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Shiroi Okami
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.11 06:16:00 -
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There has been a lot of whining and crying on these forums lately about CCP's new banning rule for AT 9.
As the official spokesperson for the HYDRA RELOADED AT 9 Team I have come to tell you all to harden the **** up. We of HYDRA approve of this new rule, as we believe that it will open to door to more on the fly tactics based battles, closer to what actually happens on TQ, instead of having a rock paper scissors style tournament where one setup will almost always beat another setup based on the presence of one or two key ships. It will also make the tournament more of a display of skill than previously, as the FC's involved will need to be able to think on their feet and be able to adjust to having a random ship of their setup knocked out of the match. Overall it should make for far more interesting battles and less max tank boring slugfests. I know I at least am in support of a more fun Alliance Tournament, are you?
And to all you vets out there; instead of raging and whining at a new set of rules you should be adapting and preparing methods to play with them. Games change, that is the way life works, if you thought you were just going to be able to regurgitate tactics from last year and expect to do well you were mistaken. Deal with it.
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.04.11 08:13:00 -
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Edited by: Terianna Eri on 11/04/2011 08:13:57 You have given very little reasoning to support your point and I have no reason to agree with you whatsoever. I also would like to see more interesting battles, and setups, and am absolutely not convinced that this mechanic will encourage that at all.
Your opinion that "any change is good change, deal with it" is shortsighted. Not every change is good and there are likely a number of better changes that could have been made to encourage different kinds of setups. I think people underestimate the power of changing the point cost of ship values.
The implication that other players are not thinking of ways to adapt to a new rule is similarly foolish. One can adapt for a change that seems likely to occur while arguing against it. The two are in no way mutually exclusive, although obviously since the arguments take place on the public forums whereas the adapting takes place in private channels, it may look like one occurs at the expense of another.
In summary I find your points poorly supported. I give you a 3/10 for your post 
P.S. Kudos for thinking this warranted its own thread, because you're such a special snowflake   
P.P.S. I think you owe me some frigate fights on TQ  ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Shiroi Okami
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.11 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri Edited by: Terianna Eri on 11/04/2011 08:13:57 You have given very little reasoning to support your point and I have no reason to agree with you whatsoever. I also would like to see more interesting battles, and setups, and am absolutely not convinced that this mechanic will encourage that at all.
Your opinion that "any change is good change, deal with it" is shortsighted. Not every change is good and there are likely a number of better changes that could have been made to encourage different kinds of setups. I think people underestimate the power of changing the point cost of ship values.
The implication that other players are not thinking of ways to adapt to a new rule is similarly foolish. One can adapt for a change that seems likely to occur while arguing against it. The two are in no way mutually exclusive, although obviously since the arguments take place on the public forums whereas the adapting takes place in private channels, it may look like one occurs at the expense of another.
In summary I find your points poorly supported. I give you a 3/10 for your post 
P.S. Kudos for thinking this warranted its own thread, because you're such a special snowflake   
P.P.S. I think you owe me some frigate fights on TQ 
I did not say any change was good. I said things change, and there is little anyone can do about it, so instead of whining you should focus your efforts on dealing with it. And as far as different ways to achieve the same result, this is true, but if they upped the points cost of logis to say, 21, I'd be making this exact same post in response to massive whining about that change.
This post was more focused at the large volume of crybabies who are proclaiming they will boycott the AT if this rule goes ahead. To them I say adapt, or put up and shut up. I'm aware adapting and complaining are two separate things, but your energy should not be directed so much at whining about a change which in all respects should make things more exciting and less of a circlejerk ehp slugfest.
Also, this post was commissioned by the Commander of the First Circle of the Hydra Realoaded Alliance, and Wielder of Light, Garmon the Mighty. As I am only the Sky Commander of the First Circle, I cannot disobey his orders.
Also as far as the firg fights go I never see you around anymore :(. Did you guys move somewhere? ------
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Mr Rive
Rens 911 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2011.04.11 08:57:00 -
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at least we know we dont have to worry about the HYDRA RELOADED team this year. They seem to have no idea what theyre talking about
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xo3e
The Deliberate Forces HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.11 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Rive at least we know we dont have to worry about the HYDRA RELOADED team this year. They seem to have no idea what theyre talking about
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.04.11 11:58:00 -
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I hope you play better than you argue...
We all want more varied and exciting battles. But ruining player experience and potentially throwing balance out the window doesn't guarantee this.
There are many other alternatives that could be tried out. I would love to get stuff like active tanking promoted with a removal of large RR modules from the tournament forcing people into active tank and alternative roles for logistics unless using medium rr.
But instead CCP are making a rule where you cannot afford to use lynchpins or have ships sticking out as key ships. Also potentially you can have 2 players pr match just wasting their time and effort. We all know how many people telling their other half to visit their parents in those specific weekends and how much domestic disturbances it causes... -
I'm a nice guy!! But plz hook me up with some pew pew... |

Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.11 13:23:00 -
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The Banning rule is ******ed in my opinion. ---
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fattrader II
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.11 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia The Banning rule is ******ed in my opinion.
