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Tippia
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:23:00 -
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 Originally by: sableye
feature wise the old one, looks wise the new one, usability wise the old one.
^^ Pretty much that.
The only thing the new forum have over this, so far, is bling. That counts for roughly nothing ù less so because you have to turn said bling off to make the actual forum functional. 
I'm sure it could be expanded into having equal ù or even better ù functionality, but it has a long way to go before we get there.
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jada Maroo
It had a working Search function that allowed us to find threads about felching.
Mehà I have a custom google-search shortcut made for these forums anyway, so finding stuff is easy.
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Spend your time doom saying and eventually one of them might turn out true. So, flame CCP for f-ing up but don't delude yourself in your predictive abilities.
And I'm more broken than most, so just once for me. 
So more of a 24h-clock kind of guy, eh? 
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Posted - 2011.04.10 04:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 10/04/2011 04:42:32
Originally by: Kyra Felann
Being a rational, thinking person
àyou would have to put on some pretty huge blinders in order to see how deeply flawed everything about the new forums are. Since you wouldn't be a reactionary whiner (singing the song of "waah! must have new forums now!!1"), you also wouldn't have any problems with them delaying the roll-out of the forums until they were good and ready.
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On the contrary, the only thing the old forums have over the new ones is that people are used to them.
àand speed, and functionality, and security, and adherence to proper design standards, and accessibility, and robustness, and so on. So yeah, that only leaves the bling of googleapi and jquery-ui (which any rational thinking person turns off since they causes more problems than it solves). Oh, and a search function, I suppose, which still isn't as good as a custom google query.
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The new ones look and work differently
More accurately: the new ones look bad (due to not following the rules of good design) and don't work (due to an over-reliance on fancy effects to do things that could be done much more simply, more quickly, more efficiently, and more robustly through other means).
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Just because you've learned to live with 2001 style forums for the last 7 years doesn't make them better.
Just because the new forums were rolled out in 2011 doesn't make them better than a more functional version that was made in the style of 2001. Every day, new products are released that are much worse than the things they are meant to replace.
"New" only means that: "new". It is unfortunately not a synonym for "better".
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Posted - 2011.04.10 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Axon Atom
please name one thing the old forums have that was better Functionality wise.
How about five?- Proper link behaviour and accessibility.
- A wider range of markup.
- More settings.
- Direct access to EVE content.
- Contextual coherence.
The problem with the new forums is that they were trying to look "modern" by applying scripted effects to everything. The problem is that scripted effects on everything creates exactly one thing: a UI nightmare, and unless it is done very carefully (i.e. not in this case) it will actually break more things than it fixes.
àin fact: 6.ááGraceful degradation and fallback depending on the user's capabilities.
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Posted - 2011.04.10 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kinta Huron
I'm a troll because I happen to like the direction that CCP is going with this game?
Since that direction is "to hell, by the road of zero QA", yes. Yes you are.
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Posted - 2011.04.11 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dante Marcellus
You want to know the real reason the forum, whiny minority is saying "old"?
Progress. The greatest enemy of style over substance.
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Posted - 2011.04.11 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dhaul
Did some of you somehow forget how absolutely terrible this forum software from 1995 or something is?
No. We were just given a horrible reminder of how, even though these ones might be terrible, it is actually possible for worse things to existà
Terrible > terribly terrible.
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