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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 15:16:00 -
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Got the angel domination fleet staging system escalation from a forsaken hub. 14 jumps away in our own space. No problem, went and completed it and it escalated to stage 2 an additional 4 jumps away, Excellent! payday incoming in stage 3, I thought! stage 3 spawn 40 jumps from current location in delve?! What the hell is the point in that? 40 jumps in 0.0 is almost 100% guaranteed hostile territory. CCP fix, plx. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2011.04.10 15:25:00 -
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I can't remember the last time I got an escalation chain that didn't eventually send me out of my home region and into hostile space. If you don't like the risk vs reward then abandon it or go back to high sec.
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:05:00 -
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Null-sec escalations almost always do this. It's part of the risk. You can't carebear in 0.0 if you want the maximum rewards?
Shocking.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:08:00 -
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Spoken like two people who have no clue what they're talking about. Have you ever even been to nullsec? morons... Risk vs. reward? What should the reward be for doing the impossible, and no I'm not just saying "impossible" and really meaning "hard". Completing this chain is physically impossible. So try again please. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Forum Troll Trolling
Forum Trolling Corp
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:17:00 -
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Zaerlorth does have a point, doing nullsec esclations is only possible with a cloaky interdictor proof unprobable tengu. and even then there is still some risk if you run into an instalock gate camp and you get lag... you are guaranteed to die... there are people that specalize in instalock gate camps and killing such T3s oh.. and the guy still has to run the esclation in this horribly gimped fit because he cant refit at a station
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Spoken like two people who have no clue what they're talking about. Have you ever even been to nullsec? morons... Risk vs. reward? What should the reward be for doing the impossible, and no I'm not just saying "impossible" and really meaning "hard". Completing this chain is physically impossible. So try again please.
Yeah as a matter of fact I live in null-sec. I have had to do escalations in bordering regions before, I either fit up my T3 with an interdictor nullifier and went on my merry way or I went in a command ship. If I have to bring friends, it's the same deal. It's not impossible to beat other players, you just need to learn how to play.
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KiFuso
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:23:00 -
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In my opinion escalation range is about light years not jumps. I think it is like max 7/8 ly from system where you are, so.. it can be 2 jumps, but it can be as well 30-40 jumps.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Pricechecker Shiyurida
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Spoken like two people who have no clue what they're talking about. Have you ever even been to nullsec? morons... Risk vs. reward? What should the reward be for doing the impossible, and no I'm not just saying "impossible" and really meaning "hard". Completing this chain is physically impossible. So try again please.
Yeah as a matter of fact I live in null-sec. I have had to do escalations in bordering regions before, I either fit up my T3 with an interdictor nullifier and went on my merry way or I went in a command ship. If I have to bring friends, it's the same deal. It's not impossible to beat other players, you just need to learn how to play.
Congratulations on listing a whole host of ships which does not stand a snowballs chance in hell of completing the escalation I have. And yeah bringing a group of 3-4 to do an escalation in extremely hostile space is a marvelous idea! I'm sure it won't get the wrong kind of attention. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Pricechecker Shiyurida
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Spoken like two people who have no clue what they're talking about. Have you ever even been to nullsec? morons... Risk vs. reward? What should the reward be for doing the impossible, and no I'm not just saying "impossible" and really meaning "hard". Completing this chain is physically impossible. So try again please.
Yeah as a matter of fact I live in null-sec. I have had to do escalations in bordering regions before, I either fit up my T3 with an interdictor nullifier and went on my merry way or I went in a command ship. If I have to bring friends, it's the same deal. It's not impossible to beat other players, you just need to learn how to play.
Congratulations on listing a whole host of ships which does not stand a snowballs chance in hell of completing the escalation I have. And yeah bringing a group of 3-4 to do an escalation in extremely hostile space is a marvelous idea! I'm sure it won't get the wrong kind of attention.