Lucky it is Shirou that talks for Hydra and not a ***got like you, go cry somewhere else
Originally by: Mr Rive at least we know we dont have to worry about the HYDRA RELOADED team this year. They seem to have no idea what theyre talking about
mate u could have turned that into a rly good and effective burn, i would have said maybe "at least we know we dont have to worry about the HYDRA RELOADED team, it appears that their performance will match last year's performance", maybe you're saving the rly good burns till you own us again though ??? _______________________________
Garmon aka Garrmonia aka the PoWnEr
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Splinter 07
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Posted - 2011.04.11 13:53:00 -
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duuudes chill out,
To some the banning rule is crap for the main focus is that people wont be able to play when they wake up at 4am or take a day off work. Hydra couldn't care about the banning rule as they know other teams rely on specific role ships to keep their fleets together, and can pick the weak link out easily hence winning is going to be more effective for them. Also seems hydra made this thread to gloat for some reason or to make a ****storm.
Stop raging in these forums as this isn't going to stop. If you really hate it, make a formal petition with people names that oppose it or something.
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Seldarine
Minmatar Boats 'n Hoes WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.04.11 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: fattrader II
Originally by: Suitonia The Banning rule is ******ed in my opinion.
Lucky it is Shirou that talks for Hydra and not a ***got like you, go cry somewhere else
Originally by: Mr Rive at least we know we dont have to worry about the HYDRA RELOADED team this year. They seem to have no idea what theyre talking about
mate u could have turned that into a rly good and effective burn, i would have said maybe "at least we know we dont have to worry about the HYDRA RELOADED team, it appears that their performance will match last year's performance", maybe you're saving the rly good burns till you own us again though ???
The fact you even bothered to read anything Mr Rive has to say imo is a pretty good burn ______________________________
Seldarine
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.04.11 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Shiroi Okami Also, this post was commissioned by the Commander of the First Circle of the Hydra Realoaded Alliance, and Wielder of Light, Garmon the Mighty. As I am only the Sky Commander of the First Circle, I cannot disobey his orders.
Also as far as the firg fights go I never see you around anymore :(. Did you guys move somewhere?
At this time I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then cause I still think this change is, to say it politely, boneheaded .
SENX was recently on deployment to catch/curse because pure blind was getting totally boring; more specifically I haven't been playing much because of grad school and job searches taking all of my time :[ ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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EhWocksEd
Dark Flock Stella Polaris.
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Posted - 2011.04.11 16:33:00 -
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Man who sent 180b to RL female telling else about bad judgement? ))
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Red Nucleus
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.04.11 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: EhWocksEd Man who sent 180b to RL female telling else about bad judgement? ))
Shiroi is not El' Tar...
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Rn Bonnet
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.11 22:51:00 -
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Unfortunately for HYDRIA RELOADED the core of your tourney team (esp. Gobbins) left and now reside in PL. And happen to think you are wrong.
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Si'ren
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.12 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rn Bonnet Unfortunately for HYDRIA RELOADED the core of your tourney team (esp. Gobbins) left and now reside in PL. And happen to think you are wrong.
true. why do we even have a tourney team tbh..
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.12 01:39:00 -
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i thought garmon was more important to the hydra team than gobbins ;O also gobbins was posting in favor of banning rule (probably trolling but whatevs)
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Duncan Tanner
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.12 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk i thought garmon was more important to the hydra team than gobbins ;O also gobbins was posting in favor of banning rule (probably trolling but whatevs)
Garmon sold his accounts and is playing WoW. Leeloo Malaquin now controls those accounts and is leading us with the experience he gained from the last tournament.
It's true that the majority of the core Hydra members have left to join PL since AT8 but we have recruited people like Shiroi Okami who used to be in Ushra'Khan (guerrilla pvp experts).
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Shiroi Okami
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.12 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Duncan Tanner
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk i thought garmon was more important to the hydra team than gobbins ;O also gobbins was posting in favor of banning rule (probably trolling but whatevs)
Garmon sold his accounts and is playing WoW. Leeloo Malaquin now controls those accounts and is leading us with the experience he gained from the last tournament.
It's true that the majority of the core Hydra members have left to join PL since AT8 but we have recruited people like Shiroi Okami who used to be in Ushra'Khan (guerrilla pvp experts).
We stole a **** ton of isk from PL and then they steal the genos core    
If I didn't believe in karma I do now, gf PL ------
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Admiral Goberius
Amarr North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.12 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Rn Bonnet Unfortunately for HYDRIA RELOADED the core of your tourney team (esp. Gobbins) left and now reside in PL. And happen to think you are wrong.
Actually I support the banning rule as long as logis are immune from bahn.
However the posters in this thread should be notified that Shiroi OKAMI is a certfied furry:
and responsible for turning the once glorious hydra forums into a repository of gay anime.
Please refrain from getting trolled by this half man.
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Shiroi Okami
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.12 10:55:00 -
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I love you too Gob.
And I didn't start that **** fest on the forums either, blame for that solely rests with one Kimura-wapanese-pichu-masahiko ------
My latest pvp video - Freestyle |
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