmare and Machariel. Since i live in Amarr, the Nightmare is THE best ship for blood and Sansha. I can complete Blockade in like 8 minutes. Nightmare more or less insta-pops blood and Sansha BS's. Great ship for em/therm related blitzing. To contrast that i also use the Mach for missions like Angels Extravaganza - All rooms including bonus takes about 15 mins. Both these ships in combination are ways to literally Print your own money. IMO Mach and Nightmare excell all ships for mission blitzing. This.

Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.11 17:50:00 - [11] Originally by: BlackSparrowHawk Personally, i fly both the Nightmare and Machariel. Since i live in Amarr, the Nightmare is THE best ship for blood and Sansha. I can complete Blockade in like 8 minutes. Nightmare more or less insta-pops blood and Sansha BS's. Great ship for em/therm related blitzing. To contrast that i also use the Mach for missions like Angels Extravaganza - All rooms including bonus takes about 15 mins. Both these ships in combination are ways to literally Print your own money. IMO Mach and Nightmare excell all ships for mission blitzing. While i clearly see your point it is not exactly what op did ask. He did ask about 1 ship and not 2 for difrent type of missions. The onother things is and that is my personal opnion is why you have to have 2 ships while one can do the job for all of the missions? Ofc NM will be sligtly better vs sansha/raiders but the trade off is you have to spend 2 times so much isk for both ships, atleast ofc isk isnt an isue and you can afford that then this is defenetly an option, though for me it will be more like unneed luxery. Just my 2cent ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.11 19:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Droopy Dog Why a BS? Why not a Tengu?? Cheaper and with a T2 fit can do any lvL4. You mention this in several threads but fail to mention that if you do fit a tengu with t2 instead of complex that it will take as long to complete missions as a drake. A 600 million isk ship with drake stats is **ing ****ed. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.12 10:45:00 - [13] Originally by: Cipher Jones You mention this in several threads but fail to mention that if you do fit a tengu with t2 instead of complex that it will take as long to complete missions as a drake. A 600 million isk ship with drake stats is **ing ****ed. [Tengu, T2 HML Tengu pure t2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II 10MN Afterburner II Small Shield Booster II Small Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst 631 DPS w/ Scourge Fury. Applied DPS is better than a Drake thanks to rigors. Tanks pretty much everything only running one booster, occasionally pulse the second to refill after being webbed or painted.
Crabs Collector	Posted - 2011.04.12 11:02:00 - [14] Edited by: Crabs Collector on 12/04/2011 11:02:29 and 631 dps is pretty crap dps, thanks for proving our point that tengu isnt anywhere near the performance of a NM or mach :)
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.12 11:09:00 - [15] Edited by: Target Painter on 12/04/2011 11:10:48 Originally by: Crabs Collector and 631 dps is pretty crap dps, thanks for proving our point that tengu isnt anywhere near the performance of a NM or mach :) I never said the Tengu put out as much DPS as a Nightmare or Mach. Just that T2 fitting a Tengu gets you far better performance than a Drake in every measure and Cipher is more or less a mouth-breathing r3tard. (But we all knew that anyway)
Marcus McTavish	Posted - 2011.04.16 02:49:00 - [16] Mach, Nightmare, and Golem/CNR are the kings tengu is for chilling through missions Golem and Mach are my favs tho
Maverick2011 Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.04.16 03:19:00 - [17] Originally by: vicror never seen this question before lol that made me laugh
Harkster	Posted - 2011.04.16 03:36:00 - [18] The mach is prolly the best choice. I personally prefer the Rattlesnake because of how I like to play. I just like everything the Rattlesnake has to offer. This and I don't like using turrets (Looking at the Nightmare and mach). CNR's are good and can tank about anything while dealing good dps but not the fastest killing thing out there. Pick what you want to fly and have fun. No Tengus on my list sad to say. I have seen many killed by 2 suicide minmatar bs's and don't want to be in that boat.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2011.04.16 04:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Target Painter Originally by: Cipher Jones You mention this in several threads but fail to mention that if you do fit a tengu with t2 instead of complex that it will take as long to complete missions as a drake. A 600 million isk ship with drake stats is **ing **ed. [Tengu, T2 HML Tengu pure t2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II 10MN Afterburner II Small Shield Booster II Small Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst 631 DPS w/ Scourge Fury. Applied DPS is better than a Drake thanks to rigors. Tanks pretty much everything only running one booster, occasionally pulse the second to refill after being webbed or painted. change the rigs around to Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I gives a nice dps bump, and also add in implants, up to 737 dps, and because I'm in an eft *** mood, lets take out reload time 790 dps! and no it isn't amazing dps but it is the other benefits that I listed earlier that make it nice.


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