You have a ridiculous amount of options available to you. Compromised intel channels, titan bridged orcas in dead systems, unprobable nullified T3s to name a few. It is completely your fault if you are unable to complete it.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pricechecker Shiyurida
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Pricechecker Shiyurida
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Spoken like two people who have no clue what they're talking about. Have you ever even been to nullsec? morons... Risk vs. reward? What should the reward be for doing the impossible, and no I'm not just saying "impossible" and really meaning "hard". Completing this chain is physically impossible. So try again please.
Yeah as a matter of fact I live in null-sec. I have had to do escalations in bordering regions before, I either fit up my T3 with an interdictor nullifier and went on my merry way or I went in a command ship. If I have to bring friends, it's the same deal. It's not impossible to beat other players, you just need to learn how to play.
Congratulations on listing a whole host of ships which does not stand a snowballs chance in hell of completing the escalation I have. And yeah bringing a group of 3-4 to do an escalation in extremely hostile space is a marvelous idea! I'm sure it won't get the wrong kind of attention.
You have a ridiculous amount of options available to you. Compromised intel channels, titan bridged orcas in dead systems, unprobable nullified T3s to name a few. It is completely your fault if you are unable to complete it.
You just will not listen will you? A T3 can not complete this fricking plex. They do not have the tank nor the dps to do it. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor <lotsa quotes snipped>
Yeah as a matter of fact I live in null-sec. I have had to do escalations in bordering regions before, I either fit up my T3 with an interdictor nullifier and went on my merry way or I went in a command ship. If I have to bring friends, it's the same deal. It's not impossible to beat other players, you just need to learn how to play.
Congratulations on listing a whole host of ships which does not stand a snowballs chance in hell of completing the escalation I have. And yeah bringing a group of 3-4 to do an escalation in extremely hostile space is a marvelous idea! I'm sure it won't get the wrong kind of attention.
You have a ridiculous amount of options available to you. Compromised intel channels, titan bridged orcas in dead systems, unprobable nullified T3s to name a few. It is completely your fault if you are unable to complete it.
You just will not listen will you? A T3 can not complete this fricking plex. They do not have the tank nor the dps to do it.
Notice how I said I bring friends?
You have friends, don't you?
There is no reason you can't complete it. Bring logistics. Bring more T3s, bring command ships. Cyno in an orca and refit in hostile space. Hell, bridge right into the target system. If you can't do a plex, it's not because the locals are too nasty or the plex is too hard, it's because you're not properly prepared.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Pricechecker Shiyurida
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor <lotsa quotes snipped>
Yeah as a matter of fact I live in null-sec. I have had to do escalations in bordering regions before, I either fit up my T3 with an interdictor nullifier and went on my merry way or I went in a command ship. If I have to bring friends, it's the same deal. It's not impossible to beat other players, you just need to learn how to play.
Congratulations on listing a whole host of ships which does not stand a snowballs chance in hell of completing the escalation I have. And yeah bringing a group of 3-4 to do an escalation in extremely hostile space is a marvelous idea! I'm sure it won't get the wrong kind of attention.
You have a ridiculous amount of options available to you. Compromised intel channels, titan bridged orcas in dead systems, unprobable nullified T3s to name a few. It is completely your fault if you are unable to complete it.
You just will not listen will you? A T3 can not complete this fricking plex. They do not have the tank nor the dps to do it.
Notice how I said I bring friends?
You have friends, don't you?
There is no reason you can't complete it. Bring logistics. Bring more T3s, bring command ships. Cyno in an orca and refit in hostile space. Hell, bridge right into the target system. If you can't do a plex, it's not because the locals are too nasty or the plex is too hard, it's because you're not properly prepared.
Which will get instablobbed. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Treia Laguna
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor <more quotes> Which will get instablobbed.
I know this is gonna come as a shock to you: But it's possible to avoid the blob.
Fit for unprobability, cyno/bridge/refit/assemble in nearby dead system (or even in system itself). Warp to starting gate, get to work.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:56:00 -
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I'm not saying that a chain of escalations shouldn't wander, and I'm perfectly capable of bringing friends. but halfway across the universe through this kind 0.0 is an impossibility unless you bring a hundred man fleet. Which is clearly ridiculous for one plex. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Treia Laguna
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor <more quotes> Which will get instablobbed.
I know this is gonna come as a shock to you: But it's possible to avoid the blob.
Fit for unprobability, cyno/bridge/refit/assemble in nearby dead system (or even in system itself). Warp to starting gate, get to work.
OMG. Unprobable will not work! How many times is it necessary to point this out? It does not have the necessary tank/gank to do it! GOD DAMNIT LISTEN. Besides as soon as you warp to the plex it spawns and can be probed down very easily even if your ship can't! How stupid and ignorant are you? However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Treia Laguna
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor <more quotes> Which will get instablobbed.
I know this is gonna come as a shock to you: But it's possible to avoid the blob.
Fit for unprobability, cyno/bridge/refit/assemble in nearby dead system (or even in system itself). Warp to starting gate, get to work.
OMG. Unprobable will not work! How many times is it necessary to point this out? It does not have the necessary tank/gank to do it! GOD DAMNIT LISTEN. Besides as soon as you warp to the plex it spawns and can be probed down very easily even if your ship can't! How stupid and ignorant are you?
Escalations cannot be scanned down, only the ships inside. That shows what you know. Here's an unprobable basilisk, which will compensate for tank, and gank is made up for in numbers.
[Basilisk, Can't brobe this lol] Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II ECCM - Gravimetric II ECCM - Gravimetric II ECCM - Gravimetric II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:07:00 -
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Here's the wiki by the way~
Quote: Note that escalating path complexes can not be found by scanning, that however doesn't mean, that your ship can't be probed out, once you are in it.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Escalating_encounters
Go back to farming your sanctu- OH WAIT.
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SixToOne
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Treia Laguna
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor <more quotes> Which will get instablobbed.
I know this is gonna come as a shock to you: But it's possible to avoid the blob.
Fit for unprobability, cyno/bridge/refit/assemble in nearby dead system (or even in system itself). Warp to starting gate, get to work.
OMG. Unprobable will not work! How many times is it necessary to point this out? It does not have the necessary tank/gank to do it! GOD DAMNIT LISTEN. Besides as soon as you warp to the plex it spawns and can be probed down very easily even if your ship can't! How stupid and ignorant are you?
No YOU listen nub sammich....What the guy above me said is how it works...L2plex...Cry moar noob...Buy my crackers,They go great with WHINE!If you cant handle the escalation get off explorations sack and go back to belt ratting.
Find a way around it or stop doing it...You get no sympathy here.
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Herrring
Amarr National Quality Breaker
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:19:00 -
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Its usually not worth going 40 jumps into hotile space for escalations(at least imo).
But its not because its not possible, or in any way hard.
I just don't like jumping 40 times for a "possible" 1bil.
Anyway if you think you can't do it, then don't do it lol.
How do you think people plex in low sec? where its practically all hostile space?
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Pricechecker Shiyurida
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Treia Laguna
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor <more quotes> Which will get instablobbed.
I know this is gonna come as a shock to you: But it's possible to avoid the blob.
Fit for unprobability, cyno/bridge/refit/assemble in nearby dead system (or even in system itself). Warp to starting gate, get to work.
OMG. Unprobable will not work! How many times is it necessary to point this out? It does not have the necessary tank/gank to do it! GOD DAMNIT LISTEN. Besides as soon as you warp to the plex it spawns and can be probed down very easily even if your ship can't! How stupid and ignorant are you?
Escalations cannot be scanned down, only the ships inside. That shows what you know. Here's an unprobable basilisk, which will compensate for tank, and gank is made up for in numbers.
[Basilisk, Can't brobe this lol] Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II ECCM - Gravimetric II ECCM - Gravimetric II ECCM - Gravimetric II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
You have an unprobably fit for the dread or carrier dps that is needed to bring down the stronghold on the end? However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Batelle
do you
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:33:00 -
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I feel for the OP. He's gotten some terrible or troll responses. If OP means 40 jumps from the original plex, well, thats not unheard of. I have to agree with some of the posters though. Bring friends, and preferably a carrier.
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
You have an unprobably fit for the dread or carrier dps that is needed to bring down the stronghold on the end?
>Suggesting he's going to bring a carrier or dread into a plex
Man you better be trolling.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pricechecker Shiyurida
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
You have an unprobably fit for the dread or carrier dps that is needed to bring down the stronghold on the end?
>Suggesting he's going to bring a carrier or dread into a plex
Man you better be trolling.
It is painfully obvious that you have never run the angel domination fleet staging point However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Pricechecker Shiyurida on 10/04/2011 17:39:50
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Pricechecker Shiyurida
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
You have an unprobably fit for the dread or carrier dps that is needed to bring down the stronghold on the end?
>Suggesting he's going to bring a carrier or dread into a plex
Man you better be trolling.
It is painfully obvious that you have never run the angel domination fleet staging point
That's possibly the only plex that isn't, you know, a complex? Also dread DPS is not unreachable. Bring more friends, as I said.
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:42:00 -
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I did half your work and looked up the structure at the end.
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=28998
Peak shield recharge is 1440, resistances are laughable. You can easily break that.
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Mibad
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Posted - 2011.04.10 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Mibad on 10/04/2011 18:09:28 I'll just chime here, In my opinion the risk vs the reward for escalations is not worth it. Some maybe you can do, depends what you are given. Sometimes you get them in a 5 part series. Each one you complete has a CHANCE to send you to the next part. Each one of these gets further and further away. Soon your in Scalding Pass or some other region 50+ jumps away from home.
Why would I want to create a logistical nightmare for a chance at a chance to get loot while having to avoid getting past enemy lines? They are doable, I just don't think it's worth the time invested (most of the time).
It's much easier just to probe a 6-10/10 plex in your own region. Much less time consuming.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.04.10 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mibad Edited by: Mibad on 10/04/2011 18:09:28 I'll just chime here, In my opinion the risk vs the reward for escalations is not worth it. Some maybe you can do, depends what you are given. Sometimes you get them in a 5 part series. Each one you complete has a CHANCE to send you to the next part. Each one of these gets further and further away. Soon your in Scalding Pass or some other region 50+ jumps away from home.
Why would I want to create a logistical nightmare for a chance at a chance to get loot while having to avoid getting past enemy lines? They are doable, I just don't think it's worth the time invested (most of the time).
It's much easier just to probe a 6-10/10 plex in your own region. Much less time consuming.
Exactly! So why does it exist in it's current form? However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.04.10 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Exactly! So why does it exist in it's current form?
There are people who actually seem to enjoy the challenge/risk/logistic effort of doing a 40 jump escalation and do not think the reward is bad, like Shiyurida.
Then there are people like Mibad who don't think 10/10s are woth the time and effort and do 6/10s instead.
And then there is you wanting the 10/10 reward with the 6/10 risk and effort.
As for why they exist: obviously to make you whine on the forums about them.
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Pricechecker Shiyurida
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Posted - 2011.04.10 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nika Dekaia
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Exactly! So why does it exist in it's current form?
There are people who actually seem to enjoy the challenge/risk/logistic effort of doing a 40 jump escalation and do not think the reward is bad, like Shiyurida.
Yes actually I do enjoy a challenge. Doing it is sweet, getting away with it is sweeter. For some people the risk/reward isn't good enough for them, but I like doing things more than orbiting a can and pressing F1 occasionally.
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Shu'Kam
Caldari Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.04.10 19:50:00 -
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yeah thats just total bull**** getting it 40 jumps away through 2 hostile regions.
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